Seeing how expensive new games and consoles are, I'm glad to be a patient gamer

[DaeZun]

The worst thing is that companies don't even have to pay for production costs anymore because the physical format has been dead for years on modern platforms other than nintendo lol.

I often wonder if it's a good idea to change hobbies considering the current decadent state of modern gaming.

 

[RETRO-VETRO RETRO-VETRO]

I was ready to add my two cents to the thread but you've basically covered everything. Well said.

Thanks!

 

[Lokgamer]

You can always go with your trusted supplier.

 

[Dr.Kisaragi Dr.Kisaragi]

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Aho! Matey the Pirate life is for us

 

[Sunnyside]

Pre-ordering wasn't even good back in the day when you got physical bonuses! It has and always will be glorified gambling. I'm not giving my money to anybody without knowing what I'm getting. I'd personally extend that to buying products on release as well. Wait for the hype machine to settle down. Even if your excitement is through the roof. This takes some discipline but everyone is capable of it.

 

[Zerpina]

Aho! Matey the Pirate life is for us

Mandatory pirate song!

 

[Turbo Kid]

I have to shit on pirates a little bit, because I always have to be "that guy", but our seafaring friends are pretty lazy these days. For one thing, no matter how many sites you find they all have the same files from the same source with few exceptions. It's the illusion of choice. They don't keep things updated either, so links are often dead. Occasionally, you will not find certain games or won't find them available until long after release. We always talk about preservation but you will not find a copy of Friday the 13th Killer puzzle for the Switch no matter how much seafaring you do. Also, pirate sites these days are TERRIBLE about updates. Often they won't have the latest update or they won't archive older updates for people who don't WANT the latest updates

Honestly pirate sites are getting as shitty as modern gaming itself. EVERYTHING is lazy and half assed these days

 

[Zerpina]

I have to shit on pirates a little bit, because I always have to be "that guy", but our seafaring friends are pretty lazy these days. For one thing, no matter how many sites you find they all have the same files from the same source with few exceptions. It's the illusion of choice. They don't keep things updated either, so links are often dead. Occasionally, you will not find certain games or won't find them available until long after release. We always talk about preservation but you will not find a copy of Friday the 13th Killer puzzle for the Switch no matter how much seafaring you do. Also, pirate sites these days are TERRIBLE about updates. Often they won't have the latest update or they won't archive older updates for people who don't WANT the latest updates

Honestly pirate sites are getting as shitty as modern gaming itself. EVERYTHING is lazy and half assed these days

Fair enough, do it better and show them how it's done

 

[Turbo Kid]

Fair enough, do it better and show them how it's done

No thanks. I don't want angry plumbers and three letter agents coming after me

 

[NOTthatHARD]

I have to shit on pirates a little bit, because I always have to be "that guy", but our seafaring friends are pretty lazy these days. For one thing, no matter how many sites you find they all have the same files from the same source with few exceptions. It's the illusion of choice. They don't keep things updated either, so links are often dead. Occasionally, you will not find certain games or won't find them available until long after release. We always talk about preservation but you will not find a copy of Friday the 13th Killer puzzle for the Switch no matter how much seafaring you do. Also, pirate sites these days are TERRIBLE about updates. Often they won't have the latest update or they won't archive older updates for people who don't WANT the latest updates

Honestly pirate sites are getting as shitty as modern gaming itself. EVERYTHING is lazy and half assed these days

Out of curiosity, but what pirates sites are you using?, because the ones that I use are always updating games and the download links are almost always working properly.

 

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Look! :D

 

[Netra]

Old games too but they were yours and not a LICENSE of use.
Now days you can buy a LICENSE on steam months after the LICENSE is launched at 15-30% sale, just don't get coherence by the fomo and buy a game to play for fun not because is the new thing to talk about in social media.

 

[030079AR]

I live in poor state, but if i interested in one game, and i dont have money, i will save. Sometimes i even ask my wife if i had to.
I am also game developer, i know why game is expensive, the development cost and efforts, are getting expensive as well.

Suggestion: saving for the game you really wanted, avoid fomo, you dont need to play all games.

 

[Jayonnaise6105 Jayonnaise6105]

Suggestion: saving for the game you really wanted, avoid fomo, you dont need to play all games.

Plus, if you wait long enough, the game might be cheaper by the time you have saved up some money

 

[Turbo Kid]

I've bad mouthed Game Stop quite a bit for being such a shitty, shady company, but man you could get great deals from them back in the old days if you weren't too obsessed with condition of your games. Yeah, you'd get a case with some sticker residue and a game with maybe some light scratches on it but you had a game to play, a manual to read, and a happy wallet. Too bad they had a tendency to sell used games to people as "new" games as well LOL.

EDIT: Meant to post this in a different thread, it's sort of relevant to this one though I guess LOL

 

[otogirisou]

They're gonna casually play it for about 8 hours, fall off of it, tell everyone they know it's their game of the year, and never touch it again.

okay, you are just projecting (not sure if that's the right word but you now what i'm saying).

 

[bjork]

It's a really simple concept that becomes easier to live by once you do it a few times: day one never*.

*unless the price is fair aka not $70

Unless it's something you absolutely HAVE TO PLAY RIGHT NOW, which is no game ever. Just wait. If it goes on sale, hey great. If it doesn't, still don't buy it and then you'll be drawn away by something else cool that comes out. Nobody is doing it here, but I always hate when people will be like, "man, October has like 46 games coming out, it's not fair to my wallet." Like they're required to buy everything knowing there's no way they can play all of them or even a couple. So dumb.

Especially nowadays when things have their release and then need patches that may never even come, let other players be the canaries in the coal mine. Then you swoop in when it's a more stable experience and it's on a sale for 80% off or whatever.

 

[MrChester]

I live in poor state, but if i interested in one game, and i dont have money, i will save. Sometimes i even ask my wife if i had to.
I am also game developer, i know why game is expensive, the development cost and efforts, are getting expensive as well.

Suggestion: saving for the game you really wanted, avoid fomo, you dont need to play all games.

I am not taking issue with this due to my own personal lack of finance, I am taking issue with irresponsible price gouging and the rampant commodification of the arts. As a developer yourself, your immediate response to put sole responsibility on the buyer (framing them as a consumer rather than the audience), is deeply disturbing. Every increase in cost CAN be justified but that doesn't always mean it should.

okay, you are just projecting (not sure if that's the right word but you now what i'm saying).

The term you're looking for is "asserting based on previous observations". I like to get engrossed in the media I partake in so, quite frankly, I don't play junky games like that myself. I'm expressing that I can't play junky games like that even passively because the price is so overinflated that it borders on parody. Even if I did just want to engage with something simply because it's culturally relevant (which there shouldn't be any problem with), the price tag is an absolute never in my opinion. I mention people "like that" because there's a cyclical nature to this decline being steadily enabled by those people that can't engage with videogames at a deeper level and it pisses me off. Realistically they aren't the problem, they are victims of predatory sales tactics, but that doesn't mean I'm going to talk about that sorta behaviour positively

 

[030079AR]

Plus, if you wait long enough, the game might be cheaper by the time you have saved up some money

Exactly, that's what i'm used to, i mostly buy at least one month. If i really want to buy first day, it has to be games i really want. And i will save few months before released. Just like i did since kid

 

[cloudsets]

In some places, you can borrow video games from your local library.

If this is not an option where you live, perhaps you should try to start a local library, or if you already have one, talk to the librarian about starting to offer games?

 

[030079AR]

I am not taking issue with this due to my own personal lack of finance, I am taking issue with irresponsible price gouging and the rampant commodification of the arts. As a developer yourself, your immediate response to put sole responsibility on the buyer (framing them as a consumer rather than the audience), is deeply disturbing. Every increase in cost CAN be justified but that doesn't always mean it should.

The term you're looking for is "asserting based on previous observations". I like to get engrossed in the media I partake in so, quite frankly, I don't play junky games like that myself. I'm expressing that I can't play junky games like that even passively because the price is so overinflated that it borders on parody. Even if I did just want to engage with something simply because it's culturally relevant (which there shouldn't be any problem with), the price tag is an absolute never in my opinion. I mention people "like that" because there's a cyclical nature to this decline being steadily enabled by those people that can't engage with videogames at a deeper level and it pisses me off. Realistically they aren't the problem, they are victims of predatory sales tactics, but that doesn't mean I'm going to talk about that sorta behaviour positively

No, we dont put responsibility to buyer.

First : i'm indie, i know money is hard to get today.

Second : it's realistic, you dont need to buy first day. There will be discount, even for nintendo games.

My tips is : buy if you have money, wait or maybe save if you don't

It's very realistic.

I too don't like short game with high cost, so i only buy what I want. If i really want it, i will save.

You know in my place, one new AAA game cost almost one third of new switch. I'm pretty selective to new games.

Luckily, i have fonds with retro, while waiting i can play new games, i'm here to find thousand of great backlogs in retros.

 

[Waffles's iconWaffles]

Please don't use the R-word when posting on here -- it's a widely offensive slur.

Other than that, yeah... Prices are stupid and not at all reflective of the products that carry them ($80 for a digital game is just ridiculous). At the same time, though, games are certainly not food, water or life-saving medicine, so it makes me feel a little silly complaining about them getting luxury tags when they are (and always have been) luxuries.

I just want something to justify the price, is all... Give me maps, art books, statues or figurines; trinkets, etc. That would definitely soften the blow.

 

[Matricks]

Too much is not the problem, is it worth that much? its yes if you want play multiplayers online alao.
But as an offshore capt.solo, I only buy big ssd ships to sailing shipwrecked games.

 

[glokglakglak]

feels good to be a pirate and not give a fuck about what anyone else says
price was never a concern for me.....only pc hardware

 

[Retro Doomer]

Everything costs to much not just games sadly the only things that are cheap are the promises from the politicians.
Anyway I remember times when 60€ was expensive and 10 to 20€ was the average price.
But well joining the navy is always free to earn some money of course

the navy is a good way to get some Games with your hard earned money

So life lawfully and truthfully and sail the seven seas by joining the Navy of course