Seeing how expensive new games and consoles are, I'm glad to be a patient gamer

[MrChester]

Wow I wrote Great Wall of China of the tons of interplay that affects how a video game company operate and makes decisions for survival, how much their operation cost, what they think about their target audiance despite how wrong it may be, what they think how world is and because of how stupid they are (very simply put) but you just reduced it to one reason as if there has to be one reason lol. Then it means you are being angry over concepts you cannot comprehend and cannot learn despite explanation. I suggest you to keep only thinking about soccer instead SMH lolol.

Yeah because that "reason" is what everything you've said is fundamentally hinged on. Don't act like I'm cherry picking one specific piece of information that is only tangentially relevant to what you're saying and using it to unfairly discredit everything else - the relevance of everything you wrote is predicated purely on a fallacy.

And also, frankly hombre, most of what you wrote isn't particularly well thought out or well informed to begin with - it sounds like you have no actual background in business whatsoever, and that you're talking out your arse, so getting all snooty about people being unable to "comprehend" or "learn despite explanation" is a little ironic. Whether you wrote a massive paragraph or a single sentence does not matter when it's all irrelevant.

I am talking about my dissatisfaction with predatory business tactics and you're trying to give me a surface level explanation of the basic concept of a business - it's not only patronising but beneath the topic at hand. I assumed everyone was on the same page about how a business works because that's largely common knowledge. You just aren't as insightful as you seem to think, so why don't you cool it with the casual digs

I don't see how dismissing someone as a corporate slave for saying something as a counter-point is an effective conversation tactic.

Good, me too. I'm not calling someone a corporate slave for arguing their case - I'm calling THAT GUY specifically a corporate slave for actively trying to discourage complaints by using false information (that can very easily be fact checked, might I add) and trying to personally insult me. I think I made my argument against their counter pretty clear, and I also think I made it pretty clear that I was calling them a corporate slave because they went out of their way to attempt to silence and insult someone for speaking ill of a corporation. That guy responded to my message in bad faith so I think they can handle being called a corporate slave.

I like games too, but I think the argument of them 'being art, and therefore not a luxury' is a little silly. Yeah, people need enrichment, but there's more than just video games for that. There's numerous other options for mental stimulation that are far cheaper (some are even free), and even way more forms of art that are insanely more expensive than video games, but you very rarely see people complain about the price of buying paintings which are more inflated than video games. I think games can be art, by the way, I'm just saying trying to frame them as this exclusive form of essential mental enrichment is strange.

I'm ngl, acting like I was talking exclusively is a little weird. Should I preface every argument with a speculation of the world's global economy and how it intersects with all forms of media to lay the foundations every time I need to talk? No. This is a site about gaming so I can afford to be a little bit narrow, but even then I didn't imply it was exclusive at all, just that we shouldn't be so quick to discredit our own enagegment with media as irrelevant to our survival. YOU, yes YOU, obviously love games like I do (otherwise you wouldn't be on this site), so why are you acting like you'd be fine to just lose them from your life.

But secondly, what the fuck is that argument anyway? Paint is over priced so we shouldn't worry about the cost of other luxory items? Friend, are you pissed off about the ever increasing price of paint when you know it's the result of predatory business tactics? Find somewhere you can express that dissatisfaction and complain about it. If anyone tells you there are bigger issues out there, then tell them to fuck off. If they try to undermine what you're saying by implying you're spoilt, or by insinuating the predatory behaviour is actually necessary then tell them to fuck off. If they tell you it's your responsibility to just accept the short end of the stick then tell them to fuck off. But this ain't a place for discussing paint supplies - it's a place for discussing videogames.

Videogame prices have become eggregious and I don't believe it's an accurate reflection of the circumstances necessary to produce said games, and I'm going to complain and be vitriolic about that because I think the people making these decisions are assholes. Telling me there are other forms of media is on par with telling me that piracy exists - I understand there are ways to circumvent this issue... but I love videogames and I want the art form to develop.

These companies want me to pay more money but the good news is they don't make interesting games (barring done indie teams - but they don't charge as much) so it's easy to just keep playing old gens. Between the PS1 and PS2 alone I could never run out of games to play that are artistically interesting and mechanically enjoyable.

Of course my demographic isn't what the massive companies are targeting. Most of those CEOs don't give a shit about the gaming world lol. They run on the philosophy of maximizing profits at the expense of quality and culture. They're machines designed to generate as much capital with as little product as they can. Since I don't want what is generating the most money, I've already been pushed out and they'll do just fine without my money, which I wasn't wasting on their poo ass games anyway lol.

It's a battle of attrition. We have to show we won't pay for stupid bullshit, but that's not going to happen en masse to the point of actually causing change if you ask me. Too many suckers out there. I still feel happy and optimistic overall, as I do still see smaller teams making their dream games at reasonable prices and with good quality. So that's cool at least.

I'm gonna be real with you, I feel the exact same as you. I have no intention of buying or even playing silent hill f, and it's not something I've ever even really been arsed about. Normally I just leave the suckers to suck and I haven't even bought a new modern game since before like 2020 for those reasons. Idk why, just something about seeing that £70 price tag just made me so mad at/on-behalf-of all those suckers out there and I needed somewhere to vent (assuming most people on here felt the same way)... now I got people tryna unload financial advice onto me like I was complaining because I'm broke

 

[zacharinolongpants]

Yeah because that "reason" is what everything you've said is fundamentally hinged on. Don't act like I'm cherry picking one specific piece of information that is only tangentially relevant to what you're saying and using it to unfairly discredit everything else - the relevance of everything you wrote is predicated purely on a fallacy.

And also, frankly hombre, most of what you wrote isn't particularly well thought out or well informed to begin with - it sounds like you have no actual background in business whatsoever, and that you're talking out your arse, so getting all snooty about people being unable to "comprehend" or "learn despite explanation" is a little ironic. Whether you wrote a massive paragraph or a single sentence does not matter when it's all irrelevant.

I am talking about my dissatisfaction with predatory business tactics and you're trying to give me a surface level explanation of the basic concept of a business - it's not only patronising but beneath the topic at hand. I assumed everyone was on the same page about how a business works because that's largely common knowledge. You just aren't as insightful as you seem to think, so why don't you cool it with the casual digs


Good, me too. I'm not calling someone a corporate slave for arguing their case - I'm calling THAT GUY specifically a corporate slave for actively trying to discourage complaints by using false information (that can very easily be fact checked, might I add) and trying to personally insult me. I think I made my argument against their counter pretty clear, and I also think I made it pretty clear that I was calling them a corporate slave because they went out of their way to attempt to silence and insult someone for speaking ill of a corporation. That guy responded to my message in bad faith so I think they can handle being called a corporate slave.

I'm ngl, acting like I was talking exclusively is a little weird. Should I preface every argument with a speculation of the world's global economy and how it intersects with all forms of media to lay the foundations every time I need to talk? No. This is a site about gaming so I can afford to be a little bit narrow, but even then I didn't imply it was exclusive at all, just that we shouldn't be so quick to discredit our own enagegment with media as irrelevant to our survival. YOU, yes YOU, obviously love games like I do (otherwise you wouldn't be on this site), so why are you acting like you'd be fine to just lose them from your life.

But secondly, what the fuck is that argument anyway? Paint is over priced so we shouldn't worry about the cost of other luxory items? Friend, are you pissed off about the ever increasing price of paint when you know it's the result of predatory business tactics? Find somewhere you can express that dissatisfaction and complain about it. If anyone tells you there are bigger issues out there, then tell them to fuck off. If they try to undermine what you're saying by implying you're spoilt, or by insinuating the predatory behaviour is actually necessary then tell them to fuck off. If they tell you it's your responsibility to just accept the short end of the stick then tell them to fuck off. But this ain't a place for discussing paint supplies - it's a place for discussing videogames.

Videogame prices have become eggregious and I don't believe it's an accurate reflection of the circumstances necessary to produce said games, and I'm going to complain and be vitriolic about that because I think the people making these decisions are assholes. Telling me there are other forms of media is on par with telling me that piracy exists - I understand there are ways to circumvent this issue... but I love videogames and I want the art form to develop.


I'm gonna be real with you, I feel the exact same as you. I have no intention of buying or even playing silent hill f, and it's not something I've ever even really been arsed about. Normally I just leave the suckers to suck and I haven't even bought a new modern game since before like 2020 for those reasons. Idk why, just something about seeing that £70 price tag just made me so mad at/on-behalf-of all those suckers out there and I needed somewhere to vent (assuming most people on here felt the same way)... now I got people tryna unload financial advice onto me like I was complaining because I'm broke

There are some surprisingly defensive takes in here. Are people REALLY okay with what is really just full blown exploitation? At least to me. It's a shame to see really cool tech get fumbled because of myopic corporate greed. I know it's complicated and these monster companies have a lot of overhead but the balance feels very off lol.

 

[Octopus]

YOU, yes YOU, obviously love games like I do (otherwise you wouldn't be on this site), so why are you acting like you'd be fine to just lose them from your life.

Video games aren't being taken from your life by AAA games being expensive, there's still plenty of other games out there if you rightfully don't want to pay the absurd cost of a modern blockbuster game. If you want to play Silent Hill f, which is obviously fine, you do you, I also don't get why you were saying anyone who bought the preorder version was some 'fake gamer' or something, then wait. I get being angry about it, but I think the medium will survive around the latest AAA full priced releases.

Paint is over priced so we shouldn't worry about the cost of other luxory items? Friend, are you pissed off about the ever increasing price of paint when you know it's the result of predatory business tactics? Find somewhere you can express that dissatisfaction and complain about it. If anyone tells you there are bigger issues out there, then tell them to fuck off. If they try to undermine what you're saying by implying you're spoilt, or by insinuating the predatory behaviour is actually necessary then tell them to fuck off. If they tell you it's your responsibility to just accept the short end of the stick then tell them to fuck off. But this ain't a place for discussing paint supplies - it's a place for discussing videogames.

I wasn't comparing or complaining about the price of paint to video games, but the selling price of the finished painting product; though I think paint is also pretty expensive nowadays, like everything is. I disagree with the statement that video games aren't a luxury, and was comparing it to another form of art that people generally accept the on-average insane prices of. The rest of the quote just comes off to me like you're entirely unwilling to accept any discussion of this point if you're that ready to tell anyone to fuck off, and just want to be angry about the price of Silent Hill; fair, but that's really a discussion then, it's just a doomer circle. There are bigger economical issues than the price of video games, and that's coming from someone who also loves video games. Obviously that doesn't mean you can't talk about video games specifically, but don't try to dress video games up as this essential item is all like in your prison example.

 

[MrChester]

'fake gamer'

Not said by me, nor implied. I'm saying these people are unequipped to critique videogames and are often way too influenced by sunk cost fallacy yet their opinions have the strongest influence on collective conscience. Don't pin your elitist fake gamer crap on me.

Video games aren't being taken from your life by AAA games being expensive, there's still plenty of other games out there if you rightfully don't want to pay the absurd cost of a modern blockbuster game. If you want to play Silent Hill f, which is obviously fine, you do you, I also don't get why you were saying anyone who bought the preorder version was some 'fake gamer' or something, then wait. I get being angry about it, but I think the medium will survive around the latest AAA full priced releases.

You're making a lot of assumptions about the intent of my complaint. I do not want, nor care about Silent Hill f or most AAA games - I am not their audience. I am talking SOLELY about my dissatisfaction with predatory business tactics and their influence of the culture surrounding the medium of videogames whilst using Silent Hill f as a jumping off point for discussion.

I disagree with the statement that video games aren't a luxury

Also, not something I said. "I strongly disagree that all art should be considered luxury" is what I actually said, which has a different meaning as a standalone sentence, and within context.

The rest of the quote just comes off to me like you're entirely unwilling to accept any discussion of this point if you're that ready to tell anyone to fuck off

Obviously the subtlety went over your head. I am pretty obviously not telling anyone, nor have told anyone to fuck off, and am engaging in a lot of what people have said. But if it was someone else, and they told you to fuck off, I wouldn't blame them.

The rest of the quote just comes off to me like you're entirely unwilling to accept any discussion of this point if you're that ready to tell anyone to fuck off, and just want to be angry about the price of Silent Hill; fair, but that's really a discussion then, it's just a doomer circle.

I think I have made it pretty clear, both in my original post and in follow-up responses, that I am complaining about the people who decide these figures, not the figures themselves.

don't try to dress video games up as this essential item is all like in your prison example.

Once again, didn't actually say, nor imply this.

and lastly, let me just use this next quote as an example to make a greater point:

There are bigger economical issues than the price of video games

Let's call a spade a spade - by saying this, you are telling me to "shut up". You're minimising my issue and you're telling me what I'm saying is not worth talking about because for whatever reason you want to discourage me from talking. On top of that, in my opinion, you are actively misinterpreting and misrepresenting what I'm saying as a means to discredit me.

I don't think you actually want to engage with this topic, I think you're gleaming a lot of what I'm saying in bad faith, and I think that you're entirely concerned with "winning" this argument against me. And so for that reason, as much as I appreciate your contributions to this thread, I do not intend to correspond with you any further.

 

[diet_orange]

There's very few modern games that I play, but most of them are indie and under 30 dollars. Some of them honestly have more personality and depth than many of the triple A games out there

And too, you can always wait for them to go on sale

 

[Octopus]

Some dipshit is gonna pre order this game, digital deluxe (don't wanna miss out after all), nearly 1 ton price tag. They're gonna casually play it for about 8 hours, fall off of it, tell everyone they know it's their game of the year, and never touch it again. People like this are the reason I can't buy new games.

Resident Evil Village was an absolute mid-fest. Completely average game that got blown out of proportion by these fucking whale ass videogame tourists. Resident Evil 2/3/4 remake - same fucking deal only now with a little bit of incentive for new players to find out what made the older games so special (which they won't even fucking do - if you wanna experience the originals you could just... experience the originals directly?).

Not said by me, nor implied. I'm saying these people are unequipped to critique videogames and are often way too influenced by sunk cost fallacy yet their opinions have the strongest influence on collective conscience. Don't pin your elitist fake gamer crap on me.

Sure, you never said specifically 'fake gamers' that was me putting a different word on it, but what you said in the first post sounds pretty elitist/gatekeep-y to me all the same; you dropped 'tourist' which implies 'fake gamer' to me given the way the word is usually used on the internet.

Obviously the subtlety went over your head. I am pretty obviously not telling anyone, nor have told anyone to fuck off, and am engaging in a lot of what people have said. But if it was someone else, and they told you to fuck off, I wouldn't blame them.

You pretty much told people here to fuck off when you called them shills, or corporate slaves. You may not have said it directly, but the sentiment seemed the same.

Let's call a spade a spade - by saying this, you are telling me to "shut up". You're minimising my issue and you're telling me what I'm saying is not worth talking about because for whatever reason you want to discourage me from talking. On top of that, in my opinion, you are actively misinterpreting and misrepresenting what I'm saying as a means to discredit me.

I don't think you actually want to engage with this topic, I think you're gleaming a lot of what I'm saying in bad faith, and I think that you're entirely concerned with "winning" this argument against me. And so for that reason, as much as I appreciate your contributions to this thread, I do not intend to correspond with you any further.

I'm not trying to win an argument against you or discredit you, I'm not even arguing against your core message as I agree that games are too expensive which I said. I was just pointing out some things I saw with the discussion here and what I thought was a bit of a silly statement about luxury items. You seem particularly defensive about counter points here which is what I was ultimately trying to convey. If you don't want to correspond with me any further, sure it's not going to really bother me.

 

[DanCalibur]

 

[Bonkers225]

I grew up in a time when shitty 1-2 hour long 1-2 mb games cost $60-70. Those prices were 90's prices. With inflation, yeah, absurd. But internet wasn't really a thing also, so people couldn't voice their opinions about it.

 

[JoueurCitoyen]

I grew up in a time when shitty 1-2 hour long 1-2 mb games cost $60-70. Those prices were 90's prices. With inflation, yeah, absurd. But internet wasn't really a thing also, so people couldn't voice their opinions about it.

Perhaps Mr. Chester is too young to have known that time. You can basically play for free and legally nowadays. Games and systems (Arari 2600, Saturn, Neo-Geo AES) used to be way more expensive and there was no Zsnes and such yet.

But I don't want to debate anymore, he just wants to prove himself right, won't pay much attention to this thread anymore.

 

[MrChester]

I grew up in a time when shitty 1-2 hour long 1-2 mb games cost $60-70. Those prices were 90's prices. With inflation, yeah, absurd. But internet wasn't really a thing also, so people couldn't voice their opinions about it.

Modern pricing is the result of price gouging and not inflation. Somebody else brought up the SNES era as a point of comparison to say that prices have always been the same but if you look up the history that's not accurate at all. Videogames declined in price as they became more mainstream from 1990 to 2006 and then began to sharply increase in price disproportionately to inflation following that.

BUT, regardless of that - the pricing of the past should not be the sole reason for the pricing of the present.

Since they became publicly available, cars cost under half as much as they did at the start of the 1900s to reflect how ubiquitous cars have become in the modern day. Similarly, gaming has become much more mainstream.

Perhaps Mr. Chester is too young to have known that time. You can basically play for free and legally nowadays. Games and systems (Arari 2600, Saturn, Neo-Geo AES) used to be way more expensive and there was no Zsnes and such yet.

But I don't want to debate anymore, he just wants to prove himself right, won't pay much attention to this thread anymore.

Whether I did or did not live through the early 90s does not have any relevance to whether or not price gouging and exploitation has become an industry norm.

 

[cloudsets]

I'm not "repeating the brainless rhetoric about inflation", it's just facts, a Super Nintendo cartridge today's cost would be around €120/£120. I don't care about Silent Hill or Resident Evil cultures, I'll just wait to buy them when they're cheaper and this is perfectly fine.

Super Nintendo cartridges contain entire processors and extra integrated circuitry that would be used to run parts of the game code they contained. There is most of an extra computer inside them. Physical manufacturing costs accounted for the vast majority of the price back then.

Nowadays, a game just gets sent digitally over the Internet. That requires almost no cost per unit to fulfill a sale.

Meanwhile, the people actually making these games are paid less than ever in comparison to the cost of living, and corporate profits break records quarter after quarter.

 

[DjQuick2008]

I usually stack steam vouchers up now to afford games then theres always stuff on my balance.

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Super Nintendo cartridges contain entire processors and extra integrated circuitry that would be used to run parts of the game code they contained. There is most of an extra computer inside them. Physical manufacturing costs accounted for the vast majority of the price back then.

Nowadays, a game just gets sent digitally over the Internet. That requires almost no cost per unit to fulfill a sale.

Meanwhile, the people actually making these games are paid less than ever in comparison to the cost of living, and corporate profits break records quarter after quarter.

SFII Turbo was £45 to buy in 1993 instant buy though

 

[RanmyakuIchi's icon RanmyakuIchi RanmyakuIchi]

I bought maybe 3 games in the last 3 years, everything else I pirate. No modern triple-A company would spit on you if you were on fire, so why give them business? It's your responsibility to pirate modern games!

 

[DjQuick2008]

I bought maybe 3 games in the last 3 years, everything else I pirate. No modern triple-A company would spit on you if you were on fire, so why give them business? It's your responsibility to pirate modern games!

i only buy ps3/ps4 physical mainly these days because they go at a decent price.

 

[RanmyakuIchi's icon RanmyakuIchi RanmyakuIchi]

Honestly, the industry had been asking for piracy for some time, why deny them?

 

[Jayonnaise6105 Jayonnaise6105]

i only buy ps3/ps4 physical mainly these days because they go at a decent price.

Honestly, the industry had been asking for piracy for some time, why deny them?
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I mean, I've been buying quite a few really cheap games this year but they were all mostly from eBay. Not like those companies are seeing any of that money either

 

[Rocket2049]

I bought maybe 3 games in the last 3 years, everything else I pirate. No modern triple-A company would spit on you if you were on fire, so why give them business? It's your responsibility to pirate modern games!

i'm not gonna disagree, but there's a few reason i prefer to buy a game (not full price, i sale hunt a LOT)

1. automatic updates, pirate games don't update themselves and i've had enough annoyance of this when i can't find the updates
2. easier to redownload, it'd be easier through like, Steam, PSN, Xbox marketplace, eShop, mobile app store, etc.
3. cloud saves, losing saves is an absolute disaster.
4. general online features, multiplayer, events, seasonal stuff,

gabe newell said it best
"We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem".
meaning, most piracy is because the service sucks.

 

[RebelofDaNeonGod]

I dunno what to tell you, bud, every single modern game I've gotten has been on sale or been at a large discount on keysites. I'm not gonna defend the asking price for these games, it's ridiculous, but there are ways around it, hell, just wait a bit and you'll get these expensive games for cheap. Every RE remake goes for 20 below if you just wait for a sale. I pity those that are trapped by the Cult of the New.

 

[GuyZero32k4]

"If you can't afford it, you're not a real fan."
I've bought lots of stupid shit through the years that's not always video games on impulse.

But I refuse to buy poor sub standard products, especially when it comes to video games. "The games not complete, it'll be patched in an update. Season pass has the content that should have there to begin with!"

And charge like a shit, makes wanna do this to the developer who does this shit to their face.:

 

[Danieru-Emanyueru]

Yes that is true but everything comes into offer sooner or later. So you just have to wait.

 

[MrChester]

I dunno what to tell you, bud, every single modern game I've gotten has been on sale or been at a large discount on keysites. I'm not gonna defend the asking price for these games, it's ridiculous, but there are ways around it, hell, just wait a bit and you'll get these expensive games for cheap. Every RE remake goes for 20 below if you just wait for a sale. I pity those that are trapped by the Cult of the New.

This isn't just a response to you but everyone else that seems to think this post is about me looking for financial advice or that I'm entirely unaware of the concept of a sale. I understand that there are ways around this - we are literally on a piracy based website. To be perfectly honest, I'm never gonna buy Silent Hill f, or any of the modern Resident Evil games - they are not for me, but that doesn't mean that I can't be personally affected by the disgusting way the owners of these IPs treat their audience, and how they effectively turned said IPs into nothing more than branding. I pity those trapped by the Cult of the New too... that's why I'm so pissed off - THEY ARE THE VICTIMS (and I hate that I hate them so much)

I made this thread purely because I saw an injustice and was frustrated by my inability to meaningfully contribute to changing it. I didn't clean it up or make it coherent because I thought what I was saying was pretty basic stuff. But apparently not.

I had someone explain to me the concept of a whale when in my original post I used that term multiple times and didn't insult anyone's intelligence by explaining it. I've been called spoilt for complaining about an issue when I actually made no insinuation that I am even being directly affected by this issue. I've had numerous responses trying to rationalise this as necessary for the survival of the company and as the result of inflation (things that can literally be debunked). I've had people tell me that the burden of this is ultimately my responsibility (I just need to save or not be so attached to these games). And I've even had people, on this forum about discussing videogames and videogame culture, telling me there are bigger issues to talk about.

You say you aren't defending the prices, but frankly, by putting the burden of responsibility solely onto the consumer, YOU ARE defending it. By responding like that, you are antagonising people that feel like their interests are being exploited - you are attempting to silence the people that oppose this kind of business practice. So I gotta ask...

Why are you (and so many others) so resistant to the idea of holding the people who decide the prices of videogames as accountable for the rampant and predatory increase in videogame prices?

 

[RebelofDaNeonGod]

This isn't just a response to you but everyone else that seems to think this post is about me looking for financial advice or that I'm entirely unaware of the concept of a sale. I understand that there are ways around this - we are literally on a piracy based website. To be perfectly honest, I'm never gonna buy Silent Hill f, or any of the modern Resident Evil games - they are not for me, but that doesn't mean that I can't be personally affected by the disgusting way the owners of these IPs treat their audience, and how they effectively turned said IPs into nothing more than branding. I pity those trapped by the Cult of the New too... that's why I'm so pissed off - THEY ARE THE VICTIMS (and I hate that I hate them so much)

I made this thread purely because I saw an injustice and was frustrated by my inability to meaningfully contribute to changing it. I didn't clean it up or make it coherent because I thought what I was saying was pretty basic stuff. But apparently not.

I had someone explain to me the concept of a whale when in my original post I used that term multiple times and didn't insult anyone's intelligence by explaining it. I've been called spoilt for complaining about an issue when I actually made no insinuation that I am even being directly affected by this issue. I've had numerous responses trying to rationalise this as necessary for the survival of the company and as the result of inflation (things that can literally be debunked). I've had people tell me that the burden of this is ultimately my responsibility (I just need to save or not be so attached to these games). And I've even had people, on this forum about discussing videogames and videogame culture, telling me there are bigger issues to talk about.

You say you aren't defending the prices, but frankly, by putting the burden of responsibility solely onto the consumer, YOU ARE defending it. By responding like that, you are antagonising people that feel like their interests are being exploited - you are attempting to silence the people that oppose this kind of business practice. So I gotta ask...

Why are you (and so many others) so resistant to the idea of holding the people who decide the prices of videogames as accountable for the rampant and predatory increase in videogame prices?

I think you're getting lost for the trees here, dawg. I'm only going to address what was clearly meant as a response to my post.

Never had I placed the responsibility on the consumer nor did those intentions come from my post. All I had said is that there are ways around it and that I felt pity for those that must consume new products constantly. What you assume to be the placing of the burden is me simply stating that there are ways for you to work your way around this system that you or I, individually, can not change. Like you said "I didn't clean it up or make it coherent because I thought what I was saying was pretty basic stuff. But apparently not". It's just how capital works, something that was once niche gets popular, the profits seem large, investors and companies wish to increase profits and they WILL find a way, no matter how dogshit the ripples of the impact is. The best thing we can do within this market of shorthanding and moneygrubbing (at least within the AAA market) is to find any way we can to work around it. Hell, the consumer is slowly whittling away at this, look at the impending crash of the AAA industry while indies thrive. It feels that you are so vitriolic and passionate in your opinion, you're calling me a defender just because I'm not wholeheartedly saying I agree with you which I do, but I just didn't say those exact words. Like you mentioned, what website do you think we're fucking on? Is the only way to hold these faceless corporations "responsible" yelling at 30 people max on a thread on a rom website? Talk about this outside of just this community, create a dialogue, form a small movement, pirate, practice good praxis, something, because you are defintely not holding these people responsible by lashing out. You're doing nothing.

Also quit it with this corny "silencing" shit. I'm responding to your post on a public FORUM where the whole purpose is to have discussions with people who may or may not have differing opinions (WHICH I DON'T). You don't see my ass calling the staff and going "mods! mods! I don't agree with this, get it away!" Calm down and respond when you ain't whistling by the ears.

 

[kamille]

I only buy indie games anyway. They have replaced the bargain bin but sometimes very amazing games anyway.

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This isn't just a response to you but everyone else that seems to think this post is about me looking for financial advice or that I'm entirely unaware of the concept of a sale. I understand that there are ways around this - we are literally on a piracy based website. To be perfectly honest, I'm never gonna buy Silent Hill f, or any of the modern Resident Evil games - they are not for me, but that doesn't mean that I can't be personally affected by the disgusting way the owners of these IPs treat their audience, and how they effectively turned said IPs into nothing more than branding. I pity those trapped by the Cult of the New too... that's why I'm so pissed off - THEY ARE THE VICTIMS (and I hate that I hate them so much)

I made this thread purely because I saw an injustice and was frustrated by my inability to meaningfully contribute to changing it. I didn't clean it up or make it coherent because I thought what I was saying was pretty basic stuff. But apparently not.

I had someone explain to me the concept of a whale when in my original post I used that term multiple times and didn't insult anyone's intelligence by explaining it. I've been called spoilt for complaining about an issue when I actually made no insinuation that I am even being directly affected by this issue. I've had numerous responses trying to rationalise this as necessary for the survival of the company and as the result of inflation (things that can literally be debunked). I've had people tell me that the burden of this is ultimately my responsibility (I just need to save or not be so attached to these games). And I've even had people, on this forum about discussing videogames and videogame culture, telling me there are bigger issues to talk about.

You say you aren't defending the prices, but frankly, by putting the burden of responsibility solely onto the consumer, YOU ARE defending it. By responding like that, you are antagonising people that feel like their interests are being exploited - you are attempting to silence the people that oppose this kind of business practice. So I gotta ask...

Why are you (and so many others) so resistant to the idea of holding the people who decide the prices of videogames as accountable for the rampant and predatory increase in videogame prices?

Maybe I'll buy silent hill f at a discount someday since i like the writer that's worked on it. But otherwise! Nah... I'd skip. (And play hades 2)

 

[MrChester]

Never had I placed the responsibility on the consumer nor did those intentions come from my post.

Firstly, I disagree with this. You said "I dunno what to tell you, bud, every single modern game I've gotten has been on sale or been at a large discount on keysites" and I believe that this quite blatantly suggests that if you don't work around the initial asking price you are being irresponsible, ergo, it is your responsibility. You might agree with the sentiment that videogame prices are too high, but we are not seeing eye to eye - I am not interesting in rationalising predatory business behaviour as "avoidable" because I think it reduces the issue to "buyer discretion advised". Just for the sake of argument, I'd like to extrapolate this line of thinking to the extreme (and yeah, I'm well aware this is a pretty absurd). Obviously the interenet wasn't a thing back then but say it was around during WWII and I made a post saying "sure sucks ass that people are being rounded up into concentration camps" and you responded with something along the lines of "idk what to tell you buddy, I've always managed to duck capture". I just think it's a weirdly detached perspective to have and I think it suggests that the victims in this scenario just didn't "try hard enough". I'll admit, if you were coming in here and spreading lesser-known information on how the individual can better avoid price gouging, then that would be one thing, but just saying "duh, sales exist", though you obviously mean good by it, is kind of insulting.

But secondly, (and sorry if this is all a bit hyperspecific, I feel like you're referencing other messages on this thread but idk what you have and havent read) I put this out into a forum because I wanted to gauge the general attitude to this as well as fish for some new takes or valuable insight because I do not know what I want to do in response to this. That doesn't mean I have to respect every single surface level answer and bad take though - like I said, I had one guy who called me spoilt then argued it was inflation when it literally can be proven it isn't. Obviously I've taken a hostile approach to some of my responses, but not to anyone that didn't actively and directly insult me (and I mean literally) and even then only when I believed they were spreading misinformation. Saying that price gouging and inflation are to blame is not having a different opinion to me, it is factually incorrect (and adding a few insults in while saying that is silly). If you're like, desperate to analyse me specifically, just compare how I responded to those people with how I responded to the person that initially mentioned that games are not fundamental to our survival. That was interesting as shit, gave me a lot to think about, and frankly I think I came up with an interesting counterargument to that line of thinking that I wanted to see expanded upon further (but unfortunately the only response I got to that point was some guy basically saying "nuh-uh" and - from what I could tell - intentionally misreading what I'd put). Legitimately, I am totally up for anyone tearing apart my entire ideology and line of thinking, however, if somebody proposes a counterargument, and I say I disagree because it's hinged on a fallacy, and rather than arguing against that they just call me an idiot - surely that's fair game? How am I supposed to react to someone not making any counterargument and just implying I don't know what I'm talking about because they suggest I'm too young to have expereinced the SNES era firsthand? Cause all I did was plainly say it was irrelevant to the discussion.

I think I gave you a fair and detailed response that - even though aggressive - was not meant to insult you directly. Something which I don't think you could say about your response.

More onto the bulk of what you said though:

It's just how capital works, something that was once niche gets popular, the profits seem large, investors and companies wish to increase profits and they WILL find a way, no matter how dogshit the ripples of the impact is. The best thing we can do within this market of shorthanding and moneygrubbing (at least within the AAA market) is to find any way we can to work around it. Hell, the consumer is slowly whittling away at this, look at the impending crash of the AAA industry while indies thrive.

This is the start of what could have been an interesting point, the exact sort of thing I was looking for from this forum. Regardless of the reason you gave this answer, it would have been far more interesting to read why you think the crash of the "AAA industry" is impending, or maybe other examples of industries outside of videogames working like this? I mean, maybe this is anecdoteal, but no one in this thread has really said much about supporting indie devs and you clearly have more you could say on the topic. Maybe I'm grasping here, but had you have not been so quick to say sales, you probably could have made an interesting case about something.

But this:

Also quit it with this corny "silencing" shit. I'm responding to your post on a public FORUM where the whole purpose is to have discussions with people who may or may not have differing opinions (WHICH I DON'T). You don't see my ass calling the staff and going "mods! mods! I don't agree with this, get it away!" Calm down and respond when you ain't whistling by the ears.

Now, I'm gonna get a little heated here because what the actual fuck are you talking about? I'm in this thread responding to people and arguing my case. If I disagree with someone, I'm arguing my counter. I'm not resorting to baseless name calling (mostly) and I'm not calling for any mods like attack dogs. What you're saying is just a million miles away from what's actually been said, and I just have no idea what you think is going on here? You said something I felt was reductive to the discussion, so i argued why I think it's reductive

 

[Graves Ruinwalker]

I gave up tripple AAA gaming a long time ago since 2016 . The high prices. of those just underlines my decisions clearly .

Not only was the watering down of the gameplay from different genres and its rather formulaic designs a chore to play for me , but i got a huge backlog already that spans from older consoles i own later to emulators with games that i maybe wont never get because of their high prices used alone but the high curiosity i still have for them , not to mention i dont speak or read japanese .

Those older games need the love badly. Underrated treasures that are forgotten or misjudged which should be played again for what those actually are and not hiw they were sometimes falsely advertised .