Seeing a lot of Banned users, is that normal?

[Strategist]

I don't know. The way I approach forums is the same way I approach a bar. I get in there, chat with the locals have a drink and piss out. If I don't like the bar, I go to a different one. The mods/administration of the site have the right to bounce anyone they deem is being an asshole at any time. We are all visitors here, since we don't pay for the server space or invest enough time to set the rules. Waffles is doing us a courtesy by listening to us, but coming here and making demands seems out of line to me. If you don't like it, start your own forum.

 

[AtlasM]

I mean your cake is kinda fire hard to not get ignited by that :3

Aww, Cheela, you're making me blush

 

[RageBurner]

@Gorse's point is valid, but I have not personally seen any reason, based on staff actions, for acute concern over an excessively heavy handed response.

 

[DrunkOcelot]

This is really feeling extremely childish. "I know you hate me, why don't you just get rid of me!" followed by "Dad would understand!"

This is what, the 10th time you've claimed you're popular? It's a forum, people can speak for themselves, you haven't embodied their collective will like Full Frontal or something.

 

[Gorse]

Agree but I think Gorse also has a point in that..would the thread have been closed if a notable person wasn't in it?

I wonder about that, too.

I don't actually think any of the mods are going to address my issue or ban me – I must be a thorn in their side, because, aside from Yousef (whom I love), I'm the most popular non-mod member, and I disagree with a lot of what they have to say. Frankly, I consider it my duty to stand up for people who actually want to have some meaningful discussion that they couldn't anywhere else. Like... Jesus. I'm RGT's Jesus.

(That was a joke, obviously.)

I think Gorse has alot of good points, and he's talked ALOT of shit up to and including name dropping daddy spike and nobody fucks with the guy.

Me and Spike are TIGHT, YO!!!!!! (Not actually, I've just been here a long time and I'm pretty sure he realizes I'm not a troll or bad actor.)

This is really feeling extremely childish. "I know you hate me, why don't you just get rid of me!" followed by "Dad would understand!"

I've posted my detailed arguments again and again in this thread, and the only response you've given me is "get over it". You'll continue making catty, passive-aggressive, content-free insults, because you have no legitimate arguments against me besides "I disagree with you, and I'm a mod". That's exactly the issue I'm talking about, and you've done a great job proving me right.

It's a forum, people can speak for themselves,

They have, repeatedly – read the thread back, or see any of my trillions of interactions with my friends right here on RGT. And here's some quantifiable, hard-data numbers to go along with those claims. I say it because... it's true. I know you don't like me, but I'm not really concerned with that – I've got loads of friends, and I'm looking forward to making many more. It's pretty easy to do that when you encourage open discussion and not catty, smug, passive-aggressive snipes.

for acute concern over an excessively heavy handed response.

I want this issue rectified ASAP, because I hate the thought of me writing up a massive, detailed post in a thread, then getting it deleted or getting no-warning banned because a mod was in a tizzy. I want to be able to cite precedent.

 

[ZombieFish]

Gorse's point would be valid if any of the stuff he's worried about was actually happening here, but it isn't. And he's been throwing rocks and hiding hands quite a bit, which reminds me of the phrase "the guilty dog barks first." But it don't hurt my feelings. I like a spicy one, and I'ma trust the mods to keep doing the solid job they've been doing.

 

[Gorse]

"the guilty dog barks first."

Ruff ruff! I haven't actually been banned for any politics-related material I've posted, yet – because I really don't post much of it at all – and, quite frankly, I don't expect to be. But 1) this isn't about me exclusively and 2) it could happen, and I think it would be pretty dumb if it did, so I'd like the possibility to be snuffed out. After all... there's no good reason not to.

 

[RageBurner]

I want this issue rectified ASAP, because I hate the thought of me writing up a massive, detailed post in a thread, then getting it deleted or getting no-warning banned because a mod was in a tizzy. I want to be able to cite precedent.

I don't mean to sound snide, dear Gorse, but it looks to me like you are trying to create your own precedent here. We understand your point, we really do, but it seems like you are trying to kill ghosts with rocks, here.

 

[Strategist]

I don't mean to sound snide, dear Gorse, but it looks to me like you are trying to create your own precedent here. We understand your point, we really do, but it seems like you are trying to kill ghosts with rocks, here.

Even if he set a precedent, there are no trials, no lawyers and this is private server space. Not sure what Gorse thinks he's going to accomplish with that. Is he going to sue a mod? No matter how many annotations he puts on the rules, he's still going to get banned if he behaves like an asshole.

 

[ZombieFish]

Ruff ruff! I haven't actually been banned for any politics-related material I've posted, yet – because I really don't post much of it at all – and, quite frankly, I don't expect to be. But 1) this isn't about me exclusively and 2) it could happen, and I think it would be pretty dumb if it did, so I'd like the possibility to be snuffed out. After all... there's no good reason not to.

So you're saying you want a safe space?... You don't see the irony there?

 

[VampireLord1024]

But some moderators can't do that – they feel like they're saving the world by de-listing conversation that offends them personally, so they use their "power" to harm the community

I bet mods on other sites are like that.

Or you could look at it like this: Noone needs to know who you want to fuck, or if you want to wear womens clothing. Just don't make it my problem and leave kids out of it.

Exactly, no one really wants to know who people sleep with, if they enjoy wearing women's clothing for whatever reasons and I agree with the last part as well.

 

[Additional Damage]

Read all comments...Why am I laughing so loud?

 

[Gorse]

I don't mean to sound snide, dear Gorse, but it looks to me like you are trying to create your own precedent here.

I am! That's why I laid one out, very clearly. You'll see it below:

No matter how many annotations he puts on the rules

I think just one is enough: Moderators shouldn't be able to ban someone for discussing an otherwise controversial topic in good faith.

So you're saying you want a safe space?... You don't see the irony there?

I want an arena where people can reasonably, rationally discuss "controversial" topics like adults, without fear of being shut down purely by an upset mod. I want it to be "safe" in that no legitimate harassment or slurs or anything nefarious are used, but the point I'm making is that I don't want discussion to be removed just because a mod disagrees with it.

I bet you thought you'd get me with that one, didn't you? I've been at this game quite a while!

 

[Strategist]

I think just one is enough: Moderators shouldn't be able to ban someone for discussing an otherwise controversial topic in good faith.

How do you determine what is good faith though?

What if somebody wants to discuss the merits of the Nationalist Socialist Party in good faith? Who would tolerate that?

Your policies are making mods jobs harder, not easier.

 

[RageBurner]

I want an arena where people can reasonably, rationally discuss "controversial" topics like adults, without fear of being shut down purely by an upset mod. I want it to be "safe" in that no legitimate harassment or slurs or anything nefarious are used, but the point I'm making is that I don't want discussion to be removed just because a mod disagrees with it.

From where I'm standing, we already have that. I don't think a trial by fire is necessary.

 

[DrunkOcelot]

From where I'm standing, we already have that. I don't think a trial by fire is necessary.

I haven't been here that long, but from where I'm standing it does seem like there's not alot of nefarious modding going on. But I also respect Gorse's opinion, dude seems like he's been here a long time.

 

[ATenderLad]

I wonder about that, too.

I don't actually think any of the mods are going to address my issue or ban me – I must be a thorn in their side, because, aside from Yousef (whom I love), I'm the most popular non-mod member, and I disagree with a lot of what they have to say. Frankly, I consider it my duty to stand up for people who actually want to have some meaningful discussion that they couldn't anywhere else. Like... Jesus. I'm RGT's Jesus.

(That was a joke, obviously.)


Me and Spike are TIGHT, YO!!!!!! (Not actually, I've just been here a long time and I'm pretty sure he realizes I'm not a troll or bad actor.)


I've posted my detailed arguments again and again in this thread, and the only response you've given me is "get over it". You'll continue making catty, passive-aggressive, content-free insults, because you have no legitimate arguments against me besides "I disagree with you, and I'm a mod". That's exactly the issue I'm talking about, and you've done a great job proving me right.


They have, repeatedly – read the thread back, or see any of my trillions of interactions with my friends right here on RGT. And here's some quantifiable, hard-data numbers to go along with those claims. I say it because... it's true. I know you don't like me, but I'm not really concerned with that – I've got loads of friends, and I'm looking forward to making many more. It's pretty easy to do that when you encourage open discussion and not catty, smug, passive-aggressive snipes.

Making long, outlandish posts, dripping with snide remarks, and then insisting I'm attacking you doesn't feel like anything but a grab for attention.

The only argument you've made is that, based entirely on my addition, the mod team should commit to a pledge you've designed. The rest has just been you insisting we have no choice but to do as you say, or ban you. (Also on your insistence.) Assuming that I'll ban someone for mentioning DEI or Woke is just that, an assumption. They're obviously very broad, nebulous terms, we couldn't simply agree that no one who invokes them won't see some kind of moderation. Some folks use them for a topic, others as a dogwhistle.

(My personal opinion on them is that they're relatively loaded phrases with too many shorthand implications. That's the fault of "The Discourse" more than anything, but it's the Internet we're stuck with. Consequently I'd say they start to railroad conversation more than empower it, and would rather see people use more specific language and examples, as opposed to waving to a catch-all term.)

You also clearly took the "claiming you're popular" comment as an attack, when it was a question: So what?

Hell, I didn't even dislike you before, despite our arguments. You remind me of someone and I projected a bit and scolded you, they're a bit of a younger brother to me. I'm *glad* you have friends, I spent the evening with mine watching Den of Thieves 2. (Mayyyybe not as good as the first, but I still loved it.)

 

[DrunkOcelot]

Making long, outlandish posts, dripping with snide remarks, and then insisting I'm attacking you doesn't feel like anything but a grab for attention.

The only argument you've made is that, based entirely on my addition, the mod team should commit to a pledge you've designed. The rest has just been you insisting we have no choice but to do as you say, or ban you. (Also on your insistence.) Assuming that I'll ban someone for mentioning DEI or Woke is just that, an assumption. They're obviously very broad, nebulous terms, we couldn't simply agree that no one who invokes them won't see some kind of moderation. Some folks use them for a topic, others as a dogwhistle.

(My personal opinion on them is that they're relatively loaded phrases with too many shorthand implications. That's the fault of "The Discourse" more than anything, but it's the Internet we're stuck with. Consequently I'd say they start to railroad conversation more than empower it, and would rather see people use more specific language and examples, as opposed to waving to a catch-all term.)

You also clearly took the "claiming you're popular" comment as an attack, when it was a question: So what?

Hell, I didn't even dislike you before, despite our arguments. You remind me of someone and I projected a bit and scolded you, they're a bit of a younger brother to me. I'm *glad* you have friends, I spent the evening with mine watching Den of Thieves 2. (Mayyyybe not as good as the first, but I still loved it.)

I didn't know there was lore.
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[ATenderLad]

I didn't know there was lore.

Nah we've had like two negative interactions and a lot more positive ones, I didn't really think he cared this much.

 

[RageBurner]

It's looking to me like the stuff of legend.
Seriously though, it has probably blown out of proportion at this point.

 

[ATenderLad]

It's looking to me like the stuff of legend.
Seriously though, it has probably blown out of proportion at this point.

Probably, this has all run pretty far afield. I'm not sure it's anything but an argument that can be had in DM's beyond this point, but I'll let someone else close the thread so it doesn't look like I've gone mad with, uh, limited power.

 

[DrunkOcelot]

Probably, this has all run pretty far afield. I'm not sure it's anything but an argument that can be had in DM's beyond this point, but I'll let someone else close the thread so it doesn't look like I've gone mad with, uh, limited power.

We're all pretty invested at this point. You guys should have a duel or something

 

[ZombieFish]

Heh. I think I low key love this place.

 

[RageBurner]

At this point we should just

 

[Cheela]

It was definitely one of the threads of all time