Hot takes

Side note: I'm putting some of you on ignore and just leaving this thread. This forum is too hostile to handle this thread topic in a mature and academic manner. And honestly, I worry about how other threads will turn out. It's a sad state of affairs that people here can derail everything by just screaming at someone just for participating normally until another unrelated person comes in and also screams at them until they are forced to go away. It's things like this that ruin forums like this.
 
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Yea I love NGE so I've scoured the internet for years and years for every morsel of info I can get my hands on. Still can't view the religious stuff as simply "cool window dressing" because no matter how many rewatches I commit to it just never registers as that vapid to me.

For FF7, you may have been surprised! A couple hero drinks, the Big Guard and White Wind skills and more would all have fixed any issues you'd have been having on their own, let alone if you combined any of them together in a run. FF7 is kind of wild because it is probably the single best example of a game that just lets players become ludicrously overpowered at almost all stages of the game for minimal effort so long as you understand the mechanics or get a couple good tips from someone in the know. I love it for that, feels like everytime I replay it I find some new way to break it apart either through a simple materia combination or an elaborate strategy to get something early. Obviously, it's a hefty commitment to replay, but if you ever do, I'd be down to throw a couple quick tips your way to make the game fairly smooth sailing with minimal effort.
i don't know if you seen this video but it goes over a lot of eva stuff and anno himself. it's long but very good.
i know you mean well, but this would have never convinced younger me. i played ff4 on the psx, and they apparently nerfed buff spells so much i was convinced that they did nothing whatsoever. about a decade later when i was playing ff12 did i see them being useful and i learned that i started off with an intentionally hard ff game. i still a hve this mentality and i have to remind myself to use that stuff in other games.
i don't have my save file for ff7 any more, but i plan on using guides if i ever get back to 7. i do want to play through the demake version of the game that i found on cdromance. it looked crazy.
 
Okay, I was going to just ignore you for what you're doing, but this is the second time you've done it, with the second problem this thread had.

You are not helping, and you do not know how to do it right. And you are making things worse.

Each time you've tried to "moderate", you've placed the blame on me. You haven't been objective; you've just looked at the fact that I was talking about a subject which involved art critique (not even critique of people) and someone reacting emotionally to it, and you decided I'm to blame. That is not how moderation works.

Just stop. You're not the moderator here, and you aren't doing anything that earns the position. You're just egging on people who are already in an emotional state and making it worse.
I think you're arguing in bad faith and are guilty of the same things you're accusing others for in your posts (but for some reason it doesn't apply to you) and are inserting yourself into conversations with an authorative air that makes it easier for you to appear rational when people react "emotionally" to your generalizing and condescending tone, because every time you've done this for the past few days, it's escalated into you threatning to report people because they ultimately don't agree with your interpretation of something.

That's not how arguing or discussing works. You don't get to be all matter-of-fact, then react like everyone's wrong when they're doing similar things. If anything, it reads like you're trying to bait reactions out of people so that you can "shut them down" most of the time.

Just in this very conversation (just like the zoomer one last week, and the South Park one yesterday) you used generalizations, got called out on it, then acted like only the ones you discussed with did. In fact, in this conversation, regardless of fake being hostile, instead of trying to hold a dialogue, you dig yourself deeper by using generalizations and anectodal evidence about a group of people. Fake did the same thing, after your reply. You even claim yourself that;
"But those are exceptions. The people you know are not a statistical sample. The people you know in any situation, any context, any discussion of any topic are never a statistical sample. Not unless you have literally thousand of friends, which hardly anyone does."

But this somehow doesn't apply to you? Someone challenges your claims, and then suddenly they're the ones who were hostile the entire time, and you leave the conversation.

You don't need to be 100% pragmatic the whole time, not everyone is at the same intellectual/emotional level as others in forums, so stop trying to force everyone to your standard.

Also, I don't see how I ever "screamed" at you. I told fake to calm down, and yesterday I told you to calm down because you were throwing threats around and being increasingly liberal with what constitutes an insult, while Lee was as normal as can be, they just disagreed with you on a cartoon. Both you were risking derailing the thread by continuing. I just stepped in and said that you're going off-topic. That's not "moderating", that's wanting the thread to be healthy.
 
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To be honest I think that VII suffers from some filler-ish moments around.

I also think that JENOVA has been underused. She was shown as the major antagonist and the one responsible to everything that happened in the game yet you just defeat her several times as a normal boss despite the cool theme...

The thread she represents is kinda lessened by how Sephiroth and Shinra basically just used her as a tool.

Same with how Yevon is the true antagonist of X yet it's a miserable tick like parasite.
Within the context of the story Jenova's lessened power and overall relevance makes sense. Her existence as a main player happens before the game, so prequel material would be counted on to really explore her more.

As for Yevon, that existence is kind of the point, right down to the form itself. He's a shell of a man who gave up his humanity in that selfish attempt to create an unending Zanarkand, detached from outside interference. He has become nothing more than an insect, a parasite to the living world, his false religion and useless cycle of death serving only to perpetuate his desired dream Zanarkand. A tick also requires a host to live, on its own it is simply an annoyance that is hard to get rid of but rarely dangerous when not infecting a host. This is true of Yevon and the requirement of the final aeon in order to sustain himself. In the end the source of all the suffering wasn't so much the people at the top of the system of abuse. Rather, the problem was the system itself merely being propped up by society at large. In this way you can very easily draw parallels between various real life struggles that humanity faces and the causes of those struggles. Many are caused by powerful and corrupt systems that feel insurmountable despite the people at the top benefitting/perpetuating these systems being just as fragile and insignificant as anyone else is on their own.

I get that it can be seen as overly symbolic, but I think as a final encounter it works far better thematically than yet another climactic fight. Square was pretty good at weaving thematics into fights throughout their RPGs in the 90s and 00s, and I do think that was another example of them getting it right.
 
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Potato > Pasta > Rice > Couscous > Bulgur
 
As an italian appreciate you putting pasta over rice, however it wasn't number 1 so I'm afraid I'm gonna have to take your thumbs
In the deep frozen wastes we learn from the medicine women and the chieftain at an early age that it is always funny to belittle Italian and French cooking

(even though they’re actually probably the best)
 
But I dislike the whole "hard childhood" because it implies that kids having abusive parents will end up being abuser themselves systematically (and making jokes about the "quiet kid").

Also people should stop feeling bad for liking a villain. On the net it's easy to say "if your favourite character is the Joker then it's a red flag about you" when we are smart enough to know that liking isn't condoning.


Edit: Also I find it weird how they also correlate evil with geniuses. Like the most cliche villain name is "Doctor something" while good doctors are mostly for medicine (or they're being called Professor).


After reading The Killing Joke again, while I think The Joker does not need a backstory to exist, I can tell that even before he turned into what he is there was something uncanny about that person (as if he always had that madness going around before the incident finally unleashed it).

Well kids that have shit parents can end up as all sorts of bad stuff, not every time but it's a factor; I do think that modern shows try not making the villain Too Bad or else the viewers might not sympathize with them, which makes em boring. I like a villain that does bad stuff but I can still imagine how he feels. I love Ramses from Prince of Egypt that's a good example

But going back to what you said earlier yeah, I want my evil bastards back, proud evil geniuses or demons or sadists
Remember when villains had cool deaths? Those were the days..
Speaking of live action I'd also love more villains that were just Cool like Alex DeLarge from Clockwork Orange. I can't remember the last time In saw a villain in a modern movie that was just fun to watch
 
I can't remember the last time In saw a villain in a modern movie that was just fun to watch
It’s an adaptation sure but I loved Austin Butler’s character in Dune 2. Dude was impossible to read and a joy to watch for it.
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It’s an adaptation sure but I loved Austin Butler’s character in Dune 2. Dude was impossible to read and a joy to watch for it.
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With how many adaptations have nothing to do with the og I'd still count it
I've been meaning to read dune for a while or at least watch the 90s movie because it's listen in book of lost memories (official lore book for silent hill) as one of the ispirations
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are you sure this is real? looks like an ai shitpost.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA X.D
 
With how many adaptations have nothing to do with the og I'd still count it
I've been meaning to read dune for a while or at least watch the 90s movie because it's listen in book of lost memories (official lore book for silent hill) as one of the ispirations
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA X.D
The new movie is more accurate than the old one, in general.
But you should still watch the old one because it’s a David Lynch film and if you like Silent Hill you should watch everything he has ever made :)
 
I got one, thanks to @Bjorvy.
Twin Peaks was cool because it was more regulated than Lynch's regular stuff.
I would not sit down to watch 30 episodes of "No hay banda"
 
Oh! I've always wanted to do this on a nerd forum but I never had the chance because I was too young and I finally watched em a few years ago but it's like the primordial forum argument. (Might not even be a remotely hot take nowadays lol)

Picard > Kirk
 
are you sure this is real? looks like an ai shitpost.

For the record I watched the whole thing, it was before I realized the animation industry I grew up with (not just the 00s, I watched all sorts of stuff from the 40s onwards) no longer exists so I still watched everything new

Good animation I can't deny that
Not good enough to save this shit, bland ass perfect boring character that wont even harm a completly evil woman, perfect boring side character; the only thing I remember about him is that he's gay, I think he repaired stuff? Animal side kick thats just there to be annoying
There was the little girl that had A Little more going on? But she gets one 2 min flashback the rest is her being angry until the main character convinces her to be happy
Boring ass parents
The gay guy gets a boyfriend, I dont remember anything about him other than he likes music and had a cassete player
The anthro animals were cute
It felt like someone's mediocre webcomic was given a ton of money

Why did they cancel infinity train but this crap stays on the air???
 
Oh! I've always wanted to do this on a nerd forum but I never had the chance because I was too young and I finally watched em a few years ago but it's like the primordial forum argument. (Might not even be a remotely hot take nowadays lol)

Picard > Kirk
Olimar > space dandy>picard and kirk. the true order of space captains.
 
No opinion on the show (yet) but I think something as vapid-yet-loaded of a critique as "tumblr shit" means its gotta be good. Onto the backlog it goes.

I explained why I hated it if you're curious
 
For the record I watched the whole thing, it was before I realized the animation industry I grew up with (not just the 00s, I watched all sorts of stuff from the 40s onwards) no longer exists so I still watched everything new

Good animation I can't deny that
Not good enough to save this shit, bland ass perfect boring character that wont even harm a completly evil woman, perfect boring side character; the only thing I remember about him is that he's gay, I think he repaired stuff? Animal side kick thats just there to be annoying
There was the little girl that had A Little more going on? But she gets one 2 min flashback the rest is her being angry until the main character convinces her to be happy
Boring ass parents
The gay guy gets a boyfriend, I dont remember anything about him other than he likes music and had a cassete player
The anthro animals were cute
It felt like someone's mediocre webcomic was given a ton of money

Why did they cancel infinity train but this crap stays on the air???
the people in charge are the ones who bully the nerds and otakus and think that if something is animated it can not be deep or mature.
i would like to introduce those people to evangelion, apocalypse zero, genocyber, mad bull 34, ghost in the shell and cowboy bebop. i don't think that they have ever actually seen a cartoon before ever in their lives.
 
Oh! I've always wanted to do this on a nerd forum but I never had the chance because I was too young and I finally watched em a few years ago but it's like the primordial forum argument. (Might not even be a remotely hot take nowadays lol)

Picard > Kirk
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the people in charge are the ones who bully the nerds and otakus and think that if something is animated it can not be deep or mature.
i would like to introduce those people to evangelion, apocalypse zero, genocyber, mad bull 34, ghost in the shell and cowboy bebop. i don't think that they have ever actually seen a cartoon before ever in their lives.

actually I think all or mostt of them watched jap stuff, like I said already


I think some of em would faint if you showed em Mad Bull 34 though lol

Genocyber babyyy!!!
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actually I think all or mostt of them watched jap stuff, like I said already


I think some of em would faint if you showed em Mad Bull 34 though lol

Genocyber babyyy!!!
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Hahahaha I was actually thinking of that exact Simpsons scene, which led me to the realization that I need to add my vote to the eternal fight.
 
OK KO >> Steven Universe (I still like Steven U)
 

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