Hot takes

[Ikagura Ikagura]

I'm vexed by some indie devs slopping together a forced "low poly" or "low definition" graphics in order for their game to "look retro". Especially when the dev might have the talent to make the game look better but they.. don't.
There are a lot of great looking throwback graphics games and when done right and with proper talent it can look amazing, but some developers use a "retro style" as a crutch to serve low effort under the guise of "it's retro, it's supposed to look bad!"

Oh, so the same issue that many "retro styled pixel art 2D indie game" had back when it was becoming trendy to do NES-like graphics?

I agree that we've seen a rise of low poly PSX-style horror game that don't really do much efforts.

Even games like Ultrakill improved the models with updates. I also liked how Zortch looked, like a late N64 title (if not early Dreamcast).

 

[Spectro. Spectro.]

Super Mario Odyssey was a big letdown.

Super Mario Sunshine is one of the best mainline Mario games.

 

[waterxwraith]

Super Mario Odyssey was a big letdown.

Super Mario Sunshine is one of the best mainline Mario games.

I'll agree that odyssey is overhyped (still great)

but Sunshine?!

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Oh, so the same issue that many "retro styled pixel art 2D indie game" had back when it was becoming trendy to do NES-like graphics?
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I agree that we've seen a rise of low poly PSX-style horror game that don't really do much efforts.

Even games like Ultrakill improved the models with updates. I also liked how Zortch looked, like a late N64 title (if not early Dreamcast).

I've seen folks on tiktok refer to the style on the right as "millennial retro" which makes me laugh quite hard.

 

[bjork]

Super Mario Odyssey was a big letdown.

Super Mario Sunshine is one of the best mainline Mario games.

I think I agree? I got Odyssey right away, finished the story, and then never felt inclined to go back to it. The novelty of "Mario can be a dinosaur! Mario can be a weird rock guy" thing kinda wore off for me and really New Donk City is the most memorable thing for me.
I like Sunshine a lot. I kinda wish you just had unlimited water and I dislike the Yoshis in it, but other than that, hell yeah. I like the setting, the presentation, and the overall feel of Sunshine a lot.

 

[Metroid_Hybrid]

I never understood the hate that Mario Sunshine got either. It was absolutely gorgeous for its time.

I do remember that it was a bit challenging, so maybe it was that?

 

[bjork]

I never understood the hate that Mario Sunshine got either. It was absolutely gorgeous for its time.

I do remember that it was a bit challenging, so maybe it was that?

At least with Wind Waker, people were crying about it not being mature and you could go, "oh, you're acting like a spoiled kid, I get it." But with Mario, I never really understood because there never seemed to be a concrete reason.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Super Mario Odyssey was a big letdown.

Yeah maybe

Super Mario Sunshine is one of the best mainline Mario games.

Not better than 64, Galaxy, World nor Bros 3 though.

I never understood the hate that Mario Sunshine got either. It was absolutely gorgeous for its time.

I do remember that it was a bit challenging, so maybe it was that?

It looks gorgeous but graphics don't make the game.

It's challenging for the wrong reasons (mainly because of glitchy collisions and blue coins being borderline unfair).

At least with Wind Waker, people were crying about it not being mature and you could go, "oh, you're acting like a spoiled kid, I get it." But with Mario, I never really understood because there never seemed to be a concrete reason.

Maybe because it was the era of newer platformers and Sunshine kinda wasn't the Mario 128 people expected to see.

 

[bjork]

Maybe because it was the era of newer platformers and Sunshine kinda wasn't the Mario 128 people expected to see.

I wonder what it was that they were expecting? I know some of that tech demo later helped shape what would be Mario Galaxy, but I feel like people would not have been ready for Galaxy at the time of the GC.

 

[PhaseJump]

I never understood the hate that Mario Sunshine got either. It was absolutely gorgeous for its time.

I do remember that it was a bit challenging, so maybe it was that?

Unskippable cutscenes, a whole game built around similar levels or stages, needing to reload stages to grab multiple shines. It was tedious, not challenging.

There is a reason the game was considered a disappointment.

It's not even worth playing unless it's the Sunburn mod.

 

[Metroid_Hybrid]

Unskippable cutscenes, a whole game built around similar levels or stages, needing to reload stages to grab multiple shines. It was tedious, not challenging.

There is a reason the game was considered a disappointment.

It's not even worth playing unless it's the Sunburn mod.

meh..

I played and 100%'ed it back when it was the new Mario game, and I enjoyed it at the time for what it was..

 

[TheSoulWalker TheSoulWalker]

I think it would be safe to have a thread of just unpopular opinions as opposed to have a sea of threads of "This thing sucks" or "This is good actually."

Neutral ground, they don't have to be hot takes, just takes you think are unpopular but these are takes that you personally have.

My unpopular opinion is that I believe that the vocal side of the gaming community is spending more time hoping for the downfall of multiple companies and spending less time actually looking for the good titles. We are feeding into the same sale of content designed to make us angry in one way or another and are focused significantly less on stuff that is actually good.

I would recommend the flash game "We become what we behold" if you would like to see what I'm talking about.

 

[TechBlisSTer]

"When one stares into the shit abyss, the shit abyss stares back."

 

[Miles Miles]

Isn't there already a bunch of unpopular opinion threads?

 

[PhaseJump]

"When one stares into the shit abyss, the shit abyss stares back."

 

[moonbits]

Isn't there already a bunch of unpopular opinion threads?

we can have more, gamers love to complain.

 

[qw90700]

I dislike pizza.

I dislike chocolate.

Anyone who smokes, drinks alcohol and using illegal drugs can suck my dick. You endanger or at least bother others for stupid shit.

Stop paying for Nintendo, what the fuck is wrong with you? This is not a matter of "don't pay for them if you dislike them, don't tell me what to do" thing. You basically support a legal global terror organization sues people randomly even when whatever they did is nowhere related to Nintendo. Just Nintendon't let them exist lol.

Fuck PC Master Race inferior race. They reduced gaming into just a mindless 144 FPS and HZ 4K resolution "realistic graphics" gaming. Enjoy your realistic walking simulator "interactive story programs" now you dip shit. Take your 50K RTX GPU and shove it up your ass. They even ended what RPG means and they just make games walking simulator + pew pew action from time to time + unnecessary dialogue option that has no affect + an inventory management Tetris minigame or you gather tons of unnecessary items just for an illusion of stupid sense of "RPG".

Fuck "I want exclusives on a console" race too.

Fuck sheep customers who defend video game companies releasing a game that is unplayable for years. "But developing games are complex and hard", just suck my dick you submassive piece of horse and bullshit combined lol.

Fuck defenders of any form of payment companies ask despite you already bought the full game as in DLC and microtransactions and shit. Just fuck you and your mindless love for capitalism.

Fuck defenders of whatever is wrong in gaming. "Don't play it if you dislike it" my ass, there is nothing to play unless you are brain dead. They target only brain-dead people as their audience.

Welcome to my Fuck Talk, motherfucker!!!! lolol

 

[Clippy]

I dislike pizza.

I dislike chocolate.

Anyone who smokes, drinks alcohol and using illegal drugs can suck my dick. You endanger or at least bother others for stupid shit.

Stop paying for Nintendo, what the fuck is wrong with you? This is not a matter of "don't pay for them if you dislike them, don't tell me what to do" thing. You basically support a legal global terror organization sues people randomly even when whatever they did is nowhere related to Nintendo. Just Nintendon't let them exist lol.

Fuck PC Master Race inferior race. They reduced gaming into just a mindless 144 FPS and HZ 4K resolution "realistic graphics" gaming. Enjoy your realistic walking simulator "interactive story programs" now you dip shit. Take your 50K RTX GPU and shove it up your ass. They even ended what RPG means and they just make games walking simulator + pew pew action from time to time + unnecessary dialogue option that has no affect + an inventory management Tetris minigame or you gather tons of unnecessary items just for an illusion of stupid sense of "RPG".

Fuck "I want exclusives on a console" race too.

Fuck sheep customers who defend video game companies releasing a game that is unplayable for years. "But developing games are complex and hard", just suck my dick you submassive piece of horse and bullshit combined lol.

Fuck defenders of any form of payment companies ask despite you already bought the full game as in DLC and microtransactions and shit. Just fuck you and your mindless love for capitalism.

Fuck defenders of whatever is wrong in gaming. "Don't play it if you dislike it" my ass, there is nothing to play unless you are brain dead. They target only brain-dead people as their audience.

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Welcome to my Fuck Talk, motherfucker!!!! lolol

The tl;dr version:

 

[qw90700]

The tl;dr version:

The funny thing is until I was a teen I was so patient and "understanding" a kind motherfucker people were like "wow he has the patience of a prophet" and after my teenage in each year I get tons of fucks to give via my mouth, my middle finger and my dick losing my patience!!! At this age I became a mix of Angry Video Game Nerd and KMFDM. Where are my atomic bombs????? lolol

In the next session with my therapist I should mention I wanna stop explaining anything to people and I just wanna drop an atomic bomb on their head as an answer but I always end up treating my therapist and I pay money for it!!!!!

 

[starseeker300]

every mainline pokemon game since black and white has proven N right more and more.

BW2: Ghetsis tortures kyurem and uses it as a weapon. actually everything team plasma does in that game.

X&Y: on the bad guy team we got pokehitler and his fashion nazis, on the good guy side had the main "rival" not only not being able to refute his claims of pokemon being used by humans causing more harm than good, but ends up partially agreeing with his insane genocide plan!

ORAS: it expands on rse storyline showing and how the humans throw the environment out of balance and cause permeant climate change, granted it is thru the lens of just adding more biodiversity to the region (and mechanically a way to catch pokemon outside the hoenn dex) but we all know what climate change does irl

SMUSUM: Lusamine's expirements with type: null/silvally and desire to take the ultra beasts out of their natural habitats all for her own selfish desires. also the game show pokemon and humans living in harmony without the trainer relationship before a leauge comes in showing that pokemon dont need to battle. (also mega evolution lore, as dubiously canon as the dex entries are)

LGPE: Being that this is pokemon go the mainline game, you are encouraged to catch multiple of the same species and trade them for candy, which reduces the pokemon from individuals to just head of cattle which is opposed to the themes of the series

Cut and Shill: Cara Liss and Chairman Roses recklessness

Legends Arceus: VOLO, enough said. but i will say more. the game also lowkey encourages the player to constantly switch out pokeon without forming bonds with any of them, using them as tools to fulfill a job rather than treating them like indivduals

Scarlet and Violet: the whole time travel mess and creation of the artificial paradox pokemon to again invade and disrupt the pokemons environment just to fulfill the selfish whims of Arven's Parents


the games following Black and white not only renforce N's ideology by having villains that show different ways of humans exploiting them but also on a meta level gamefreak encouraging competative battling more and more over the years reduces the uniqueness of each pokemon in that if you want to battle you only sue the statistically best pokemon with max IVs and have good movepools and abilities (competative battling itself is fine irl, it is just a game with fictional virtual creatures irl) but in the universe that just creates a eugenics oriented mindset, yeah that's right this has actually also been a rant on why IVs are bad and should be removed from the game

 

[MasterEn]

I never understood the hate that Mario Sunshine got either. It was absolutely gorgeous for its time.

I do remember that it was a bit challenging, so maybe it was that?

it was bright and colorful. it's the same reason that people hated wind waker. people hated bright colors in the early to mid 2000's.
there are some annoying parts to the game, but they are doable as long as you are patient.

 

[PhaseJump]

I dislike pizza.

I dislike chocolate.

Anyone who smokes, drinks alcohol and using illegal drugs can suck my dick. You endanger or at least bother others for stupid shit.

 

[therabidfrog]

I dislike pizza.

I dislike chocolate.

Anyone who smokes, drinks alcohol and using illegal drugs can suck my dick. You endanger or at least bother others for stupid shit.

Stop paying for Nintendo, what the fuck is wrong with you? This is not a matter of "don't pay for them if you dislike them, don't tell me what to do" thing. You basically support a legal global terror organization sues people randomly even when whatever they did is nowhere related to Nintendo. Just Nintendon't let them exist lol.

Fuck PC Master Race inferior race. They reduced gaming into just a mindless 144 FPS and HZ 4K resolution "realistic graphics" gaming. Enjoy your realistic walking simulator "interactive story programs" now you dip shit. Take your 50K RTX GPU and shove it up your ass. They even ended what RPG means and they just make games walking simulator + pew pew action from time to time + unnecessary dialogue option that has no affect + an inventory management Tetris minigame or you gather tons of unnecessary items just for an illusion of stupid sense of "RPG".

Fuck "I want exclusives on a console" race too.

Fuck sheep customers who defend video game companies releasing a game that is unplayable for years. "But developing games are complex and hard", just suck my dick you submassive piece of horse and bullshit combined lol.

Fuck defenders of any form of payment companies ask despite you already bought the full game as in DLC and microtransactions and shit. Just fuck you and your mindless love for capitalism.

Fuck defenders of whatever is wrong in gaming. "Don't play it if you dislike it" my ass, there is nothing to play unless you are brain dead. They target only brain-dead people as their audience.

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Welcome to my Fuck Talk, motherfucker!!!! lolol

I always look forward to seeing your responses in threads. You are a wild man and I love it.

Also I think Alien Isolation is hot garbage and I refuse to believe people actually like it. The game is 14 hours long and the only part anyone ever talks about is like 4 total hours of the run time.

 

[bjork]

Anybody wishing for a studio or company closure really needs to either step back and reassess what they're saying. Wishing for anybody to be out of work is not thinking straight.

 

[qw90700]

I always look forward to seeing your responses in threads. You are a wild man and I love it.

lolol

Also I think Alien Isolation is hot garbage and I refuse to believe people actually like it. The game is 14 hours long and the only part anyone ever talks about is like 4 total hours of the run time.

Yeah tell me about it. As if they didn't play a better game before. I appreciate the concept they came up with but it wasn't properly implemented in the game.

The first 2 hours of the game is just a walking simulator, and when shit happens it's just a boring "hide and seek" game. Sometimes the game is too unfair like the alien constantly and randomly warps under your ass and then it kills the point of the game for me and also my ass lol. Sometimes aliens never leave your ass despite you hide for hours. I'm good at stealth thanks to me Metal Gear and Thief experiences but they didn't do the shit right. In the end it doesn't feel like the movies at all anyway. And then they give you a gun that cannot kill aliens. Oh another adaptation that they completely ignored how the original is SMH.

Not that I care how they ruin Alien video games but I really liked the one on PS1 called Alien Resurrection. This is da one I would call a "real Alien game experience".

 

[PhaseJump]

Anybody wishing for a studio or company closure really needs to either step back and reassess what they're saying. Wishing for anybody to be out of work is not thinking straight.

I'm thinking straight enough.

I want a ton of them to be put out of work. Specifically the ones who felt comfortable enough to be calling for more violence, death threats, praising assassinations on social media not too long ago.