Gen z says No to modernslop

[Retro Doomer]

I propose we make a new term for "thing i dont like"

Hm agree what about this game is bad maxxing

 

[SamanthaSamantha's icon]

I don't know what you all think about it, but the word "slop" is getting on my nerves.

I'm with you — what the fuck does it even mean? Our Twitter ways are such garbage.

 

[BrawlMan]

I'm with you — what the fuck does it even mean?

Trash or junk food you feed to the pigs, or specific farm animals.

I propose we make a new term for "thing i dont like"

We already did that decades ago: shit, crap, garbage, trash, muck, etc. I bet you any of those will replace slop and get overused as well.

 

[SamanthaSamantha's icon]

Trash or junk food you feed to the pigs, or specific farm animals.

NGL, I didn't think it had meaning at all. Certainly never heard the word/concept offline.

But now I like it even less because it feels dripping with contempt, which takes all the power out of a jab.

 

[Ikagura]

I remember a Daria episode about a character being obsessed about retro-swing to the point he was being elitist and infuriating.

You can appreciate the aesthetic and feel of a previous epoch but not to the point it would be come obsessive...

 

[BrawlMan]

NGL, I didn't think it had meaning at all. Certainly never heard the word/concept offline.

Really? Even in school, it's a term you learn as far as back as elementary. I know that might not be the case nowadays, but it is still surprising, since it was very commonplace back then. Before the late 2010s at least.

But now I like it even less because it feels dripping with contempt, which takes all the power out of a jab.

Exactly. These terms are used in nothing, but contempt or to look down upon people for enjoying games they don't. The people who use these terms think they're the smartest persons in the room or immune to such "slop". When nine out of ten times they're part of the problem, or have no problem buying anything from Ubisoft if it's a "safe bet". Or more than happy to ignore a large company's dubious actions when it benefits them or their specific narrative.

 

[Retro Doomer]

NGL, I didn't think it had meaning at all. Certainly never heard the word/concept offline.

But now I like it even less because it feels dripping with contempt, which takes all the power out of a jab.

The term is cooked gonna use crooked game instead or something else yo the term slop dies quicker than woke hm.

I hate games low maxxing their quality ;)

 

[SamanthaSamantha's icon]

Really? Even in school, it's a term you learn as far as back as elementary. I know that might not be the case nowadays, but it is still surprising, since it was very commonplace back then. Before the late 2010s at least.

Well... English is not my first language. That may have something to do with it ^^U!

 

[BrawlMan]

Well... English is not my first language. That may have something to do with it ^^U!

Understandable and still not your fault either way.

 

[Unassuming_Spook]

This is a major 50/50 thing to me. I'm not at all fond of most remakes primarly because they dumb down the difficulty. Not just modern games either, also older games have editions of titles that are much easier than the originals such as Dragon Quest 1, 2, 3 ect. The SNES vs. the original NES versions. Today I hear about remakes and how they introduce, "Quality of Life" features that the originals didn't have, but they turn out making the games much easier. This is really just my opinion and I find more fun in challenge. To be completely honest, I have very few modern titles on my Steam account and most of them are survival games like Dying Light.

What I prefer though is older games, mostly PC RPGs, such as Dungeon Siege, Dungeon Lords CE, Sacred Gold ect. I also prefer a lot of console RPGs too. Steam used to be a client I would turn to for newer titles but unfortunately it's store is flooded with early access by developers who expect people to wait a lifetime for them to complete their games. That, or they just plain abandon their projects.

Last, if a modern game is too heavy on political stuff, I would avoid it because I don't like how mean people have become over them. I rather give a person a hug rather than question their views in life. Being human is already hard enough.

 

[BrawlMan]

This is a major 50/50 thing to me. I'm not at all fond of most remakes primarly because they dumb down the difficulty.

No they don't. Streamlining it? Yes. "Dumbing Down"? Most don't do that. There are harder difficulty options and modes, but most of them don't kick you in the dick immediately. The challenge is still there, if or when a player wants it. This bullshit argument has been pedaled around since the 7th generation. Not every single person is going to want and overly difficult game at the start. I love challenging games too, but I am not going to freak out, because there is an Easy Mode, or the game in question is easier compared to the remake or whatever previous entry.

 

[Majormachina]

older games have editions of titles that are much easier than the originals such as Dragon Quest 1, 2, 3 ect. The SNES vs. the original NES versions.

to be fair, the nes dragon quest games were insanely grind heavy. wasnt so much difficult as it was tedious

 

[Unassuming_Spook]

No they don't. Streamlining it? Yes. "Dumbing Down"? Most don't do that. There are harder difficulty options and modes, but most of them don't kick you in the dick immediately. The challenge is still there, if or when a player wants it. This bullshit argument has been pedaled around since the 7th generation. Not every single person is going to want and overly difficult game at the start. I love challenging games too, but I am not going to freak out, because there is an Easy Mode, or the game in question is easier compared to the remake or whatever previous entry.

I don't mean any tension. Moving on. This thread feels too heated.

 

[BrawlMan]

I don't mean any tension. Moving on. This thread feels too heated.

Not trying to create tension either, but its ad nauseam take/argument I got sick before 8th generation barely even started. Most people play games to chill, and that is not a bad thing. Most "difficult" games from the past were either poorly scrapped together, or made insanely hard for no reason, other than to stop people from renting games, and purchase them to actually beat them. If possible. The same applies to most arcade games. They were made to be difficult from the start, and not make you "manly/put chest hair" on you. It's all self-gaslighting and marketing hype bullshit. Max Dood called this out years ago. He wasn't the only one, but certain old-school gamers either got offended, really defensive, or in-denial.

 

[Unassuming_Spook]

Not trying to create tension either, but its ad nauseam take/argument I got sick before 8th generation barely even started. Most people play games to chill, and that is not a bad thing. Most "difficult" games from the past were either poorly scrapped together, or made insanely hard for no reason, other than to stop people from renting games, and purchase them to actually beat them. If possible. The same applies to most arcade games. They were made to be difficult from the start, and not make you "manly/put chest hair" on you. It's all self-gaslighting and marketing hype bullshit. Max Dood called this out years ago. He wasn't the only one, but certain old-school gamers either got offended, really defensive, or in-denial.

I understand.

 

[Badseed Badseed]

I'm old and I don't give a F what anyone thinks. If you like it and It don't
hurt anyone PLAY IT!!

 

[Bacon Eater64x]

There are good games coming out but the days of the gaming monoculture ala E3 announcements are gone, and AAA titles have met diminishing returns (also something something pricing economy and all that jazz)

But to be fair i was never super invested in the new shiny western AAA titles in my gaming youth, so it's no surprise they fail to appeal to me nowadays.

 

[Stardust Queen]

Honestly for me it's money too. AAA shit is too expensive and not as much fun. Emulation is the only way I could afford games for most of my life. It's why I'm saddened by the switch 2 price....

Wouldn't bash on millennials tho, we're both in the same sinking boat...

 

[Princess Viola]

No joke ever time I see articles or videos or whatever talking about how 'Younger generations are rejecting modern stuff and going back to the OLD things' I'm just like...are they really doing this or are you just some clickbaiter who found like some minor subculture into this stuff and pretending it represents the generation as a whole?

You see it with basically anything, not just gaming. Find some clubs of younger people into collecting BDs and DVDs? GEN Z IS REJECTING STREAMING AND GOING BACK TO PHYSICAL MEDIA.

 

[RageBurner]

No joke ever time I see articles or videos or whatever talking about how 'Younger generations are rejecting modern stuff and going back to the OLD things' I'm just like...are they really doing this or are you just some clickbaiter who found like some minor subculture into this stuff and pretending it represents the generation as a whole?

You see it with basically anything, not just gaming. Find some clubs of younger people into collecting BDs and DVDs? GEN Z IS REJECTING STREAMING AND GOING BACK TO PHYSICAL MEDIA.

Alarmist discourse, sweeping generalizations, bombastic statements... that's what oils the social engineering machine, sadly.

 

[Unassuming_Spook]

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I'm old and I don't give a F what anyone thinks. If you like it and It don't
hurt anyone PLAY IT!!

Hmmm.

 

[dkpopman]

Every time there's a conversation about modern AAA compared to old games, the conversation always turns into a monotone mudslinging fight.

Both are as good as they are bad, and their goodness or lack thereof are subjective.

 

[Unassuming_Spook]

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I'm old and I don't give a F what anyone thinks. If you like it and It don't
hurt anyone PLAY IT!!

Sorry for my last reply. I wasn't in dark mode. I only saw the GIF and not the message.

 

[Retro Doomer]

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I'm old and I don't give a F what anyone thinks. If you like it and It don't
hurt anyone PLAY IT!!

Okay grandpa

time to go to bed now ;)

 

[Ikagura]

No joke ever time I see articles or videos or whatever talking about how 'Younger generations are rejecting modern stuff and going back to the OLD things' I'm just like...are they really doing this or are you just some clickbaiter who found like some minor subculture into this stuff and pretending it represents the generation as a whole?

You see it with basically anything, not just gaming. Find some clubs of younger people into collecting BDs and DVDs? GEN Z IS REJECTING STREAMING AND GOING BACK TO PHYSICAL MEDIA.

It reminds me of the Vinyl fad. I do like the sound of a vinyl disc sometimes but ultimately it's silly to think that "if you listen music in this way and not that other way you're not actually listening to it correctly".