Switch Are you buying the switch 2 ?

[Aisf]

No. It is too expensive. I might as well just buy an Xbox because at least they can do emulation of their hardware right.

 

[Fenir]

There are no $90 games.

That's being in complete denial, and delusion. If they get away with it, that will not only be the normal price the games (if the price sells why to lower it) as they will not come in the card. All the industry will move to digital games, access codes and game-key cards.
Also this has nothing to do with inflation. If there is anything inflated it's the price of outdated hardware and these games that have nothing (actual) new in them.
This is just greed, and short sighted non-gamer CEOs, and that's why a tech demo/tutorial game is being charged.

 

[RetroCasual]

Egg McMuffin buddy, what I really think is that the point here is to feed or not to feed the monster... Or at least try to make the monster behave.

Inflation truly exists (you say it is a bitch, I think that it is much worse than a bitch), but just as someone said some lines up, it's just the perfect excuse to commit a crime and feed the greed at the same time.
Nintendo has more than 100 millions of potential clients inherited from the first Switch console and should not fall into the same big mistake as Sony Playstation did. You might think that you will earn more money by raising prices, but the truth is that you will lose too many clients.

I'm a "gamer" since before the term of "gamer" began to exist, and I still don't know a single title (from Nintendo, Sega, Sony, Microsoft, third parties or PC) worth more than 60 bucks, I find it ridiculous. Same story goes for a gamepad (90 bucks for a Pro controller 2 still wihout analogical triggers??) or a streaming service running at 10 fps... And none console should cost the half of the salary of any working person, just like lots of more things in life.
Consoles and videogames are not done to be elitist things. And now even more than before, in the Internet era, the whole package gets better as much as the number of their users grow, so big companies should learn that dissapointing the users is not the best selling strategy.

Despite that, I'm in the group that thinks that this new console (because of its hybrid nature) has an almost reasonable price (an oled screen and the double of memory size would be O.K.), but not the games... Everybody likes Mario Kart or Donkey Kong, but abusing from nostalgia and colorful and friendly tricks of programmation to elevate the regular prices will not make any good to the community of gamers, which are the real supporters of the online gaming and the videogames in general.

And of course I've got to say an absolute NOT to those horrible key cards which are just a waste of resources. They could be a smart solution to save memory space if the downloaded game keeps stored within the cartridge, but seems that's not gonna happen, so fuck that.

 

[Egg (McMuffin) Man]

If they get away with it

There's nothing to get away with; none of the games cost $90. You're mad over something that isn't even true.

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the point here is to feed or not to feed the monster

Than don't buy it.

 

[MAXJUVENTUS]

in 2029

 

[Fenir]

There's nothing to get away with; none of the games cost $90. You're mad over something that isn't even true.

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Than don't buy it.

Ahahah! Sure, probably the very best Nintendo cult fan boys members, will get the physical version discounted. :-) Seriously though, I hope you are right. Good luck!

 

[RetroCasual]

There's nothing to get away with; none of the games cost $90. You're mad over something that isn't even true.

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Than don't buy it.

Kinda funny how you cut full sentences to reply to them the way you want.

But seriously, I might buy it or not, day one or later, maybe in 2029 as another buddy said, maybe never.
I'm just expecting things to come to decide, but dissapointed for now with the way Nintendo is handling the situation. Since the launch day will be in two months (5th June) I think that things can't get much worse, so let's see if they can get better.

 

[Alcyone]

Nope. I will not buy it right now and wait until the price are super cheap.Nintendo switch 2 its not worth to pay with that hefty price,besides i have other consoles to finish their games.

 

[Leo-Dash]

I'm better off saving for a new PC, or even Better a Steam Deck and fill it with Indie games and Emus

Games going for 90 € for Europe
I'm baffled some Switch 2 Games physical release won't even include the game in the cartridge...
They are just keys so you can download them online... on Switch 2's Hard Drive/Flash... not even the cartridge

 

[FrayGuillermo]

At the predicted 400€ mark I would've bought, but now I'll just wait for the price to drop quite a bit. Hoping for a 3ds situation

 

[nobitakun]

I'm better off saving for a new PC, or even Better a Steam Deck and fill it with Indie games and Emus

Games going for 90 € for Europe
I'm baffled some Switch 2 Games physical release won't even include the game in the cartridge...
They are just keys so you can download them online... on Switch 2's Hard Drive/Flash... not even the cartridge
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That is amazing. It's a pity Switch 2 games are not all download only, because that way I would save tons of money :). Sorry to say, but bought digital games and downloaded games look both the same, so I will not pay a cent for them.

Nintendo is going to rock this time ;D

 

[Egg (McMuffin) Man]

dissapointed for now with the way Nintendo is handling the situation

What do you mean? What has Nintendo actually done wrong in this situation? Adjust their prices based on tarrifs and inflation?

 

[Fenir]

greedflation

 

[iamthemilkman]

Definitely. If I get it at launch is TBD. If the tariff situation with Vietnam gets worked out and the price remains $450, I'll bite. If not, I'm not touching it until the price comes down.

This is a win for Nintendo, though. If the Vietnam tariffs get removed as is being talked about, that means Nintendo can claim victory because people will accept the current price instead of saying "Drop the price."

 

[RetroCasual]

What do you mean? What has Nintendo actually done wrong in this situation? Adjust their prices based on tarrifs and inflation?

At the moment, in your opinion, all you defend is that Nintendo has only raised prices "to be up to date with inflation". In my opinion, if you want to increase the price "to be up to date", you have to be consequent and be up to date with hardware specs, functions and related software. I'm almost O.K. with its portable hardware, not with TV mode or software prices unless more news or rectifications come.

New Nintendo console has not raised its storage capacity to be up to date with modern size of the games (256 GB is gonna be ridiculous for 4K gaming). New games (or old games with the 4K patch) are gonna easily take 1/4 or more of the default storage capacity. Why not a new cartridge standard to keep the game and the updates within, to save memory space and preserve physical format, instead of those new and horrible key-cards which are just a waste of physical and distribution resources?

New Nintendo console still hasn't implemented an analogue trigger in the new joycons to be up to date with the old Gamecube controller from 2001.

Battery life is 2 hours when playing the most demanding games (same as the first Steam Deck from beginnings of 2022). That's not really regrettable only to Nintendo because it's the same shit with all new portable half PC-half console systems... But new Nintendo console has not implemented modern screen standards when taking a step back by using again a led screen that looks impressingly good, but consumes more battery life while not giving the best colors and contrast.

However the hardware presented is almost top for a portable console, it really isn't for a home console. The new dock should do much more things than just rescale games and cool the system with a fan (I hope a very silent fan). Maybe it could help to improve that video-chat and screen-sharing running on pedals at 10 fps or less... Or help to store the 4K upgrade patches so the memory of the console does not suffer... We still don't know about a game recording function too that could be really helpful...

And in the worst part, new Nintendo Switch 2 games look fun, pretty and good, but not really top technically speaking. You could keep saying that they will be impressive games for a hybrid console, but in fact that's what they're gonna become: inferior games to games in other systems. So the price of its videogames shouldn't be top.
By the way, who is gonna buy that video-game-tutorial to learn how to use joycons and the rest of the console for 10 bucks? That should be included for free within the system.
And yes, you can deny it as many times as you want, but unless there is a rectification, Mario Kart World is planned to be sold at 90 bucks in physical format day one worldwide. And that could become a really bad precedent.

 

[Pseudo64]

Better question would be:

Are you buying a Nintendo Switch 2 or buying 6 months worth of groceries?

 

[marky]

Nope, I was 80% sure I won't get it, the fact you still need to download the game despite having physical cart just pushed it to 99%.

I'm better off saving for a new PC, or even Better a Steam Deck and fill it with Indie games and Emus

Games going for 90 € for Europe
I'm baffled some Switch 2 Games physical release won't even include the game in the cartridge...
They are just keys so you can download them online... on Switch 2's Hard Drive/Flash... not even the cartridge
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Did you know that this is nothing new and was already on the first Switch, only now they've labelled it more clearly? On Switch, these are games that have the words ‘internet download required’ on the box. In them you have a cartridge, but the whole game(s) are not on it and you have to download them.

And just for information - Switch 2 preorders officially start on 9 April. Shops that already have preorders are simply trying to milk you out of your money to overpay.

 

[stoicvampirepig]

Oh I've no doubt that at some point I'll get one, but I'm not being an early adopter, screw that, Nintendo deserves to learn a lesson about economics.

 

[Nidstang]

Ideally I will be buying it. I love the Switch and Switch 2 looks great.

Only things holding me back are:
• Some confusion over physical games vs the game keys
• It doesnt have perfect compatibility with all Switch games, and in fact EMULATES Switch 1, instead of playing those games natively
• The price is INSANE and I'm poor right now

 

[Nebulon_Galaxy]

- No GAMES
WHERE ARE THE GAMES!?
How can a company thats been doing this for decades not have more than 2 fucking games on release? Did they learn nothing from past mistakes? Also Switch 2 versions are just digitial codes and not physical. Why bother making cases than?
- Didnt mention anything about JoyCon drift
Thats a huge redflag for me.
- Price

Ill wait till they make an emulator, my PC can run switch 2 games with ease. So im not missing anything out. I hope it sells like shit

 

[SpikeSlania]

I plan on getting it, but not going to fight the scalpers for pre-orders. I just signed up through the Nintendo website and when they e-mail that I can pre-order through them is when I will do it. Originally I was going to wait a year or so before getting a Switch 2 but watching the most recent direct changed my mind with that Mario Kart X Forza Horizon Hybrid aka Mario Kart World and Donkey Kong taking the role of the Hulk. Also knowing that docked will be able to display in 4K and me wanting to get into Xenoblade Chronicles X with their supported online functionality and me not having a Switch anymore just made the dots connect more.

• Some confusion over physical games vs the game keys

I thought it was pretty straight forward, but just scrolling through this thread and various news articles I see all of the misinformation being spread around. They ignore CD Project Red being proud that they're launching the full Cyberpunk 2077 game with it's dlc fully on a 64GB Switch 2 game card while looking at Bravely Default and Street Fighter 6 being on Game Key Cards thinking all Switch 2 games are on Game Key Cards. I know in the ideal world Game Key Cards shouldn't be a thing, but it's a step above buying Mega Man X Collection on Switch and getting half of the games on a cart and the other half on a one time use digital code that expires.

 

[Yankee]

I'd sooner buy a f*cking ALARMO than a Switch 2

 

[iamthemilkman]

Switch 2 is going to be a difficult generation for Nintendo. Will it sell out at launch? Yes. The Wii U did. I remember pictures of scalpers with trunks full of Wii U consoles thinking it'd be a hot item since it was the successor to the incredibly successful Wii. The same thing's going on here. Nintendo's coming off of their most successful console since the Wii so people are thinking that the Switch 2 being a massive success is a shoo-in. How could it not be? Like the Wii U, like the PS3, like the Xbox One, like the Sega Saturn, history shows that console manufacturers often blow it.

Given people already being unhappy with the pricing, the appearance of nickel & diming, as well as tariffs potentially making all of it even more expensive, I just sense trouble for Nintendo beyond the early adopters and scalpers. We'll see, I could be wrong, but it's not looking good long-term. That said, Nintendo could still save it if they get in troubled waters like they did with the 3DS early on. They refused to do that with the Wii U, though. They just let the Wii U die at full price, never dropping the price; I don't understand that level of stubbornness.

 

[Prism_Red]

Did you know that this is nothing new and was already on the first Switch, only now they've labelled it more clearly? On Switch, these are games that have the words ‘internet download required’ on the box. In them you have a cartridge, but the whole game(s) are not on it and you have to download them.

And just for information - Switch 2 preorders officially start on 9 April. Shops that already have preorders are simply trying to milk you out of your money to overpay.

Yeah I'm aware, the way Ninty worded it now sounds like every single game has mandatory download requirement. If I can't play it directly outta the box, I don't own it, I don't like that.

 

[Pikachun]

I'm going to buy a Switch 2, but only if it gets hacked so I can install pirated games. I don't want to pay 80-90 bucks to Nintendo for games. I'm greedy