Switch Are you buying the switch 2 ?

[NAthan88]

MK World & DK: Bananza are definitely on my radar of games i wanna play. But the high price game announcements are keeping me off for now, plus my policy for new console is at least 5 exclusive games i wanna play. Maybe next year.

 

[BunnyLain]

And play what?
Mario Kart?
Where's the launch line up? This console is just Nintendo just blunt asking their fan base to give them more money, if they stop supporting the switch after this, I think that might be a mistake.

 

[amjoshuaf]

I was under the impression there are Switch 2 games that are fully on the cartridge. If they're all key cartridges (or whatever it's called) I'm out for sure. I've got more than enough games on my computer now to last me til doomsday anyway, so whatever. If I somehow become fabulously wealthy, maybe my story will change. But I mean, Mario Kart World doesn't seem like much more than Mario Kart 8, which isn't necessarily Nintendo's fault because I honestly wonder where you can go after 8. An open world kart game seems inherently ridiculous to me. Although, reading in here that Spike is a playable character does give me the warm and fuzzies, I'm not going to lie. Mecha Koopa as playable character perhaps?

 

[happymasksalesman]

Pricing is a little too high for the moment, might buy it in a year or two when it'll have more games and more reasonable prices.

I know some one bought dark souls when it have offers. I think if they dont add anything for people buy first. Better idea is wait till Christmas and good offers.

 

[bosefff]

I saved up money as soon as I heard about the announcement so it'll be a day one purchase for me. I am mainly excited about being able to play older games with better framerates and graphics, as my PC isn't really great to run emulators for those games.

If I didn't have the money already I would definitely wait until Switch 1 support is over though, but seeing as how tech might be getting more expensive I think it is my best move to buy it now just because I know I will own it at some point.

The games don't look great so far. That is just because every game announced for 3rd party has been games I have played religiously for years and I am burnt out from them. I hoped for a 'Breath of the Wild' type launch title which would make the system worth it but there isn't one yet. Donkey Kong looks like fun but for $70 I will have to wait awhile to afford it. The Mario Kart bundle is really great value IMO, paying $50 for a game that'll last nearly a decade is a good purchase. Maybe I will get Hades 2 when that releases?

I am actually weirdly interested by the online features, I think it'll be a fun way to talk to my little brother when we play games together as I live far away.

It would be cool to have lots of friends livestreaming at the same time but I don't have any gamer friends so I will never know.

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[happymasksalesman]

I saved up money as soon as I heard about the announcement so it'll be a day one purchase for me. I am mainly excited about being able to play older games with better framerates and graphics, as my PC isn't really great to run emulators for those games.

If I didn't have the money already I would definitely wait until Switch 1 support is over though, but seeing as how tech might be getting more expensive I think it is my best move to buy it now just because I know I will own it at some point.

The games don't look great so far. That is just because every game announced for 3rd party has been games I have played religiously for years and I am burnt out from them. I hoped for a 'Breath of the Wild' type launch title which would make the system worth it but there isn't one yet. Donkey Kong looks like fun but for $70 I will have to wait awhile to afford it. The Mario Kart bundle is really great value IMO, paying $50 for a game that'll last nearly a decade is a good purchase. Maybe I will get Hades 2 when that releases?

I am actually weirdly interested by the online features, I think it'll be a fun way to talk to my little brother when we play games together as I live far away.

It would be cool to have lots of friends livestreaming at the same time but I don't have any gamer friends so I will never know.

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What kind of old game you want to play? I played a lot of them in old simple pentuim 4!

 

[longestseason]

No, at least not in the next few years, but it depends on the exclusives and if the prices drop or not. A Steam Deck is more worthwhile because I already have a huge library of games on PC, so I might go with that or wait for the next Steam Deck (I hope Switch 2 emulation will be a thing by then).

 

[moonbits]

No, at least not in the next few years, but it depends on the exclusives and if the prices drop or not. A Steam Deck is more worthwhile because I already have a huge library of games on PC, so I might go with that or wait for the next Steam Deck (I hope Switch 2 emulation will be a thing by then).

Yeah I'm waiting on a Steam Deck 2 instead.

 

[DanCalibur]

Nintendo is very confident, they are shipping around 8 million units for the release date with predictions to double that by Christmas

 

[bosefff]

What kind of old game you want to play? I played a lot of them in old simple pentuim 4!

It isn't about running it so much as running it well for me. I own a v1 Switch which is great for stuff like Breath of the Wild, but obviously has graphical shortcomings. My PC would be able to run it but at the same sort of graphics, so it isn't great. Switch 2 seems interesting because they claim those games can get a 4k 60fps upgrade, which if it is true would be really cool to me.

I might rethink the purchase now that the preorders have been delayed for USA though.
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Wait what? Am I missing something? I thought they said you can play all your Switch games on Switch 2. At least the exclusives. You just have to pay the extra 20 to upgrade them to 120fps 4K. Please tell me that all my old games are playable...

There is already a list of games who dont run or have trouble running on switch 2, compatibility is not on hardware level but via some emulation, so i bet not all game will be perfectly compatible
But the main ones will certainly be

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Here's Every Nintendo Switch Game With Compatibility Issues on Nintendo Switch 2 - IGN

In lists published to the official Nintendo website, the company has revealed which OG Switch games have "start up issues" on Nintendo Switch 2, and which games can start up but have "some in-game compatibility issues."

www.ign.com

 

[CaptainToad]

Nope, not buying. Can't afford it even if I wanted to. I'm learning about myself that I don't actually like keeping up with games. I don't like checking for updates, or checking if a game port is actually a good one. I don't like mentally guilting myself to go back to play recent DLC for a game I finished 6-18 months ago because I can't motivate myself otherwise. I don't like the hardware failures (stick drift on my XB1 and Joycons is such a stress to deal with). So I don't even want to bother with modern PC gaming or PS5/Xbox either at this point. Oh, also, digital games and install sizes either: either I constantly delete, shuffle, and reinstall games or I spend a massive premium on storage.

Nintendo was a hold-out to most of my annoyances to modern gaming, with the Switch being mostly good on that front. But it was clearly a turning point for Nintendo hardware-wise. I had to buy a grip to make playing it actually comfortable as a portable-only player. Had to buy a big SD card that corrupted at one point. Had to install aftermarket hall effect sticks to get rid of the drift. Some of the ports aren't that good. Some of the games aren't even on the cartridges, so buying physical versions isn't necessarily better. Games are increasingly being released incomplete at launch (Nintendo Sports game especially) and then get barely updated and then dropped. And Nintendo basically never lowered the prices on things so the exclusive games are still expensive as well as the console. Boring UI, which I was fine with initially but going back to 3DS and Wii U is so much cozier and pleasant for me. Paid online services (refuse to pay them).

Switch 2 seems like it might be worse on all of these fronts, so I'm done for now. Maybe it'll get hacked and get a price drop and some day 5+ years in the future I'll come back to it. Maybe the world won't be a nightmare too and I'll complete a lot of my backlog so I won't feel guilty about it too.

 

[Egg (McMuffin) Man]

If I can, yes. The pre-order lottery opened up here yesterday and I was able to enter. I'll find out whether or not I get a pre-order when the results come back on the 24th. So, if I'm lucky, I'll buy one and have it on launch day. Otherwise I'll have to enter lotteries at other stores. I really hope that it doesn't take me a year to find one like the original Switch.

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compatibility is not on hardware level but via some emulation

Not quite, it's halfway in-between. They're using a compatability layer.

 

[RetroCasual]

Now in a colder way than the in official presentation day, I have no doubts that this console will be a Switch XL v1.5.
I wouldn't call it "Switch 2" because it's still and intergenerational console within the full HD and 4K image standards. Fortunately we finally got the voice-chat, video-chat (regrettable at 10 fps), achievements and graphics upgrades to previous titles, but I still miss an analog trigger in the joycons to play more serious racing games than Mario Kart.
Don't misunderstand me, I still think that the new console is gonna be worth the purchase, for sure, there is nothing similar available with such power, but here come the main doubts to me: the prices.
Why is there a Japanese region exclusive version of Switch 2 that will cost around 300 bucks? Are the non-japanese Nintendo fans a bunch of assholes that don't deserve a fair deal too?
Why everything (console, games, accessories, etc) are 20-30 bucks cheaper than in the rest of the sites when you pre-order them through Amazon France?
Would we be paying all this money to the worth ones or maybe we'd be feeding a bunch of leeches that will always speculate with Nintendo things if we don't stop them?
Just as I've said in my first post, I'll need much more info and maybe some rectifications to be sure that I won't repent myself from a day one purchase...

 

[Egg (McMuffin) Man]

Why is there a Japanese region exclusive version of Switch 2 that will cost around 300 bucks?

It's priced at 50,000 yen. When you live in Japan and are paid in yen, 50,000 yen feels like $500. If they were to price it the same as the West (which they are doing for the multilingual version) it would be 70,000 yen which feels like $700 and nobody is going to buy it for that much money.

Yes 50,000 yen is around $343 USD, but it's not really a "discount" unless you're living in Japan and somehow being paid in USD.

This is because the yen is currently weak. Nintendo knows that the yen is on a path of recovery and that the "discount" on hardware is temporarily. They probably evaluated the decision and decided that strong software sales in Japan could make up for the temporary losses while the yen recovers. In the meantime, software is more expensive in Japan. Everyone in the west is complaining about $80 for Mario Kart, meanwhile it's $100 in Japan for the physical copy. If the average switch owner in Japan buys a lot of games than the higher software prices will make up for the loss on hardware even before the yen recovers.

Would you rather pay $100 for games (very normal in Japan, but new for first party Nintendo games), or pay $100 extra on hardware one time?

 

[RetroCasual]

Would you rather pay $100 for games (very normal in Japan, but new for first party Nintendo games), or pay $100 extra on hardware one time?

Being totally honest, none incompleted game is worth 100 bucks to me.
If we talk about a game like Mario Kart, which is supposed that it's gonna last a few years at least, receiving more tracks, characters and/or functions, season events, etc. I could make an exception. But do you really know if all these supposed updates/expansions will be added for free to the current customers? Or maybe the f***ing full version of Mario Kart World is gonna cost us around 150-200 bucks at the end? I can only beg Nintendo to reconsiderate that most of their followers and customers are kids/guys/gals that can't even pay 60 bucks for a new game... They have crossed a dangerous red line.

And now talking about the hardware, don't you think that 340 to 470 bucks is more than a considerable gap to pay to an intelligent customer?
I could even say that 440 to 470 bucks is something important to think about (Amazon France vs. the rest of the world or right prices vs. speculation?)...

 

[Stare best girl]

Hmmm... nah, I would prefer get a Switch 1 with ''magic''

 

[Fenir]

Do NOT buy.

 

[JimmyTT]

Heard it is US$80 for digital games and US$90 for physical ones. With this price, I can play much many more other great games.

For US, there will be additional 24% tariff which postpone the pre-sale in US. Can't imagine the sales will be....

 

[Egg (McMuffin) Man]

receiving more tracks, characters and/or functions, season events, etc. I could make an exception. But do you really know if all these supposed updates/expansions will be added for free to the current customers?

Did they promise that? I didn't watch the treehouse or anything but I was under the impression that this is the game. If anything else comes later it's a bonus. That's always how it's been with Nintendo, look at the latest Animal Crossing for example. It was a full and complete game, but people wanted more content so we got more stuff later, but it was already a complete game before that. It's not like with other companies where you have to pay $70 for the base game, plus $30 for the rest of the story that they cut off (which releases on the same day as the base game, kek), plus a few dollars for each individual cosmetic item etc. Fuck that.

Or maybe the f***ing full version of Mario Kart World is gonna cost us around 150-200 bucks at the end?

It's $80. $50 if you get the bundle.

I can only beg Nintendo to reconsiderate that most of their followers and customers are kids/guys/gals that can't even pay 60 bucks for a new game...

If you can't afford to buy something that isn't essential than don't buy it. Otherwise save up for it. This applies to anything, not just video games.

don't you think that 340 to 470 bucks is more than a considerable gap to pay to an intelligent customer?

Inflation is a bitch. If you adjust for inflation, the Switch 2 is $345 in 2017, which is just barely more than the original Switch. The problem here isn't actually the price of the console - it's barely more than the original (and the games are the same price as 2017 if you adjust for inflation), the problem is that inflation in your country has gotten so out of hand and that wages haven't kept up with inflation. As a result, people on the lowest end are struggling harder than they were just a few years ago and have less money to spend on toys. This is the group who is complaining about the price. And it seems that most people think that the console is reasonably priced but the games aren't.

Heard it is US$80 for digital games and US$90 for physical ones

Nah that's not right. It's $70 for physical games, $60 for digital games. The only $80 game is Mario Kart, but it's $50 if you get the bundle. There are no $90 games.

 

[BunnyLain]

There are no $90 games.

 

[Edward]

Definitely not after the reveal. So far, I've skipped the PS5 and waited for the Switch 2. And a PS5 seems to make more sense to me now.

 

[DanCalibur]

Did they promise that? I didn't watch the treehouse or anything but I was under the impression that this is the game. If anything else comes later it's a bonus. That's always how it's been with Nintendo, look at the latest Animal Crossing for example. It was a full and complete game, but people wanted more content so we got more stuff later, but it was already a complete game before that. It's not like with other companies where you have to pay $70 for the base game, plus $30 for the rest of the story that they cut off (which releases on the same day as the base game, kek), plus a few dollars for each individual cosmetic item etc. Fuck that.

It's $80. $50 if you get the bundle.

If you can't afford to buy something that isn't essential than don't buy it. Otherwise save up for it. This applies to anything, not just video games.

Inflation is a bitch. If you adjust for inflation, the Switch 2 is $345 in 2017, which is just barely more than the original Switch. The problem here isn't actually the price of the console - it's barely more than the original (and the games are the same price as 2017 if you adjust for inflation), the problem is that inflation in your country has gotten so out of hand and that wages haven't kept up with inflation. As a result, people on the lowest end are struggling harder than they were just a few years ago and have less money to spend on toys. This is the group who is complaining about the price. And it seems that most people think that the console is reasonably priced but the games aren't.

Nah that's not right. It's $70 for physical games, $60 for digital games. The only $80 game is Mario Kart, but it's $50 if you get the bundle. There are no $90 games.

Yeah, inflation is the perfect crime, the government devalues currency and someone else takes the blame. It's quite a beautiful scam if you think about it.

 

[rugal]

i have always like nintendo games but the new switch at the moment do not have any game that interest me so its not worth it i just keep using the original switch

 

[maciintosh]

There's certainly a bit more nuance to it than just "high price bad, Nintendo greedy," but the honestly outlandish pricing of the games and the console itself immediately killed all excitement I had for the console. 70+ US dollars is too much for a video game, hands down. Mario Kart World and Donkey Kong Bananza don't interest me much, and those are the only "big" titles they've announced, as far as I know. Rhythm Heaven Groove looks interesting, but there's always an infinite amount of rhythm games to play anyways. I'm not too concerned with missing out on it. News for Deltarune and Hollow Knight Silksong is nice (even if for Silksong, it's just a vague release date announcement thrown in the middle of the indie game filler segments that are in a lot of Nintendo Directs), but I could just... play those on my PC? I'm not paying around $500 for a console where the games on it that interest me the most at the moment are indie games that are certainly going to be available on Steam anyways.