According to recently polled Japanese game developers, 100% of them are currently using Gen AI

See, this is what I mean.
You referring to them as luddites and emotional artists is just smearing shit on the wall.
Instead of an actual back and forth with exchanging of ideas and view points it becomes a back and forth of insults and leads to nowhere.

And yes, that'd also mean machine translated games will also be moderated, just like everything on the site, that's what the mods do.
I'm just calling a spade a spade. I wasn't adressing anyone personally when I talked about economy 101.
You call them "failed artist" really doesn't help with your posts. Considering they do this as a hobby and not for trade old chap.
Okay so then they shouldn't be pearl clutching at all, their reactions are even sadder now.
 
I'm just calling a spade a spade. I wasn't adressing anyone personally when I talked about economy 101.

Okay so then they shouldn't be pearl clutching at all, their reactions are even sadder now.
Idk targetting the users here even if its not one person is still a rule breaker. I do love how you think this will just replace actual artist when you need actual artist to fix the issues ai has. You can't just ask it and have it solve all its problems. Point taken to Steam games with Ai use still needed someone to fix its errors like anatomy and lighting. Something ai cant possibly fix.

Reminds me of that news article of some champ asking ai instead of his lawyer and losing his company in the process. Lol
 
True Insults will lead to nowhere.
Also it does not help our side in the slightest.
Just to be clear, I'm not on anyone's side.
I could care less if AI became abandoned and obsolete the very next day.
Just as I could care less if several other companies shut down because of AI.

I'm just calling a spade a spade. I wasn't adressing anyone personally when I talked about economy 101.

Okay so then they shouldn't be pearl clutching at all, their reactions are even sadder now.
No, what you're doing is in bad faith.
Those people should just ignore your post and account because talking goes nowhere, but they haven't, but continuing to throw names really doesn't solve anything.
Again this is just poisoning discusion.
 
Idk targetting the users here even if its not one person is still a rule breaker. I do love how you think this will just replace actual artist when you need actual artist to fix the issues ai has. You can't just ask it and have it solve all its problems. Point taken to Steam games with Ai use still needed someone to fix its errors like anatomy and lighting. Something ai cant possibly fix.

Reminds me of that news article of some champ asking ai instead of his lawyer and losing his company in the process. Lol
Sure I agree, I never said Ai will replace all artists just the bad and mediocre ones.

And I wasn't targetting anyone before that "artist" adressed me personally.
 
Just to be clear, I'm not on anyone's side.
I could care less if AI became abandoned and obsolete the very next day.
Just as I could care less if several other companies shut down because of AI.
Its not about being on any side since it can be applied to every side.
 
No, what you're doing is in bad faith.
Those people should just ignore your post and account because talking goes nowhere, but they haven't, but continuing to throw names really doesn't solve anything.
Again this is just poisoning discusion.
Yeah no, talking about Ai will just trigger these people. They're extremists that want to ban anything Ai.

But they don't seem to understand they lost, hard. So the real crux of Ai discussion should be how we can live with it because it's not going away.

What is considered bad or medicore in your eyes. Cause art is subjective and saying it like that makes you ignorant
The market will decide that like I said many times. If an artist can't compete anymore and nobody is willing to pay then the market decided his/her art wasn't that valuable. And I'm talking about artists who do this for a living of course, it's of no concern to hobby artists.
 
What is considered bad or medicore in your eyes. Cause art is subjective and saying it like that makes you ignorant
To a Degree yes but considering there a people who call a banana on a wall art..well

those would be exceptions I would say.

Hello Kitty Art GIF
 
But they don't seem to understand they lost, hard. So the real crux of Ai discussion should be how we can live with it because it's not going away.
See that's more constructive, if responses can stay on point and on topic then these threads wouldn't be too much of a shit show.
 
Yeah no, talking about Ai will just trigger these people. They're extremists that want to ban anything Ai.

But they don't seem to understand they lost, hard. So the real crux of Ai discussion should be how we can live with it because it's not going away.


The market will decide that like I said many times. If an artist can't compete anymore and nobody is willing to pay then the market decided his/her art wasn't that valuable. And I'm talking about artists who do this for a living of course, it's of no concern to hobby artists.
You still havent answered my question on what you considered bad or medicore. Im not talking about a market. Im talking about you. In the industry there is no such thing as a "bad artist" like you said yourself. Unless you are talking about work performance like not clocking in to work and that goes for any industry or job.

To a Degree yes but considering there a people who call a banana on a wall art..well

those would be exceptions I would say.

Hello Kitty Art GIF
Its still art regardless, even if you dont agree.
 
You still havent answered my question on what you considered bad or medicore. Im not talking about a market. Im talking about you. In the industry there is no such thing as a "bad artist" like you said yourself. Unless you are talking about work performance like not clocking in to work and that goes for any industry or job.


Its still art regardless, even if you dont agree.
I respectfully disagree a Banana clued to a wall is not Art its a waste of food and a show of decadens.
 
Mindless yapping
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this isn't funny anymore. if you're just gonna flood the thread with insults, you might as well stop posting because you're not gonna change anyones mind. All you're doing right now is just making an ass out of yourself
 
For you but for others its art
And others think killing and rape is okay does also not make them right.

We are not fucking primates at least I think so and sorry but people who consider a Banana clued to a wall art are idiots.
 
And others think killing and rape is okay does also not make them right.

We are not fucking primates at least I think so and sorry but people who consider a Banana clued to a wall art are idiots.
That is such a wild jump from our discussion, the mental gymnastics for such a thing rivals that of Olympic games.
 
That is such a wild jump from our discussion, the mental gymnastics for such a thing rivals that of Olympic games.
Its a wild jump but I am not wrong.
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tell me RD where did this banana art touched you 😭 🙏
It touched me with the waste of food while children starve for such a stupid thing,but I guess morals are for the toilet now.
 
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this isn't funny anymore. if you're just gonna flood the thread with insults, you might as well stop posting because you're not gonna change anyones mind. All you're doing right now is just making an ass out of yourself
I noticed he insulted fellow hobbyists on this very thread and suddenly he thinks he is the victim here. The insults isnt really helping his case but its commendable that he doubles down on it.
 
You still havent answered my question on what you considered bad or medicore. Im not talking about a market. Im talking about you. In the industry there is no such thing as a "bad artist" like you said yourself. Unless you are talking about work performance like not clocking in to work and that goes for any industry or job.
Sure I do agree with you, art is subjective but like I said it's a different matter when an artist tries to make a living from art, enough people have to like it/be willing to pay for it.

But for me something like Jackson Pollock is bad art, yet the market values it immensely.
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this isn't funny anymore. if you're just gonna flood the thread with insults, you might as well stop posting because you're not gonna change anyones mind. All you're doing right now is just making an ass out of yourself
This just confirms what I said, extremists that just hate anything Ai and want to kill the discussion by derailing and posting weak rage bait.
 
You call them "failed artist" really doesn't help with your posts. Considering they do this as a hobby and not for trade old chap.
If this is about us, we aren't hobbyists. But thanks for your reasonable perspective.
Fight me instead!
We'll consider it, but would you permit us to pick up the gauntlet @Ken190d failed to carry? We believe his position deserves fair representation, and we are familiar enough with economic theory to articulate it on his behalf.
 
Germans joking about walls, your humour is robust and lively, we admire that.
Thanks but sure a American wants to go the Wall angle with me ?
4Th Of July Deal With It GIF by Rover.com

I am one myself but I need a comeback so that one has to do.

Anyhow I sometimes build walls around me
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and people say we Germans have no Humor which is not true our Jokes
are just to efficient for most people to understand.
 
Sure I do agree with you, art is subjective but like I said it's a different matter when an artist tries to make a living from art, enough people have to like it/be willing to pay for it.

But for me something like Jackson Pollock is bad art, yet the market values it immensely.
I extremely doubt ai will replace artist in the comic, manga or nsfw portion. People are interesting in the artstyle and stories, something Ai cant replicate. Maybe in advertisments like print shops but they also need artist to scale and edit the process out.
So saying it removes "mediocre artist" isnt really helping.
This just confirms what I said, extremists that just hate anything Ai and want to kill the discussion by derailing and posting weak rage bait.
Idk chap couple posts back you were shitting on artist here. Not helping
 

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