According to recently polled Japanese game developers, 100% of them are currently using Gen AI

[Clippy]

 

[Nebulon_Galaxy]

I just wait for the next AI thread to de rail like this one

The mods should at least delete them on site.

 

[Retro Doomer]

The mods should at least delete them on site.

But where would be the fun it that one.
Give the kids some space to play around in.

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[Nebulon_Galaxy]

But where would be the fun it that one.
Give the kids some space to play around in.

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There is a difference between having fun and bashing others. Especially the way he was bashing users on this site. He won't last long here with that attitude. Can't wait for the crash out. You should know how these things turn out.

 

[Retro Doomer]

There is a difference between having fun and bashing others. Especially the way he was bashing users on this site. He won't last long here with that attitude. Can't wait for the crash out. You should know how these things turn out.

Yeah I seen that happen to many times already.

It does not have to feel like a early Xbox game lobby.

 

[WeAreAmalia]

@Ken190d's conception of art is so limited that he doesn't recognise it when it's laid out before him. He hears "art" and can imagine only pictures, the German idealists often mocked the feeble minded by calling them "picture thinkers".

So, for the sake of our picture thinker friend, we will make every concession. It is the duty of the wise to guide the unfortunate through the maze of life.
Ken, we are multidisciplinary artists. We compose music, paint, and write (and that last talent is our specialty). So whether we wanted to share our art with you or not, we could not help but bleed out some of our brilliance. And perhaps you will complain that messages on a forum have no artistic value, and that these could never be sold and therefore we are "failed artists". But you are still appraising art as if it was a product (because you are a philistine, but we'll let that slide, we have charitable hearts). So what actually is an artist, if not a producer of sellable artistic products? An artist is a bearer of a certain disposition, it is someone who can perceive life in a beautiful and original way.

When you look upon the world and see a carnival of fools, and you congratulate yourself for your small victories, and you sneer at the sentimental and feel proud of your material success, you are actively perpetuating an oafish mentality. If our world is a vulgar and hateful place, it because people such as you populate it. But we do not blame you, we even love you, we see that you were not strong enough to resist the drift of modern life. Let us help you.

My sister and I look upon life with love, even souls such as yours are worthy of happiness. The dreams you had in childhood can survive if you let them, you don't have to be broken in half for the sake of maturity.
You yourself are an artist, though we aren't cruel enough to call you a failed one. So long as you draw breath you might still attain the clear vision (we actually believe everyone becomes an artist again, in the moment of their death). We would like for you to discover it before then, we believe in you.
Will you let us help you?

 

[High Voltage]

What a shocker.

 

[Ken190d]

@Ken190d's conception of art is so limited that he doesn't recognise it when it's laid out before him. He hears "art" and can imagine only pictures, the German idealists often mocked the feeble minded by calling them "picture thinkers".

So, for the sake of our picture thinker friend, we will make every concession. It is the duty of the wise to guide the unfortunate through the maze of life.
Ken, we are multidisciplinary artists. We compose music, paint, and write (and that last talent is our specialty). So whether we wanted to share our art with you or not, we could not help but bleed out some of our brilliance. And perhaps you will complain that messages on a forum have no artistic value, and that these could never be sold and therefore we are "failed artists". But you are still appraising art as if it was a product (because you are a philistine, but we'll let that slide, we have charitable hearts). So what actually is an artist, if not a producer of sellable artistic products? An artist is a bearer of a certain disposition, it is someone who can perceive life in a beautiful and original way.

When you look upon the world and see a carnival of fools, and you congratulate yourself for your small victories, and you sneer at the sentimental and feel proud of your material success, you are actively perpetuating an oafish mentality. If our world is a vulgar and hateful place, it because people such as you populate it. But we do not blame you, we even love you, we see that you were not strong enough to resist the drift of modern life. Let us help you.

My sister and I look upon life with love, even souls such as yours are worthy of happiness. The dreams you had in childhood can survive if you let them, you don't have to be broken in half for the sake of maturity.
You yourself are an artist, though we aren't cruel enough to call you a failed one. So long as you draw breath you might still attain the clear vision (we actually believe everyone becomes an artist again, in the moment of their death). We would like for you to discover it before then, we believe in you.
Will you let us help you?

Did Ai write this post?

 

[Retro Doomer]

 

[Heidegger of Shinra]

Did Ai write this post?

Wow, that really showed them...

 

[Retro Doomer]

Wow, that really showed them...
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Who the poster or the Ai
sorry could not ressist.

 

[WeAreAmalia]

Did Ai write this post?

For once, we are at a loss for words.

 

[Retro Doomer]

What are your bets how long till this thread gets locked

 

[WeAreAmalia]

What are your bets how long till this thread gets locked

We'd wager it's coming soon, but we won't be participating any longer. We believe in the fecundity of conflict, but for that we'd need a less impotent foe.

 

[Retro Doomer]

We'd wager it's coming soon, but we won't be participating any longer. We believe in the fecundity of conflict, but for that we'd need a less impotent foe.

Where is chat gpt when you need it lol.

But seriously the thread goes very much of topic.
Whe need to gp back to the OPs topic.

 

[Heidegger of Shinra]

but for that we'd need a less impotent foe.

Fight me instead!

 

[WeAreAmalia]

But seriously the thread goes very much of topic.
Whe need to gp back to the OPs topic.

It seems AI is a difficult topic to constrain, it tends to spiral out and swallow everything... kind of like AI.

 

[Retro Doomer]

Fight me instead!
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Could be interesting having someone who dislikes Ai defend Ai.

Interesting concept

can't miss that show.

 

[Ken190d]

So back on topic now after the typical luddite crashout.

“Roughly Nine Out of Ten” Game Devs Are Already Using AI, They’re Just Not Telling Players, Claims Google Cloud Games’ Boss​

https://twitter.com/x/status/2047342462000066738

You can't stop this train.

 

[DayBreak_Illusion]

It seems AI is a difficult topic to constrain, it tends to spiral out and swallow everything... kind of like AI.

More or less you are going against someone who refuses to have any meaningful discussion, judging from these posts.

 

[extermist]

This is why I believe that AI discussion should be removed from the site.

I'm someone who uses AI and can see both the positives and negatives of this technology.
That said, there are users who are vocally against anything to do with AI, some for good reasons others just sound petty.
Then you have people who will defend AI, some in good faith others just to talk down with a flawed sense of grandure.

Look, either way you slice it, actual discussion and discourse cannot happen in this kind of environment, too much emotions and confirmation bias.

Better to not have AI threads allowed on the site rather than to let conversations go to waste.

 

[Ken190d]

This is why I believe that AI discussion should be removed from the site.

I'm someone who uses AI and can see both the positives and negatives of this technology.
That said, there are users who are vocally against anything to do with AI, some for good reasons others just sound petty.
Then you have people who will defend AI, some in good faith others just to talk down with a flawed sense of grandure.

Look, either way you slice it, actual discussion and discourse cannot happen in this kind of environment, too much emotions and confirmation bias.

Better to not have AI threads allowed on the site rather than to let conversations go to waste.

I mean it's the ""artists"" that become emotional when someone says they aren't special snow flakes immune to basic economic reality of supply and demand like every other sector in the economy.

It's also luddites seething and crying whenever a new machine translated game gets posted. So if you want to ban Ai discussions then the luddite crying under every machine translated game should be moderated too.

 

[extermist]

I mean it's the ""artists"" that become emotional when someone says they aren't special snow flakes immune to basic economic reality of supply and demand like every other sector in the economy.

It's also luddites seething and crying whenever a new machine translated game gets posted. So if you want to ban Ai discussions then the luddite crying under every machine translated game should be moderated too.

See, this is what I mean.
You referring to them as luddites and emotional artists is just smearing shit on the wall.
Instead of an actual back and forth with exchanging of ideas and view points it becomes a back and forth of insults and leads to nowhere.

And yes, that'd also mean machine translated games will also be moderated, just like everything on the site, that's what the mods do.

 

[Retro Doomer]

See, this is what I mean.
You referring to them as luddites and emotional artists is just smearing shit on the wall.
Instead of an actual back and forth with exchanging of ideas and view points it becomes a back and forth of insults and leads to nowhere.

And yes, that'd also mean machine translated games will also be moderated, just like everything on the site, that's what the mods do.

True Insults will lead to nowhere.
Also it does not help our side in the slightest.

 

[DayBreak_Illusion]

I mean it's the ""artists"" that become emotional when someone says they aren't special snow flakes immune to basic economic reality of supply and demand like every other sector in the economy.

It's also luddites seething and crying whenever a new machine translated game gets posted. So if you want to ban Ai discussions then the luddite crying under every machine translated game should be moderated too.

You call them "failed artist" really doesn't help with your posts. Considering they do this as a hobby and not for trade old chap.