Super Mario Thread

[Deleted member 121503]

I see, I guess you could say that it makes us wonder

Hahahah, good one

 

[Ikagura]

Yeah, I understand, they reused the same formula for like almost 20 years after NSMB first released and it got a bit stale. Glad they changed up with Wonder.

I think DS and Wii were fine but I legitimately though that Super Mario 3D Land and World both basically replaced NSMB as it was a new yet similar formula.

In fact 3D Land was to me the 3rd NSMB game until they announced 2 and U. They even had the whole "collect 3 giant coins to unlock stuff/go further" thing that NSMB was about.

It definitely got old real quick, especially when the NSMB Wii released. They didn't change a lot, other than giving them a prettier look and some new power ups

Wonder is goated though

NSMB Wii was because the return of Mario couldn't just be in handhelds (although usually handheld was the last bastion of 2D games back when home console had little to no 2D around the late PSX and PS2 era) and having 4 players at the same time on screen was a new gimmick.

Only big downside is that playing the game in solo basically meant having huge empty spaces built with 4 players in mind.

In fact NSMB DS was planned to have two players at the same time in coop but ultimately got relegated to versus multiplayer (which is considered as one of the best mode in any mainline Mario game). The game had some unique gimmicks and sections made for a strictly single player game which is why it felt a bit duller in Wii.

I totally understand the nostalgia regarding Wii which was fairly more popular than DS but this being the main base for U and 2 when these could've had more differences just wasn't great.

This video basically sums it well despite how the rest of the series kinda retroactively made people's perception of the first game less good.

As for Wonders I'm surprised they didn't make an update or sequel to it but I'd love to see a Wonders style game set in the actual Mushroom Kingdom.

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I've found some old videos talking about NSMB DS circa 2005

 

[Deleted member 121503]

I think DS and Wii were fine but I legitimately though that Super Mario 3D Land and World both basically replaced NSMB as it was a new yet similar formula.

In fact 3D Land was to me the 3rd NSMB game until they announced 2 and U. They even had the whole "collect 3 giant coins to unlock stuff/go further" thing that NSMB was about.

Hmm, makes sense. I always viewed them more as separate things to the NSMB series games, but it is true they were more successful than New Super Mario Bros U.

 

[Darklink]

I just finished replaying Bowser's Fury. That was a fun little time. Took me only two decent play sessions to 100% it.

 

[Ikagura]

Hmm, makes sense. I always viewed them more as separate things to the NSMB series games, but it is true they were more successful than New Super Mario Bros U.

Yep.

I would still like to see a third game in that style.

 

[Deleted member 121503]

Yep.

I would still like to see a third game in that style.

Yeah, me too, they're really fun games.

 

[DunkeyKong]

I think DS and Wii were fine but I legitimately though that Super Mario 3D Land and World both basically replaced NSMB as it was a new yet similar formula.

In fact 3D Land was to me the 3rd NSMB game until they announced 2 and U. They even had the whole "collect 3 giant coins to unlock stuff/go further" thing that NSMB was about.


NSMB Wii was because the return of Mario couldn't just be in handhelds (although usually handheld was the last bastion of 2D games back when home console had little to no 2D around the late PSX and PS2 era) and having 4 players at the same time on screen was a new gimmick.

Only big downside is that playing the game in solo basically meant having huge empty spaces built with 4 players in mind.

In fact NSMB DS was planned to have two players at the same time in coop but ultimately got relegated to versus multiplayer (which is considered as one of the best mode in any mainline Mario game). The game had some unique gimmicks and sections made for a strictly single player game which is why it felt a bit duller in Wii.

I totally understand the nostalgia regarding Wii which was fairly more popular than DS but this being the main base for U and 2 when these could've had more differences just wasn't great.

This video basically sums it well despite how the rest of the series kinda retroactively made people's perception of the first game less good.

As for Wonders I'm surprised they didn't make an update or sequel to it but I'd love to see a Wonders style game set in the actual Mushroom Kingdom.

Post automatically merged: Feb 13, 2025

I've found some old videos talking about NSMB DS circa 2005

Yeah the gimmicks and all that space definitely makes it feel dull and empty. I think the first one is just that good for an handheld and they're having a hard time to adapt it as a main console game

 

[Nidoking's iconNidoking]

I've loved Mario since I started gaming waaay back. I got the most attached to SMB2, something about the quirkiness and unique atmosphere really appealed to me, and I loved being able to pick different characters. SMB3 is just a phenomenal game and I also had endless fun with that. Had I owned a SNES, my most played of the 2D era would have easily been SMW, since whenever I did get to play it I absolutely loved it... same goes for Yoshi's Island. As a side note, Yoshi's Story is really fun too... just super short and almost frustratingly easy.

Super Mario 64, though... that's where it really became special. It probably helps that the Nintendo 64 is so overwhelmingly my favorite gaming console with my favorite gaming memories, but everything about SM64 is just fantastic.

That said, my favorite in the series is Sunshine. I know that's not an overly popular opinion, but that game is pure heaven to me.

 

[OmegaPunch's iconOmegaPunch]

So far, the only Mario games I've are the spinoffs (Mario And Luigi, Super Mario RPG, Mario Kart) but I wanna try out the mainline games to see if they're fun.

 

[Ikagura]

I've loved Mario since I started gaming waaay back. I got the most attached to SMB2, something about the quirkiness and unique atmosphere really appealed to me, and I loved being able to pick different characters.

Even if it's officially not a Mario game in mind I love it since the GBA version.

In a way I wish they could bring back Subcon and Wart again. I was glad to hear the character select in 3D World and I'm always happy to see Ninjis back.

Somehow Shyguys are nowadays relegated to Yoshi's Island and party games (like Birdo who's barely relevant in the mainline games).

Is that me or characters like Wario, Birdo, Daisy and others are now for party/karting games and almost ignored in the mainline Mario series? I know Wario was in 64 DS but that was like 20 years ago.

I wish we got a new 3D Yoshi and Wario game...

That said, my favorite in the series is Sunshine. I know that's not an overly popular opinion, but that game is pure heaven to me.

Sunshine deserved a fully fledged remake that corrected the issues with it.

I feel that Wonders will finally bring back non-Mushroom Kingdom regions to the franchise (I don't really count Galaxy 1&2 nor New Donk City since it was Arcade Donkey Kong's region).

 

[Yousef]

Stickied.

 

[Ikagura]

I'll always defend the first NSMB despite the bad reputation the New series got over the decades

And let's hope Doki Doki Panic and SMB2 USA will get some sort of revival in the future of the franchise

 

[Yousef]

I'll always defend the first NSMB despite the bad reputation the New series got over the decades
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It’s the one I hear the most good things about.
I’m not a Mario fan though so I’m no authority.

 

[TamagotchiTamaHero24's iconTamagotchiTamaHero24]

WAHOOO!!!

Whenever I feel like I need a comfort game, I always run to Super Mario Bros., Super Mario 64, and one of the Mario Karts. But I’m always eager to try games I never have before!

Currently playing Super Paper Mario on Wii! Slowly, but it’s a fun game! Loaned to me by my beloved partner~

I’ve also been thinking of doing a more modern playthrough of Super Mario Sunshine. I beat the game, but over a period of YEARS and that was when I was a kid. I’ve also been wanting to play NSMB Wii, but it’s so squished on my CRT! Niche collector problems, I’m sure.

 

[trickybus]

I’ve also been thinking of doing a more modern playthrough of Super Mario Sunshine.

I'd say got for it! I didn't get to play it as a kid but it's bringing me unexpected amounts of joy as an adult. And the music is fire

 

[OmegaPunch's iconOmegaPunch]

WAHOOO!!!

Whenever I feel like I need a comfort game, I always run to Super Mario Bros., Super Mario 64, and one of the Mario Karts. But I’m always eager to try games I never have before!

Currently playing Super Paper Mario on Wii! Slowly, but it’s a fun game! Loaned to me by my beloved partner~

I’ve also been thinking of doing a more modern playthrough of Super Mario Sunshine. I beat the game, but over a period of YEARS and that was when I was a kid. I’ve also been wanting to play NSMB Wii, but it’s so squished on my CRT! Niche collector problems, I’m sure.

Have you ever tried Mario & Luigi?

 

[TamagotchiTamaHero24's iconTamagotchiTamaHero24]

Have you ever tried Mario & Luigi?

My baby…

Mario and Luigi hurts. It’s the formative version of the Mushroom Kingdom’s characters for me, being the version of the Mario world I use as the basis in my head. I loved BIS and Dream Team, but then… Paper Jam.


I heard many mixed things, a lot of negative things, on Brothership, but I’ve been meaning to get around to it. I WANT to love that game so badly. I miss Mario and Luigi. I also want to play the games I missed (Superstar Saga and Partners in Time) at some point! I watched a playthrough of Partners in Time, but that’s not the same thing as playing it.

 

[OmegaPunch's iconOmegaPunch]

My baby…

Mario and Luigi hurts. It’s the formative version of the Mushroom Kingdom’s characters for me, being the version of the Mario world I use as the basis in my head. I loved BIS and Dream Team, but then… Paper Jam.


I heard many mixed things, a lot of negative things, on Brothership, but I’ve been meaning to get around to it. I WANT to love that game so badly. I miss Mario and Luigi. I also want to play the games I missed (Superstar Saga and Partners in Time) at some point! I watched a playthrough of Partners in Time, but that’s not the same thing as playing it.

Bro, you're missing out!
I'd recommend starting with Superstar Saga since Partners in time features a returning character from that game.

 

[Ikagura]

I have to play Newer Super Mario Bros but first I want to redo the Super Princess Peach and original NSMB.

Whenever I feel like I need a comfort game, I always run to Super Mario Bros., Super Mario 64, and one of the Mario Karts. But I’m always eager to try games I never have before!

Currently playing Super Paper Mario on Wii! Slowly, but it’s a fun game! Loaned to me by my beloved partner~

I’ve also been thinking of doing a more modern playthrough of Super Mario Sunshine. I beat the game, but over a period of YEARS and that was when I was a kid. I’ve also been wanting to play NSMB Wii, but it’s so squished on my CRT! Niche collector problems, I’m sure.

I've been thinking of replaying Sunshine and NSMB Wii someday.

 

[TamagotchiTamaHero24's iconTamagotchiTamaHero24]

Bro, you're missing out!
I'd recommend starting with Superstar Saga since Partners in time features a returning character from that game.

…so… uh… we all know Fawful is in Partners in Time, right?

That’s literally the one thing I knew about that game for years was his one cutscene. People are VERY obsessed with Fawful. Not that I can blame them because he’s so good, but people kind of act like he’s all that Mario and Luigi is, when he’s moreso just the most developed new character from the sub-series.

 

[TamagotchiTamaHero24's iconTamagotchiTamaHero24]

I have horrible, haunting memories of playing NSMB Wii with my friend and his little brother. He would run ahead like an jerk, trying to make his little brother so frustrated that he would give up and go away, but the six year old just kept playing, dying, crying, and being mad. I was trapped in the middle, because I agreed the brother was bad at the game, but I didn’t want to see him fail and be upset! So I just kept trying to help the little brother out as my friend just kept jetting ahead.

Don’t be too upset. My friend was 15 at the time, I was 14, and the kid was 6. That kid is now 13 and is going through his “edgy teenage suburban white boy phase”. I pray for his soul that he doesn’t do anything TOO cringeworthy that he regrets later when he grows up.

My friend is now an accountant. And has a wife. He still runs ahead in NSMB Wii. Pain.

 

[Ikagura]

I have horrible, haunting memories of playing NSMB Wii with my friend and his little brother. He would run ahead like an jerk, trying to make his little brother so frustrated that he would give up and go away, but the six year old just kept playing, dying, crying, and being mad. I was trapped in the middle, because I agreed the brother was bad at the game, but I didn’t want to see him fail and be upset! So I just kept trying to help the little brother out as my friend just kept jetting ahead.

Don’t be too upset. My friend was 15 at the time, I was 14, and the kid was 6. That kid is now 13 and is going through his “edgy teenage suburban white boy phase”. I pray for his soul that he doesn’t do anything TOO cringeworthy that he regrets later when he grows up.

My friend is now an accountant. And has a wife. He still runs ahead in NSMB Wii. Pain.

NSMB Wii's biggest issue is how skill disparity makes it harder to play and how you can still throw people in the void.

 

[TamagotchiTamaHero24's iconTamagotchiTamaHero24]

NSMB Wii's biggest issue is how skill disparity makes it harder to play and how you can still throw people in the void.

Also when you have to balance a fifteen year old and a six year old fighting… when you’re 14.

 

[Ikagura]

Also when you have to balance a fifteen year old and a six year old fighting… when you’re 14.

That's why I mostly spent my time solo-ing the game but then you notice that the level design is too wide for SP play.

 

[Tonberry]

I loved 3D World. It feels so meaty and ”complete”.