Sonic Megathread

Best Sonic Formula?

  • Classic

    Votes: 33 55.9%
  • Adventure

    Votes: 21 35.6%
  • Boost

    Votes: 3 5.1%
  • Frontiers

    Votes: 2 3.4%

  • Total voters
    59
I don't think anyone thought it's bad?

I mean at first sight it's just not what you expect from a Sonic game, so it's funny. And the jank from the game adds to the humor factor. But once you embrace the vibe, you feel it.
 
It's good but it's out of place for a racing game. Maybe more suited for a rhythm game.
This. It is not bad music, it is just weird music, at least in style, for the game. It might been something akin to "Worked for Daytona USA" that was the thought process but there was many stars aligned right when Daytona USA's soundtrack was made and gilded as legend. Of course, especially at that time people wanted to expand horizon of racing music but Sonic R's soundtrack, while not bad, makes the whole feel off, it is not like Sonic music, and it is not like racing soundtrack either.

I cannot name many examples of same happening before but I am fairly sure it has happened in other cases too.
 
This. It is not bad music, it is just weird music, at least in style, for the game. It might been something akin to "Worked for Daytona USA" that was the thought process but there was many stars aligned right when Daytona USA's soundtrack was made and gilded as legend. Of course, especially at that time people wanted to expand horizon of racing music but Sonic R's soundtrack, while not bad, makes the whole feel off, it is not like Sonic music, and it is not like racing soundtrack either.

I cannot name many examples of same happening before but I am fairly sure it has happened in other cases too.

That's the point of discussion. I never actually thought of its soundtrack as alien to the game's aesthetics.

The whole package feels so whimsical that having vocal tracks that evoke feelings of happiness gives the game a tone that goes over the regular upbeat Mario Kart music.

Besides, the game is already bad, and having an OST that doesn't stand out with other games in the same genre wouldn't help it either.
 
Sonic R has one of the best OSTs i've heard. Reminds me a lot of the OST in Outrun 2006 Coast 2 Coast which is my favorite racing game.
I think people dislike it because it reminds them of ''old'' mainstream music and i kinda get it, it has this certain vibe, but it's the exact same thing that makes it charming for me.
 
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The first time I heard someone complain about it was in that old -- and amazing -- video made by Jontron years ago, when he still talked about games and not about silly stuff he bought on amazon:


After this, everytime the game comes into any conversation, the soundtrack -- specially the vocal tracks sang by TJ Davis -- are target of criticism.
People say the songs are cheesy, don't fit videogames, etc.

But why? In fact I always liked them since the Saturn days, and I clearly remember people in the gaming rental store I use to go back in the day gathering around the TV just to see people playing that '3D Sonic racing game with real music on it'.

Not only the concept was new, but people actually enjoyed those R&B-esque songs.

I think this is a phenomenon more frequent in english-speaking countries, since well, the songs are in english and the cheesiness may come from that, but I still respectfully disagree: Sonic R has an awesome OST and it's 'cheesy legacy' was passed on through OutRun 2, which is also a Sega racing game featuring similar tracks in style and vocals.
Also, remixes from the tracks from Sonic R appeared in recent games like Sonic & Sega All-Star Racing, Transformed and CrossWords, showing that even Sega is fond of that soundtrack.

What are your thoughts?

Here some examples:
because they weren't around in the 90s and have no taste in music.
 
I have never met anyone who thinks Sonic R's soundtrack is bad. Not even online have I seen people trash it so this is a surprise to me. Everyone I know and have seen say it is the only reason Sonic R is memorable aside from the Tails Doll
 
"Bad"!? Literally everyone and their grandma agrees that the soundtrack is amazing. Even Somecallmejohnny—one of the biggest Sonic fans—likes it.

My favorite track has always been "Living in the City."
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Sonic R has one of the best OSTs i've heard. Reminds me a lot of the OST in Outrun 2006 Coast 2 Coast which is my favorite racing game.
There was someone on Twitter who actually modded one of the newer "Outrun" games (I THINK it was "Outrun 2006" but my memory is a bit fuzzy) to replace the game's music with "Sonic R's" music. It fits perfectly.
 
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Besides, the game is already bad, and having an OST that doesn't stand out with other games in the same genre wouldn't help it either.
That is a weird argument, like saying they set out to make a bad game on purpose and thus also chose the sound track for that goal on purpose or something? I know you likely meant that is how the stars fell but still, the soundtrack is very off given what type of music Sonic had at that point. Of course, jump to something with CD quality music would be first with Sonic R, so there was no guiding principle but I am pretty sure more people agree they nailed that with Sonic Adventure and just about every game henceforth, even the "bad" sonic games have universally liked, and fitting music like 2006 and Air Riders series. Compared to that, the style and vocals are very weird choice. Vocals is not the issue even, vast majority of sonic games have vocals and even cross to pop style music, but still, Sonic R is very off in style that would be fitting to sonic game. It would not be off for a kart racing game, maybe, but still.
 
well, IT IS cheesy, in a very unapologetic 90s way, the kind people either love or hate and because the game wasn't overall well received it may also have soured people's view on the soundtrack back then

I wonder if it was a Nintendo game if people would treat it like they do.
I mean, Mario Sunshine for example, while being a better game than Sonic R, is still a flawed game that wouldn't be so praised if it wasn't on GameCube. But this is a different talk.
 
I wonder if it was a Nintendo game if people would treat it like they do.
I mean, Mario Sunshine for example, while being a better game than Sonic R, is still a flawed game that wouldn't be so praised if it wasn't on GameCube. But this is a different talk.
Nah, Sunshine generally rocks and it has exactly a fitting soundtrack that includes pho-acapella rendition of SMB Theme for bonus stages and so much more. Sunshine does not suck it was just seen that way at the time, as was Wind Waker. At it's time, games on GameCube were seen as sucky because they were on GameCube. Now it is has an inverse effect though generally, most nintendo GameCube games are all time hood classics in their own right. Melee, for sure is one, agree with it or not, there is like, a 20+ year old tournament scene telling their side of the story.
 
Nah, Sunshine generally rocks and it has exactly a fitting soundtrack that includes pho-acapella rendition of SMB Theme for bonus stages and so much more. Sunshine does not suck it was just seen that way at the time, as was Wind Waker. At it's time, games on GameCube were seen as sucky because they were on GameCube. Now it is has an inverse effect though generally, most nintendo GameCube games are all time hood classics in their own right. Melee, for sure is one, agree with it or not, there is like, a 20+ year old tournament scene telling their side of the story.
More like both Sunshine and Wind Waker suffered from rushed development in order to sell GameCubes and it showed. After all, Wii was a much more casual console and had all the more reasons to attract gamers ire, yet Galaxy and Twilight were overall much better received at launch.
 
I've never had anyone say it's bad, i have however heard plenty of people say it doesn't fit a sonic game, and that sonic R itself sucks.

I'm a big fan of sonic R's soundtrack myself.
 
More like both Sunshine and Wind Waker suffered from rushed development in order to sell GameCubes and it showed. After all, Wii was a much more casual console and had all the more reasons to attract gamers ire, yet Galaxy and Twilight were overall much better received at launch.
I think Galaxy is a better game than Sunshine (that's coming from a big Sunshine fan), but Wind Waker is much better than Twilight Princess in my opinion.
 

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