I am okay with TV/film/etc adaptions of video games not being 1000% faithful.

[Metroid_Hybrid]

I'm not okay with them, because the overwhelming majority of them are crap. Simple as..

My experience watching the first Resident Evil movie in theaters:

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[DinoRexMax DinoRexMax]

I'm not okay with them, because the overwhelming majority of them are crap. Simple as..

My experience watching the first Resident Evil movie in theaters:

There are precisely 2:32 seconds in Apocalypse where Jill is skulking about the Church with a gun that's a 1:1 scale with the games, and that's it.

The first film also gets a pass for being wholly unrelated to the overall RE canon, and it's only just okay-ish.

Fuck, "Weclome to Raccoon City" as well, and whatever the fuck that other Resident Evil show. Why smash both RE1 and 2 into one movie? Why turn Wesker black when you could've simply made it another child taken in by Oswald Spencer entirely? There was more than 1 "Wesker" in Project Wesker, but god forbid you don't poke the hornet's nest with racial controversy to promote your show.

"Why did they make Wesker black? He's not black in the games, why did they make him black?"
"That's racist, why is Wesker's race so important? It shouldn't matter what colour his skin is..."
"THEN WHY DID THEY MAKE WESKER BLACK?"

 

[JPchicre]

Well any 20+ hour game is gonna need changes in order to fit an 2 hour movie, or a 1 hour TV episode. Besides you can't really pace a movie the same way you pace a game, there are no gameplay segments, and the story has no gameplay to justify itself. Various moments that may fell cool while playing may seem weird in a movie when you are not actively playing it. Even in a heavily story driven game, such as uncharted, trying to translate it 1 to 1 is simply not gonna result in a satisfying experience, Playing Uncharted or even watching gameplay form uncharted, is not gonna give the same experience as any movie would, gameplay gives too much context to game stories,I t is not just Nathan Drake climbing a ledge, it is the player as Nathan Drake climbing a ledge. (Not that they really tried with that one)

 

[BrawlMan]

They may have been unknown to us at first but we learned who they were, got invested in their stories, etc. Most fans want to see the established characters brought to life on screen and following at least the basic story of the game mixed with partial made up stuff to fill in a proper running movie. If this new movie was being made and the games didn’t exist, that would be a different story, people wouldn’t judge it a certain way because we aren’t expecting anything in particular.

I wouldn't mind on screen adaption of these characters, but they haven't been done right, and it's almost pointless with the remakes now. Especially if we're talking about the remake of the second game. No matter how you look at it, it will just be a recreation of those scenes, but not as impactful, because we already know what's going to happen. I'm giving this new guy more of a chance.Even though I haven't seen these movies because he's at least being more creative with the creatures, and monsters.

Also, someone brought up Sonic, you can’t really make a proper Sonic movie if you’re going to follow the games lol he’d just be speeding through levels all movie until he gets to Eggman at the end. In a case like that, it’s cool to make an original story around it because you kinda need to in order to make a movie. At the end of the day, they still used the characters from the games and had them going on adventures and such, like the cartoons.

As much as I like the live action movies, I still wish these movies were animated movies, and ditched the Sonic characters go into our real world angle. The first film is so lucky that it would off of reshoots and goodwill alone. Otherwise those other sequels wouldn't have happened. As much as I love the action scenes in these movies, the c g I tech is expensive, and it's only gonna get more expensive from here the less we're in the "real world". I expect the fourth film to have Little Planet be the main attraction of the setting, along with the time travel aspects.

Also, that's pretty much those animated adaptions happen for Sonic back in the day. They had little to work off of and only expanded with creativity from themselves, or as more games started to come out. Though Archie Sonic already had a really large cast before the first Sonic Adventure game came out, and they started adapting those games into the comics.

because the overwhelming majority of them are crap. Simple as..

90% if everything is crap in any media, you're saying nothing new. That is why the 10% truly matters. Also a good amount have been improving or have consistent quality.So it's not as big a deal, as you think as it was back in the 90s or 2000s. I know hollywood doesn't respect a majority of properties even from their own medium, but most of these directors are writers are either actual fans or bother to do their research, but still make them fun or entertaining in some way. It ain't easy, but I really appreciate the ones who put effort into their work even if they decide to go to a different direction not everyone is going to agree on.

 

[Mirai1412]

No body mention Netflix's One Piece yet? That how do you adaptation will still maintain core spirit of original!

 

[Mileena]

There are precisely 2:32 seconds in Apocalypse where Jill is skulking about the Church with a gun that's a 1:1 scale with the games, and that's it.

The first film also gets a pass for being wholly unrelated to the overall RE canon, and it's only just okay-ish.

Fuck, "Weclome to Raccoon City" as well, and whatever the fuck that other Resident Evil show. Why smash both RE1 and 2 into one movie? Why turn Wesker black when you could've simply made it another child taken in by Oswald Spencer entirely? There was more than 1 "Wesker" in Project Wesker, but god forbid you don't poke the hornet's nest with racial controversy to promote your show.

"Why did they make Wesker black? He's not black in the games, why did they make him black?"
"That's racist, why is Wesker's race so important? It shouldn't matter what colour his skin is..."
"THEN WHY DID THEY MAKE WESKER BLACK?"

Yeah, when there is an agenda behind it…..yikes. In one part if I remember correctly when they first pulled in to the community I think it was one of his daughters that asked “where are all the black people?” while all the white people looked at them “that way”.

 

[DinoRexMax DinoRexMax]

No body mention Netflix's One Piece yet? That how do you adaptation will still maintain core spirit of original!

Since I already bitched about racial casting faux pas, I have to say, having Oda take the whip to the Netflix staff and ensure each actor is the race appropriate race he ascribed to them is a huge plus for the show. But then they go ahead and turn Vivi black anyway, so it was really all for nothing.

At the end of the day, they still used the characters from the games and had them going on adventures and such, like the cartoons.

As much as I like the live action movies, I still wish these movies were animated movies, and ditched the Sonic characters go into our real world angle.

This is just a problem with Disney tanking the animation industry, and everyone refused to countenance the fact of adapting something into animation anymore. Sure, the Mario movies were in CGI, fine, but I'm pretty sure I already saw Mario in 3D for the past 25 years so it's less of a spectacle. We are only ever teased with the idea of Mario animation in the commercials for some games, and we had the really cheaply made Super Show (which still was paired with live action segments).

An adaptation should be trying to use the most appropriate medium for the job, and something like Sonic really shouldn't be in live action in anyway. I mean, live action worked for TMNT, but even the turtles aren't as stylized as any given Sonic character. Sonic's a cartoon, through and through, and it's the main reason for why that repugnant early draft got shelved and rightfully so.

I had an entire paragraph bitching about One Piece not working in live action, but then I remembered the Mask (where the entire appeal was that it was a live-action cartoon) but I don't think any of the actors are going to live long enough to adapt that crazy Gear 5 shit anyhow. Honestly, the problem was making One Piece and ongoing TV series. There's far too much content to adapt in one Human's lifetime. It's been going on near 30 years, and it's still not finished (Final Arc, so I'm told, but you bet your ass someone's funding a Boruto/GT style sequel the moment the last chapter drops).

One Piece should be treated like legacy pulp novel heroes like Sherlock Holmes or Jame Bond, with a series of Anthology films dedicated to adapting each Arc individually (similar to how Bond and Holmes movies adapt a single book or story). That way, you can have each movie be somewhat self-contained, and not be super jarring when we have to switch out cast and crew after they all inevitably die of old age by the time we reach the Egghead or Elbaph arcs (and also gives the creators freedom to skip around a bit).

 

[BrawlMan]

This is just a problem with Disney tanking the animation industry, and everyone refused to countenance the fact of adapting something into animation anymore. Sure, the Mario movies were in CGI, fine, but I'm pretty sure I already saw Mario in 3D for the past 25 years so it's less of a spectacle. We are only ever teased with the idea of Mario animation in the commercials for some games, and we had the really cheaply made Super Show (which still was paired with live action segments).

At least the 3D Mario films have a distinct pastel look them, and have a few minor 2D element tricks. If the Sonic films were animated, they would have gone 3D, no different from nearly everything else. I would have been happy with that, but would have preferred 2D on the level of the OVAs or the Sonic CD opening.

That said, the comic is awesome!

No thank you. I was pretty much done with overly dark/grim shooter zombie games by the time TLOUS came out on PS3. The comic adaption is going to do nothing for me. It's why seeing games like Oneechanbara Z2 Chaos and Zombie Army 4 I considered a breath of fresh air.

I always thought the problem with Castlevania and Devil May Cry animations was Adi Shankar (due to some antagonistic remarks he made against fans) but he was the guy that made Dredd. You know, one of the only comic book movies where the actors keep the fucking mask on the entire movie? You know, like the comics, where he never takes it off? And it was fucking awesome.

So really, the problem lies with writer Warren Ellis, who wrote dreck like NeXtwave and The Authority, which are works that respect nothing. He's the kind of guy who looks at a character like Grant Danasty and goes "Ew" and just ignores them outright instead of trying to actually accomplish something witht the world he is given. He's also the kind of hack who's given a gypsy pirate, and instead re-writes Sypha from being an orphan raised by the church and a practitioner of WHITE magic, to being a spunky gypsy who threatens to pee on people like a spoiled child. He's the kind of hack who looks at a series like CASTLEVANIA, where the heroes contantly invoke God and literally pelt monsters with a FUCKING CRUCIFIX, and thinks "Hmm, this sounds like a perfect oppurtunity to express my GOD BAD rhetoric, that's perfectly appropriate for story where my heroes fight vampires! Where's my twinkies, I'm fat! Blegh!"

I am not going to agree with every single change these guys did (more Warren Ellis. I don't like guy, but at least he got kicked out before Season 4 production began). I am not in-depth with every single Castlevania's character nor backstory, but I enjoy both versions of Sypha, and she did improve as a character not far too long into the second season. She's is one of the most awesome character in the original Netflix series. She get some of the best action sequences; especially by the third and fourth season. She has better Avatar/LoK action, than nearly anything Legend of Korra could come up with! The only thing I hate the Castlevania Netflix, is really just Season 3. Outside of some parts with Issac, it's a waste of everyone's time. Characters included, in-universe.

It's sad Grant could not get adapted, but that was clearly more of budget constraint than any insecurity from Ellis's part. The pilot (which was a movie split into 4 episodes) especially was working on a low budget, and you can tell when you getting the second and third season.

As for Adi Shankar, as much as I like both season of Netflix DMC (Season 1 is an entertaining 5/10, while Season 2 is a genuine 8/10 for me), he really needs to sit down, and shut the fuck up. He hasn't done anything recently as far as I know, but I stay away from Twitter/Social Media "drama" in general. Adi, sit your ass down, and continue direction awesome action scenes. That is all. I don't need your politics you claim to be an "expert", nor "care about". Seriously though, at least DMC Netflix has so much better action and animated action scenes than the non-action that mostly went on in Mad House DMC (2007). It was 12 episode of nothing, and most episodes inconsequential to the overall narrative. Also, Patty is boring and was never needed as a character. She should have been dropped after the first two episodes.

 

[DinoRexMax DinoRexMax]

Seriously though, at least DMC Netflix has so much better action and animated action scenes than the non-action that mostly went on in Mad House DMC (2007). It was 12 episode of nothing, and most episodes inconsequential to the overall narrative. Also, Patty is boring and was never needed as a character. She should have been dropped after the first two episodes.

That does not make it good, or even exceptional. They're both different flavours of awful. DMC (2007) is Iocaine Powder. It is an colorless, odorless, and deadly poison from Australia. DMC Netflix is a septic tank in an open wound. Both will likely kill you, but one is significantly smellier and more offensive than the other.

 

[saturnsh2x2]

Generally speaking, I think people treat faithfulness to the original source material as too strong a metric for an adaptation's quality, regardless of whether or not it stands on its own merits. Off the top of my head, I prefer how much more dynamic the Jotaro vs DIO fight was portrayed in the JoJo OVA as opposed to David Productions' anime, despite the latter being more faithful, sometimes to a fault.

This but Trigun.

Trigun especially, since production began only a handful of chapters into Maximum's run, and could only really adapt a small chunk of the story told up until that point. If I recall, Nightow himself really liked the anime, and it ended up becoming a framework for where Maximum would eventually end.

I don't hate the first movie, but it felt very average, and barely like a Sonic film. The characters do grow on you later. The sequels made sure to correct this. All three movies and the eventual fourth film are still better than Sonic X. I don't like the Knuckles t v show though. I genuinely hate it.

It kills me that Sonic X is the adaptation that's closest to the games, because the show genuinely didn't have a budget, and it shows in the animation. The style even cheaps out on basic details, like Sonic only being depicted with three quills from the back instead of his usual six. Like, I have a soft spot for the show, but even the recent manga, Sonic and the Blade of Courage, does a better job of executing what X was trying to do.

 

[Evaccaneer Doom]

Depends. One one hand we have Kirby: Right Back At Ya
On the other, Dragon Ball Evolution

Also the Sonic movies which I was never too jazzed about. Not huge on the premise and I really wish they did something like the OVA, which was a side story in the Sonic universe itself only vaguely based on the games instead of Sonic X's premise again. But that's my opinion.

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Also, someone brought up Sonic, you can’t really make a proper Sonic movie if you’re going to follow the games lol he’d just be speeding through levels all movie until he gets to Eggman at the end. In a case like that, it’s cool to make an original story around it because you kinda need to in order to make a movie. At the end of the day, they still used the characters from the games and had them going on adventures and such, like the cartoons.

You can have a Sonic 1 adaptation explaining the origins of Sonic, badniks and the world at large. It definitely has a lot of potential there. I'd love to see Christmas Island explored upon, they've never adapted it in the games and abandoned the classic locations. Maybe they could also explain the Tornado, which used to be Sonic's plane.

 

[Metroid_Hybrid]

Generally speaking, I think people treat faithfulness to the original source material as too strong a metric for an adaptation's quality, regardless of whether or not it stands on its own merits.

It's more-so that "faithfulness to the original source material" is a far more dialectic metric than many people may even be aware of, much less ready to properly engage with. It's not in all cases a strictly black & white "objective" standard per se, but (unfortunately) closer to that of the Jacobellis v. Ohio "I know it when I see it" type of standard..
In less esoteric terms; if too many elements from the bedrock canon are missing, or severely altered and/or subverted, then it's naturally going to be found to be repugnant to the pre-installed fanbase. Everything about Disney Star Wars (sequel trilogy & EU) and Amazon's "Rings of Power" are a virtual masterclass in getting everything wrong in this category..

As far as "whether or not it stands on its own merits," I'll use the first Resident Evil movie as an example. "On it's own merits," it was a fairly serviceable (6.5/10) sci-fi action "popcorn movie." But as a "Resident Evil" movie, it consistently got so many little things wrong that it dragged everything that was good about it into the dirt... ultimately turning it into a 3/10 in my eyes..

 

[BrawlMan]

DMC Netflix is a septic tank in an open wound. Both will likely kill you, but one is significantly smellier and more offensive than the other.

DMC Netflix actually remembers to be fun. I am more especially talking about Season 2. Also, dat glow up on Arius. They actually made him a credible, threatening, and entertaining villain for the right reasons! And he killed Baines. Big bonus, but it could have happened a little sooner. At least the fucker and his cronies died. Put a big smile on my face.

I really wish they did something like the OVA, which was a side story in the Sonic universe itself only vaguely based on the games

It wasn't even really a "side story". The OVA pretty much takes place in its own pocket dimension. I am sure it was supposed to expand some stuff at the time, but due to its failure, SEGA pretty much dropped it and don't like talking about it. I love the OVA, but SEGA has shame for the dumbest and sillies things, but will have no shame for much worse actions in the past.

It kills me that Sonic X is the adaptation that's closest to the games, because the show genuinely didn't have a budget, and it shows in the animation. The style even cheaps out on basic details, like Sonic only being depicted with three quills from the back instead of his usual six. Like, I have a soft spot for the show, but even the recent manga, Sonic and the Blade of Courage, does a better job of executing what X was trying to do.

It's why I'd sooner just go back to the first three Sonic cartoons, Prime, or even Boom. They at least have something going for them. Underground you can only get me to watch with someone to mock.

 

[rockito]

Resident Evil's story sucks ass and it's barely serviceable in the format of a videogame, so the only way Zach could possibly make a good movie is by doing something original.

That aside, I really couldn't care less what they do with videogame adaptations. If I want to watch good horror movie I go for The Thing, not Resident Evil. If I want to watch a good martial arts movie, I go for 36th Camera of Shaolin, not Street Fighter. Not to hate on people who enjoy videogame-based movies, I was crazy about the original Mortal Kombat movie from 1995 and I still watch it from time to time, but there are just so many more interesting movies out there to watch more worthy of your time than videogame movies.

Anyway those are my 2 cents, I'm just here for the roms.

 

[BrawlMan]

I go for 36th Camera of Shaolin, not Street Fighter. Not to hate on people who enjoy videogame-based movies, I was crazy about the original Mortal Kombat movie from 1995 and I still watch it from time to time, but there are just so many more interesting movies out there to watch more worthy of your time than videogame movies.

Or you can enjoy both or all the above. That means we're eating good. MK 1995 is legit good, and SFII: The Animated Movie is excellent.

 

[Metroid_Hybrid]

Once upon a time, I read that Resident Evil originally had a script written by George Romero himself that was going to be a straight adaptation of the first Resident Evil game. But Capcom said no, fired him, and then hired the ding-bat that gave us what we eventually got..
Imagine what we could have had?!?

 

[Kovlak]

I agree with you, but I want to see something somewhat faithful. The new Resident Evil doesn't appear to have anything from the game franchise apart from the zombies. At least have RE's BOWs! It has a different monster... Blah!

It looks like a regular zombie movie. Almost nothing RE about it.

 

[BrawlMan]

Once upon a time, I read that Resident Evil originally had a script written by George Romero himself that was going to be a straight adaptation of the first Resident Evil game. But Capcom said no, fired him, and then hired the ding-bat that gave us what we eventually got..
Imagine what we could have had?!?

Everyone is aware of that story. Really sucks what happened. I actually read the script online back in the early 2000s. Romero did change some things (Chris wasn't part of STARS, and was part Native American for some reason), but the man nearly had everything from the first game, into the film. It was still a bit more zombie focused than what Capcom wanted (ironic, because that's what happened with most the WS Anderson films any way), but he even was able to bring in the zombie sharks! The zombie sharks!

I agree with you, but I want to see something somewhat faithful. The new Resident Evil doesn't appear to have anything from the game franchise apart from the zombies. At least have RE's BOWs! It has a different monster... Blah!

It looks like a regular zombie movie. Almost nothing RE about it.

The director does imply he will have more than just zombies showing up. Whatever dragged that dead security guard/soldier while doing all of that screeching, either has to be a Licker or Hunter. I am going for Licker. You can't reveal too much this early. It would spoil the surprises.

 

[Burzuru Burzuru]

i'll stand by that this is the best movie adaption of the video gamer ever.

 

[Kovlak]

The director does imply he will have more than just zombies showing up. Whatever dragged that dead security guard/soldier while doing all of that screeching, either has to be a Licker or Hunter. I am going for Hunter. You can't reveal too much this early. It would spoil the surprises.

The trailer displayed a glimpse of a bigger (mutated?) zombie.

 

[BrawlMan]

The trailer displayed a glimpse of a bigger (mutated?) zombie.

Fans theorize its a Tyrant model dubbed, Mr. XL/Xtra Large.

 

[Metroid_Hybrid]

i'll stand by that this is the best movie adaption of the video gamer ever.

I never knew this existed..
The fact that it got such a low "critic" score on Rotten Tomatoes makes me extra curious..
I'll have to check it out tomorrow..

 

[Fietto!]

I never knew this existed..
The fact that it got such a low "critic" score on Rotten Tomatoes makes me extra curious..
I'll have to check it out tomorrow..

It's awesome.

 

[DieDieDanmakuDoll]

I feel similiarly i honestly like it when adaptions do something unique from the original loose adaption can be fun, i kinda love the 80s mario movie for being off it's rocker. but i suppose the problem is nobody is obligated to assume straying from the source is in good faith of creative interests anymore due to plenty of adaptions being made either in disinterest or contempt for the source material they are using as a costume to bait fans for money the last decade had a lot of that so i assume a lot of people are just tired of it.

 

[dizzypixel]

i am ok not watching them in return :D