I am okay with TV/film/etc adaptions of video games not being 1000% faithful.

[BrawlMan]

a lot of that so i assume a lot of people are just tired of it.

Which is ironic as many of the movies, people like that were adapted from literature or certain comic books strayed from the source material and didn't complain back then, most of the time. Assuming they even read them in the first place. Not everything is 1 to 1, but it shows the double standards or hypocrisy at times or they want a faithful adaption under their pathetic terms. Or assume it'll exactly give it high quality.

 

[DieDieDanmakuDoll]

Which is ironic as many of the movies, people like that were adapted from literature or certain comic books straight from the source material and didn't complain back then, most of the time. Assuming they even read them in the first place. Not everything is 1 to 1, but it shows the double standards or hypocrisy at times or they want a faithful adaption under their pathetic terms. Or assume it'll exactly give it high quality.

there is a difference between this and the shit show thats been adaptions lately particularly the trend of adaptations that are very forefront that they hold the original and the fans in active contempt though i feel it is a bit fair to be defensive after this has become fairly common

 

[BrawlMan]

forefront that they hold the original and the fans in active contempt

People keep saying that, but that's usually not the case for most of these modern adaptions. There is no "contempt" a majority of the time. It's either imagined or certain fans are upset that they didn't get every single thing they wanted, and are way too possessive of something that was never theirs to begin with. Nor have ownership of. If you're talking about somebody like Uwe Bowell, you would have had a point back in the 2000s. Not every director/writer/creative that adapts these works have a hatred for the fans on the people who enjoy this stuff. Paul WS didn't hold contempt to the fandom, but he clearly just wanted to make movies with his wife, and that was it. His was just more apathy than mere contempt.


The people behind the Sonic movies are clear fans of this franchise. The same applies to the recent Mario movies, both modern Mortal Kombat films (even though I really don't like the first reboot film, because of the executive meddling), Cuphead TV show, and both Castlevania shows. I don't care what your feelings are on the shows, but none of them hold contempt for their fans. DMC Netflix doesn't either, but the director clearly needs to shut up and get off twitter. as much as I do like the show or the second season mainly he's not the savior of the franchise that he thinks he is. So far I haven't heard lip from him after season two aired. So hopefully he learned something. That's part of the problem: people in general need to stop engaging in social media ( be they creatives or actual regular people) and stop flinging each other and picking sides over the dumbest things. Something Kojima called out over twenty years ago. I judge things for how they are, and I don't try to throw myself into the drama, nor judge too much. Those are the toxic fans in fake fans tend to work this as always, on a majority of social media platforms. And then you got those that just want to start shit for the sake of it and nothing more, because they will never amount to anything in life. The only good thing from this is that grifter culture is finally collapsing in on itself, and having an identity crisis (as mentioned in the video near the end). So even the people they've been fooling and using are finally starting to realize this or break away to something more positive and constructive at least.

At the end of the day, choose what you want.But don't let these fools bother you, and just remember that hollywood is already a bankrupt industry, and the execs, don't care as so long as they get their money. So long is the actual creative team care and put their hearts into it, even if it's not their best, or if there's some change, I'll always have respect for regardless, if I like it or not, i'm sure it's held not gonna harass them for it. If I dislike it, I'll say my thoughts or rant, and then move on.

I will say video game adaptions into different media has gotten a lot better than it ever was in the 90s and 2000s. We will still get crap every now.And then, but the output has really been consistently good. I don't care what anyone else says on that.

 

[Metroid_Hybrid]

People keep saying that, but that's usually not the case for most of these modern adaptions. There is no "contempt" a majority of the time.

I challenge you to take a look at virtually all of the PR surrounding Disney Star Wars in general (The Acolyte, in particular) and Amazon's "Rings of Power," and tell me that they don't actively (and preemptively) hold their pre-installed fanbase(s) in open, vitriolic contempt..

 

[BrawlMan]

I challenge you to take a look at virtually all of the PR surrounding Disney Star Wars in general (The Acolyte, in particular) and Amazon's "Rings of Power," and tell me that they don't actively (and preemptively) hold their pre-installed fanbase(s) in open, vitriolic contempt..

Contempt from the executive class? Yes, but it's not even that most of the: just pure plain and blind greed. Especially if we're talking about Disney (this is the same company that cancel their video game lineup because they weren't dominating the market back during seventh generation), but neither are part of this conversation when i'm talking about strictly video game adaptions right now.

Disney, just put their stuff out on an assembly line and see what works. It's why I lost interest in star wars, but not because of actual creatives out in the dirt. Even if I don't like some of the media, but I got bored of it, and I got sick of the fighting between toxic/fake fans, and them harassing the people working in the industry because they're either women or people of color ( who are still inherently worse and actively do this stuff without regret). Be they actors, writers, for actual fans who just wanted something fun and are minding their own business. That is all I have to say on that matter, and I don't wanna hear anything else otherwise.

 

[DieDieDanmakuDoll]

I challenge you to take a look at virtually all of the PR surrounding Disney Star Wars in general (The Acolyte, in particular) and Amazon's "Rings of Power," and tell me that they don't actively (and preemptively) hold their pre-installed fanbase(s) in open, vitriolic contempt..

not to mention the shit show that was Velma, that show solo'd in reducing tolerance for loose adapations

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Contempt from the executive class? Yes, but it's not even that most of the: just pure plain and blind greed. Especially if we're talking about Disney (this is the same company that cancel their video game lineup because they weren't dominating the market back during seventh generation), but neither are part of this conversation when i'm talking about strictly video game adaptions right now.

Disney, just put their stuff out on an assembly line and see what works. It's why I lost interest in star wars, but not because of actual creatives out in the dirt. Even if I don't like some of the media, but I got bored of it, and I got sick of the fighting between toxic/fake fans, and them harassing the people working in the industry because they're either women or people of color ( who are still inherently worse and actively do this stuff without regret). Be they actors, writers, for actual fans who just wanted something fun and are minding their own business. That is all I have to say on that matter, and I don't wanna hear anything else otherwise.

well i did address the pure greed angle in my original comment when i said indifference. hence i acknowledged there is two tiers in indifference which is already hollow and insulting to fans they are being baited for money by corpos making a lousy cosplay of an ip they like, and then there's the contempt tier which is even worse it wasn't to say every bad adaption was contempt. the better point might be fans noticed a lot of adaptions are not made in their best interest so they are acting accordingly suspicious of offerings now.

 

[BrawlMan]

mention the shit show that was Velma, that show solo'd in reducing tolerance for loose adapations

That's the exception and not the rule. I'm just happy it didn't get any more seasons after that second or third season. It ends with her staying in hell and that's the best thing possible.

the better point might be fans noticed a lot of adaptions are not made in their best interest so they are acting accordingly suspicious of offerings now.

Suspicion, within reason, but you have those biting the hands off at gripters and going into full paranoia, and thinking an I p is theirs despite never writing nor anything to contribute in the creative field. Nor in the creative field outside of clickbaiting and rage baiting "content". It's one thing to be cautious, and it's another thing to just start attacking anybody who is different or new. Once again, the video points us out and why going raging about it on social media doesn't help anybody. Especially the whole you're with me or against me attitude. That solves nothing, nor does it represent everybody either. Again, more people will be happy.If they disengage with that stuff or actually have actual discussion that aren't limited to all caps or shouting.

 

[DieDieDanmakuDoll]

That's the exception and not the rule. I'm just happy it didn't get any more seasons after that second or third season. It ends with her staying in hell and that's the best thing possible.


Suspicion, within reason, but you have those biting the hands off at gripters and going into full paranoia, and thinking an I p is theirs despite never writing nor anything to contribute in the creative field. Nor in the creative field outside of clickbaiting and rage baiting "content". It's one thing to be cautious, and it's another thing to just start attacking anybody who is different or new. Once again, the video points us out and why going raging about it on social media doesn't help anybody. Especially the whole you're with me or against me attitude. That solves nothing, nor does it represent everybody either. Again, more people will be happy.If they disengage with that stuff or actually have actual discussion that aren't limited to all caps or shouting.

yep you got a point folks do go too far a lot of the time and engage in harassing people too. i mean thats how we lost star wars to disney in the first place fans got so out of control lucas had enough and moved on and every other creative who cares probably doesn't want to touch the ip just for the inevitable mess. unfortunately we have not invented the chill pill that will make people act rational yet

 

[rockito]

SFII: The Animated Movie is excellent.

It's decent at best. Better than the Van Damme movie but that's it, and I would say the live action has rewatch value out of how goofy it is, in a "good bad movie" sense. The anime is forgetabble on the other hand.

 

[BrawlMan]

yep you got a point folks do go too far a lot of the time and engage in harassing people too. i mean thats how we lost star wars to disney in the first place fans got so out of control lucas had enough and moved on and every other creative who cares probably doesn't want to touch the ip just for the inevitable mess. unfortunately we have not invented the chill pill that will make people act rational yet

Which is why those toxic fans did exactly what they deserve.They did it to themselves and got what they wanted. How many of them actually learned their lesson? None. Doing the same thing over and over again and they will never, ever be happy. It's why i'm glad I moved away from star wars. I was always just a casual fan, but they made me realize how outside of the two or threw things, I really don't care for the franchise. I was already interested in different stuff beforehand, but it in finding out the lack of a plan for the sequel trilogy (they really were just pulling stuff out of their butt, and in a desperate attempt to please hardcore fans in everybody at the same time), really opened my eyes. I did enjoy Last Skywalker, but it was an average enjoyment, and I left. I didn't check out vision one and two, but nothing else. Both of which I did enjoy.

 

[Metroid_Hybrid]

i'm talking about strictly video game adaptions right now.

I'm pointing out the Disney & Amazon examples because they far more ubiquitous & harder to "handwave" away..

I got sick of the fighting between toxic/fake fans, and them harassing the people working in the industry because they're either women or people of color ( who are still inherently worse and actively do this stuff without regret).

This sort of thing is exactly the AstroTurfed, preemptive nonsense that I was talking about. Automatically calling anyone & everyone who dares to criticize glaringly obvious subversions as '-ist's & '-phobe's, and ragebaiting grifters is just the absolute clearest, archetypal example(s) of bad faith PR that one can possibly imagine..
If you can't engage with criticism without Ad Hominem Ad Infinitum, then you're admitting that you don't actually have an argument at all..
Criticism ≠ Hate..

 

[Megarockman _1987 Megarockman _1987]

Sometimes a TV or movie adaptation is better than the original media, for example Dragon Ball Z (in my opinion)
Or the Netflix adaptation of Scott pilgrim is so cool!

I love when a adaptation is very faithful, but sometimes is more interesting a adaptation with a different view

 

[DieDieDanmakuDoll]

Which is why those toxic fans did exactly what they deserve.They did it to themselves and got what they wanted. How many of them actually learned their lesson? None. Doing the same thing over and over again and they will never, ever be happy. It's why i'm glad I moved away from star wars. I was always just a casual fan, but they made me realize how outside of the two or threw things, I really don't care for the franchise. I was already interested in different stuff beforehand, but it in finding out the lack of a plan for the sequel trilogy (they really were just pulling stuff out of their butt, and in a desperate attempt to please hardcore fans in everybody at the same time), really opened my eyes. I did enjoy Last Skywalker, but it was an average enjoyment, and I left. I didn't check out vision one and two, but nothing else. Both of which I did enjoy.

Yeah I do see a strong irony that star wars fans got themselves in this mess during the prequel era by losing their absolute shit and harassing people who worked on that film and they just never learned a lesso this just keeps happening every time with new justifications its quite exhausting. I still wanna read the star wars books just from my own bubble because they look fun asf and i wanna read more just away from the fandom lol.

 

[BrawlMan]

pointing out the Disney & Amazon examples because they far more ubiquitous & harder to "handwave" away..

Those are too obvious, and they really don't need any explanation. I'm not hand waving anything, just pointing out what was already there, and what people tend to miss or ignore until it gets up in their face. And even then they'll still miss the point or try to blame it on somebody that has nothing to do with anything.

Automatically calling anyone & everyone who dares to criticize glaringly obvious subversions as '-ist's & '-phobe's,

Most people aren't being called a phobes or ists for criticism. That's a loud local minority the grifters used to spin their stories even further (all they care about is your fear, and outrage and never an actual solution or a solution that only benefits them) leading us to what I just described before, where most of this happens on social media anyway. It's fun and you disengage in the discourse or look outside or actually just focus on the media without anybody's influence or bias. You can get a clear picture even if you're not sure everything. Though again, the grifters are starting to lose struggle and betray each other, because they know nobody actually really likes them, or are only united by hate. United only by hate crumbles at some point, via themselves and within their own groups, because of cost and self preservation.

still wanna read the star wars books just from my own bubble because they look fun asf and i wanna read more just away from the fandom lol.

Then do so. They can't stop you.

 

[Metroid_Hybrid]

Those are too obvious, and they really don't need any explanation. I'm not hand waving anything, just pointing out what was already there, and what people tend to miss or ignore until it gets up in their face. And even then they'll still miss the point or try to blame it on somebody that has nothing to do with anything.

Most people aren't being called a phobes or ists for criticism. That's a loud local minority the grifters used to spin their stories even further (all they care about is your fear, and outrage and never an actual solution or a solution that only benefits them) leading us to what I just described before, where most of this happens on social media anyway. It's fun and you disengage in the discourse or look outside or actually just focus on the media without anybody's influence or bias. You can get a clear picture even if you're not sure everything. Though again, stephen, the grifters are starting to lose strugglehold and betray each other, because they know nobody actually really likes them, or are only united by hate. United only by hate crumbles at some point, via themselves and within.

That was a bunch of bad faith world salad..
Plus, who the hell is Stephen?

If you can't engage with criticism without Ad Hominem Ad Infinitum, then you're admitting that you don't actually have an argument at all..
Criticism ≠ Hate..

 

[BrawlMan]

That was a bunch of bad faith world salad..

No, you just only hear what you wanna hear. It's what grifters do, in your another influence in some way. They say what you only wanna hear and twist words to suit their needs. Not my fault, you suck up one of them. They don't give a fuck about you. Only your time, attention, and money. I mean to an end. I wouldn't expect you to figure out because you never listen and constantly fool yourself. We're getting off topic now, so i'm ending. If you wanna talk about the stuff with amazon and disney, just throw it on your own thread and be done with it. More so Disney, because they haven't done an adaption of a game yet, as far as I know.

Plus, who the hell is Stephen?

Google speak messed up on that one. I'm not at my laptop.

 

[Metroid_Hybrid]

No, you just only hear what you wanna hear. It's what grifters do, in your another influence in some way. They say what you only wanna hear and twist words to suit their needs. Not my fault, you suck up one of them. They don't give a fuck about you. Only your time, attention, and money. I mean to an end. I wouldn't expect you to figure out because you never listen and constantly fool yourself. We're getting off topic now, so i'm ending. If you wanna talk about the stuff with amazon and disney, just throw it on your own thread and be done with it. More so Disney, because they haven't done an adaption of a game yet, as far as I know.

Grifter
/ˈɡriftər/
A con artist or swindler who tricks people out of their money through fraud rather than using physical force.

How does that apply to me?
Once again... (taps sign)....

If you can't engage with criticism without Ad Hominem Ad Infinitum, then you're admitting that you don't actually have an argument at all..
Criticism ≠ Hate..

 

[BrawlMan]

How does that apply to me?
Once again... (taps sign)....

Figure it out on your own time. Otherwise, get out if you have nothing relevant to discuss at this point, because it's getting enough off topic already. I won't repeat myself again.

Back to the actual subject at hand: i'm more than ready for the next adaptions coming out. Both Resident Evil and Street Fighter I'm excited to see, so we get a twofer.

 

[Serotonin]

The problem is when the loose adaptations seep into the original source material. Like Netflix Castlevania; decent show, but it's very unfaithful and the fact that it's overtaken the actual Castlevania games in popularity is a troubling sign for its future.

As for the upcoming Resident Evil, I trust in Zach Creggar. His horror films are great, he's an RE fan, and WKUK were legendary. I'll watch it even if it's not faithful.

 

[BrawlMan]

t's overtaken the actual Castlevania games is a troubling sign for its future.

Other than art style influence with the newest title (which seems to be taking a little more from Nocturne), not necessarily and still way too early to judge. I don't mind the change up, and is at least an art style that looks really great, and even better in Belmont's Curse. Also, those shows know how to do action.

As for the upcoming Resident Evil, I trust in Zach Creggar. His horror films are great, he's an RE fan, and WKUK were legendary. I'll watch it even if it's not faithful.

I have not seen any of his works, but I am giving him a chance, because I want to see the crazy creature designs he's come up with, and his own spin on established bio weapons from the game.

 

[Serotonin]

Other than art style influence with the newest title (which seems to be taking a little more from Nocturne), not necessarily and still way too early to judge. I don't mind the change up, and is at least an art style that looks really great, and even better in Belmont's Curse. Also, those shows know how to do action.

My mistake, I meant to say "in popularity". If there is a future of Castlevania, I want it to follow the games, not the series.

I have not seen any of his works, but I am giving him a chance, because I want to see the crazy creature designs he's come up with, and his own spin on established bio weapons from the game.

Barbarian and Weapons are highly recommended

 

[BrawlMan]

My mistake, I meant to say "in popularity". If there is a future of Castlevania, I want it to follow the games, not the series.

Congratulations, it's following the classic games continuity. It's not following the show, nor Lords of Shadow either. Which makes sense for the latter, because it already had its grand finale. Also, I would not mind a game, or spin off game based off of either show. It could be a 2D hand animated sidescroller, or a 3D cel-shaded stylish action game, and I would be game! Bring the original voice actors from the show, and I am all in!

Barbarian and Weapons are highly recommended

I've heard. I might check Barbarian out first.

It's decent at best. Better than the Van Damme movie but that's it, and I would say the live action has rewatch value out of how goofy it is, in a "good bad movie" sense. The anime is forgetabble on the other hand.

Big disagreement there. The film is excellent. It does have some flaws, and some minor padding, but they did the best they could with what little backstory was still there at the time. If it wasn't for the film, we would not have the major influence and hyper anime art direction of the Alpha/Zero series. SFII: The Animated Movie works because its uncomplicated, and distills what was and is best about the franchise. The fact this film still gets praised today (getting a third life in the early 2020s) for its action, animation, soundtrack in the West, and laid down the characterization for Ryu and Ken's relationship for decades to come.

 

[BrawlMan]

 

[BigTony]

An adaptation should respect the source material but it doesn't need to perfectly replicate it I think the original Resident Evil did a really good job of this

 

[BrawlMan]

An adaptation should respect the source material but it doesn't need to perfectly replicate it I think the original Resident Evil did a really good job of this

I still would have preferred Romero's original script though. Respectful and much more accurate compared to the first Anderson film.