What is the best version of Final Fantasy IV?

  • SNES

    Votes: 16 28.1%
  • PSOne

    Votes: 7 12.3%
  • GBA

    Votes: 15 26.3%
  • PSP

    Votes: 20 35.1%
  • Nintendo DS

    Votes: 16 28.1%
  • PC (FFIV 3D remake)

    Votes: 4 7.0%
  • Pixel Remaster

    Votes: 9 15.8%

  • Total voters
    57
I just don't understand what they are doing with the franchise anymore.
Well obviously they only care to milk it dry to the end.

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I ain't the biggest fan of the original , but I fucking struggled getting through the remake. It is the most padded out story in any game I've ever played, even more than Yakuza 5. That entire chapter dedicated to getting that silver haired placeholder's charm back in the sewers was just nothing, and I would excuse shit like that if the game was fun to play, but it wasn't. Genuinely, at least half of my problems with the game would be resolved if Square didn't keep sucking Nomura's cock and signing him on to EVERYTHING Final Fantasy. Jesus Christ.

I did enjoy Intergrade, though. Combat was actually decent.

Also, Barret in Remake, and presumably Rebirth, is the best character in this entire franchise.
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Lightning returns is as good as majoras mask for anyone that actually gave the game a decent chance
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Lightning returns is as good as majoras mask for anyone that actually gave the game a decent chance, maybe not as groundbreaking as MM, but thats a given though.

I always wanted to try to play the game, I abandoned it when I learned of the time limit, tunrs out it's not bad at all and quite generous.

All in all lightning returns is a majoras mask/valkyrie profile game where lightning is the Valkyrie, it's pretty great so long as you aren't expecting a final fantasy game and I think the clue is in the name being ligtning returns and not final fantasy 13-3, the dev really just wanted to make a valyrie profile game starring lightning, shameless
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Man, you must REEEEEALLY hate Majora's Mask.
 
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I will eventually buy it, but I've got a huge backlog and I want to really sink my soul into a game like that
 
If it comes with Celdia's Complete Patch V2, I'm buying it
 
I've played vanilla FFT far too much to bother playing it again unmodded.
 
I'm kinda bummed they chose to omit the WotL content additions and classes, but I absolutely adore the original game to death and consider it the single best FF game out there. I'd be lying if I pretended not to be excited for this.
Even if only because it gives me an excuse to replay the game for the umpteenth time.

That said, I've never been a big fan of their font choice - it kinda works for Tactics Ogre Reborn, but not for FFT in my mind - or of that smoothing filter they're using.
I've seen far worse of either, but still.
 
I expected about this: like the Pixel Remasters versions of the first six FF turn-battle games, this is another FF re-release that removes every addition of the PSP upgrade. It's sad that Square Enix likes to develop 2020's remaster games without the important changes who developed in the past upgraded versions who becomes much better than the originals.

Money some JRPG enthusiasts will lose with this second FFT1 remaster.
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I'm kinda bummed they chose to omit the WotL content additions and classes, but I absolutely adore the original game to death and consider it the single best FF game out there. I'd be lying if I pretended not to be excited for this.
Even if only because it gives me an excuse to replay the game for the umpteenth time.

That said, I've never been a big fan of their font choice - it kinda works for Tactics Ogre Reborn, but not for FFT in my mind - or of that smoothing filter they're using.
I've seen far worse of either, but still.
The PSP remake is better in various ways, but retains the difficulty of the original PS1, including the dead end-like battle against Wiegraf. Also, getting Balthier(12) and Luso(TA2) is harder, if you don't have a strategy guide in your room.
 
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I love the game. Will not spend money, but I love the graphics. I was not a fan of Remake/Rebirths graphics or its sometimes questionable translation - but EC feels like a nice middle ground between it and the OG. I love it.
 
Kain , case solved.
not according to that video. cid is the best according to that youtuber. he also said that the black mage from ff tactics id also the best black mage in the series. he also beat ff9 with just freya, quina, and garnet in solo runs of the game. he does a lot of ff content related stuff.
 
I think that, in a regular playthrough, Freya is a disappointing party member.

First of all, she is female, and FFIX is a political game, so she has the lowest strength of all dedicated physical attackers in the game. She often falls behind on damage from Zidane, Steiner and Amarant. So why would we use her?

Jump actually sucks in this game. Unlike what Tantacles said, the fact it voids elemental and support effects from attacks is pretty bad. In FFIX, fighters should be equipped with killer abilities, and depending on occasion, MP Attack and take advantage of elemental alignment to boost damage from their physical hits. If Freya jumps, she voids all those effects for a sweet 1.5 damage increase that costs 2 turns to discharge, all the while eliminating a heavily armoured character and making the mages more prone to damage. 2 turns, 1.5 attack. It isn't even the default 2x damage from other games, which tends to be useless itself.

That could be worth it if like in some other games, Jump attacks avoided countering, but they don't in this one.

If you're going to use her end game, you should ignore jump and give her Holy Lance and Angel Earrings, and equip Devil Killer and possibly MP Attack for that sweet 9999 damage against everything in the final dungeon.

Because it's relatively easy to reach max damage with her at the end, and MP isn't a real limitation in this game, I don't consider Dragon's Crest useful outside of challenge runs. Grand Dragons make great levelling partners though.
 
I think that, in a regular playthrough, Freya is a disappointing party member.

First of all, she is female, and FFIX is a political game, so she has the lowest strength of all dedicated physical attackers in the game. She often falls behind on damage from Zidane, Steiner and Amarant. So why would we use her?

Jump actually sucks in this game. Unlike what Tantacles said, the fact it voids elemental and support effects from attacks is pretty bad. In FFIX, fighters should be equipped with killer abilities, and depending on occasion, MP Attack and take advantage of elemental alignment to boost damage from their physical hits. If Freya jumps, she voids all those effects for a sweet 1.5 damage increase that costs 2 turns to discharge, all the while eliminating a heavily armoured character and making the mages more prone to damage. 2 turns, 1.5 attack. It isn't even the default 2x damage from other games, which tends to be useless itself.

That could be worth it if like in some other games, Jump attacks avoided countering, but they don't in this one.

If you're going to use her end game, you should ignore jump and give her Holy Lance and Goddess Ring, and equip Devil Killer and possibly MP Attack for that sweet 9999 damage against everything in the final dungeon.

Because it's relatively easy to reach max damage with her at the end, and MP isn't a real limitation in this game, I don't consider Dragon's Crest useful outside of challenge runs. Grand Dragons make great levelling partners though.
But you forget the most important part

She is a cool mouse lady and Amarant is an ugly blue troll man
 
I think that, in a regular playthrough, Freya is a disappointing party member.

First of all, she is female, and FFIX is a political game, so she has the lowest strength of all dedicated physical attackers in the game. She often falls behind on damage from Zidane, Steiner and Amarant. So why would we use her?

Jump actually sucks in this game. Unlike what Tantacles said, the fact it voids elemental and support effects from attacks is pretty bad. In FFIX, fighters should be equipped with killer abilities, and depending on occasion, MP Attack and take advantage of elemental alignment to boost damage from their physical hits. If Freya jumps, she voids all those effects for a sweet 1.5 damage increase that costs 2 turns to discharge, all the while eliminating a heavily armoured character and making the mages more prone to damage. 2 turns, 1.5 attack. It isn't even the default 2x damage from other games, which tends to be useless itself.

That could be worth it if like in some other games, Jump attacks avoided countering, but they don't in this one.

If you're going to use her end game, you should ignore jump and give her Holy Lance and Angel Earrings, and equip Devil Killer and possibly MP Attack for that sweet 9999 damage against everything in the final dungeon.

Because it's relatively easy to reach max damage with her at the end, and MP isn't a real limitation in this game, I don't consider Dragon's Crest useful outside of challenge runs. Grand Dragons make great levelling partners though.
every character can reach max damage in the game. and most characters are disappointing in a regular run of any game. my final party the last time that i played through ff9 was zidane, garnet, vivi and eiko.
not a very balanced party.
the voiding elemental attacks means that if the enemy resists or absorbs that element, the enemy still takes damage. and eventually, if you kill 100 dragons with her, you wouldn't need to use jump at all with her. zidane has a similar attack which can also guarantee max damage and can be started on at the start of the game.
it's ultimately up to the player on who they want to use. and videos like this can help provide info to people who want to do a challenge run themselves. they will know what they are getting into.
also, what's with this sentence: "First of all, she is female, and FFIX is a political game, so she has the lowest strength of all dedicated physical attackers in the game. She often falls behind on damage from Zidane, Steiner and Amarant. So why would we use her?"
the first two bits don't have any relevancy. your point would have been better made with just her having lower strength than everyone else.
 
not according to that video. cid is the best according to that youtuber. he also said that the black mage from ff tactics id also the best black mage in the series. he also beat ff9 with just freya, quina, and garnet in solo runs of the game. he does a lot of ff content related stuff.
No i meant the BEST dragoon not only gameplay wise but everything else!

In this case it would be Gareth/Ricard from FF2 since you can max out characters stats in that game thanks to the stats level up mechanic the only drawback is
He dies by the end of the game
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I think that, in a regular playthrough, Freya is a disappointing party member.

First of all, she is female, and FFIX is a political game, so she has the lowest strength of all dedicated physical attackers in the game. She often falls behind on damage from Zidane, Steiner and Amarant. So why would we use her?

Jump actually sucks in this game. Unlike what Tantacles said, the fact it voids elemental and support effects from attacks is pretty bad. In FFIX, fighters should be equipped with killer abilities, and depending on occasion, MP Attack and take advantage of elemental alignment to boost damage from their physical hits. If Freya jumps, she voids all those effects for a sweet 1.5 damage increase that costs 2 turns to discharge, all the while eliminating a heavily armoured character and making the mages more prone to damage. 2 turns, 1.5 attack. It isn't even the default 2x damage from other games, which tends to be useless itself.

That could be worth it if like in some other games, Jump attacks avoided countering, but they don't in this one.

If you're going to use her end game, you should ignore jump and give her Holy Lance and Angel Earrings, and equip Devil Killer and possibly MP Attack for that sweet 9999 damage against everything in the final dungeon.

Because it's relatively easy to reach max damage with her at the end, and MP isn't a real limitation in this game, I don't consider Dragon's Crest useful outside of challenge runs. Grand Dragons make great levelling partners though.
I don't think about it that way dragoon characters tend to have lower strength than warrior characters like kain having lower damage and health than Cecil if i recall.

Dragoons are designed to fight using jump so being a little worse fighter is ok , my only problem with Freya and the whole game is you get to finally swap characters in disc 3 and they retain the level they had when they were in the party for Freya that's quite problematic because now you end up with level 18 character in disc 3 and that's what happened with me.

And the ability mechanic sorts of solves this problem with level up on and slayer perks equipped slayer perks being things like dragon killer etc she gets a lot better also she got dragon techniques i forgot it's actual name that one increases her usefulness too especially the AOE healing.

Now about amarant he may not be the most compelling character in the game but gameplay wise he is the MVP in boss fights his ability to instill auto resurrection got me through the ending boss.
 
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No i meant the BEST dragoon not only gameplay wise but everything else!

In this case it would be Gareth/Ricard from FF2 since you can max out characters stats in that game thanks to the stats level up mechanic
by that logic, in addition to anyone being able to use any weapon type, any playable character in the game can be a dragoon. so i declare maria as the best dragoon in the series.
 
by that logic, in addition to anyone being able to use any weapon type, any playable character in the game can be a dragoon. so i declare maria as the best dragoon in the series.
Nah Maria isn't wearing armor so she can't be dragoon i declare it fully haram to not be armored from head to toe as a dragoon
 
Nah Maria isn't wearing armor so she can't be dragoon i declare it fully haram to not be armored from head to toe as a dragoon
i'm pretty sure that you can deck her out in some heavy armor that resembles a dragoon. there is heavy armor in the game. my point still stands.
 

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