It was the original blueprint of SaGa , it also introduced Dragoons , Chocobos and Cid character into the series
Yeah I know that. Though it feels more like the Romancing SaGa games than the earlier SaGa games. I don't meant change it to be officially part of the SaGa series. I meant more mechanics wise. Update the leveling system to fall more in line with the Romancing SaGa games maybe add in weapon abilities and sparking. The world design in FF2 is straight up something out of the Romancing SaGa games. The way the world map's laid out, paying to travel between towns and generally the way the game feels is completely different than thr other nes Final Fantasy games.
Oh i thought you meant just fully rebrand it excuse my Zealotry it took over me for a second
what would you rather have for ff warriors
I've tried starting most of the versions of the game. I owned Dawn of Souls on GBA, I tried the psx version and the Famicom one and just never got far past the intro. It wasn't the gameplay that bothered me it seemed very story heavy and reminded me of FFIV and I just wasn't really into that. FFV's been my favourite in the series since I first played it so I always found FF1 and FF3 more appealing out of the first three games. I'm playing the Pixel remaster of FF2 and I have to say I prefer it to the Pixel Remaster of FF1. It still has some challenge to it. FF1 PR was way too easy. Like ridiculously easy without even really trying.
Honestly, I'm not sure why Frontier gets as much hype as it does. It's better than some of the weirder SaGa games like Unlimited and Frontier 2 but I think the Romancing SaGa games are better. They're also a lot closer to FF2 than Frontier. FF2 basically feels like an early Romancing SaGa game. Even down to the way the world map is laid out with the clustered towns, out of the way dungeons and pay to travel. The Romancing SaGa games were also more typical jrpg fantasy and didn't have the sci-fi stuff Frontier had.Honestly FF2 world and story and the whole setting had so much more potential way more than what i saw in SaGa frontier , it seems SaGa games focus a lot more on gameplay but I'm just judging based off the only SaGa i played which is frontier
Crossover, like the original Hyrule Warriors.
If FF2 is story heavy then Idk what to say......i have done my fair share of criticism towards how FF2 handles the world and characters but if anything it's a rough blueprint of upcoming better stories like FF4/FF6/FF7 , FF5 is a very well rounded game good story and likeable cast and pretty awesome gameplay only held back by the absurdly low XP monsters that prevent you from proper leveling past level 50
Does it? When i looked up frontier ratings the westerner critics didn't like it as much , i think the game offers somethings for everyone and the game dynamics are really good i started something of a review of SaGa frontier and I'm currently in part 2 with Riki just stay tuned for part 3 with T260
Ahh what a shame if that's true , wanted to play more SaGa games but hell.....if frontier took me 2 months to get through i wonder how long other SaGa games will take
that sounds like fun idea
SaGa not explaining? Yeah sounds like SaGa to me , using sites to play is for the weak i only know of a single strategy going into any game also called "Bravo 6 going blind"
Wasn't it Akitoshi Kawazu? I love his unconventional approach to games , even if it can be frustrating at times but he really sets himself apart from Hironobu Sakaguchi the genius behind Final Fantasy with SaGa and it's strange and unique systems hell have you heard SaGa frontier soundtrack? Kenji really did an amazing job
And they say Firion is one of Final Fantasy weakest protagonists yeah no he can master the art of the deadly punch and win like that , no other FF allows you to do this
No it's more I thought it was going to be based on the intro and never gave it a chance.
My first playthrough of the Romancing SaGa Minstrel SaGa remastwe was 35 hours by the time I finished the second playthrough I was up to 59 hours. So it's not a terribly long game.
People in the SaGa community regularly cite it as their favourite one. Though that could be one of those situations where it was the first one they played.
That's the best way to do it.
Yeah you're right my bad. I copied and pasted the wrong name lol.
Didn't played it yet
There's no need to do so , you just need to search for Lulu on GoogleDidn't played it yet
Thats pretty evil of you , they aren't the best FF but they got something for themselves
I find the intro pretty unique in having the player lose the 1st fight horribly and get rescued , there is also the PS1 intro which REALLY sets the game tone very well it's an awesome intro despite it's age
Hmmm i think my playthrough averaged with each character being around ~10 hours or more , T260 was around 8 or 9 hours and Lute around the same others like Blue went up to 12 hours and Emelia to 17 maybe with all 7 characters it probably goes up to 60 hours or more
Oh that's the case? I never go into fandoms anymore so i don't know what's the popular statement , thought Romancing SaGa games would be the more discussed games
Damn right and it's the only way
It was the ps1 version that I tried first. It's funny because the more I get into FF2 the more I'm enjoying the story, which is actually pretty similar to Romancing SaGa 3's with the whole rebellion against an evil ruler thing.
Minstrel Song has multiple characters as well but you don't need to play them all. It's a bit different than Frontier in that there's only one main story. Each of the characters has their own back stories, reasons for adventuring and starting location but it's mostly up to you what you do. The way the event rank system works each playthrough ends up becoming its own story depending on which quests you end up doing before you max out your event rank. There is a 'main quest' line you can follow as you choose that will go on as your event rank increases and change depending on how involved you are and the choices you make. Like there was an entire area of the map with its own quest chain and story arc I didn't even see on my first playthrough because I was doing other things.
The Romancing SaGa games were only relatively recently localized apart from the ps2 game, which I don't think was very popular when the ps2 was current and is somewhat divisive because jrpg players have an incessant need to do every single thing when they play through a game and the game is designed pretty much the complete opposite so that it's unpleasant, tedious and not fun to try and do every single thing in one play through. It's designed to be an adventure in a world that carries on around you. Real adventurers likely wouldn't do everything so why would you in the game? That's the mentality the game seems designed around which seems at odds with a lot of jrpg players because the event rank system locks you out of things if you don't do them at certain event ranks, which of course being SaGa, is obscured from the player which also seems to bother those same people.
I played the PS1 version too , it was so weird when i first started that i didn't get any "level ups" it wasn't until i fought the 10th battle or around that i came to realize that each stat levels up independently i was like "ohhhhhh ah yea now i understand" followed by a panic session in which i die to ghosts
I'm just gonna take this bit and scrap everything else a true SaGa player never explains anything
Ahh OK yeah i totally forgot that Frontier was the first offical SaGa game outside Japan so that makes sense......the "maxing out everything" mindset seems tedious in itself , i missed a shit ton of GFs in FF8 yet still had great and easily top 3 best FF games i played despite not getting Siren (if you know you know) it's a mindset that to me seems against the idea of fun , if I'm having fun and kicking ass and progressing through the game who cares if i max out everything? That's why you go in blind , it creates such a great first experience that you come back for more and more and more!!! Nothing like discovering cool things on your own when you do it during the "adventure" it feels like a memorable part of the adventure a chapter in the many chapters of the adventure it's like when i traveled the world of FF5 with Boco just to get the reward from that guy , i got mirage armor which is pretty cool it felt rewarding and an accomplishment , i think that's the essence of SaGa going out of your comfort zone and discovering things on your own
For as much as confusing and disjointed Frontier world feels , each region got a vibe you know? They did an amazing job on the zones graphics and vibes , speaking of Frontier graphics i like it's colorful graphics
Are you talking about the random empty rooms?
Don't worry, everything I wrote is about the only part of the game that's actually directly told to you.
If you're ok with that you might enjoy Minstrel Song more than Frontier.
Yeah the graphics in Frontier are nice and it definitely has a vibe I just didn't find it very cohesive.
I didn't find the gameplay with Emelia too difficult the other party members make up for her shortfall in stats.
Minstrel Song basically takes all that and amps it up even more.
The ones with every step being a random encounter , and further add salt to injury when you enter it sets you 2 steps away from the door , AND even worse some rooms contain treasure but they are so rare so you keep checking every rooms for booty but 99% of the time get ambushed.....
That was a SaGa joke!!!
Gimme a break from SaGa
True she does get better as time goes on but that initial phase
Yeah ok. I thought those were the rooms you were talking about. Yeah getting placed in the middle of them is annoying for sure.
Never. I'll never stop trying to shill the series.Gimme a break from SaGa
By the time I played Frontier it was my third SaGa game so I was already kind of used to that brutal beginning phase where you know nothing and everything is dangerous.True she does get better as time goes on but that initial phase
A SaGa shill? Oh that's not even an insult , it's legit an honor
Those damn beginnings......
I figured the game became a lot easier after taking the flame thing , that castle was the threshold of difficulty i didn't use much protective magic though so
, but i did use berserk and more offensive spellsYeah Minwu kicks ass he has some pretty high spirit too , and bosses being disappointing well get used to it that's most of this game bosses
Yeah FF2 had many experimental ideas the keyword system is one of those that were pretty cool but never made it past this game , know that party members that leave will take their equipment with them so the 4th character slot is always 50/50 of them dying or going missing or something so keep an eye on that
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