Your takes on AI art

[Antilocal123]

Y’all can't we all just get along? Think of some religious figure!

There, I solved everything, I await a solution by the end of the day.

 

[Ume]

AI art takes away from the real artist. Even in some cases stealing art from others and morphing it into some other shit. Anyone can get on a AI generator and make "art" then throw it out there as it being their own. I am a artist myself, I really hate it and do not support!

 

[SleepyRyGuy]

It's not okay to have differing opinions on the internet. I call Shenanigans

 

[miguk]

"But couldn't you do the same thing with Vocaloid?" Yes

Y’all can't we all just get along? Think of some religious figure!

 

[Big Finger Jim]

People who open a patreon for their ai "art" should be flung into the outermost layers of the atmosphere. Fucking shameless.

 

[Lee__Kanker]

I already dont like it when cartoons are colored digitally and how physical ink pencil and paint on paper is nieche online, so you can imagine my opinion on ai art

for disposable yt thumbnails it's fine

 

[miguk]

Now that this has Commes des Fuckdown a bit, I'll give my take.

I think we're too late to put the genie back in the bottle. For-profit public traded corporations will never not seek the cheapest way to exclude or devalue human resources. This is the nature of the profit model. They will use AI regardless of the drawbacks so long as it's cheaper than human labor and does good enough (which is the level of value they have for their products).

So we are stuck working towards figuring out how to proceed with this technology as part of life. For one, we need more sustainable energy sources, as AI uses an insane amount of it and needs to be kept from destroying the world. And we'll need regulations in place to stop it from taking more energy than it should reasonably use. These will not be easy things to achieve.

Furthermore, there's the economic problem. Ideally, art should not need to be financed, but realistically, it does. AI could be used as a supplement to artists for now, but we know it'll become a replacement in the long run. And that's not just for artists; ultimately, at least 90% of labor could be replaced with AI and/or robots. So we'll need to start off with regulations to keep the economy from collapsing, and then later on we'll need a whole new economic model.

As I said before Fully Automated Luxury Communism is the best new model proposed so far for the long run. There's also Universal Basic Income, which could be a part of FALC, but it is possible for malicious actors to abuse it to harm the public. (Note that a lot of malicious m/billionaires have claimed to support it, including some who want it to replace all social services. This would be a disaster.) Aside from those, no other plan has been suggested, but it's agreed by economists (left and right) that if nothing is done to change the economy, we could face economic collapse.

As for its value in art, that is subjective. Many AI works could be fixed up with Photoshop, GIMP, or other tools. Like I said, it's possible for it to be used by artists themselves. And while there's plenty of it that's bad, it's getting better over time, and it's not always bad for everything. (Certain anime-centered websites actually have better artwork from the AI artists now than from the hand-drawing artists.) And honestly, the R34 stuff is probably creating more jobs than taking them, so at least that part of the creative industry will do fine. (It's weird how the sex industry has been the only big independent growth industry in the last decade or so.) But hopefully we'll get past the technological inept gerontocracy soon enough to avoid turning ourselves into a bunch of sex workers.

 

[GardeniaSky]

I feel like a big part of the issue is that people just parrot what they hear online without actually educating themselves. They see Gen AI and go 'HISSSSSS BADDDD' without actually knowing what it is and what it's capable of.

I disagree with it being used to replace humans. I don't disagree with its existence.

 

[Nebulon_Galaxy]

Its hard for me to find references unless i go back in time on google search, even Pinterest is unhospitable. I hate it.

 

[BigTony]

I know artists hate to hear it, but people care about the result, not the process. I love when a movie is shot on film it looks better and requires a lot more skill but I also know that most people don't care. Digital cameras and film simulations have improved so much that it's financially irresponsible to shoot a movie on film. That’s not to say it should never be done, but it’s unreasonable to expect everyone to switch back.

Like digital cameras, AI has made many tasks that were once difficult and time-consuming trivial. I believe AI is best used as a tool to aid artists, not replace them.

 

[Patches]

To me its nothing more than a new brush with a different stroke. Art isn't supposed to be about whether or not someone copied your art and even if it were that would be the highest compliment, no? I genuinely think the loudest voices on the matter spend more time finding things to be outraged over than making any art. Even art that I find that says "do not share" on it gets shared, but I never see those artist's get very up in arms about it.

 

[YoshifreakZX]

A plague that screws over artists and invades Google Image results.

 

[sysuah]

I think of AI as another means to help get art or whatever hobby it is to the wider masses, it won't replace anyone or thing. I dont know how to say it, it's similar to when people were afraid that photography will make painting obsolete to which isn't true and that the two of these become it's very own niche and has its own following

OP wasn't wrong with that AI art is a plague that it's everywhere noew
It's something that's bound to happen one way or the other as technology advances

And this is clearly much more appealing both the average non-art savvy individuals and businesses to go for since it's much cheaper for to go to an AI site somewhere and have an AI generate a bunch of art for you without losing a dime to entitled "artists" that either takes forever to finish a commission when they have too much on their hand already or they overcharge and grandstand to you, and the downside of using AI is in the name. it's artificial, won't be as good or have the details as a piece done by actual talented artists but it'll do the job
this ratlobber tweet summarise it best

 

[Antilocal123]

Oh hey this dull thread is still up.

I don't know, I feel like AI was inevitable, it really makes me want to say aI told you so!

You could see it as an AI-volution! An AIye for an eye! It’s AImazingg! AI-scream for the future!

I got all day folks.

 

[Cheela]

it makes searching for good hentai even more annoying. i said it!

But other than that, i think it really looks ugly in many cases, and the use of AI in General have not been soo great or smooth like people tell you all the time. Is like coding or writing. The amounts of times i have to discuss with my sister because she believed some bullshit the AI told her had really worsened our already fragile relationship and the same is happening with my Friends.

To be honest i really want to go back in time when all this shit didn't exist.

 

[TheWanderer]

Well is it art or not ?is something I really don't care about ,but I like how it can make some of my visions come true even tho I'm not good at drawing

 

[DragonMals]

AI Art is good for using it as a reference tool for drawing something. Other than that, any use of AI art is cruel and everyone should stick to using references of other people's art, such as the art featured in video games, media, or even your friends'.

 

[kuroninneko]

One argument that pro gen-AI people like to bring up is that it decentralizes art. I do not think this is true. Art was already decentralized but now big companies are feeding all the art (with or without consent) into a big database that trains their AI. To me that sounds like the opposite of decentralized.

Also one big thing about AI art is large corporations control what you can and can not create. I was messing around with an AI music editor for laughs but specific words will trigger an error message. Do you really want your creativity or game to be limited by the whims of big corporations or by the limits of the software?

 

[GardeniaSky]

One argument that pro gen-AI people like to bring up is that it decentralizes art. I do not think this is true. Art was already decentralized but now big companies are feeding all the art (with or without consent) into a big database that trains their AI. To me that sounds like the opposite of decentralized.

Also one big thing about AI art is large corporations control what you can and can not create. I was messing around with an AI music editor for laughs but specific words will trigger an error message. Do you really want your creativity or game to be limited by the whims of big corporations or by the limits of the software?

You can always generate locally with freeware/shareware builds. That will always be an option, with the only limitations being your knowledge on how it works/how to run it.

There is a massive issue on the corpo side in centralizing all media, though. That's a vary valid issue. Again, the issue comes from bigwigs improperly using the tool.

 

[Jeanfranc]