Which is better, GOG or the Epic Games Store?

[vulonkaaz's iconvulonkaaz]

clearly you don´t know how to take care of games also never heard of game ripping and NAS. I have games that still works on media that´s probably older than you.

i know how to copy a disc

most physical games have DRMs made to make the copies unlaunchable unless it's cracked (often they actually make the games unlaunchable at all but that's another story)
if we don't mind cracking steam games aren't much harder to preserve than physical games

 

[Leon]

clearly never heard of disk rot

(gog games are meant to be downloaded copied and stored offline)

If your making your own, that's what M-Disc's are for, they can in theory last up to 1000 years but in practice say 100.

 

[VampireLord1024VampireLord1024's icon]

The Grocery Store but no I honestly don't know which is better between GOG or Epic Games Store; probably different from person to person on which they think is better based on maybe how they like the sites or something.

 

[Ikagura]

In fact having a DRM free game on a hard drive is technically much more future-proof than needing a physical disc with an install program inside.

You can copy/cut/paste any file from them.

This is how I basically can technically make Doom forever by having a folder with a basic sourceport into several USB drive.

 

[Ikagura]

yeah so what´s your argument ?? Can stand people that like physical media or something like what´s you issue what´s your beef. Question was asked gog or steam or epic I said cd and dvd so what´s your point?

Let's not have a conflict in this simple topic.

But I think that when there's choice A and choice B I don't get why there's a C.

 

[vulonkaaz's iconvulonkaaz]

If your making your own, that's what M-Disc's are for, they can in theory last up to 1000 years but in practice say 100.

yea I have some M-Discs, I wouldn't bet my life on them tho idk how much of their claims is actually trustable seem like opaque marketing mostly (and apparently they changed the way m-discs are made nowadays, some says that every blu ray is as durable as m-disc cause it's inorganic or something)

got a few discs and disc label paper and stuff will make my own physical copies of stuff just for the vibe mostly, as those have basically disappeared nowadays

GOG should make like physical releases one day it would have a vibe, they could make it print on demand so that they don't lose too much money if it flops, sell those at a premium like it's a special edition or something people would pay for that

Think first talk second. I know im an Asshole and people here dislike me but why pick pointless fights and arguments ?

i wasn't picking up a fight just saying stuff the way i usually do then you got mad about it

 

[_oBSOLEte_]

If your making your own, that's what M-Disc's are for, they can in theory last up to 1000 years but in practice say 100.

That's just marketing you should read the disclaimer in fine prints. If you need to store your stuff in a lead safe hermetically sealed 20 meters below ground, it's not proper archive.

 

[Leon]

That's just marketing you should read the disclaimer in fine prints. If you need to store your stuff in a lead safe hermetically sealed 20 meters below ground, it's not proper archive.

Well to be fair, that's true of all archival technology that's digital, since none of it is made to last forever, when we get diamond recording tools maybe then but currently that's just the way it is.

Right now if you want to be extra safe i always have 3 archived copies, 1 physical, one on my main system and 1 on a external HDD (and it must be HDD, ssd's can lose data due to electron failure).

 

[Zeblackcat]

For choice A or B, I pick GoG hands down every day.
People called me mad when I said Epic were going to have all the user data leaked months in advanced, and then I got an e-mail saying my user data was leaked. Go figure.

In general, I'd like to pick GoG over steam as well, unless it's workshop is particularly well supported for mods. Or it doesn't contain crossplay for multiplayer, or... just outright isn't available on GoG.

Plus I really appreciate their support. I remember messaging them about a refund, because Steam's workshop was just invaluable for Rimworld. But they declined it at the time, I forgot for what reason exactly. I told them I must've been confused, and thought there would be a refund policy if; You played less than X hours, or refunded within a certain time period. Basically quoting the Steam refund policy.

And sure enough, they actually agreed with me and honored my refund. And the next day made an announcement on their homepage revising the refund policy.

So I can only say, A+ customer service experience right there.

 

[_oBSOLEte_]

Well to be fair, that's true of all archival technology that's digital, since none of it is made to last forever, when we get diamond recording tools maybe then but currently that's just the way it is.

Right now if you want to be extra safe i always have 3 archived copies, 1 physical, one on my main system and 1 on a external HDD (and it must be HDD, ssd's can lose data due to electron failure).

As of now with state of the art archival technologies, no one can guarantee data integrity for more than 20 years. Keyword here is "guarantee", as in "contractual obligation". That means weekly full backups on LTO tapes or the likes and redundant systems to read them.

Maybe some guys here still have a few floppy disks and the drives to read them, but that's the exception. Personally I have killed the last ones I got just trying to read them. Same thing with optical disks. I collect them but I don't use them anymore, they're too fragile. It's not a proper archive it's a glorified stamp collection.

Preservation always meant duplicating data. That's why GOG is bad. They forced abandonware sites to erase their contents, so they could put all the eggs in one basket and make money by making cheap installers for Dosbox. It's the lesser evil because they don't dare to put DRM back on games people already cracked.

 

[RageBurner]

EGS merits its existence upon freebies, really. Despite all gaming outlets essentially operating on the same legal bases, GoG feels more end user friendly on the whole.

 

[Zeblackcat]

EGS merits its existence upon freebies, really. Despite all gaming outlets essentially operating on the same legal bases, GoG feels more end user friendly on the whole.

I hold my scepticism due to it's owner and surrounding circumstances. Though I could just sum it up with;

If you're not paying for a product, then you are the product.

 

[AnonymousCookieMonster]

A reminder, while GoG is superior in regards to not requiring a client and you can backup your games, you are still only purchasing a license. You have no rights and your game can be removed from your library, or you can be banned at any time, for pretty much any reason.

 

[Leon]

I hold my scepticism due to it's owner and surrounding circumstances. Though I could just sum it up with;

If you're not paying for a product, then you are the product.

I mean i agree, but unless your gonna go full piracy there's not really a better way to get modern games than gog if they get them.

 

[marky]

I will always support GOG because the games are DRM-free, they adapt old games to modern Windows, you can download a copy of the purchased game to your hard drive and GOG is a Polish platform

But Epic is a great place to be when it comes to free games and is slowly evolving in terms of its user interface and its capabilities. They've already got archivments, once they add mod support it'll be perfect.

 

[Denmdm]

I will always support GOG because the games are DRM-free, they adapt old games to modern Windows, you can download a copy of the purchased game to your hard drive and GOG is a Polish platform

But Epic is a great place to be when it comes to free games and is slowly evolving in terms of its user interface and its capabilities. They've already got archivments, once they add mod support it'll be perfect.

Well, the only thing you can't find elsewhere are the free games... Achievements and mod support? Both steam and gog have them already, and based on catalogue, customer service and prices, I'd say GOG mops the floor with Epic. Don't tryna argue here, just making clear my position for the 4rt time cuz I love gog lmao

 

[Graves Ruinwalker]

GoG is way much better .

- The old games that they try to make it work again
- Alot of unknown but underrated gems of old and new
- Has often some games cheaper than on Epic game store and even steam .
- DRM-free install.exe for preservation-sake

EGS is only good for free games and thats it . If they still do their free games thing .

 

[fmsynthetic]

A reminder, while GoG is superior in regards to not requiring a client and you can backup your games, you are still only purchasing a license. You have no rights and your game can be removed from your library, or you can be banned at any time, for pretty much any reason.

'You can backup your games'

Why are you saying that like it doesn't leave any other system light years behind?

 

[AnonymousCookieMonster]

'You can backup your games'

Why are you saying that like it doesn't leave any other system light years behind?

Because you still can't sell/buy copies second hand, you don't own it, and if copyright is anything to go buy, you can't sell a burned copy either (and aren't suppose to share or loan either); Unless those $200,000 fine warnings at the beginning of VHS and DVD's are anything to go by, or the MIAA or MPAA (and Nintendo) lawsuits are anything to go by.

You literally have a receipt, and that is in the form of an email and a line in a database somewhere. They can ban you and deny you access to your account, and if they decide to go Poof because CDPR goes bankrupt or they decide they aren't making enough money, you got a wad of emails that say you once put money into a system with no guarantees of your ownership of diddly squat.

I'll repeat. 'YOU PAID FOR A LICENSE' (aka access). To us we buy games, not licenses. But that's not how the system sees it. And the moment you disagree with the updated terms or reality hits, you won't like it. Better hope you have everything downloaded that you actually care about.

This is still in the vein of 'You will own nothing, and you will be happy'. Just because they unshackle one of your limbs doesn't remove the shackle around your neck in this case. I suggest refusing to put anything into the system until they fix the ownership rights and the system. Otherwise there's only disappointment.

 

[_oBSOLEte_]

Ngl, seems pretty ironic that people are arguing about GOG vs Epic on the CDRomance forum. You'd never see a thread about "which ROM site is your fav" in the Steam discussions. XD

 

[thanonyx]

OK, OK, let's all settle down before I contact a mod to lock the thread.

 

[vulonkaaz's iconvulonkaaz]

Ngl, seems pretty ironic that people are arguing about GOG vs Epic on the CDRomance forum. You'd never see a thread about "which ROM site is your fav" in the Steam discussions. XD

yea pretty fun seeing people say that we "can't" resell gog games that we're only buying a "license" and stuff on a piracy website


we own EVERYTHING and we are happy

 

[Ikagura]

'You can backup your games'

Why are you saying that like it doesn't leave any other system light years behind?

You can technically do backups of anything physical.

 

[fmsynthetic]

You can technically do backups of anything physical.

We're not really talking about physical media though

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Because you still can't sell/buy copies second hand, you don't own it, and if copyright is anything to go buy, you can't sell a burned copy either (and aren't suppose to share or loan either); Unless those $200,000 fine warnings at the beginning of VHS and DVD's are anything to go by, or the MIAA or MPAA (and Nintendo) lawsuits are anything to go by.

You literally have a receipt, and that is in the form of an email and a line in a database somewhere. They can ban you and deny you access to your account, and if they decide to go Poof because CDPR goes bankrupt or they decide they aren't making enough money, you got a wad of emails that say you once put money into a system with no guarantees of your ownership of diddly squat.

I'll repeat. 'YOU PAID FOR A LICENSE' (aka access). To us we buy games, not licenses. But that's not how the system sees it. And the moment you disagree with the updated terms or reality hits, you won't like it. Better hope you have everything downloaded that you actually care about.

This is still in the vein of 'You will own nothing, and you will be happy'. Just because they unshackle one of your limbs doesn't remove the shackle around your neck in this case. I suggest refusing to put anything into the system until they fix the ownership rights and the system. Otherwise there's only disappointment.

Physical media would definitely be preferable, but we're like 15 years out of that being a thing bro

 

[Denmdm]

I just wish GOG re-released the 3d GTA era DRM-free and moddable and actually playable unlike the stuff at Rockstar Games Launcher