PC To the people still on windows 10 why?

[Kovlak]

1 - Windows 11 is a dumpster fire;
2 - Have Windows 10 customized to my needs;
3 - Still have 7+ months of official Windows 10 support;
4 - Waiting to see how different Linux distros will deal with the political push for the input of a government id to install them;
5 - I have some Windows games that I want to play.

I also have downloaded a Linux distro already to install if generally Linux and other OSs broadly adopt the need for a governmental id to install worldwide.

 

[BigTony]

Adobe software and VR games are keeping me on Windows

 

[Xdqwerty Xdqwerty]

I dont even use it, I'm on 8.1

 

[Mopeybloke]

Nowadays, you can get computers that run Windows 10 smoothly for 50-60€. Why to be stuck with one system?

That isn't true everywhere. I bet many here live in lower income countries without the wealth of used PCs lying around making for that cheap used market.

Windows 7 PC: IT JUST WORKS
Windows 10 Notebook: IT JUST WORKS

Windows 11 also just works. Just in case you ever switch. It also has bugs, which is nothing too new for Windows. However, updates seem to be breaking things as often as improving them nowadays.
I haven't had any real issues with it since I started using it about 3 years ago.

 

[Aldia Aldia]

Nowadays, you can get computers that run Windows 10 smoothly for 50-60€. Why to be stuck with one system?

That's about 362 BRL. The cheapest thing you could get here with that price would be a super old netbook with an intel atom chip.

 

[nobitakun]

That isn't true everywhere. I bet many here live in lower income countries without the wealth of used PCs lying around making for that cheap used market.

Windows 11 also just works. Just in case you ever switch. It also has bugs, which is nothing too new for Windows. However, updates seem to be breaking things as often as improving them nowadays.
I haven't had any real issues with it since I started using it about 3 years ago.

That's why I said most of us. The comment also included teenagers who do not work, hence they can't buy computers so easily, even if they cost cheap second hand. But anyways, this is a statement that has little meaning, because if we had to say things like these, thinking about the worst possible scenario a person could have, then we wouldn't be talking about videogames at all. I am well aware of the prices of computers in the not so favorable countries, but not like they are expensive but because their salaries are low, and there is nothing I can do to change that. My comment aimed for the average, not to the poor, not to the rich.

That's about 362 BRL. The cheapest thing you could get here with that price would be a super old netbook with an intel atom chip.

Not true. You can get tons of computers way better than Atom for that price. And those computers can run Windows 10 very fast. You just have to go OLX and check how many computers you can get for 300-400 BRL that are Intel i3. An i3 4th generation paired with 8GB RAM and SSD can simply run Windows 10 smoothly for daily basics without any issue, as well as Linux.

And salaries in Brazil average for over 3000 BRL monthly, of course that is usually not what people get, specially in rural areas, but the minimum wage is around 1600 BRL. Later you can tell me that people do not have enough money for daily living with that salary, so they can't afford to spend 300 BRL in a computer, but that happens in every country in the world, what I want to state is that an average person with an average life and average salary can spend that amount on a computer in Brazil.

 

[petran79]

If you have an old Gpu with dropped support like gtx 10xx series, there is no reason to go to Win11

 

[extermist]

I already have machines on Windows 11 (a nessesary evil), so given that I'm already on what I consider to be the worst option, I don't care if I have other devices on whatever OS.
I've been on linux before, been jumping back and forth and honestly I don't care anymore.

 

[Leon]

On linux but i can tell you the main reason a few of my friends have and it's mostly stuff that requires secure boot like online anti-cheat's, yes win 11 can do secure boot too but people who can, stick with 10 until they can't because 11 is so much worse.

That said if your a single player gamer there's really no reason to stay on windows anymore unless you want to wait for nvidia to improve their linux drivers more (they still work fine but you do lose a bit of performance on linux under nvidia as their linux drivers aren't as good as their windows ones), otherwise for everything else, unless you have a rare piece of hardware that MUST have windows, there's no real need to use it.

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4 - Waiting to see how different Linux distros will deal with the political push for the input of a government id to install them;
5 - I have some Windows games that I want to play.

I also have downloaded a Linux distro already to install if generally Linux and other OSs broadly adopt the need for a governmental id to install worldwide.

Some have basically said pound sand, some are outside the us thus avoid jurisdictional lockdowns like garuda linux and cachyos provided they choose to do so, and midnightBSD,omarchy linux and adenix have stated outright they will not implement it, the only one that has said outright they will is ubuntu, with linux mint seemingly atm to be leaning against it and system76/pop os seemingly trying to get the lawmakers to change the provisions to exclude linux (the law itself seems to be aimed at paid app stores, since linux is well, open source and thus has no actual pay system for stuff like that, it's legality even under this law is highly questionable, fyi this law would be struck down 5 seconds if it was actually looked at in court).

 

[null_exe]

I gave linux multiple tries using a couple different distros over the years and just found it to be less convenient and a lot more confusing. For general use it was fine but once I started messing around with different more niche programs and stuff it just got confusing. Sometimes stuff would only listed install instructions for Arch Linux and the build I used was debian so I was kind of out of luck on that. When I tried using Arch Linux I started running into the opposite issue, some apps would only list debian install instructions.

I've already put in the work to disable a bunch of the annoying bloatware with Windows 10 and I already what I'm doing on there.

I don't see the point in taking the time and effort to really learn Linux and use it as my main OS when I'm still gonna have to dual boot and keep windows installed if I wanna play games that use easy anticheat.

I've got my steam deck and I do use Linux mint on an old laptop I use for general web browsing and VLC but that's about as deep as I'm willing to really go. For now at least.

 

[Leon]

I gave linux multiple tries using a couple different distros over the years and just found it to be less convenient and a lot more confusing. For general use it was fine but once I started messing around with different more niche programs and stuff it just got confusing. Sometimes stuff would only listed install instructions for Arch Linux and the build I used was debian so I was kind of out of luck on that. When I tried using Arch Linux I started running into the opposite issue, some apps would only list debian install instructions.

I've already put in the work to disable a bunch of the annoying bloatware with Windows 10 and I already what I'm doing on there.

I don't see the point in taking the time and effort to really learn Linux and use it as my main OS when I'm still gonna have to dual boot and keep windows installed if I wanna play games that use easy anticheat.

I've got my steam deck and I do use Linux mint on an old laptop I use for general web browsing and VLC but that's about as deep as I'm willing to really go. For now at least.

Your talking about AUR and .deb stuff, .deb is just flatpak usually and if you have a flatpak resolver you can install them on arch based distros, or just use applimages if you want a portable executable, personally i usually use the discover store for the rare flatpak i want to install on my garuda (arch based) linux.

ALL packages will work on linux, even aur if you hack it in will work on debian, though i'd suggest not using it that way as it likely would break if the release isn't bleeding edge (i'll explain later).

I'll be honest, alot of what your talking about also put me off of linux for nearly a decade, i'd try every year or so, get annoyed by something and quit, until i finally jumped at the end of 2024.

The main thing to keep in mind is that arch, debian and fedora are all essentially just updater cycles of linux that most linux versions use, as such anything that works on one will work on another and vice versa if you install the proper libraries, flatpak and applimages work on all versions of linux, even gentoo which is a version not of the big 3, the aur can also be configured to work on other distros but the aur uses the bleeding edge update schedule while debian and fedora/red hat use more long term schedules relatively, which is why it's generally not recommended to use AUR packages on non arch based distros, they are less likely to work as the programs are updated with the newest features such as kernel changes and code updates.

The biggest hurdle i had when it came to linux is understanding that all these linux "os" like mint, garuda, ubuntu, omarchy, endeavor, bazzite etc, are all just 1 os, linux, built with some programming tools pre-installed to make the user experience simpler and easier, they aren't operating systems in themselves but just linux versions built with specific functionalities in mind.

If you ever want to try again, i'd suggest just asking in the pc gaming section, there's quite a few of us who went through what you did with linux and can give you pointers if you have trouble, linux is pretty simple to use, but it's confusing because of how many options and false information is out there.

 

[PhaseJump]

The latest distro that climbed to the top of popularity and became a big deal in Linux is CachyOS.

It's based on Arch, it's easier to use, and it's selling point is that everything gets compiled specifically tuned for your hardware so you get better performance.

 

[MarqueeMoon]

Not going to sugarcoat it - I honestly truly believe that Linux is just the superior option in 2026 for most (not all, but most) use-cases. And I really don't think it's particularly close anymore.

- Much better privacy and security. Linux isn't tracking your every mouse click, keylogging your every input, and hoarding all of your personal data like Microsoft is on Windows systems.

- Due to the nature of FOSS, and Linux not actually being any sort of for-profit company or anything, Linux is rather well-protected from enshittification (although the American government is currently trying their hardest to stress test this with the age verification crap). This manifests in multiple self-evident ways though - No advertisements cluttered throughout the OS menu, no OneDrive shenanigans, no microsoft copilot AI slop. It's just a simple and clean interface of your choosing that only does what you want it to do, what you tell it to do, and nothing more.

- Much less resource intensive. No random/invasive background programs eating up a chunk of your computer's power, only the programs that are strictly necessary to a functioning computer are running.

- User choice and user freedom. You put the power back in your own hands. Windows has so many artificial limitations with what it allows you to do, with how it (doesn't) allows you to customize and personalize it. In Linux the world is pretty much your oyster. This bullet point is a bit more subjective, but to me it's also one of the more important ones. Linux puts you back in control of your computer, and it actually is YOUR computer again. Not a computer that feels like Microsoft is just licensing off to you, forcing you to play by many of their rules.

- Obviously this is a gaming forum, and honestly, gaming is pretty much a solved problem on Linux at this point. It's really just simply not an issue anymore unless you care about multiplayer titles that run highly invasive anticheat systems. And maybe I'm wrong, but something tells me the community here probably isn't generally interested in shit like Fortnite or Valorant, lol. If you do care about modern multiplayer games though, then yeah, that is still an issue for sure. But for single player titles, retro gaming, and emulation, Linux pretty much has complete parity with Windows now. Sometimes it's even better, due to some of the aforementioned bullet points, like how less resource usage can potentially correlate to higher performance in games since there's more of it to go around.

I do understand that it's different from what most people are used to and that it can be a learning curve getting used to how Linux works and everything, but I think the pros just massively outweigh that con.

 

[DanCalibur]

Not going to sugarcoat it - I honestly truly believe that Linux is just the superior option in 2026 for most (not all, but most) use-cases. And I really don't think it's particularly close anymore.

- Much better privacy and security. Linux isn't tracking your every mouse click, keylogging your every input, and hoarding all of your personal data like Microsoft is on Windows systems.

- Due to the nature of FOSS, and Linux not actually being any sort of for-profit company or anything, Linux is rather well-protected from enshittification (although the American government is currently trying their hardest to stress test this with the age verification crap). This manifests in multiple self-evident ways though - No advertisements cluttered throughout the OS menu, no OneDrive shenanigans, no microsoft copilot AI slop. It's just a simple and clean interface of your choosing that only does what you want it to do, what you tell it to do, and nothing more.

- Much less resource intensive. No random/invasive background programs eating up a chunk of your computer's power, only the programs that are strictly necessary to a functioning computer are running.

- User choice and user freedom. You put the power back in your own hands. Windows has so many artificial limitations with what it allows you to do, with how it (doesn't) allows you to customize and personalize it. In Linux the world is pretty much your oyster. This bullet point is a bit more subjective, but to me it's also one of the more important ones. Linux puts you back in control of your computer, and it actually is YOUR computer again. Not a computer that feels like Microsoft is just licensing off to you, forcing you to play by many of their rules.

- Obviously this is a gaming forum, and honestly, gaming is pretty much a solved problem on Linux at this point. It's really just simply not an issue anymore unless you care about multiplayer titles that run highly invasive anticheat systems. And maybe I'm wrong, but something tells me the community here probably isn't generally interested in shit like Fortnite or Valorant, lol. If you do care about modern multiplayer games though, then yeah, that is still an issue for sure. But for single player titles, retro gaming, and emulation, Linux pretty much has complete parity with Windows now. Sometimes it's even better, due to some of the aforementioned bullet points, like how less resource usage can potentially correlate to higher performance in games since there's more of it to go around.

I do understand that it's different from what most people are used to and that it can be a learning curve getting used to how Linux works and everything, but I think the pros just massively outweigh that con.

An age verification law went effective in Brazil this week, the results so far: Linux is basically illegal now, YouTube gameplay channels with Resident Evil or similar games (that's most of them) are being flagged as improper content and loosing revenue, League of Legends is now 18+ only, underage cyber athletes are out of a job and Rockstar Games has left the country. It is what you call a clustefuck.

 

[PhaseJump]

An age verification law went effective in Brazil this week, the results so far: Linux is basically illegal now, YouTube gameplay channels with Resident Evil or similar games (that's most of them) are being flagged as improper content and loosing revenue, League of Legends is now 18+ only, underage cyber athletes are out of a job and Rockstar Games has left the country. It is what you call a clustefuck.

Linux reddit mods are banning people for asking about it.

System76 is doing it now too, apparently.

 

[Leon]

Linux reddit mods are banning people for asking about it.

System76 is doing it now too, apparently.

The problem in the us is that it's literally illegal for the government to do this, as it's a clear breach of the 1st, 4th and 5th ammendments of the US constitution, the problem is people have to actually challenge it and besides a few distros that have gone on record saying they won't comply, some of the more popular ones, namely ubuntu, system 76's pop os and signs are red hat/fedora will be implementing this soon.
A law to push this in texas was struck down at the lower court level if i remember right.

 

[Burzuru Burzuru]

win 11 constantly hear about another update being bugged, so im just not going to bother with that.
linux im too lazy to install.

 

[Deleted member 924886]

I was also a Windows 10 user for many years. I was forced to switch to Windows 11 because Microsoft was just being annoying. But I'm satisfied now and it works reasonably well.