PC To the people still on windows 10 why?

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So before I start this conversation im aware ALOT of PCs dont have TPM, i get that, my main question is if windows 11 isn't an option, why stay with windows 10, why not go with Linux? Asking because i just recently made the switch to linux from windows 11, Ive been wanting to for a while the only thing that was stopping me was FL studios and playnite, I decided to run FL via WINE and ditch playnite for now (although excited to hear about possible late 2026 linux build of playnite). So my question is for W10 users, whats holding you there, whats stopping you from moving on to linux or upgrading for w11?
 
i am still on windows 8.1 - i had the option to upgrade to windows 10 for free but i left it too long and the offer went away. i ain't great when it comes to tech so i don't know much about Linux. someday i will get a new laptop as this one is nearly 13 years old (still works fine)
 
I can't give my reasons to someone who didn't do an introduction post first. How do I know you're not a cop. Or a spy.
Could be playing the long con, waiting like 14 months to post something :loldog

Honestly, my patience for figuring out new technology is very low. I hear great things about Linux, but the idea of figuring it out and getting it working stresses me out before I've even tried ::sailor-embarrassed
 
I can't give my reasons to someone who didn't do an introduction post first. How do I know you're not a cop. Or a spy.
i just tried making one after this comment, cant post for another 40 mins. lol i thought i did when i made the account, guess not
 
My reasons to avoid change:

1 - Win11 is a WASTE of resources, i remember when a site reported it had only a 15% improvement of performance over Win10 while spending FOUR GIGABYTES OF RAM instead of just 1 GB like Win10.

2 - I wont use linux because most of stuff are on windows and i dont like UNIX interface.
 
Honestly, my patience for figuring out new technology is very low. I hear great things about Linux, but the idea of figuring it out and getting it working stresses me out before I've even tried ::sailor-embarrassed
I had the same issue, linux is very much overwhelming, I dipped my toes in the water with an old optiplex, the machine was crying running windows 11, so i switch to linux mint and man it feels blazing fast, with a few months getting comfortable with it i decided to plunge into the deepend with my gaming PC, I wanted to go Arch but i didnt want to do all the hard stuff lol, So im on endeavourOS and it has been great so far. I wil say if you are scared of linux from a technical stand point, youre scared of the terminal, I was too, but what kept me going was the excellent documentation, any issue ive had has been easily googleable, I'm not saying its an easy journey but its hard to get lost, does that make sense?
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i dont like UNIX interface.
could you clarify on that bit, what about unix interfaces dont you like?
 
I can't give my reasons to someone who didn't do an introduction post first. How do I know you're not a cop. Or a spy.
:loldog A good point, but law enforcement or a spy would discourage linux use, so I'm not that suspicious... That said, op still did leave upgrading to w11 on the table, so it could be a trick as I wouldn't doubt w11 has even more surveillance/backdoors built in than w10 ::thinking
My reasons to avoid change:

1 - Win11 is a WASTE of resources, i remember when a site reported it had only a 15% improvement of performance over Win10 while spending FOUR GIGABYTES OF RAM instead of just 1 GB like Win10.

2 - I wont use linux because most of stuff are on windows and i dont like UNIX interface.
You'll get even more efficiency/performance with linux ::winkfelix But yea, I'm biased because I hate windows, use whatever works for you. Even though nowadays most linux distro desktop environments will pretty much function like windows, you do have to be willing to learn a few things depending on your distro choice.
 
So before I start this conversation im aware ALOT of PCs dont have TPM, i get that, my main question is if windows 11 isn't an option, why stay with windows 10, why not go with Linux? Asking because i just recently made the switch to linux from windows 11, Ive been wanting to for a while the only thing that was stopping me was FL studios and playnite, I decided to run FL via WINE and ditch playnite for now (although excited to hear about possible late 2026 linux build of playnite). So my question is for W10 users, whats holding you there, whats stopping you from moving on to linux or upgrading for w11?
I don't want to discourage you, but your post states that "if your PC has compatible TPM, you are going to upgrade to Windows 11, because yes". And that is far, far, far from many people's reality. I have several computers at home, because my job is related with computers, and only one has Windows 10, for compatibility purposes. The rest use Linux, and depending if I use them for work (Debian) or multimedia (Xubuntu).

It never came to mind, not even for a fraction of second, to install Windows 11 in any computer of my property, because that is just garbage. Hence, I strongly recommend anyone that asks for advice that stays on Windows 10 or swaps to Linux, if the person is skilled enough to do things on its own.

I believe most of us are well past the scenario where there is only one computer at home that is shared with the entire family and there is nothing we can do about it. Nowadays, you can get computers that run Windows 10 smoothly for 50-60€. Why to be stuck with one system?
 
So before I start this conversation im aware ALOT of PCs dont have TPM, i get that, my main question is if windows 11 isn't an option, why stay with windows 10, why not go with Linux? Asking because i just recently made the switch to linux from windows 11, Ive been wanting to for a while the only thing that was stopping me was FL studios and playnite, I decided to run FL via WINE and ditch playnite for now (although excited to hear about possible late 2026 linux build of playnite). So my question is for W10 users, whats holding you there, whats stopping you from moving on to linux or upgrading for w11?
It's not an upgrade, and Linux has a whole host of compatibility issues that don't simply go away because the Linux user base pretends like they're not present. If anything, I'll be looking for a legacy windows 10 stripped of all Microsoft presence to switch to in the near future.
 
And you're still alive?! :O
Yep.
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Honestly, my patience for figuring out new technology is very low. I hear great things about Linux, but the idea of figuring it out and getting it working stresses me out before I've even tried ::sailor-embarrassed
I was in the same boat myself. To ease myself into it I did stuff with a Raspberry Pi and separate Mini PC for a few years, then when I needed to swap my main I was ready to move over completely.

If you'd like to get to "try before you buy" so to speak, I'd suggest putting Linux on an older device or cheap dedicated device and see what its about. Once you get over those initial hurdles it's not bad at all. Doubly so with beginner friendly distros like Zorin OS or Linux Mint.
 
If you'd like to get to "try before you buy" so to speak, I'd suggest putting Linux on an older device or cheap dedicated device and see what its about. Once you get over those initial hurdles it's not bad at all. Doubly so with beginner friendly distros like Zorin OS or Linux Mint.
Those would be my recommendations as well, even though I've only had somewhat superficial contact with either.
 
I chose not to upgrade. Simple as that. As much as I love Steam OS I have a couple of niche applications that still need Windows. Am I putting up with 11, Co-pilot, and its infinite bugs for these? No.
 
So... whats stopping you from moving on to linux or upgrading for w11?
Fair question :cool:

My home / work / business computer is one of the last Intel-powered Mac Minis. 1 TB SSD, 64 GB RAM, and a bootable Windows 10 partition that I can switch to with a simple click.

I mostly use the Windows partition offline, doing graphics work with my paid copy of Photoshop, playing games, and printing shipping labels or high-quality inkjets for home projects. And I have found that Windows, Paint, and Acrobat Reader offer better compatibility with my Canon printer than the Mac OS equivalents, allowing for more accurate prints at specific sizes and dimensions.

I don't believe the software (Bootcamp) that allowed this computer to create the Windows 10 partition would support Windows 11. And current M Series Macs do not allow for a bootable Windows partition to be created at all. At least, not at present.

I don't use Windows 11, simply because I can't. And even if I could, I feel like it would just mess everything up that I've worked so hard to set in place. My computer works fine, and performs the tasks I ask it to do perfectly. No reason to "upgrade" at all 😉
 
could you clarify on that bit, what about unix interfaces dont you like?
They seem uglier versions of the windows' ones.
And I have found that Windows, Paint, and Acrobat Reader offer better compatibility with my Canon printer than the Mac OS equivalents, allowing for more accurate prints at specific sizes and dimensions.
Why you use acrobat reader? SumatraPDF is light and better.
 
My home / work / business computer is one of the last Intel-powered Mac Minis. 1 TB SSD, 64 GB RAM, and a bootable Windows 10 partition that I can switch to with a simple click.

I mostly use the Windows partition offline, doing graphics work with my paid copy of Photoshop, playing games, and printing shipping labels or high-quality inkjets for home projects. And I have found that Windows, Paint, and Acrobat Reader offer better compatibility with my Canon printer than the Mac OS equivalents, allowing for more accurate prints at specific sizes and dimensions.

I don't believe the software (Bootcamp) that allowed this computer to create the Windows 10 partition would support Windows 11. And current M Series Macs do not allow for a bootable Windows partition to be created at all. At least, not at present.

I don't use Windows 11, simply because I can't. And even if I could, I feel like it would just mess everything up that I've worked so hard to set in place. My computer works fine, and performs the tasks I ask it to do perfectly. No reason to "upgrade" at all 😉
All fair reasons, quick question though; what do you use 64 gigs of ram for? I have 32 ddr5 and even thats overkill for me, is there any program youre using that needs that much ram? No judgment just interested in the why
 
Legacy apps, mostly, and legacy patchers too. 11 has issues even running Explorer.exe correctly, from last I heard. Will probably go with 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC (updates until 2032) before even considering 11 or (God forbid) linux lol.

I have Debian on a laptop that I rarely boot up (a shame, a nice HP Elite with touchscreen), and I totally respect how linux runs on everything, is responsible for lots of dev work, etc. There's just no reason for me to go with linux while I have Windows options that don't suck.
 
, I decided to run FL via WINE
I know this is a bit off topic but you should explore some of the native Linux audio production software. Using JACK with the software suite available from KX studio is a really cool way to make music. You can basically connect the inputs and outputs from any JACK enabled software directly into the inputs and outputs of any other JACK enabled software basically plug and play. It pretty much turns your computer into a recording/production studio.

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It was a big change coming from windows but once I got used to it I'd never go back. There's even wrappers for some windows only stuff allowing you to connect them directly to other JACK apps. I recommend at least checking it out.
 

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