This isn't a console war, it's a console mercy killing....

[DinoRexMax]

The console wars died years ago,

Nah, man. it ended last year. Gamestop said so.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/gamestop-declares-the-console-wars-officially-over-with-halo-on-ps5/1100-6535718/

 

[BrawlMan]

Nah, man. it ended last year. Gamestop said so.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/gamestop-declares-the-console-wars-officially-over-with-halo-on-ps5/1100-6535718/

Adorable.

Those fuckers have been out of touch since the late 2000s, and don't dictate shit. Especially after doing so more layoffs and closing stores because of their own decades building worth of fuck ups.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gamestop-store-closures-2026-see-131500260.html

 

[bjork]

Adorable.

Those fuckers have been out of touch since the late 2000s, and don't dictate shit. Especially after doing so more layoffs and closing stores because of their own decades building worth of fuck ups.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gamestop-store-closures-2026-see-131500260.html

You seem really angry

 

[PhaseJump]

You seem really angry

Careful. He might try to backseat mod you about it, or start policing conversations again.

 

[moonbits]

I like my convenience, I don't think they're going anywhere. The games being on PC doesn't make them irrelevant, that's just an enthusiast club propaganda, half of Steam userbase can't even run console exclusives until 3-5 years when they get more suitable hardware.

Spoiler

Been hearing this death of console shit since the late 2000s. Not everyone is going to get a Bugatti to go to Costco

 

[BrawlMan]

You seem really angry

Nope. Just spitting facts and truth. Those in charge are the ones that fucked up.

Careful. He might try to backseat mod you about it, or start policing conversations again.

And you had no problem going off topic with a joke.

I like my convenience, I don't think they're going anywhere. The games being on PC doesn't make them irrelevant, that's just an enthusiast club propaganda, half of Steam userbase can't even run console exclusives until 3-5 years when they get more suitable hardware.

Spoiler

Been hearing this death of console shit since the late 2000s. Not everyone is going to get a Bugatti to go to Costco

Ultimate truth.

 

[moonbits]

You gotta think outside the box, of course us being the ultimate enthusiast club turbo retro nerds that count the scanlines in our Lottes.gsl filter when playing obscure japanese arcade game, perhaps consoles aren't suited for us but there's a huge, HUGE market, a casual market and that's what they aim at.

I can understand, even agree to the points being made here. PC is the ultimate platform for enthusiast gaming but making it the only place to play games is a absolutely bonkers.

 

[bjork]

Nope. Just spitting facts and truth. Those in charge are the ones that fucked up.

Oh. You're one of those. Nevermind!

 

[BrawlMan]

You gotta think outside the box, of course us being the ultimate enthusiast club turbo retro nerds that count the scanlines in our Lottes.gsl filter when playing obscure japanese arcade game, perhaps consoles aren't suited for us but there's a huge, HUGE market, a casual market and that's what they aim at.

I can understand, even agree to the points being made here. PC is the ultimate platform for enthusiast gaming but making it the only place to play games is a absolutely bonkers.

Yes. Somebody else finally gets it, and are not sniffing farts about it.

Oh. You're one of those. Nevermind!

Damn straight.

 

[Ikagura]

Another point is that most indies tend to make way too much homages with added stuff but are still way too much like fan-games than stand alone games overall .

That is my perspective on indies but i could be wrong on that point.

And why should it affect the intrinsic value of those indie games as long as they're good?

Especially if the actual series they're based on no longer have games (nor quality releases).

You can't just make a game like "Final Fantasy 98 + Mario Rpg with a little bit of Earthbound for spice" and indie game genuinely has to bring something unique to the table to really standout (most often it's their art style or soundtrack, something corporate wouldn't take a risk on for a larger budget product).

Not every indies are copies either and sometimes people want the same experience as the older games.

If there's any game I can think of (despite not being really "indie") that's just AWASH in homage, it's Sonic Mania. It's great that it got made, and it's really well done (better than Sonic CD, and especially Sonic 4) but it really is just Sonic 3 again, y'know?

Better than CD is debatable because CD is one of the most popular classic games.

Then again Sonic 3&K is Sonic 2 with expanded levels which itself is Sonic 1 with new features and better level design.

You can talk about Freedom Planet which doesn't merely copy Sonic (since the game has dedicated attack buttons, three characters with specific ability that set them appart more than Tails and Knuckles as well as good challenging bosses) as well as the Spark the Electric Jester series that also has some emphasis on battles.

 

[iamthemilkman]

This generation has been pretty awful. That's why I'm fine with it lasting until 2030. Why start a new generation when it feels like this one hasn't even started? Additionally, with games taking so long to make and costing so much money, why should we make that even worse? It's just stupid. We used to get 3 Mass Effect games, 3 Uncharted games and TLOU, 3 Bioshock games, 3 Resistance games, 4 Halo games, and on and on, in a single generation. Now we're lucky to get one.

 

[moonbits]

This generation has been pretty awful. That's why I'm fine with it lasting until 2030. Why start a new generation when it feels like this one hasn't even started? Additionally, with games taking so long to make and costing so much money, why should we make that even worse? It's just stupid. We used to get 3 Mass Effect games, 3 Uncharted games and TLOU, 3 Bioshock games, 3 Resistance games, 4 Halo games, and on and on, in a single generation. Now we're lucky to get one.

Don't romanticise those eras, those people died making those games. Crunched to death and tears because of insane publisher demands. We don't do it anymore because it was insanity.

It's now people like you and me making games, not baby boomers with insane working environments. Nobody wants to die for this shit, no matter the passion.

 

[PhaseJump]

Don't romanticise those eras, those people died making those games. Crunched to death and tears because of insane publisher demands. We don't do it anymore because it was insanity.