The Mega JRPG thread.

[MasterEn]

Once you realize that most of the writers of Final Fantasy (outside of Sakaguchi and Matsuno) are absolute otaku brain morons, you stop worrying about trying to make sense of the lore.

nonsense. that makes me want to make sense of the lore even more!

 

[Wechseln]

I was never able to get too much into Final Fantasy aside from the GBA stuff. I finished V and VI and Tactics Advanced.

V was a lot of fun with the Job System, I even managed to beat a few Super Bosses.

VI plot was insanely good and it made me cry a lot, specially during the Opera Section.

Tactics Advanced is one of my favourite games of all times and I replay it once every year.

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

Nah this is war you throwing a jab at me in your description KNOWINGLY? AUUGGHHHHH ah shi I forgot my hammer listen I will go get it quick and be back just stay there ok?

Haha, no jab intended. You are right to keep the Final Fantasy thread clear of offtopic stuff.

 

[MasterEn]

I was never able to get too much into Final Fantasy aside from the GBA stuff. I finished V and VI and Tactics Advanced.

V was a lot of fun with the Job System, I even managed to beat a few Super Bosses.

VI plot was insanely good and it made me cry a lot, specially during the Opera Section.

Tactics Advanced is one of my favourite games of all times and I replay it once every year.

have you given tactics advance 2 a try? it improves on all of the gameplay aspects of the first one. the story does kind of end abruptly though.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

Haha, no jab intended. You are right to keep the Final Fantasy thread clear of offtopic stuff.

A magitek armor squad is on its way to your current location

Not that I played any other RPGs made in japan , RPGs ain't exactly my jam well until I played FF , btw wouldn't this thread kinda clash with the FF thread?

 

[MasterEn]

A magitek armor squad is on its way to your current location

Not that I played any other RPGs made in japan , RPGs ain't exactly my jam well until I played FF , btw wouldn't this thread kinda clash with the FF thread?

probably. you and i can turn it into the final fantasy II thread. we can improve on the flaws of the first one and make this thread even better.

 

[Wechseln]

have you given tactics advance 2 a try? it improves on all of the gameplay aspects of the first one. the story does kind of end abruptly though.

I hate TA2 with every cell in my body. I don't know why because the game is actually really cool but I just don't vibe with it personally. It's great tho, I just can't enjoy it myself.

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

I will suggest for everyone to keep the in depth Final Fantasy talk to the Final Fantasy thread, but that will be difficult since it is the most popular JRPG series.

 

[Wechseln]

I actually enjoyed Disgaea (PSP/DS) far more than TA2. The original TA was my introduction to the genre, I guess I'm more into grinding for stuff rather than the plot.

 

[MasterEn]

I hate TA2 with every cell in my body. I don't know why because the game is actually really cool but I just don't vibe with it personally. It's great tho, I just can't enjoy it myself.

it's probably the story. it sort of gets up there on par with the previous games, but the rather abrupt ending hurts the story overall. the gameplay is what keeps me coming back to it though. i usually just stop around the final handful of missions.

 

[Wechseln]

I should give the Tactics Ogre series a try.

 

[Noon]

I should give the Tactics Ogre series a try.

I keep restarting ogre battle on different platforms, I just put it on my psp, I’m finishing it this time! ? unless it gets a remaster…

 

[OmegaPunch's icon OmegaPunch OmegaPunch]

I should give the Tactics Ogre series a try.

Don't forget to play it with the One Vision mod.
You'll thank me later.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

probably. you and i can turn it into the final fantasy II thread. we can improve on the flaws of the first one and make this thread even better.

With my brains and your brawn we will make an excellent team!

 

[MasterEn]

With my brain and your brawn we will make an excellent team!

 

[OmegaPunch's icon OmegaPunch OmegaPunch]

With my brains and your brawn we will make an excellent team!

Question:
Can I join in?
"Power In Numbers" and all that.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

Question:
Can I join in?
"Power In Numbers" and all that.

Since its Final Fantasy gang you need a test for entry you will need to defeat bahumut in all FF games to enter

 

[Wechseln]

Don't forget to play it with the One Vision mod.
You'll thank me later.

The temptation is huge but I need to finish a few games first, I have a lot of stuff in the To Do List.

Currently playing (Kinda stuck tho) Metal Max 3 (DS). 100% Metal Max 2 Reloaded (DS) and I just need more, that game was a goddamn masterpiece, straight up in my Top 3 of the Best RPGs of all time.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

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We are destroying chaos with this one

 

[OmegaPunch's icon OmegaPunch OmegaPunch]

Since its Final Fantasy gang you need a test for entry you will need to defeat bahumut in all FF games to enter

Consider it done!

 

[MasterEn]

Question:
Can I join in?
"Power In Numbers" and all that.

i wanted to post some reaction pictures for this, but i can't get them to load properly, so i'll use this again.

 

[OmegaPunch's icon OmegaPunch OmegaPunch]

The temptation is huge but I need to finish a few games first, I have a lot of stuff in the To Do List.

Currently playing (Kinda stuck tho) Metal Max 3 (DS). 100% Metal Max 2 Reloaded (DS) and I just need more, that game was a goddamn masterpiece, straight up in my Top 3 of the Best RPGs of all time.

Metal Max enjoyer, I see.

 

[ATenderLad]

Seems like as good a place as any to talk about-

SUIKODEN

The first game was one of the first things I bought on the PSX! I had a Gamefan with a guide to recruiting all 108 Stars of Destiny, and I was damned curious to find out what kind of game let you draft a whole army. It's a really fun mix of fantasy and war, with a surprisingly grounded take on the political situation. Yes, you're a little bit of a Chosen One, with a cool magic stone in your hand that *literally* eats souls; that said, your insurrection can't be won with cool magic and kung-fu.

They *can* be won with bloodthirsty strategists with great hair, though.
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The bulk of Suikoden - and the series at large - revolves around establishing alliances, winning over hearts and minds, and relying on the strategies of your staff officers to survive open war with a superior force. Yes, there's magic and Capital D Destiny afoot, but the writing tends to treat those as symbolic. The most powerful magics, the True Runes of the world, represent ephemeral forces like Life and Death, but like the abstract conceptual beings of Marvel Comics - Death, Eternity, etc. - they have no real agency. The heroes and villains of the story drive the events of the plot, there's never a higher power or existential threat.

(Which is wild, considering we still have vampires, werewolves, a literal fuckin' unicorn, and flying squirrels with capes.)

You can get a whole party of these guys, with different colored capes like Pac-Man ghosts!
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The second game became something of a collectors item, at least in America. The name was kind of a non-starter, but it also had the temerity to release the same month as the extremely anticipated sequel to Final Fantasy VII. I still got it the moment it hit shelves though, being probably the only person in my small town who had played the first one. I've sold a lot of games over the years, but Suikoden II is still sitting pretty as a picture in my closet.

(I did actually want the hot new Final Fantasy, but Wal-Mart had them priced at $25 and $50, and my day job was getting paid under the table as a mail sorter sooooooo)

The mix of battle types, like standard squad battles, large-scale military engagements, and dramatic duels is still a great hodgepodge of ideas that I'd love more games to steal take inspiration from.​

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Anyhow, just saw most of the conversation was about Final Fantasy, wanted to shake things up.

Oh, and I have that seen the new game announcement, my eyes lighting up looking at the screenshots just before the words "mobile game, *light* gacha elements" sucker punched the taste outta my mouth.

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

Seems like as good a place as any to talk about-

SUIKODENView attachment 37120​

The first game was one of the first things I bought on the PSX! I had a Gamefan with a guide to recruiting all 108 Stars of Destiny, and I was damned curious to find out what kind of game let you draft a whole army. It's a really fun mix of fantasy and war, with a surprisingly grounded take on the political situation. Yes, you're a little bit of a Chosen One, with a cool magic stone in your hand that *literally* eats souls; that said, your insurrection can't be won with cool magic and kung-fu.

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They *can* be won with bloodthirsty strategists with great hair, though.
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The bulk of Suikoden - and the series at large - revolves around establishing alliances, winning over hearts and minds, and relying on the strategies of your staff officers to survive open war with a superior force. Yes, there's magic and Capital D Destiny afoot, but the writing tends to treat those as symbolic. The most powerful magics, the True Runes of the world, represent ephemeral forces like Life and Death, but like the abstract conceptual beings of Marvel Comics - Death, Eternity, etc. - they have no real agency. The heroes and villains of the story drive the events of the plot, there's never a higher power or existential threat.

(Which is wild, considering we still have vampires, werewolves, a literal fuckin' unicorn, and flying squirrels with capes.)

View attachment 37144
You can get a whole party of these guys, with different colored capes like Pac-Man ghosts!
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The second game became something of a collectors item, at least in America. The name was kind of a non-starter, but it also had the temerity to release the same month as the extremely anticipated sequel to Final Fantasy VII. I still got it the moment it hit shelves though, being probably the only person in my small town who had played the first one. I've sold a lot of games over the years, but Suikoden II is still sitting pretty as a picture in my closet.

(I did actually want the hot new Final Fantasy, but Wal-Mart had them priced at $25 and $50, and my day job was getting paid under the table as a mail sorter sooooooo)

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The mix of battle types, like standard squad battles, large-scale military engagements, and dramatic duels is still a great hodgepodge of ideas that I'd love more games to steal take inspiration from.​

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Anyhow, just saw most of the conversation was about Final Fantasy, wanted to shake things up.

Oh, and I have that seen the new game announcement, my eyes lighting up looking at the screenshots just before the words "mobile game, *light* gacha elements" sucker punched the taste outta my mouth.

Still have to finish Suikoden 2, it has some really cool elements.

 

[ATenderLad]

Still have to finish Suikoden 2, it has some really cool elements.

Ugh, it's so great. The different combat types, all the hidden characters to find, the Iron *fucking* Chef mini-game with a wild-ass narrative of it's own that the game doesn't even tell you about...I stumbled on it the second time around, I never even noticed it beating the game the first time!

I think the castle mechanic especially - the way it keeps expanding and all the characters you recruit add something to the base - is such an untapped idea for JRPG's and games like it.