RGT Nostalgia Society #2 - Vagrant Story

[KaiserMk7]

Unless you are doing a speedrun or something, I say no. I use ss all the time to save time and sanity: it's the same as resetting and trying again, imo.

Now that said, I am probably going to have to legit cheat (duckstation max damage) for this fucking game. I got stuck on this fucker since I last posted
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so been taking a break and playing a game that doesn't piss me off. And a fucking time limit? I guess the idea is if you can't beat it fast enough, to keep whacking away on it to grind up your anti ghost weapon affinity or however this system works? So the game is trying to help you? Who's got time for that O_o If this game is a grind fest, I'm gonna go ahead and turn on max damage now and just give Sydney a 999 damage crossbow bolt up his ass.

If you don't really have a good weapon, you could try casting light spells with your anti evil/undead weapon. If that's an earlygame ghost, you don't really need to worry about affinities and should just cast the light attack spell you have.

 

[ThatOneLum]

Yeah I was gonna say, for most of the phantoms, my Ashley might as well have been a wizard lmao

I relied on either soul shock or one of my other offensive spells to take out the ghosts based on their elemental affiliation.

Tho, like @diapered I've been temped by finding some cheats or something at times. Especially here in the final dungeon. I've reached the divine dragon and my usual tactic of tanking damage and reflecting it hasn't worked so far.

I'm gonna go and find a dark affiliated weapon and grind it against the dragon dummy.

 

[diapered]

I just got into the city. After learning you cannot chain the same skill things are starting to go smoother. This video was a great help

I liked the explanation in that video, but this game is still probably going to continue to kick my ass >_<

 

[KaiserMk7]

I liked the explanation in that video, but this game is still probably going to continue to kick my ass >_<

Press on.
Do it for the pretty boys who sometimes try to kill each other and who wear things that barely count as clothes.

 

[ThatOneLum]

Press on.
Do it for the pretty boys who sometimes try to kill each other and who wear things that barely count as clothes.

I like to think of Ashley's "clothes" as "Butt Furniture"

 

[DanCalibur]

I liked the explanation in that video, but this game is still probably going to continue to kick my ass >_<
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Don't give up, this game has a weird curve, it's super hard in the beginning but it gets much easier in the middle once you get access to better resources like affinity spells, gems and some understanding of the equipment improvement mechanics. And remember to always carry a weapon of each type with you(Blunt/slash/pierce) and also a silver weapon.

 

[Crashbandi]

Yeah I was gonna say, for most of the phantoms, my Ashley might as well have been a wizard lmao

I relied on either soul shock or one of my other offensive spells to take out the ghosts based on their elemental affiliation.

Tho, like @diapered I've been temped by finding some cheats or something at times. Especially here in the final dungeon. I've reached the divine dragon and my usual tactic of tanking damage and reflecting it hasn't worked so far.

I'm gonna go and find a dark affiliated weapon and grind it against the dragon dummy.

I know this is a little late but one of the human dummies in the Wine Cellar I think has affinity for each of the different limbs. Don't remember what is what, but you hit it and you get elemental affinity instead of physical

Edit: not "I think it's a human dummy" but I think it's in the Wine Cellar

 

[ThatOneLum]

I know this is a little late but one of the human dummies in the Wine Cellar I think has affinity for each of the different limbs. Don't remember what is what, but you hit it and you get elemental affinity instead of physical

Edit: not "I think it's a human dummy" but I think it's in the Wine Cellar

Wait for real? Does it do dark affinity?

 

[Crashbandi]

Wait for real? Does it do dark affinity?

Sure does, it's in Worker's Breakroom, found it last night.
Head = Dark Affinity
L. Arm = Water
R. Arm = Earth
Body = Air
Legs = Fire

Now I'm not 100% sure those are the right matchings, but I'm like 85% sure

 

[diapered]

Restarted and I'm going to try to get good at chains at the first dummy (didn't feel like back tracking).

Watched some speedruns and looks like chains are essential to beat this fucking game with any efficiency. I can finally get 1 chain deep reliably, but fuck this game and I hate all you assholes that voted for this

 

[Crashbandi]

Restarted and I'm going to try to get good at chains at the first dummy (didn't feel like back tracking).
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Watched some speedruns and looks like chains are essential to beat this fucking game with any efficiency. I can finally get 1 chain deep reliably, but fuck this game and I hate all you assholes that voted for this

Good idea, I only use 2 chain attacks and I finally got up to 15. The 40% increase damage and healing one. To me the timing just seems easier with those 2. And you don't really need to restart, you should have gotten or almost been to the teleport spell.

 

[KaiserMk7]

I can finally get 1 chain deep reliably, but fuck this game and I hate all you assholes that voted for this

Oh well.

 

[diapered]

Good idea, I only use 2 chain attacks and I finally got up to 15. The 40% increase damage and healing one. To me the timing just seems easier with those 2. And you don't really need to restart, you should have gotten or almost been to the teleport spell.

Didn't make it that far First ghost kept kicking my ass, then I watched an agdq where one chain combo killed it instantly O_o So yea, I didn't lose much progress in terms of story (still spent lots of time ), but looks like you need to be able to do chains at least a little, and it looked so cool!

Oh well.

I'm well aware how bad I suck at this game

 

[KaiserMk7]

Didn't make it that far First ghost kept kicking my ass, then I watched an agdq where one chain combo killed it instantly O_o So yea, I didn't lose much progress in terms of story (still spent lots of time ), but looks like you need to be able to do chains at least a little, and it looked so cool!

I just cast the first light spell or something. I don't really do long chains yet even at my progression stage.

 

[Crashbandi]

Didn't make it that far First ghost kept kicking my ass, then I watched an agdq where one chain combo killed it instantly O_o So yea, I didn't lose much progress in terms of story (still spent lots of time ), but looks like you need to be able to do chains at least a little, and it looked so cool!

I'm well aware how bad I suck at this game

That's fair, and you don't suck it's a high learning curve game. You also get a silver dagger early that's great for getting rid of undead and phantoms early. You can change your weapons mid fight to help different threats

 

[Cantarella]

WHO voted for this

 

[ThatOneLum]

WHO voted for this

Don't look at me. I voted for Dino Crisis.

If we'd have been playing that y'all could have been finished 2 days in

 

[diapered]

I just cast the first light spell or something. I don't really do long chains yet even at my progression stage.

I believe I did try that or some spell I had, idk, already rage restarted, so deleted that save to start fresh. This time I'm not just using the crossbow and trying to get good with other weapons. I'll keep that in mind ^_^

WHO voted for this

I know! But in all seriousness, I do WANT to like this game. As much as it pisses me off, the design is great and the combat is really interesting and deep: I do see what the developers were going for.

Don't look at me. I voted for Dino Crisis.

I all my rgt frens (even those that wanted to torture me with vagrant story ) and everyone here should know I like to be over-dramatic when frustrated.

If we'd have been playing that y'all could have been finished 2 days in

Is dino crisis that short? Hm, that may have been a bad choice for the opposite reason

Well, it's another day. Time to get back to this torture >_< Hopefully, I can git gud

 

[ThatOneLum]

IIRC dino crisis is about the same as the PS1 resi games, but I might be remembering them as shorter cus I've played through them a bunch lol

 

[diapered]

Ok, I can fire off a 5 chain back and forth with temper and heavy shot with sword. I guess these are best right now? But just been on the dummy, let's see how it works in practice, but I think I have a good counting strat: the ! doesn't work for me, so I count like I'm playing guitar.

Should I be worried about class penalties? All this practice lowered beast/undead (but I guess made my sword into a man killer lol) I think one guide I read said class is mostly irrelevant (affinity/type is much more important), so I'm not too worried.

 

[KaiserMk7]

Ok, I can fire off a 5 chain back and forth with temper and heavy shot with sword. I guess these are best right now? But just been on the dummy, let's see how it works in practice, but I think I have a good counting strat: the ! doesn't work for me, so I count like I'm playing guitar.
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Should I be worried about class penalties? All this practice lowered beast/undead (but I guess made my sword into a man killer lol) I think one guide I read said class is mostly irrelevant (affinity/type is much more important), so I'm not too worried.
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Element is the big wall that's going to keep you from killing things, for the most part.

 

[diapered]

You can kill the dummy? But I want to practice more

 

[KaiserMk7]

You can kill the dummy? But I want to practice more
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Does the damage persist when leaving the room? Does the dummy respawn?

 

[diapered]

Does the damage persist when leaving the room? Does the dummy respawn?

Does not respawn, I can confirm that. I didn't even know you could kill it O_o Loaded a new save because I wasn't grinding for human class points, so I don't mind losing those. I guess they don't want you to do that? Which is fair, but I was just using it to practice chains

Huh, I don't know if the damage refreshes when leaving, but I would guess not. The possibility of killing it, makes me think they purposely don't want you to grind class which apparently doesn't matter that much anyway...

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I just cast the first light spell or something.

Spirit surge doesn't do shit

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Ok, I stand corrected, but you didn't tell me I needed to use the rapier @KaiserMk7 to make it work. That's really crucial info

 

[ThatOneLum]

Does not respawn, I can confirm that. I didn't even know you could kill it O_o Loaded a new save because I wasn't grinding for human class points, so I don't mind losing those. I guess they don't want you to do that? Which is fair, but I was just using it to practice chains

Huh, I don't know if the damage refreshes when leaving, but I would guess not. The possibility of killing it, makes me think they purposely don't want you to grind class which apparently doesn't matter that much anyway...

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Spirit surge doesn't do shit
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Ok, I stand corrected, but you didn't tell me I needed to use the rapier @KaiserMk7 to make it work. That's really crucial info
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I believe your magic is effected by your current weapon's affinity and damage type, but not your class bonus.

So basically if you use a weapon with a high light affinity your soul spell will do more damage, but you also need to account for the whole blunt/piercing/slashing thing (I think. The way damage works in the game is a mind fuck)