AEW relies mainly on former WWE wrestlers.
Moxley, Cage and Cope, part of The Conglomeration (Roderick Strong and Kyle O'Reilly), FTR, Chris Jericho, Samoa Joe, Swerve Strickland, Toni Storm, Luchasaurus, Big Bill, The Hurt Syndicate, Pac, Ciampa, Athena, Deonna Purrazzo, Andrade, Ariya Daivari, Billy Gunn, Claudio Castagnoli, Dezmond Xavier, Johnny TV, Juice Robinson, Lance Archer, Lio Rush, Mansoor, Mike Bennett, Místico, Ricochet, Tony Nese, Trent Beretta, Zachary Wentz, Cassie Lee & Jessie McKay, Marina Shafir, Rachael Ellering, Tay Melo, Taya Valkyrie, Zayda Steel, Adam Cole, Buddy Matthews, Dustin Rhodes, Keith Lee, Matt Sydal, Mercedes Moné, Ruby Soho – all of them have history with WWE.
AEW relies mainly on former WWE wrestlers.
Moxley, Cage and Cope, part of The Conglomeration (Roderick Strong and Kyle O'Reilly), FTR, Chris Jericho, Samoa Joe, Swerve Strickland, Toni Storm, Luchasaurus, Big Bill, The Hurt Syndicate, Pac, Ciampa, Athena, Deonna Purrazzo, Andrade, Ariya Daivari, Billy Gunn, Claudio Castagnoli, Dezmond Xavier, Johnny TV, Juice Robinson, Lance Archer, Lio Rush, Mansoor, Mike Bennett, Místico, Ricochet, Tony Nese, Trent Beretta, Zachary Wentz, Cassie Lee & Jessie McKay, Marina Shafir, Rachael Ellering, Tay Melo, Taya Valkyrie, Zayda Steel, Adam Cole, Buddy Matthews, Dustin Rhodes, Keith Lee, Matt Sydal, Mercedes Moné, Ruby Soho – all of them have history with WWE.
Would agree AEW only has its existence due to half the guys they originally signed back in 2019/2020. John Huber was set to be huge in AEW but unfortunately he passed big loss to the wrestling business as he did have potential been luckily enough to see him wrestle live in the wwe.
I get wanting to use your own talent to get the company over, early TNA was full of ex WCW, ECW and WWE guys but it was the guys in from the indies that got people talking and got eyes on the product. The problem is far too many wrestlers have the exact same movesets, a flip here, a flip there, a superkick here, a superkick there, when you are watching a three hour show of the same kinds of matches (even with the women these days) it gets tiring fast.
I have never been a WWF/E fan, sure I watched the product during the 90s but into 2000 but WCW was always my thing, even in 2000 when Vince Russo came in and pushed the young guys (something he never gets credit for because WCW went under less than a year later), I want AEW to be a success because anyone who was alive back then knows that when WCW got put out of business by Vince McMahon buying that company and of course signing ECW's biggest talents and later claiming to have financially supported that company killed the business it really did.
TNA helped to get people interested again and made wrestling "cool again" without question but then 2010 happened and killed everything that the company have been doing in the 8 years previously.
Yeah, 2005 through right before Bischoff and Hogan came in were good. Honestly, though, TNA was doing some pretty big crowds with Bischoff and Hogan. I kinda liked Aces & Eights and Joker Sting. It was stupid to go up against Raw, though. TNA wasn't going to compete with WWE, it was only going to make them look bush league in comparison, and it did. At least AEW went up against NXT Black & Gold, which was run by Triple H at the time, and they defeated them pretty much every week. TK chose something doable at the time for a new promotion. It was still pretty impressive, however, because AEW Black & Gold was often considered the best wrestling show on television before AEW's debut because Raw and Smackdown were pretty much unwatchable back then.
I still don't think Russo gets enough credit. Without him working besides Vince McMahon, WWF/E was never as good as it was during the Attitude Era. And Russo worked at TNA during their best times, too. But he's always blamed for the death of WCW and the rest of his success in the business is just completely ignored.
AEW relies mainly on former WWE wrestlers.
Moxley, Cage and Cope, part of The Conglomeration (Roderick Strong and Kyle O'Reilly), FTR, Chris Jericho, Samoa Joe, Swerve Strickland, Toni Storm, Luchasaurus, Big Bill, The Hurt Syndicate, Pac, Ciampa, Athena, Deonna Purrazzo, Andrade, Ariya Daivari, Billy Gunn, Claudio Castagnoli, Dezmond Xavier, Johnny TV, Juice Robinson, Lance Archer, Lio Rush, Mansoor, Mike Bennett, Místico, Ricochet, Tony Nese, Trent Beretta, Zachary Wentz, Cassie Lee & Jessie McKay, Marina Shafir, Rachael Ellering, Tay Melo, Taya Valkyrie, Zayda Steel, Adam Cole, Buddy Matthews, Dustin Rhodes, Keith Lee, Matt Sydal, Mercedes Moné, Ruby Soho – all of them have history with WWE.
You named a bunch of people who aren't wrestling (Adam Cole, Dustin Rhodes, Keith Lee), are on ROH, etc. AEW's not relying on the vast majority of these people.
You should've typed New Day since they're definitely on their way, lol. Huge fucking fumble for the 'E.
Would agree AEW only has its existence due to half the guys they originally signed back in 2019/2020. John Huber was set to be huge in AEW but unfortunately he passed big loss to the wrestling business as he did have potential been luckily enough to see him wrestle live in the wwe.
Would disagree. All they really needed in the beginning were Jericho and Cody. Those were the two recognizable faces for mainstream audiences, and that allowed them to introduce people like MJF, Darby, The Bucks, Omega, Orange Cassidy, etc.
Yeah, 2005 through right before Bischoff and Hogan came in were good. Honestly, though, TNA was doing some pretty big crowds with Bischoff and Hogan. I kinda liked Aces & Eights and Joker Sting. It was stupid to go up against Raw, though. TNA wasn't going to compete with WWE, it was only going to make them look bush league in comparison, and it did. At least AEW went up against NXT Black & Gold, which was run by Triple H at the time, and they defeated them pretty much every week. TK chose something doable at the time for a new promotion. It was still pretty impressive, however, because AEW Black & Gold was often considered the best wrestling show on television before AEW's debut because Raw and Smackdown were pretty much unwatchable back then.
I still don't think Russo gets enough credit. Without him working besides Vince McMahon, WWF/E was never as good as it was during the Attitude Era. And Russo worked at TNA during their best times, too. But he's always blamed for the death of WCW and the rest of his success in the business is just completely ignored.
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You named a bunch of people who aren't wrestling (Adam Cole, Dustin Rhodes, Keith Lee), are on ROH, etc. AEW's not relying on the vast majority of these people.
You should've typed New Day since they're definitely on their way, lol. Huge fucking fumble for the 'E.
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Would disagree. All they really needed in the beginning were Jericho and Cody. Those were the two recognizable faces for mainstream audiences, and that allowed them to introduce people like MJF, Darby, The Bucks, Omega, Orange Cassidy, etc.
It's also important to remember that Stone Cold, Mick Foley, Undertaker, etc., were all ex-WCW guys. Nothing wrong with that. Toni Storm, Swerve Strickland, Ricochet, etc., have all been better in AEW than they ever were in WWE. You could say the same thing about Ethan Page and Danhausen being better in WWE than they were in AEW. That's why it's important not to have a monopoly. Sometimes the grass is greener.
Yeah, 2005 through right before Bischoff and Hogan came in were good. Honestly, though, TNA was doing some pretty big crowds with Bischoff and Hogan. I kinda liked Aces & Eights and Joker Sting. It was stupid to go up against Raw, though. TNA wasn't going to compete with WWE, it was only going to make them look bush league in comparison, and it did. At least AEW went up against NXT Black & Gold, which was run by Triple H at the time, and they defeated them pretty much every week. TK chose something doable at the time for a new promotion. It was still pretty impressive, however, because AEW Black & Gold was often considered the best wrestling show on television before AEW's debut because Raw and Smackdown were pretty much unwatchable back then.
I still don't think Russo gets enough credit. Without him working besides Vince McMahon, WWF/E was never as good as it was during the Attitude Era. And Russo worked at TNA during their best times, too. But he's always blamed for the death of WCW and the rest of his success in the business is just completely ignored.
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You named a bunch of people who aren't wrestling (Adam Cole, Dustin Rhodes, Keith Lee), are on ROH, etc. AEW's not relying on the vast majority of these people.
You should've typed New Day since they're definitely on their way, lol. Huge fucking fumble for the 'E.
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Would disagree. All they really needed in the beginning were Jericho and Cody. Those were the two recognizable faces for mainstream audiences, and that allowed them to introduce people like MJF, Darby, The Bucks, Omega, Orange Cassidy, etc.
Yeah Russo was a writer for WWF during its most popular period, writer and booker for WCW when they got highest post nWo ratings and writer for TNA during its most over with fans era.
Without Russo the Attitude era would have been very different, Booker T would never have been a main eventer and he also gave many young guys in WCW and TNA their big break (which they forget, like Shane Helms, without 3 Count there would never have been Hurricane). Vince Russo is one of wrestling greatest minds ever and his track record proves that.
There’s nothing wrong with relying on established wrestlers, it worked for WCW and AEW is similar in that they also have a mix of guys who didn’t come from WWE.
The thing I don’t get is the tribalism, if you don’t like what you see, don’t watch it. There are so many people that live 24/7 to talk shit about one company over the other. Watch what you like, there’s nothing wrong with having a bunch of different options.
There’s nothing wrong with relying on established wrestlers, it worked for WCW and AEW is similar in that they also have a mix of guys who didn’t come from WWE.
The thing I don’t get is the tribalism, if you don’t like what you see, don’t watch it. There are so many people that live 24/7 to talk shit about one company over the other. Watch what you like, there’s nothing wrong with having a bunch of different options.
I have no tribalism. I dislike both WWE & AEW, left & right wing politicians, Russian & Ukrainian government, etc.
Tribalism is what is tearing us all apart when it is okay to like or hate both equally.
I have no tribalism. I dislike both WWE & AEW, left & right wing politicians, Russian & Ukrainian government, etc.
Tribalism is what is tearing us all apart when it is okay to like or hate both equally.
Didn’t say anyone here was, it was just a general comment cuz it’s running wild and I don’t get why people waste their time with it. I suppose they have nothing better to do and going outside to socialize and touch grass is scary for them.
Didn’t say anyone here was, it was just a general comment cuz it’s running wild and I don’t get why people waste their time with it. I suppose they have nothing better to do and going outside to socialize and touch grass is scary for them.
I think this is the best version of Andrade. Given what the AEW locker room's been saying, I don't think Malakai Black's hopping back to AEW unless he eats a massive slice of humble pie, if not the whole pie. People seem to really not like that guy. It's pretty crazy how he was the least over part of the House of Black. Brody King and Julia Hart definitely got over the most from that faction. Buddy would've probably got over more since but he's been injured.
They aren’t wrestling at the moment because they’re injured (okay, the situation with Keith Lee and Toni Storm is a bit of a mystery. We don’t really know what’s going on. Keith has been injured since December 2023.) and ROH is owned by AEW, so most of the wrestlers officially signed to ROH also appear, more or less regularly, on Dynamite or Collision.
They aren’t wrestling at the moment because they’re injured (okay, the situation with Keith Lee and Toni Storm is a bit of a mystery. We don’t really know what’s going on. Keith has been injured since December 2023.) and ROH is owned by AEW, so most of the wrestlers officially signed to ROH also appear, more or less regularly, on Dynamite or Collision.
I think Toni is pregnant, it’s the only rational explanation I can think of. It’s usually not announced until 3 months the earliest and her being out until 2027 without a definitive reason makes me think this is the real reason. If she tore something or broke something, we would know by now.
I think Toni is pregnant, it’s the only rational explanation I can think of. It’s usually not announced until 3 months the earliest and her being out until 2027 without a definitive reason makes me think this is the real reason. If she tore something or broke something, we would know by now.
Yes, that’s very likely, but why make a secret of it? In fact, all the other women, especially those in WWE, have announced their pregnancies publicly, mostly on WWE TV, and some, like Carmella, on social media.
And the question is: what about Keith Lee? We know he suffered a injury, we know he’s had two operations, but we don’t know what the injury was, and apparently he was waiting for the creative team to come up with a storyline for his return.
But – he isn’t even wrestling on the indy's even though AEW allows to wrestle on the indy's when wrestlers aren’t on TV. And I suppose we can assume it’s one of two things:
1. The injury turned out, after the operation and recovery, to be a career-ending one, like Big E’s.
2. It is known that he had heart problems in WWE following COVID. Perhaps it turned out that there is something wrong with his heart again and it is related to those previous issues, especially as he is not exactly slim. From the photos, it is clear that he has lost a bit of weight. Maybe because heart issues?
Yes, that’s very likely, but why make a secret of it? In fact, all the other women, especially those in WWE, have announced their pregnancies publicly, mostly on WWE TV, and some, like Carmella, on social media.
And the question is: what about Keith Lee? We know he suffered a injury, we know he’s had two operations, but we don’t know what the injury was, and apparently he was waiting for the creative team to come up with a storyline for his return.
But – he isn’t even wrestling on the indy's even though AEW allows to wrestle on the indy's when wrestlers aren’t on TV. And I suppose we can assume it’s one of two things:
1. The injury turned out, after the operation and recovery, to be a career-ending one, like Big E’s.
2. It is known that he had heart problems in WWE following COVID. Perhaps it turned out that there is something wrong with his heart again and it is related to those previous issues, especially as he is not exactly slim. From the photos, it is clear that he has lost a bit of weight. Maybe because heart issues?
As I said, usually it’s 3 months the earliest. The reason is because the chances of miscarriage drops significantly by the 3 month mark and we don’t want to tell people right away and then there’s a miscarriage. No one wants to have to tell everyone that. Of course you can get one at any time but it’s still a very low percentage of a chance. Some don’t mind sharing with everyone earlier but of course at the end of the day it’s up to the woman when she wants people to know and it’s really no one else’s place to say when it should or shouldn’t be shared.
She was last seen 3 months ago so if she chooses to share, it could be any time now.
This place is so classy and just trustworthy, there is just one ProWres talk. I may as well type in and tune it up. I gave it up earlier when I mentioned Rumble Roses and Smackdown when I signed up. Just a quick AEW thought. Okay I don't know spoiler rules so maybe I shouldn't say that.
Hmm well. How about that WWE show in Italy?! Sometimes I don't know really know anymore what is real (life in general). Heh Hangman Page and Kenny Omega teaming up was some of the funniest and just fun wrestling I ever saw. Britt Baker was alright, but she's getting iced out. I was a big Shida fan. I hadn't actively watched live wrestling in awhile, but I try to keep up on some stuff. I guess I'll just post this. I tried to look up and reference the last posts. Keith Lee, was cool.
WWE on at 7pm UK time which is 45 minutes away ill watch it because im not doing much else can always fire steam on my new laptop and have sport on the big screen. Ive wwf summerslam 1999 playing in the background at the moment.
WWE on at 7pm UK time which is 45 minutes away ill watch it because im not doing much else can always fire steam on my new laptop and have sport on the big screen. Ive wwf summerslam 1999 playing in the background at the moment.
It could be a really good event. The line-up is strong, and at European events there’s a great atmosphere in the stands – the crowd really gets into it and makes a lot of noise.
I think everyone can expect a big pop. And Santino who is supposed to appear is going to get a huge pop, especially if they give him a segment with Danhausen.
Right – Danhausen. The perfect example of how AEW failed to make the most of its own talent. Guy hardly ever wrestles, but he’s become one of the absolute leaders in merchandise sales and a crowd favourite. He simply become a worthy successor to R-Truth
Im on holiday monday so ill catch clash in italy on my laptop while im snacking in the room. Should be easy enough to sign my netflix into the room tv.
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