Quick question what’s worse

[CyberRabbit]

(Idk what to put here tbh)

 

[qw90700]

It depends on what you looking for:

Price point: Windows win because it is cheaper to get a Windows PC.

Gaming: Windows win because the whole video game industry focuses on Windows and vice versa.

Creative professional works: Apple wins because the whole creative industry focuses on Apple and vice versa. You can get a cheaper Apple PC that works better compared to a Windows PC compared to this. Some may say "Windows good too" then Apple is good for gaming too because this logic has such a ratio here.

Security: Apple wins. Tons of shit uses Windows and it is very popular so more oppurtinities for hackers to exploit and wreck way more computers.

Versatility of use: Apple wins. Use Apple devices between each other way better than Windows can.

Ease of usage: Apple wins because Windows doesn't care about ease of usage. You sit in front of it and gotta fine-tune that shit to adjust it for your usage while Apple does what is common sense that Microsoft should learn. Not to mention variety of hardware in Windows computer calls for different settings, different ways of usage and different ways of troubleshooting are all very minimized on Apple.

Problems: Apple wins. In comparison Windows has always been problematic, in which only XP being a decent OS among Windows family.

Overall who wins? Of course HAL 9000 wins yo!!!:

lolol

 

[Bakuma1997]

Mr "shoves AI and anti-privacy measures in your poperative system and if you try to stick to past, safer versions we will fuck that one" Windows

 

[RandomHajile]

I voted Windows, but to be honest, both are horrid. In a perfect world, gamers would be running a desktop Steam OS, or some version of linux with Proton doing its thing. But we aren't there. Yet.

You have Windows which is in bed with the CIA and funneling your info directly to uncle sam.

Then you have Apple, which does the same thing, but demands huge amounts of money and hand greasing from the CIA until they give it up.

It's your choice what poison you want to ingest. But if you held a gun to my forehead and demanded I pick Windows or Mac OS and those were my only choices, I'd pick the latter simply because it wasn't touched by Microsoft.

 

[ZEGA ZONIC]

 

[χKai]

They're both decent depending what you use them for. I think Windows is better for personal use, while Macintosh is better for business structure and commercial planning.

 

[qw90700]

They're both decent depending what you use them for. I think Windows is better for personal use, while Macintosh is better for business structure and commercial planning.

And then in business and stuff they use Windows, and rich people uses an Apple for personal use lol.

For many companies Windows is world-standard in business for many reasons and it start with its cheaper price, common in what people know to use, how whole related education system focuses on how to use a Windows, most of common programs to do tons of stuff on Windows, et cetera.

And then rich people and rich companies, especially the companies in creative industries using an Apple for many reasons. They have iPhone, iPads, Apple Watch, iSmack, iBrain, et cetera lol they constantly use together for personal and business reasons yet compared to Windows users they are very less.

 

[Waffles's iconWaffles]

They are both terrible in their own ways.

Microsoft makes it so programs designed for older versions of Windows choke on Mustard Gas and it's generally hostile towards the user.

Mac... Well, you have to make a lot of investments to get a computer that will get obsolete fast anyway.

 

[Sorion]

recently I moved to Linux after growing frustrated with windows 10 and 11, too much bloatware and software tracking, unreliable performance and stability.

 

[χKai]

And then in business and stuff they use Windows, and rich people uses an Apple for personal use lol.

For many companies Windows is world-standard in business for many reasons and it start with its cheaper price, common in what people know to use, how whole related education system focuses on how to use a Windows, most of common programs to do tons of stuff on Windows, et cetera.

And then rich people and rich companies, especially the companies in creative industries using an Apple for many reasons. They have iPhone, iPads, Apple Watch, iSmack, iBrain, et cetera lol they constantly use together for personal and business reasons yet compared to Windows users they are very less.

Well, there's still plenty of other options available, but most people don't want to put in the 5 minutes of effort to learn a new operating system.

 

[Zerpina]

They are both terrible in their own ways.

Microsoft makes it so programs designed for older versions of Windows choke on Mustard Gas and it's generally hostile towards the user.

Mac... Well, you have to make a lot of investments to get a computer that will get obsolete fast anyway.

Think this sum's it up

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I can't chim in on Mac as I have never even been in the same room with a Mac....

The closest Apple thing I have is an iPod I got from a thrift shop, and I ninja kicked the Apple OS off it and replaced it with Rockbox. That aside, as stated both from what I understand about Macs and from knowing Windows pretty well, I would still say Windows is the worst. Again, it's already been said, but they steal your info, store it, and probably pipeline it off to the FBI and CIA. I don't know how valid that is, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.

I've mentioned in other threads that if it wasn't work related, I wouldn't have a Windows machine period, but that's life. However, Linux is no walk in the park. Yes... even the simplest Linux has a learning curve, but you have to remember, Windows had one as well, same with mac. You didn't just plop down and insta-know how to use Windows as well as you do now. Windows is absolute trash, so is Mac... again, from what I have gleaned from seeing it via YouTube, reading about it, etc.

Linux isn't the monster under your bed or in your closet like it once was. It's just as simple to set up and use Linux for almost anything you can do on Windows now compared to five years ago.

But this isn't a Linux thread. Windows is just an awful bloated corpse of what it once was.
The last time Windows was any good and actually user-friendly and worth a damn was during the XP/7 era.

 

[DrunkGecko]

mac sucks sack

 

[SpcDaicon]

I'm a Apple hater, so I voted Mac.

Unfortunetly Windows is also trash even though I know I lack the technical knowledge to pinpoint whats wrong. I'm mainly a consumer and, as a consumer, I think Win 11 is a downgrade from Win 10. But again, my favorite OS was Windows XP, so take it as you will.

What I abhor with modern OS is they shoving "features" nobody asked for, craming AI everywhere and over connectivity. I just wanted a machine to have my music, anime, play games, browse the internet and basic office stuff without having to be a PhD in computer science to set up a Linux.

 

[Retro Doomer]

I would recomend to use Linux over both of them,but only if you know what you are doing otherwise I am not certain if Mac or Windows is worse as both are less than optimal but I suppose I would pick Windows over Mac mostly because I am used to it and for gaming.

 

[Zerpina]

I'm a Apple hater, so I voted Mac.

Unfortunetly Windows is also trash even though I know I lack the technical knowledge to pinpoint whats wrong. I'm mainly a consumer and, as a consumer, I think Win 11 is a downgrade from Win 10. But again, my favorite OS was Windows XP, so take it as you will.

XP was until I actually had to get 7 for various reasons. 7 turned out to be a really good OS

What I abhor with modern OS is they shoving "features" nobody asked for, craming AI everywhere and over connectivity. I just wanted a machine to have my music, anime, play games, browse the internet and basic office stuff without having to be a PhD in computer science to set up a Linux.

You honestly don't need a PhD to set up Linux. Hell, even Arch (by the way) isn't a draconian process anymore. Take Linux Mint for example. If you can read and follow basic instructions, you can have it up and running (depending on hardware) in about 15-20 minutes and fully set up in a day's time.

Hell, there's even a built in software manager to get you started. Just open it, either click on the category you want or type in what you're looking for.

Hit install, and it'll get everything you need to run it right then and there. Heck, you can even run Linux off the install media without installing it. It'll run a bit slower, yes, but it's a try before you buy thing, ya know.

 

[reila]

Unironically Mac. I had one in middle school and I couldn't run anything except a Shrek Slenderman game While the Tumblr days were fun, I would've preferred emulating games instead of being stuck with an overpriced computer my dad got from the pawn shop. (I hope this didn't sound ungrateful lmao)

That said, I believe people were still using Windows 7/8 in 2015 so of course Mac appeared worse. Now windows has set out to become infinitely worse than Mac and it sadly is. Bloat and datamining, at this point Mac seems like the more simple OS lol. But Chrome OS on the other hand....that dumpsterfire is worse than Mac/Windows combined

 

[thumbsdown]

The worse is being forced to use a computer (voted windows)

 

[CyberRabbit]

You honestly don't need a PhD to set up Linux. Hell, even Arch (by the way) isn't a draconian process anymore. Take Linux Mint for example. If you can read and follow basic instructions, you can have it up and running (depending on hardware) in about 15-20 minutes and fully set up in a day's time.

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Quick question, what’s the best Linux os for beginners?

 

[jankusanagi jankusanagi]

Both things suck big time

 

[Zerpina]

Quick question, what’s the best Linux os for beginners?

I would say Ubuntu, Linux Mint, and Zorin. They are about as close to Windows as you can get, user friendly wise, or at least I think they are. To install them, it's honestly about like installing Windows 10, I think ease wise mind you....

Again yes, you're going to have to learn a new OS... it's not just going to hold your hand. But neither did Windows when you started with it, for the most part. The only downside is the gaming aspect.

You will have to troubleshoot and look up fixes for some things. But really, if you can do troubleshooting on Windows, you can do it on Linux. Almost all Linux forums are friendly and helpful for beginners, at least the ones I have had to go to.

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Edit - what I meant with the gaming part was that some games are a pain in the ass to get to work under Linux but do work. Some games just won't work at all. I think games like Fortnite and others with that specific anti-cheat system that goes with it, and the like....

Now, that's not Linux's fault... that's on the developers, as they don't want to support Linux.