Overhated movies

It’s a good watch. The Phoenix Wright movie I mean. The stage plays are also quite good.
I forgot about the stage play haha! I love how we got many theatre and musical from stuff (like Saint Seiya and even City Hunter).

Pokémon got quite plenty of decent movies (even if they're promotional like the Lucario one).

Just wish we got more adaption from the world and not "human goes in that world that looks weird".

The Monster Hunter movie is a big no for me.
 
I forgot about the stage play haha! I love how we got many theatre and musical from stuff (like Saint Seiya and even City Hunter).

Pokémon got quite plenty of decent movies (even if they're promotional like the Lucario one).

Just wish we got more adaption from the world and not "human goes in that world that looks weird".

The Monster Hunter movie is a big no for me.

Yes! It’s wild. Recently found out about the persona stage plays too haha.

Also To add to your earlier point, yes it is interesting how the pikachu is an adaptation of the spin-off. This is something I’m always surprised is sorta hush hush in the marketing. My guess is that it was meant to promote the game but someone saw gold in prompting it as a general Pokémon movie haha. The ending is pretty sweet though.
 
Garbage Pail Kids. People who say this is the worst movie ever made obviously haven't seen many movies. Yes it's stupid. But it's the right kind of stupid. This was made for the kids that collected the cards and had the stickers all over everything. It's not going to appeal much to anyone else. But it certainly has a place in schlock history. Plus you gotta appreciate those practical special effects.

 
Zardoz is one of my favorite films. I really don't understand the cult following this film has as a "so bad its good" B movie I feel like the people that say that about it haven't seen the actual movie or just didn't give it a chance because of its reputation.
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Zardoz is one of my favorite films. I really don't understand the cult following this film has as a "so bad its good" B movie I feel like the people that say that about it haven't seen the actual movie or just didn't give it a chance because of its reputation.
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Been wanting to watch this one for a while, the premise sounds oddly prescient. Its director, John Boorman, may be one of the most underrated of his kind. He's got a ton of classics under his belt, like Point Blank, Deliverance, and Excalibur, yet he really hasn't gotten the same admiration as the likes of, say, Francis Ford Coppola.
 
Zardoz is one of my favorite films. I really don't understand the cult following this film has as a "so bad its good" B movie I feel like the people that say that about it haven't seen the actual movie or just didn't give it a chance because of its reputation.
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I'm still tempted to watch that weird movie just because Connery is in it haha!
 
By the by, any thoughts on the old Morgan Kombat sequels? Overhated or nah?
 
Been wanting to watch this one for a while, the premise sounds oddly prescient. Its director, John Boorman, may be one of the most underrated of his kind. He's got a ton of classics under his belt, like Point Blank, Deliverance, and Excalibur, yet he really hasn't gotten the same admiration as the likes of, say, Francis Ford Coppola.
Buckle up for a lot of Beethoven's Seventh, probably one of the only good parts of the movie. The dialogue is pretty painful, and Sean Connery seems downright embarrassed to be on screen half the time. Boorman kinda did whatever he wanted with Zardoz, what with the huge success of Deliverance and all, and you can see how some kind of tempering influence would have gone a long way to making something more interesting.
 
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I know that these movies are nowadays loved by people but back when each came out they were divisive and didn't meet the biggest success despite the interesting themes and presentation.

Sure, you could find that Demolition Man still has some cheesy action movie moments, that Escape from LA has the infamous basketball and surfing scenes and that Starship Troopers may have flaws but I'm still glad that these managed to gain a newfound popularity thanks to Internet rediscovering them.

Sometimes something comes too soon.
 
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I know that these movies are nowadays loved by people but back when each came out they were divisive and didn't meet the biggest success despite the interesting themes and presentation.

Sure, you could find that Demolition Man still has some cheesy action movie moments, that Escape from LA has the infamous basketball and surfing scenes and that Starship Troopers may have flaws but I'm still glad that these managed to gain a newfound popularity thanks to Internet rediscovering them.

Sometimes something comes too soon.
starship troopers is weird in the 2000s it was know as an underrated classic bit now its reputation has taken a complete 180 where now i would say its a little overrated. not a bad film just not great. i think the problem i had was reading the novel before i saw the movie. it feels like a parody written by someone that never actually read the novel but has contempt for the author.
 
By the by, any thoughts on the old Morgan Kombat sequels? Overhated or nah?
If anything those old Mortal Kombat movies are underhated, lol. I'm kidding, if someone likes them, I don't care, but to me they fall in the same category as the Monster Hunter movie and the Resident Evil sequels, in that they are very boring and bad in uninteresting and uncreative ways. Definitely not worth getting angry over but also too lame to enjoy in a funny bad way.
Hmmm, I wonder what the common denominator is between most of those movies, hmmm...

Zardoz is kinda wild at times, but also a bit of a slog. It's very quotable though, so worth seeing at least once.

I have nothing but love for demolition man and especially starship troopers. The latter is accidentally the best movie about post-911 America ever made. Escape from LA I find is rated accurately. It's not the worst John Carpenter movie, but considering how good the first one was, it's just a bit sad. I didn't grow up during Carpenter's heyday, but during his career nadir so I didn't have high expectations going in. It's definitely not as bad as Vampires or ghosts of mars though. You can say I hold his classics in high regard but not most of his other filmography.
 
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I know that these movies are nowadays loved by people but back when each came out they were divisive and didn't meet the biggest success despite the interesting themes and presentation.

Sure, you could find that Demolition Man still has some cheesy action movie moments, that Escape from LA has the infamous basketball and surfing scenes and that Starship Troopers may have flaws but I'm still glad that these managed to gain a newfound popularity thanks to Internet rediscovering them.

Sometimes something comes too soon.
It definitely flew under my radar that people disliked demolition man. I know about the PENIS!!!!! Though
 
I actually know why this is! Prior to about 1997 or so, the prevailing idea in children's entertainment was that it needed to be "whimsical" to stoke imagination and curiosity. This is why a lot of children's movies and TV shows from the late 20th century put tons of effort into writing and animation (some more than others, of course), because the people making them assumed that was what children were interested in. This is why a lot of those shows, books, and movies are still remembered fondly and enjoyed by full-grown adults today.

In the late '90s, though, what was actually discovered in the field of child psychology is that kids prefer media that's scientifically developed and adjusted to their immediate wants – i.e. lots of colours, context-free noise, and repetition. This is a hypothesis that was tested several times through shows like the Teletubbies, Barney, and the modern incarnation of Sesame Street, which have teams of researchers behind both the development of the shows and the writing of every episode.

It's been academically proven that this new kind of media is better for helping kids develop motor skills and capacitive memory, so, objectively speaking, it's "healthier" for them than something like The Secret of NIMH. Of course, the downside is that they have precisely zero appeal for adults, but there's so much money in kids that it doesn't matter, and, well... here we are. 🐣 People who were born in the 80s and the first half of the 90s grew up with very, very different children's media than what exists today, and their expectations are wildly-different from reality.
This is fascinating. I've never heard this before but it makes sense. If thats the case I cant help but feel like today's kids are being robbed of shows they can appreciate later in life for more than just nostalgia. My favorite movie as a small child was "The Neverending Story" and I can absolutely go back and appreciate/enjoy it today. You're right; 80s shows stoked the imagination.
 
Hmmmm so I try not to let this devolve into “silly adults shouldn’t get mad at kidz movies” but chicken little really wasn’t that bad.
 
@Ikaruga Well I know for sure that Demolition Man was pretty well-liked on release, and as far as I've seen that's never changed. Wesley Snipes was on fucking fire in the 90's, and Simon Phoenix was no exception.

Escape from L.A. is the only one that was pretty much hated outright, and as a pretty underwhelming far removed sequel that just rehashes the original but with shitty special effects....well yeah, even Carpenter has bad movies.
 
starship troopers is weird in the 2000s it was know as an underrated classic bit now its reputation has taken a complete 180 where now i would say its a little overrated. not a bad film just not great. i think the problem i had was reading the novel before i saw the movie. it feels like a parody written by someone that never actually read the novel but has contempt for the author.
The power of the Internet for you... I even think people are overplaying too much on Metal Gear Rising (without even actually playing it).

I still ended up reading the book after watching the movie but I cannot blame Verhoeven's interpretation of the novel because of how much more technical it was. I still liked the satirical take because I enjoy his directing style but I wouldn't have said no for a much more faithful military sci-fi movie (which somehow reminds me of how Halo among other games and series got some inspiration from the novel and movie).

At least the anime is closer to the original with the exo-suits.

@Ikaruga Well I know for sure that Demolition Man was pretty well-liked on release, and as far as I've seen that's never changed. Wesley Snipes was on fucking fire in the 90's, and Simon Phoenix was no exception.
Maybe I misunderstood and thought that people were getting bored of action movies but you're right about Snipes.

I still liked the subversion that LA did with some of its elements.

Hmmmm so I try not to let this devolve into “silly adults shouldn’t get mad at kidz movies” but chicken little really wasn’t that bad.
I would argue that even if a movie is aimed at a younger audience quality shouldn't be missed.

I feel that there's a general belief that "it's for kids therefore it's not as good" when something does not aim to reach the adult audience or just trying to be mature looking.
 
oh I really wasn’t heading towards that with my message. The thing between quotations was intended to be facetious, my actual honest comment is that I don’t dislike the movie. But its not something I have much to expand on with so I sprinkled a short referential joke meant as a callback to a different comment in this thread. @Ikagura
 
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Leatherface (2017).
I mean, it isn't perfect, but works as a Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) prequel.
Many people didn't like how Leatherface came to be Leatherface, but it makes sense and didn't derail the character, not even one bit. Everything's there.

And, unlike Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2022), it's noticeable how cherished the franchise is for the filmmakers of this one.
 
Clash of the TItans and Wrath of the Titans from the 2010's.
Yeah I found them both pretty fun, I may have actually enjoyed the second one a teensy bit more. I think the big albatros around the series' neck was Sam Worthington. He seems like a decent enough bloke, but for the life of me I don't understand why everyone was banking on him becoming a huge star in the late 2000s. He looks like he was produced by the same cloning facility that made Jai Courtney.
 
Yeah I found them both pretty fun, I may have actually enjoyed the second one a teensy bit more. I think the big albatros around the series' neck was Sam Worthington. He seems like a decent enough bloke, but for the life of me I don't understand why everyone was banking on him becoming a huge star in the late 2000s. He looks like he was produced by the same cloning facility that made Jai Courtney.
I was about to say "Sounds like SOMEBODY hasn't seen Warrior!" and then saw Joel Edgerton on the poster and forgot he's another identical white guy that I mix up, same facility probably.

(Edgerton can totally act though)
 

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