Non-Gaming Hot Takes

[Prism_Red]

Well I think 2 more people are needed as I said if 8 say yes then I would gladly do so

Make it 1 more.

 

[Ikagura]

I have few "hot takes" regarding NSFW content and its normalisation among the youth but I think it might stir up a heated discussion unless you guys want to hear them (8 people say yes then I will do) I'm going to keep them to myself.

Normal people wouldn't let young ones getting easy access but in the same time having to put your ID or credit card on sites to tell you're over 18 is weirdly a red flag to me.

Parents are supposed to check what they're doing on the net to begin with (but sadly the generation that let theirs on the iPad without checking should get some discipline).

Unless you say youth as in young adults which I'd be curious to hear about it.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

All right I said if 8 want to hear it then I would do the number came to be true and I shall voice my "hot take" on it here we go:

The normalization of NSFW: back in school you would do it for the "LOLs" oh shi guys look at me I watch +18 content im cool!!! , it applies to the wide internet where the joke is "here is my porn/hentai addiction presented as a funny meme" instead of trying to remedy the problem they take pride in an addiction that makes you awkward in fact very awkward around women , makes you suffer from unimaginably high standards that are borderline imaginary.......and people on the net have no shame posting the sort of deranged shit they watch for all of mankind to see like look im not gonna stop you from watching whatever you want but DONT and NEVER post it in public its something between you and yourself im sure most don't and aren't interested in knowing what stuff you beat your meat to alright? And NSFW artists I hope you burn in hell.....your work does nothing but feed a miserable addiction that makes people even more miserable than before , my generation (gen Z) and their playgrounds are filled to the prim with such easy to access content its not just kids who stumble into it and develop a long addiction but so do young adults and what does the internet do? Nothing.....its seen as normal in the internet moral grey ground and its sickening to see such content normalized and distributed among my fellow GEN Zers.

In case you aren't aware the porn industry preys on vulnerable girls to introduce them to a dark path where they sell their very soul on camera , not to mention the sort of bullying that can happen in it where an actress took her own life cuz of it , and even one actress got killed because she spoke up what sort of stuff happens in it.

We should stop acting like distributing sexual content around is normal and cool you aren't a "man of culture" you are an addict who has no shame what he does.

Oh and I know most of us here are guys and im sure most of you know what im talking about and don't even attempt at reasoning with about this there is no "but" here ok? I hope that's clear.

 

[Tonberry]

All right I said if 8 want to hear it then I would do the number came to be true and I shall voice my "hot take" on it here we go:

The normalization of NSFW: back in school you would do it for the "LOLs" oh shi guys look at me I watch +18 content im cool!!! , it applies to the wide internet where the joke is "here is my porn/hentai addiction presented as a funny meme" instead of trying to remedy the problem they take pride in an addiction that makes you awkward in fact very awkward around women , makes you suffer from unimaginably high standards that are borderline imaginary.......and people on the net have no shame posting the sort of deranged shit they watch for all of mankind to see like look im not gonna stop you from watching whatever you want but DONT and NEVER post it in public its something between you and yourself im sure most don't and aren't interested in knowing what stuff you beat your meat to alright? And NSFW artists I hope you burn in hell.....your work does nothing but feed a miserable addiction that makes people even more miserable than before , my generation (gen Z) and their playgrounds are filled to the prim with such easy to access content its not just kids who stumble into it and develop a long addiction but so do young adults and what does the internet do? Nothing.....its seen as normal in the internet moral grey ground and its sickening to see such content normalized and distributed among my fellow GEN Zers.

In case you aren't aware the porn industry preys on vulnerable girls to introduce them to a dark path where they sell their very soul on camera , not to mention the sort of bullying that can happen in it where an actress took her own life cuz of it , and even one actress got killed because she spoke up what sort of stuff happens in it.

We should stop acting like distributing sexual content around is normal and cool you aren't a "man of culture" you are an addict who has no shame what he does.

Oh and I know most of us here are guys and im sure most of you know what im talking about and don't even attempt at reasoning with about this there is no "but" here ok? I hope that's clear.

The porn industry is evil and should be destroyed, but consuming non-industrial pornography in moderation and in an ethically conscious way is a way for people to explore their sexuality in a safe environment.

It’s generally less black-and-white than you say, though there are definitely problems, but the claims about how supposedly unhealthy it is to consume are generally overblown because it’s extremely dependent on the person consuming it.

 

[Inkingsama]

All right I said if 8 want to hear it then I would do the number came to be true and I shall voice my "hot take" on it here we go:

The normalization of NSFW: back in school you would do it for the "LOLs" oh shi guys look at me I watch +18 content im cool!!! , it applies to the wide internet where the joke is "here is my porn/hentai addiction presented as a funny meme" instead of trying to remedy the problem they take pride in an addiction that makes you awkward in fact very awkward around women , makes you suffer from unimaginably high standards that are borderline imaginary.......and people on the net have no shame posting the sort of deranged shit they watch for all of mankind to see like look im not gonna stop you from watching whatever you want but DONT and NEVER post it in public its something between you and yourself im sure most don't and aren't interested in knowing what stuff you beat your meat to alright? And NSFW artists I hope you burn in hell.....your work does nothing but feed a miserable addiction that makes people even more miserable than before , my generation (gen Z) and their playgrounds are filled to the prim with such easy to access content its not just kids who stumble into it and develop a long addiction but so do young adults and what does the internet do? Nothing.....its seen as normal in the internet moral grey ground and its sickening to see such content normalized and distributed among my fellow GEN Zers.

In case you aren't aware the porn industry preys on vulnerable girls to introduce them to a dark path where they sell their very soul on camera , not to mention the sort of bullying that can happen in it where an actress took her own life cuz of it , and even one actress got killed because she spoke up what sort of stuff happens in it.

We should stop acting like distributing sexual content around is normal and cool you aren't a "man of culture" you are an addict who has no shame what he does.

Oh and I know most of us here are guys and im sure most of you know what im talking about and don't even attempt at reasoning with about this there is no "but" here ok? I hope that's clear.

The problem with pornography is that it became easily accesible. Gone are the days of waiting till midnight to see some action on TV, and even then, some tame stuff compared to the things that are made today.

I'd say that banning pornography solves nothing because trying to kill it will make it stronger, i think that it would be smarter to restrict what is shown (somehow), dial it back you know. The widespread appearance of porn in the net can be blamed on tumblr banning NSFW content on their website. They opened the floodgates and all those people, creators and consumers alike, started popping up everywhere. Reddit is banning NSFW subreddits, or so i've heard, so maybe we will see a second flood of porn.

I don't think porn is inherently bad per se, as Tonberry said, it can be a safe way of exploring sexuality but everything depends on the content itself. I also think it leads to the cosification of girls and boys alike, it dehumanizes the people on camera. Onlyfans should get nuked.

The gist of the matter is 3D sucks, read vanilla doujins, they double as love stories (sometimes).

 

[MasterEn]

All right I said if 8 want to hear it then I would do the number came to be true and I shall voice my "hot take" on it here we go:

The normalization of NSFW: back in school you would do it for the "LOLs" oh shi guys look at me I watch +18 content im cool!!! , it applies to the wide internet where the joke is "here is my porn/hentai addiction presented as a funny meme" instead of trying to remedy the problem they take pride in an addiction that makes you awkward in fact very awkward around women , makes you suffer from unimaginably high standards that are borderline imaginary.......and people on the net have no shame posting the sort of deranged shit they watch for all of mankind to see like look im not gonna stop you from watching whatever you want but DONT and NEVER post it in public its something between you and yourself im sure most don't and aren't interested in knowing what stuff you beat your meat to alright? And NSFW artists I hope you burn in hell.....your work does nothing but feed a miserable addiction that makes people even more miserable than before , my generation (gen Z) and their playgrounds are filled to the prim with such easy to access content its not just kids who stumble into it and develop a long addiction but so do young adults and what does the internet do? Nothing.....its seen as normal in the internet moral grey ground and its sickening to see such content normalized and distributed among my fellow GEN Zers.

In case you aren't aware the porn industry preys on vulnerable girls to introduce them to a dark path where they sell their very soul on camera , not to mention the sort of bullying that can happen in it where an actress took her own life cuz of it , and even one actress got killed because she spoke up what sort of stuff happens in it.

We should stop acting like distributing sexual content around is normal and cool you aren't a "man of culture" you are an addict who has no shame what he does.

Oh and I know most of us here are guys and im sure most of you know what im talking about and don't even attempt at reasoning with about this there is no "but" here ok? I hope that's clear.

the normalization thing has been happening since magazines and video tapes existed. it's easier to share stuff like that today because of nearly every phone being a small computer.
a lot of research that i've done over the years has yielded some interesting results. it probably wouldn't be a good idea to go on about them here, it might break the rules; but to be brief with it. a lot of guys resort to hentai and the like after failing miserably trying to do what everyone in society tells them to do to get a woman interested in them. failure after failure and unnecessarily harsh rejections will discourage someone from doing something. a lot of guys don't hold doors open for women under 50 because they bitch at them. ultimately, they come to the conclusion that its better to avoid women and just stay by themselves and use spicy content to take care of their needs.
i feel a bit personally attack by the "burn in hell" part. quite a bit of my art in my gallery on deviantart gets hit by a content filter of some sort, but when i look and see what gets it, it seems almost random. so, i don't know what that really says about me or the site.
the women aren't guilt free either. a lot of them don't mind doing that stuff since it gets them attention and that seems to be more important than nearly anything besides money. the points that you mentioned are still valid, but nowadays, moral standards don't matter much to the young ones. they only end up caring when it is fully impossible to undo the damage, which is usually around 40-50; and at that point, its too late.
a lot of this can be corrected quite easily by bring back moral standards for both sides, and shaming people for openly parading this stuff like its normal and healthy. you can't get rid of porn, it's natural to want to look at that stuff, but the best approach would probably to handle the subject neutrally. making something mystical, forbidden or taboo is just making something more intriguing and alluring to a person; which just makes them want it more, even if they don't like it or want it. make it boring, and they will probably lose interest.

 

[Somnia]

Saturday Night Wrist is Deftone's best work. While I love Adrenaline, Fur and White Pony the direction they went in for this record - even if unintentional - felt so inspired. Chino's personal woes led to some of his most melancholic and defeated lyrics yet which when coupled with the bands more varied soundscape leads to an album that really feels like a grand goodbye (and it almost was due to band infighting at the time). Switching from turntables to piano/synths was brilliant for the mood on many songs like Xerces and Reviere.

Its chaotic, its experimental and its super eclectic. It is the sound of the band giving up and while the story behind its creation is heartbreaking it resulted in one helluva record.

Cherry Waves remains the best Chino vocal performance and my favorite Deftones song full stop.

 

[Prism_Red]

All right I said if 8 want to hear it then I would do the number came to be true and I shall voice my "hot take" on it here we go:

The normalization of NSFW: back in school you would do it for the "LOLs" oh shi guys look at me I watch +18 content im cool!!! , it applies to the wide internet where the joke is "here is my porn/hentai addiction presented as a funny meme" instead of trying to remedy the problem they take pride in an addiction that makes you awkward in fact very awkward around women , makes you suffer from unimaginably high standards that are borderline imaginary.......and people on the net have no shame posting the sort of deranged shit they watch for all of mankind to see like look im not gonna stop you from watching whatever you want but DONT and NEVER post it in public its something between you and yourself im sure most don't and aren't interested in knowing what stuff you beat your meat to alright? And NSFW artists I hope you burn in hell.....your work does nothing but feed a miserable addiction that makes people even more miserable than before , my generation (gen Z) and their playgrounds are filled to the prim with such easy to access content its not just kids who stumble into it and develop a long addiction but so do young adults and what does the internet do? Nothing.....its seen as normal in the internet moral grey ground and its sickening to see such content normalized and distributed among my fellow GEN Zers.

In case you aren't aware the porn industry preys on vulnerable girls to introduce them to a dark path where they sell their very soul on camera , not to mention the sort of bullying that can happen in it where an actress took her own life cuz of it , and even one actress got killed because she spoke up what sort of stuff happens in it.

We should stop acting like distributing sexual content around is normal and cool you aren't a "man of culture" you are an addict who has no shame what he does.

Oh and I know most of us here are guys and im sure most of you know what im talking about and don't even attempt at reasoning with about this there is no "but" here ok? I hope that's clear.

My personal take as a self-proclaimed porno connoisseur, NSFW normalization happen because lack of education and supervision, sexuality is part of human nature, and as someone used to say, we can't always fight nature, we can't fight change, we can't fight gravity, we can't fight nothing.

Wait don't jump into an open water yet, lemme finish.

I believe that is the main purpose of sex-ed, kids WILL learn about these eventually, and so it is adults' duty to make sure to steer the young ones to learn about sexuality in a healthy manner. How it became normalized in younger generations now is a sign that we as society fails to introduce this particular aspect of human nature properly, thus they learn and/or gained information from another source that's not always credible or safe. Also due to it's sensitive nature, it is indeed hard to talk about this kind of topic openly in public without anyone around giving you a side eye.
Now I'm not saying we should start acting like a creep openly, every kind of topic, not just NSFW stuff, has it's time and place to discuss.

Pron has always existed in the internet since it's inception, we can't control them, but we can control ourselves and we can control the way we react to it, instead of hiding this kind of thing to the young generations, we should teach them how to approach such sensitive topic healthily.

Oh, and don't kink shame.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

You know what I remembered another hot take if you gonna call it that

WINTER SUCKS SUMMER IS BETTER

Winter is constantly cold you can't go outside much especially if it constantly rains around your place , summer feels energetic and good for adventure you just go and explore stuff also summer has better fruits.

Fanfiction is mostly stupid: some of the worst writing that makes me face palm has to be fan fiction who told you that if you are a fan of something you can write well about it? Absolutely mid or dogshit.

 

[Ikagura]

And NSFW artists I hope you burn in hell.....your work does nothing but feed a miserable addiction that makes people even more miserable than before

So you want artists to not have freedom of creativity and want their content to be monitored? So you would want even non sexual nudity (or just the upper side exposed) to be censored or removed? There are many antique art having people in their birthday suit.

I feel that it was what some puritans were saying about counter-cultures like when there were artists that wanted to break convention of what art was about when it became standardised.

And sorry but I'll be honest, it's like blaming the existence of casinos and gambling for people to have gambling addiction. NSFW artists (or even people that sell alcohol or tobacco) aren't responsible for people who lack self-control since they're adults.

It's the same for people with an OnlyFans, you're free to not spend any dime on that.

Oh, and don't kink shame.

As long as it's legal and between two (or more) consenting parties that are sober/conscious adults over 18 that have proper protection if they're not sure about the other*

 

[Asian girls loverAsian girls lover's icon]

And NSFW artists I hope you burn in hell.....your work does nothing but feed a miserable addiction that makes people even more miserable than before , my generation (gen Z) and their playgrounds are filled to the prim with such easy to access content its not just kids who stumble into it and develop a long addiction but so do young adults and what does the internet do? Nothing.....its seen as normal in the internet moral grey ground and its sickening to see such content normalized and distributed among my fellow GEN Zers.

In case you aren't aware the porn industry preys on vulnerable girls to introduce them to a dark path where they sell their very soul on camera , not to mention the sort of bullying that can happen in it where an actress took her own life cuz of it , and even one actress got killed because she spoke up what sort of stuff happens in it.

We should stop acting like distributing sexual content around is normal and cool you aren't a "man of culture" you are an addict who has no shame what he does.

Oh and I know most of us here are guys and im sure most of you know what im talking about and don't even attempt at reasoning with about this there is no "but" here ok? I hope that's clear.

This sound like a religious denial.
It's people's fault if they get addict to porn, not artists'.

 

[Ikagura]

This sound like a religious denial.
It's people's fault if they get addict to porn, not artists'.

On the other hand when an artist that does nsfw stuff make a sfw thing people will refer to their nsfw even in relatively public sites like Youtube and I'm legitimately like "shut up, there are probably kids that may read those comments here."

Even if the meme about "it's like seeing your weed dealer at the store" is kinda funny anyone normal would either ignore or act as if they're a normal person.



Funfact: even some great artists produced nsfw content at some point in their lives or hidden in archives until they passed away.

 

[fake-kun]

On the other hand when an artist that does nsfw stuff make a sfw thing people will refer to their nsfw even in relatively public sites like Youtube and I'm legitimately like "shut up, there are probably kids that may read those comments here."

Even if the meme about "it's like seeing your weed dealer at the store" is kinda funny anyone normal would either ignore or act as if they're a normal person.



Funfact: even some great artists produced nsfw content at some point in their lives or hidden in archives until they passed away.

Honestly, this is one of the reasons I never show people my creative writings. I don't want be constantly hounded by "Hey, don't you write PRON???"

 

[Ikagura]

Honestly, this is one of the reasons I never show people my creative writings. I don't want be constantly hounded by "Hey, don't you write PORN???"

Also this may explain why some artist are using aliases instead of the same pseudonym. At least even if you could guess that it's the same person behind at least there's an ambiguity on the person.

I read somewhere that in Japan if you wrote nsfw mangas you will have a harder time getting into a mainstream publishing if they do a background check on you.

Same reason why some jobs are closed to you if you even did one single thing (even to finance your studies). If someone notices what you did you're basically done for...

I think I'll feel bad for kids who had one of their parent on OF... personally I would feel embarrassed to even see the videos of a friend's parent so by principle I'd avoid it but sadly people aren't that scrupulous nowadays.

This sound like a religious denial.
It's people's fault if they get addict to porn, not artists'.

I appreciate you but sadly with that name and pfp I think your argument is a bit weakened as much as I do agree with that.

 

[Prism_Red]

You know what I remembered another hot take if you gonna call it that

WINTER SUCKS SUMMER IS BETTER

I'll do one better, to borrow a quote from someone:
Winter sucks, it's cold outside, better to stay inside and play video games.
Spring sucks, pollen everywhere, people getting allergies and sneeze everywhere, better stay inside and play video games.
Summer sucks, it's too hot and you can get heat stroke, better stay inside and play video games.
Fall sucks, windy, dusty, leaves falling all over the place, better stay inside and play video games.

And sorry but I'll be honest, it's like blaming the existence of casinos and gambling for people to have gambling addiction. NSFW artists (or even people that sell alcohol or tobacco) aren't responsible for people who lack self-control since they're adults.

It's the same for people with an OnlyFans, you're free to not spend any dime on that.

Half agree, they've got to have regulations on their part as well, age verification for example, albeit ineffective, is an example of one. While places like casinos have bouncers and security guard akin as some sort of protection, this is near impossible to do online without a breach of privacy involved.

 

[Asian girls loverAsian girls lover's icon]

I appreciate you but sadly with that name and pfp I think your argument is a bit weakened as much as I do agree with that.

What does that should be mean?? What does my nick has to with the argument in question?

 

[99nereids]

my hot take is that all of those life sized gardevoir dolls need to be rounded up and sent to the same landfill the unsold copies of the E.T Atari game went to. perhaps over time they’d all congeal together into some sort of eldritch horror, somehow far scarier than wanting to a pokemon. That’s all I can hope for

 

[Ikagura]

Half agree, they've got to have regulations on their part as well, age verification for example, albeit ineffective, is an example of one. While places like casinos have bouncers and security guard akin as some sort of protection, this is near impossible to do online without a breach of privacy involved.

Then where are the parents? Are artists responsible when almost every say "Minor DNI/+18 account"? Even Twitter started to censor nsfw content unless you're logged in.

Anyway I'd argue that even old cartoon artists had some suggestive jokes or even scenes like in Tex Avery (especially regarding a Red Hood) and some Merry Melodies with an actual "performer" getting rotoscoped.

my hot take is that all of those life sized gardevoir dolls need to be rounded up and sent to the same landfill the unsold copies of the E.T Atari game went to. perhaps over time they’d all congeal together into some sort of eldritch horror, somehow far scarier than wanting to

a pokemon. That’s all I can hope for

Then add up the Lucario ones heh.

 

[Prism_Red]

Then where are the parents? Are artists responsible when almost every say "Minor DNI/+18 account"? Even Twitter started to censor nsfw content unless you're logged in.

Anyway I'd argue that even old cartoon artists had some suggestive jokes or even scenes like in Tex Avery (especially regarding a Red Hood) and some Merry Melodies with an actual "performer" getting rotoscoped.


Then add up the Lucario ones heh.

Can't exactly point finger here, they all need to exist.
The guardians to make sure their kids don't have easy access to saucy stuff, the artist to at least try to prevent minors to access their saucy stuff, AND the kids themselves to develop self-awareness and maturity to handle such thing responsibly, trouble comes when one of these doesn't work.

Thus my earlier argument about sex-ed, rather than keeping kids off NSFW subject entirely, we should educate them instead, let 'em approach it in a controlled environment so if bad things do happen, both the guardians or the artist have the capability to minimize the damage.

 

[Ikagura]

Can't exactly point finger here, they all need to exist.
The guardians to make sure their kids don't have easy access to saucy stuff, the artist to at least try to prevent minors to access their saucy stuff, AND the kids themselves to develop self-awareness and maturity to handle such thing responsibly, trouble comes when one of these doesn't work.

Even if you lie about being 18 I think it's mostly for the legality of it (like saying that "The event and person portrayed are fictional, anything that may be real is purely coincidental" or "any person portrayed in this piece of media are adults over 18").

I understand why artists are putting this, mostly to not get accused of showing inappropriate content to young ones.

Thus my earlier argument about sex-ed, rather than keeping kids off NSFW subject entirely, we should educate them instead, let 'em approach it in a controlled environment so if bad things do happen, both the guardians or the artist have the capability to minimize the damage.

I heard that S-E is quite bad in some states (especially regarding promoting abstinence over telling how to protect and prevent disease spreading or unwanted pregnancy).


But then it's a cultural thing, I know that even breastfeeding is seen as inappropriate despite being the primary function of these (there was a french movie opening with a scene which is important to the plot about how, despite not being biologically related, are still brothers since they had the same caretaker).

 

[Prism_Red]

Even if you lie about being 18 I think it's mostly for the legality of it (like saying that "The event and person portrayed are fictional, anything that may be real is purely coincidental" or "any person portrayed in this piece of media are adults over 18").

I understand why artists are putting this, mostly to not get accused of showing inappropriate content to young ones.

Yep, I might be wrong but I believe there is an actual law regarding this. Like the corn sites are not allowed to operate if they don't put out a warning.

I heard that S-E is quite bad in some states (especially regarding promoting abstinence over telling how to protect and prevent disease spreading or unwanted pregnancy).


But then it's a cultural thing, I know that even breastfeeding is seen as inappropriate despite being the primary function of these (there was a french movie opening with a scene which is important to the plot about how, despite not being biologically related, are still brothers since they had the same caretaker).

Yeah culture definitely has a hand in all this. I'm from a country where S-E is almost non-existent and the government went way overboard on handling inappropriate stuff, they censored small cleavages and belly button on TV, heck, they outright cut out every part of Spongebob episodes where Sandy appears in bikini.
Guess what happened? My country is in top 15 most frequent corn sites visitor and sexual harassment is pretty rampant you would see news about it at least twice a month.

 

[Ikagura]

Yep, I might be wrong but I believe there is an actual law regarding this. Like the corn sites are not allowed to operate if they don't put out a warning.

As much as it's a bad filter I'd take that over showing ID or a credit card to have access on these sites. Privacy is an important thing online even if the IP can get accessed easily.

Yeah culture definitely has a hand in all this. I'm from a country where S-E is almost non-existent and the government went way overboard on handling inappropriate stuff, they censored small cleavages and belly button on TV, heck, they outright cut out every part of Spongebob episodes where Sandy appears in bikini.

Lmao, sorry it's not about you but Sandy is actually one of the rare 90's female character that was both non sexualised nor becoming the girlfriend of the protagonist which is sadly hard to do since back in the 90's a female had to be sensual in some way (hey Lara) or systematically becoming the gf (hello Moonlighting) when a (heterosexual) guy and gal can be just friend without anything else.

It reminds me of 4kids censoring many things, including text on anything.

Guess what happened? My country is in top 15 most frequent corn sites visitor and sexual harassment is pretty rampant you would see news about it at least twice a month.

The reverse psychology effect.

Sadly harassment of the kind is also rampant in Japan because it's quite a conservative value society....

 

[Tonberry]

Everyone knows fall/autumn is the best season anyway ?

 

[Ikagura]

Everyone knows fall/autumn is the best season anyway ?

I love Autumn themed levels in games.

Especially in lowpoly or pixel art.


The only downside about this season is that it's raining more often than usual.

 

[Tonberry]

I love Autumn themed levels in games.

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Especially in lowpoly or pixel art.


The only downside about this season is that it's raining more often than usual.

What’s the second pic? Looks really cool.