Mega Man Megathread

What a goober. /affectionate
Again, thanks for reminding me Megaman exists. I feel like a kid when I look up cool images of the characters I've forgotten about.

This like my favorite one ever, love their little robot joints:
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Again, thanks for reminding me Megaman exists. I feel like a kid when I look up cool images of the characters I've forgotten about.

This like my favorite one ever, love their little robot joints:
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You're welcome!

Personally, I'm quite fond of this one:

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Bass and Shadow, a misunderstood connection​


Character comparisons are unavoidable evil. They can be healthy and harmless fun, and it would be naive to assume they’re all bad or they all should be stopped. However this is one example where they can be taken to a silly extreme, and be given completely based on visual bias (they both have a black colour scheme).

It’s more harmful when it’s two popular series with a similarly large cast. Sonic has an ungodly amount of characters, so this was bound to happen. But the problem here stems from two fandoms that don’t really interact much. What’s worse, sonic fans misunderstand their own material alone, so they have no right interpreting other franchises.

But who’s Shadow and why was he created?​

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Ignore the extreme ugly character right next to him.

So Shadow was made so he’d help cure Maria’s seemingly fatal disease, and eventually rebelled against humans once Gerald (his creator) was being arrested and Maria got caught in the crossfire and died like a bitch.

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Sonic X discussing child murder. Yes, really.
so anyways, Shadow became means to an end. “Waaahh, humans killed my only family, I’m gonna become so broody and edgy now…”
Except the dumbass forgot that wasn’t what Maria’s dying words was. She wanted him to forgive and protect.
So he was like “oh ok I guess humans are cool now”.

then he fell to the earth and died like a bitch. The end.

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No, sadly that’s not where it ends. He survives… unfortunately. Then uhh, he gets amnesia and becomes broody again
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Can you already tell that’s zero similarities between him and bass? I don’t even need to explain anything on Bass’s side, the differences here are that self-evident

But anyways…
Then some alien guy comes and says
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“So, you’re an alien too, huh?”


Don’t ask where the clip is from. I’m too embarrassed to say where.
Then Shadow goes on this gigantic quest in a game to unlock 10 endings that all led to one ending… somehow (inFamous did this better) and he has ten personalities because sonic loves bloating its cast so much, it created a million versions of one character.

LITERALLY.
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After this, shadow starts working for the president (I’m not kidding) and becomes a cop for the government that killed his family (damn I guess he got amnesia again). The end.
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Yeah, the President has a framed portrait of sonic and shadow, because…
 

Bass and Shadow, a misunderstood connection​


Character comparisons are unavoidable evil. They can be healthy and harmless fun, and it would be naive to assume they’re all bad or they all should be stopped. However this is one example where they can be taken to a silly extreme, and be given completely based on visual bias (they both have a black colour scheme).

It’s more harmful when it’s two popular series with a similarly large cast. Sonic has an ungodly amount of characters, so this was bound to happen. But the problem here stems from two fandoms that don’t really interact much. What’s worse, sonic fans misunderstand their own material alone, so they have no right interpreting other franchises.

But who’s Shadow and why was he created?​

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Ignore the extreme ugly character right next to him.

So Shadow was made so he’d help cure Maria’s seemingly fatal disease, and eventually rebelled against humans once Gerald (his creator) was being arrested and Maria got caught in the crossfire and died like a bitch.

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Sonic X discussing child murder. Yes, really.
so anyways, Shadow became means to an end. “Waaahh, humans killed my only family, I’m gonna become so broody and edgy now…”
Except the dumbass forgot that wasn’t what Maria’s dying words was. She wanted him to forgive and protect.
So he was like “oh ok I guess humans are cool now”.

then he fell to the earth and died like a bitch. The end.


No, sadly that’s not where it ends. He survives… unfortunately. Then uhh, he gets amnesia and becomes broody again
Can you already tell that’s zero similarities between him and bass? I don’t even need to explain anything on Bass’s side, the differences here are that self-evident

But anyways…
Then some alien guy comes and says
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“So, you’re an alien too, huh?”
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Don’t ask where the clip is from. I’m too embarrassed to say where.
Then Shadow goes on this gigantic quest in a game to unlock 10 endings that all led to one ending… somehow (inFamous did this better) and he has ten personalities because sonic loves bloating its cast so much, it created a million versions of one character.

LITERALLY.
After this, shadow starts working for the president (I’m not kidding) and becomes a cop for the government that killed his family (damn I guess he got amnesia again). The end.
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Yeah, the President has a framed portrait of sonic and shadow, because…
Well, at least he's cute.
 
Can you already tell that’s zero similarities between him and bass? I don’t even need to explain anything on Bass’s side, the differences here are that self-evident

Actually, there's one similarity between them, and that's that their personalities change between games.
 
Actually, there's one similarity between them, and that's that their personalities change between games.
Ohhhh that one totally slipped my mind. I should’ve mentioned it.
 
My Mega Man experience started with the Mega Man X Collection on Gamecube. I started with X1 and I really enjoyed it. Then I've played and beaten X2 and X3, I've at least played X4 and X5, X6... is bogged down by questionable design choices. Then I got the Anniversary Collection which had 1-8 and the 2 Arcade games, and really enjoyed them, and then I had 9 and 10 on Wii, and enjoyed them as well. I've also played and beaten the 5 GB Mega Man games, and I've played Legends 1. I do have X Legacy Collection 2 on Switch, but the only game I've played on it so far is X8, which I find pretty decent, but also really frustrating at points (Dynasty).
 
I've been digging Mega Man & Bass for some time, and while it may be insanely hard, it got a really good ost. The one that was stuck in my head for a long time (and still is) is the intro theme, and especially remix from PrincessZelda2020
 
I remember thinking back in '02 after finishing the second game that Legends 3 would be coming out at any moment.. ::unhappy
 
I remember thinking back in '02 after finishing the second game that Legends 3 would be coming out at any moment.. ::unhappy
Yeah, I'm sure everyone thought a sequel was a foregone conclusion.
 
Voted. Even if we can't get Legends 3, Rockman Dash 1 & 2's existing PC ports getting the GOG treatment would be excellent.
 
My Mega Man experience started with the Mega Man X Collection on Gamecube. I started with X1 and I really enjoyed it. Then I've played and beaten X2 and X3, I've at least played X4 and X5, X6... is bogged down by questionable design choices. Then I got the Anniversary Collection which had 1-8 and the 2 Arcade games, and really enjoyed them, and then I had 9 and 10 on Wii, and enjoyed them as well. I've also played and beaten the 5 GB Mega Man games, and I've played Legends 1. I do have X Legacy Collection 2 on Switch, but the only game I've played on it so far is X8, which I find pretty decent, but also really frustrating at points (Dynasty).
You didn't miss much skipping x7.

If/when you play Legends 2 I strongly recommend the patched version here, not tried it yet but wish I had played this version, as it improves a very grating section of the game:

Finally don't forget to try the Megaman Zero series. It's one of the reasons (as well as aria of sorrow, and metroid fusion) that I rate the GBA as the best handheld of all time.
 
You didn't miss much skipping x7.

If/when you play Legends 2 I strongly recommend the patched version here, not tried it yet but wish I had played this version, as it improves a very grating section of the game:

Finally don't forget to try the Megaman Zero series. It's one of the reasons (as well as aria of sorrow, and metroid fusion) that I rate the GBA as the best handheld of all time.
I will keep that Legends 2 patch in mind.

Isn't the Zero series the most ball-bustingly hard one, or is that just the first game?
 
I will keep that Legends 2 patch in mind.

Isn't the Zero series the most ball-bustingly hard one, or is that just the first game?

It's only hard if you don't use Cyber Elves.
 
Oh, because I've seen videos from J's Reviews and KNIJohn about how Zero 1 wants you to build up your Cyber Elves to help you out, but then the game punishes you for using the Elves by lowering your rank, which seems counter-productive.
 
Oh, because I've seen videos from J's Reviews and KNIJohn about how Zero 1 wants you to build up your Cyber Elves to help you out, but then the game punishes you for using the Elves by lowering your rank, which seems counter-productive.

Yeah. It's like Inti Creates realized that Cyber Elves were OP, but instead of tweaking or removing them, they hoped that the rank penalty would discourage people from using them.
 
So you either ignore the Rank and use the Cyber Elves... or ignore the Cyber Elves and focus on the Rank. Either way, you're going to end up ignoring one of the game's core mechanics. Granted, I have heard that Inti Creates did improve on that for the sequels.
 
So you either ignore the Rank and use the Cyber Elves... or ignore the Cyber Elves and focus on the Rank. Either way, you're going to end up ignoring one of the game's core mechanics. Granted, I have heard that Inti Creates did improve on that for the sequels.

Yes, they improved on this in Mega Man Zero 3 by introducing Satellite Elves that can be used without affecting the rank.
 
Yes, they improved on this in Mega Man Zero 3 by introducing Satellite Elves that can be used without affecting the rank.
Yes that's right, but even with that, Megaman Zero 3 is arguably just as hard or harder that Megaman Zero 1, especially if you're going for an S rank.
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I will keep that Legends 2 patch in mind.

Isn't the Zero series the most ball-bustingly hard one, or is that just the first game?
Yeah they're tough, but mastering the levels and bosses was very rewarding. Played on original hardware back in the day, and getting S ranks without the use of cyber elves was quite the challenge. Perhaps just beat the game normally the first time around and, if you liked it enough to replay it, focus on rank. I don't recommend trying to S rank on first run, it'll perhaps ruin the fun. Great games, don't let the difficulty put you off!
 
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Honesly megaman zero collection is pretty much the only one I feel like improved the experience of the original across the board. I think the checkpoint system is pretty nice, and the casual mode isn't a terrible way for a newcomer to try it out. I'd hope it would generate interest in normal difficulty run later, but I know not everyone is up to that challenge.
 
The ranking system in MMZ is somewhat forgiving. You only need to get A rank to unlock moves and the game will hand it to you if you complete the level fast and getting hit 3 or 4 times at max, maybe more.

The problem starts when you are going for S rank because you have to play pretty much perfectly, maybe getting hit once or twice, but since the game ranks you on an average score between missions, once you drop from S rank, you aren't going back unless you score 100 points at the end of every mission.
 

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