Mega Man Megathread

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Megaman X6 is like a Hideo Kojima game, you have to be a 250IQ genius to be able to appreciate. ::smirk1
 
Megaman X6 is like a Hideo Kojima game, you have to be a 250IQ genius to be able to appreciate. ::smirk1
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HU HA HO is life.
HU HA HO is love.
HU HA HO is my duty..
As well as my pleasure.

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HU HA HO!
 

Ian does not know how to write, period. Rant by me​

Ian is not really a good writer. It is incredible how maintained his job this long. He has a very tomato pasty writing style. Where he drills and squashes any nuance and personality from a character down to their core essentials until they’re nothing but paste.

It should be clear from how vague I am this is not exclusive to Mega Man, this is an issue across both blue mascots it’s just that our good buddy Rock got caught in the crossfire with over 50 issues of mildly entertaining, overexplained writing.

Yes, 55. Didn’t even last two years lmao. Which is a stark contrast to sonic having the longest running comic… ever? I have to check what the Guinness world record said.
"longest-running comic series based on a video game" in U.S. history.
Cool.
Yeah Megaman Archie is
Not that.
Basically.

I wanna stress out 55 isn’t a small number. For Ian it isn’t. Because…

Dependency on lore-freaks​


This kinda style isn’t inherently bad, but doesn’t quite fit for something straightforward like Megaman that relies more heavily on simplicity and charm rather than complexity or depth. The characters, by nature, can be nuanced. All characters inevitably have nuance, but taking Megaman, and trying to write like it’s Lord of the Rings simply does not compute.

Lore lunatics are also always the wrong people to appease. Mega man lore is fun because it’s tucked in manuals, guides, interviews. It is not a request to turn the franchise into a novel. Mega Man 9 and 10 stories got deservingly mocked for trying to pass off as super serious.

Reliance on foreshadowing​

Simply put, this style is what canablized the comic. Ian was not a very good boy, he misbehaved and tried to introduce a 1,000,000,000,000 foreshadowing elements in his silly 50 issue run that barely covered the events of the first two games. Because why focus on giving depth to Airman or Gutsman when you could also shoehorn in stuff about Plant Man and Concrete Man years before they can be introduced?

Ian didn’t just bite off more than he can chew, I also think this is Ian having some false perception of deep writing. It’s like he’s applying basic writing principles but only in the most superficial sense.

55 issues, huh?​

But maybe I’m not crazy. Maybe Archie agrees with me. Archie stuff do better than people realize. Both Archie (the fictional dude, not the company) and Sonic are two the largest names in the comic book industry outside of DC, Marvel, Image or Dark Horse.

Rubbing shoulders with them should be fireway to fame, yeah? But maybe people actually saw through the cracks and didn’t find Ian all that interesting of a writer.

Why even bother​

Now for the million dollar question, why would Ian do all this? Trying to show care? The characters aren’t his children. If he ONLY focused on the MM1 and MM2 casts during their respective events then he’d have more time to flesh them out. Unfortunately the entire characterization is just one giant tomato paste. Ian is not a good writer. He can write good stuff but he’s mostly just a lore monster and that’s it.
 
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Ian does not know how to write, period. Rant by me​

Ian is not really a good writer. It is incredible how maintained his job this long. He has a very tomato pasty writing style. Where drill and squashes and nuance and personality from a character down to their core essentials until they’re nothing but paste.

It should be clear from how vague I am this is not exclusive to Mega Man, this is an issue across both blue mascots it’s just that our good body Rock got caught in the crossfire with over 50 issues of mildly entertaining, overexplained writing.

Yes, 55. Didn’t even last two years lmao. Which is a stark contrast to sonic having the longest running comic… ever? I have to check what the Guinness world record said.

Cool.
Yeah Megaman Archie is
Not that.
Basically.

I wanna stress out 55 isn’t a small number. For Ian it isn’t. Because…

Dependency on lore-freaks​


This kinda style isn’t inherently bad, but doesn’t quite fit for something straightforward like Megaman that relies more heavily on simplicity and charm rather than complexity or depth. The characters, by nature, can be nuanced. All characters inevitably have nuance, but taking Megaman, and trying to write like it’s Lord of the Rings simply does not compute.

Lore lunatics are also always the wrong people to appease. Mega man lore is fun because it’s tucked in manuals, guides, interviews. It is not a request to turn the franchise into a novel. Mega Man 9 and 10 stories got deservingly mocked for trying to pass off as super serious.

Reliance on foreshadowing​

Simply put, this style is what canablized the comic. Ian was not a very good boy, he misbehaved and tried to introduce a 1,000,000,000,000 foreshadowing elements in his silly 50 issue run that barely covered the events of the first two games. Because why focus on giving depth to Airman or Gutsman when you could also shoehorn in stuff about Plant Man and Concrete Man years before they can be introduced?

Ian didn’t just bite off more than he can chew, I also think this is Ian having some false perception of deep writing. It’s like he’s applying basic writing principles but only in the most superficial sense.

55 issues, huh?​

But maybe I’m not crazy. Maybe Archie agrees with me. Archie stuff do better than people realize. Both Archie (the fictional dude, not the company) and Sonic are two the largest names in the comic book industry outside of DC, Marvel, Image or Dark Horse.

Rubbing shoulders with them should be fireway to fame, yeah? But maybe people actually saw through the cracks and didn’t find Ian all that interesting of a writer.

Why even bother​

Now for the million dollar question, why would Ian do all this? Trying to show care? The characters aren’t his children. If he ONLY focused on the MM1 and MM2 casts during their respective events then he’d have more time to flesh them out. Unfortunately the entire characterization is just one giant tomato paste. Ian is not a good writer. He can write good stuff but he’s mostly just a lore monster and that’s it.
Y'know, I never actually sat down and read Archie Mega Man (although that's something I'm planning to fix), but your complaints are something I saw among other detractors. From the little that I did saw of the comic, it's way too obsessed with being angsty and dramatic, a problem it shares with Mega Man Megamix/Gigamix.
 
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And I didn't even started talking about Megaman X6 being one of my favorite games of all time...

With the patches you can put on it to tweak it and fix up the translation, I thing it's actually a really good game. maybe not the best Megaman X game or anything, but a game that's absolutely worth playing. Honestly I really love Gate as a villian, and it has one of my favorite sigma concepts.

I am honestly sad that X7 used just a normal sigma, it would have been really cool for his last 3 appearances just be him slowly deteriorating from resurrecting so many times. it was a pretty sick idea.
 
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With the patches you can put on it to tweak it and fix up the translation, I thing it's actually a really good game. maybe not the best Megaman X game or anything, but a game that's absolutely worth playing. Honestly I really love Gate as a villian, and it has one of my favorite sigma concepts.

I am honestly sad that X7 used just a normal sigma, it would have been really cool for his last 3 appearances just be him slowly deteriorating from resurrecting so many times. it was a pretty sick idea.
Lol I thought I'd be all alone here. Yeah X6 has some really cool characters, I like it's story even though it starts with a lazy excuse to bring Zero back. Also they gave Alia a bit more screen time which is great, I think she's underappreciated in the series (I recognize that her first impressions in X5 as the annoying tutorial girl didn't help her case).
I'll say though I played it since child/teenagehood without romhacks and the only thing that bothered me at the time was that the final stages are impossible to beat as armorless X. Everything else is workable.
 
Yeah it’s really cool too. I prefer its thrusters over the Super one but I like the Super one more as a whole, and I think the Mazinger-ass Rocket Punch thing is neat :)
Oh for sure!
It blew the shit out of my child mind in the '90s.

I just really like the control of the Jet Adaptor. Nothing to say about weapons, I don't think that one was even packing, but the Power Armor definitely has nothing on the rocket fist from the Super Adaptor.

It really did get Bass'd too; he jacked it from the lab and I assume Light had to create another all-new one from scratch.. Unless..

-Fan theory ahead-

Unless the one Bass stole was originally going to function that way for Megaman, and poor Rock only got stuck with a prototype version of the same armor. Which makes sense to me, in retrospect. 😄
 
Oh for sure!
It blew the shit out of my child mind in the '90s.

I just really like the control of the Jet Adaptor. Nothing to say about weapons, I don't think that one was even packing, but the Power Armor definitely has nothing on the rocket fist from the Super Adaptor.

It really did get Bass'd too; he jacked it from the lab and I assume Light had to create another all-new one from scratch.. Unless..

-Fan theory ahead-

Unless the one Bass stole was originally going to function that way for Megaman, and poor Rock only got stuck with a prototype version of the same armor. Which makes sense to me, in retrospect. 😄
Kinda funny to think one of Bass's most iconic ability was stolen from Light
but it is in fact, quite badass

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Kinda funny to think one of Bass's most iconic ability was stolen from Light
but it is in fact, quite badass

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Bass is canonically based off Mega Man's blueprints, making him Dr. Light's creation by proxy.

Also, shit take, but I don't like Super Bass transformation that much. I think it makes Bass look weaker.
 
For me it was the rapid-fire berserk speed of the Forte Buster shooting in Rockman & Forte.

It has a way of being weak, but making you feel  so powerful. 😻
It's only weak against the bosses. It murders everything without I-frames.
 
Since we're talking about Bass, is Axl supposed to be his "equivalent" in the X series? I mean...
Mega = X
Proto = Zero
Bass = ?
Well, Axl shoots in 8 directions like Bass and their colors are more or less similar (gray, purple, yellow) but their personalities are very different so I have a hard time seeing Axl as a Bass' counterpart.
 
Also, shit take, but I don't like Super Bass transformation that much. I think it makes Bass look weaker.
I think I agree honestly. The color scheme isn’t at all as striking as his default look and the wings on his helmet and back look gaudy.
 

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