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I do like Panty & Stocking, it being so different, and making fun of western media was what appealed to me, besides that, i liked Gurren Lagann and Medaka Box, i don't really care about the other things Gainax did.
 
I don't watch much Anime, but I've noticed that more and more of them are adaptations of Light Novels instead of original concepts and I think that's much to its detriment. It's safe (adapting something that's popular) but it's also very bland since they all chance the same trends instead of making stories that make proper use of the visual medium. It's like the circle of mediocrity.
It actually started off pretty well. Welcome to the NHK was actually a really good novel that was at risk of disappearing into obscurity if it ① hadn't become the catalyst for the surge in light novel popularity and ② hadn't been adapted into a manga and anime. That goes double for the English edition, which is now out of print and really hard to find. And the anime was in some ways an improvement over the novel, making Yamazaki into a more likable character, extending the story with more characters and events well, and developing the characters' a bit more. (I will admit that I'm on the fence as to which had the better ending, as the novel does bittersweet extremely well while the anime does very well at creating a hopeful ending.)

But it has gotten a bit ridiculous more recently. Way too many anime are getting into that inane title gore trend. Everything is called something like "My ability to fight the dark lord and save the world from the coming choco-pocalypse is no match for my mom's ability to be so sexy and skilled at cooking curry tonkatsu that the dark lord wants to be my father and buy me a Nintendo Switch for my birthday."
 
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Turn A Gundam is by far the best Gundam show in my opinion, I understand people who think Zeta is better but I love Turn A.
 
Attack on Titan sucks.

The characters are soulless robots with only the goal of pushing the plot in the direction needed for the story to continue, and having very little depth outside of that. The half-baked character relationships are a fatal flaw with AoT's character writing. There's never enough effort and time put into establishing the relationships between characters and why they'd actually care about each other. When you watch the scene where Hannes dies, you think "that's the drunk guy Eren knew as a kid and interacted with a couple times, so it's emotional and impactful for Eren to see him die", not "Damn, we will never get to see these two interact again on screen" which would make you feel the same loss the protagonist feels.

Most character arcs are just the character's flaw being established, and then one or two scenes showing them overcoming that flaw and becoming a different person. It's very cheap. The way character arcs are written never changes from season 1 to season 4, and most characters only have one arc at best.

Characters like Levi or Mikasa are bland, one note, and would be forgettable if not for their plot armor and fight scenes. Levi is just a generic shonen badass and one of the characters that doesn't even change from start to finish, not even undergoing the show's usual rushed character arc. Mikasa has the complexity of milk toast and the personality of water. So many opportunities for her to develop and grow, yet she remained stagnant and one-dimensional.

Most of the pre-timeskip worldbuilding is retconned via plot twists and doesn't matter after the timeskip. It's almost a different story entirely. The Survey Corps feels like it's set dressing and mostly an afterthought.

The crux of the narrative post-timeskip is focused on the morality of the Rumbling, yet there's not a single attempt to help the viewer sympathize with the outside world. There's no real in-universe reason for the viewer to side with the Marleyians. The outside world is so cartoonishly evil and shallow that the Rumbling is the only logical option, but then the story wants you to feel bad when a bunch of nameless NPCs are stomped on at the end.

The plot is an edgelord fest that doesn't hold up under scrutiny, which is why the fanbase hated the ending. Once they had confirmation that there would be no more plot twists to give the narrative more depth than a puddle, they hated it. The plot doesn't make sense because it's so focused on "recontextualizing everything" with every subsequent plot twist, that it's lost all identity. The entire show the viewer is made to believe that this is a post apocalyptic world with giant cannibal monsters, and by season 4 we transition to a WW2 allegory with terrible political writing and themes that are executed with zero tact or nuance.

It doesn't matter if it was foreshadowed, you don't go from giant zombie slasher to wannabe-game of thrones in the span of 60 episodes. The author tried writing two entirely different stories using the exact same characters and world, which is why the series has no identity outside of "plot twist after plot twist" and "edgy gore." It's also just a blatant ripoff of Eternal Champions, where the protagonist Erekose is given the "god powers" of his world and is part of the race Eldren, which were exiled and excommunicated from the rest of the world because of terrible things that they did in the past. And now in the present day, the world hates the Eldren and wants them gone, and Erekose has to find a way to protect his race from extinction using his "god powers."
 
I do like Panty & Stocking, it being so different, and making fun of western media was what appealed to me, besides that, i liked Gurren Lagann and Medaka Box, i don't really care about the other things Gainax did.
I think most of these fall into the "wacky and random for the sake of it" type anime that really isn't my thing, principally since a big chunk of then seem to rely mostly on shock value instead of being actually funny or interesting imo. That being said I did like the Cutie Honey live action...........
 
Whoever decided that the girls' bodies in MHA had to be bimboified for the anime adaptation must be punished by crushing.

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I'm so happy it didn't happen to Dungeon Meshi.
 
Attack on Titan sucks.

The characters are soulless robots with only the goal of pushing the plot in the direction needed for the story to continue, and having very little depth outside of that. The half-baked character relationships are a fatal flaw with AoT's character writing. There's never enough effort and time put into establishing the relationships between characters and why they'd actually care about each other. When you watch the scene where Hannes dies, you think "that's the drunk guy Eren knew as a kid and interacted with a couple times, so it's emotional and impactful for Eren to see him die", not "Damn, we will never get to see these two interact again on screen" which would make you feel the same loss the protagonist feels.

Most character arcs are just the character's flaw being established, and then one or two scenes showing them overcoming that flaw and becoming a different person. It's very cheap. The way character arcs are written never changes from season 1 to season 4, and most characters only have one arc at best.

Characters like Levi or Mikasa are bland, one note, and would be forgettable if not for their plot armor and fight scenes. Levi is just a generic shonen badass and one of the characters that doesn't even change from start to finish, not even undergoing the show's usual rushed character arc. Mikasa has the complexity of milk toast and the personality of water. So many opportunities for her to develop and grow, yet she remained stagnant and one-dimensional.

Most of the pre-timeskip worldbuilding is retconned via plot twists and doesn't matter after the timeskip. It's almost a different story entirely. The Survey Corps feels like it's set dressing and mostly an afterthought.

The crux of the narrative post-timeskip is focused on the morality of the Rumbling, yet there's not a single attempt to help the viewer sympathize with the outside world. There's no real in-universe reason for the viewer to side with the Marleyians. The outside world is so cartoonishly evil and shallow that the Rumbling is the only logical option, but then the story wants you to feel bad when a bunch of nameless NPCs are stomped on at the end.

The plot is an edgelord fest that doesn't hold up under scrutiny, which is why the fanbase hated the ending. Once they had confirmation that there would be no more plot twists to give the narrative more depth than a puddle, they hated it. The plot doesn't make sense because it's so focused on "recontextualizing everything" with every subsequent plot twist, that it's lost all identity. The entire show the viewer is made to believe that this is a post apocalyptic world with giant cannibal monsters, and by season 4 we transition to a WW2 allegory with terrible political writing and themes that are executed with zero tact or nuance.

It doesn't matter if it was foreshadowed, you don't go from giant zombie slasher to wannabe-game of thrones in the span of 60 episodes. The author tried writing two entirely different stories using the exact same characters and world, which is why the series has no identity outside of "plot twist after plot twist" and "edgy gore." It's also just a blatant ripoff of Eternal Champions, where the protagonist Erekose is given the "god powers" of his world and is part of the race Eldren, which were exiled and excommunicated from the rest of the world because of terrible things that they did in the past. And now in the present day, the world hates the Eldren and wants them gone, and Erekose has to find a way to protect his race from extinction using his "god powers."
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Isayama-sama I kneel
 
After using Konata as an avatar in a few occasions I decided to finally watch the first episode of the anime.

I didn't like it. Nothing fucking happens on it.
 
Attack on Titan sucks.

The characters are soulless robots with only the goal of pushing the plot in the direction needed for the story to continue, and having very little depth outside of that. The half-baked character relationships are a fatal flaw with AoT's character writing. There's never enough effort and time put into establishing the relationships between characters and why they'd actually care about each other. When you watch the scene where Hannes dies, you think "that's the drunk guy Eren knew as a kid and interacted with a couple times, so it's emotional and impactful for Eren to see him die", not "Damn, we will never get to see these two interact again on screen" which would make you feel the same loss the protagonist feels.

Most character arcs are just the character's flaw being established, and then one or two scenes showing them overcoming that flaw and becoming a different person. It's very cheap. The way character arcs are written never changes from season 1 to season 4, and most characters only have one arc at best.

Characters like Levi or Mikasa are bland, one note, and would be forgettable if not for their plot armor and fight scenes. Levi is just a generic shonen badass and one of the characters that doesn't even change from start to finish, not even undergoing the show's usual rushed character arc. Mikasa has the complexity of milk toast and the personality of water. So many opportunities for her to develop and grow, yet she remained stagnant and one-dimensional.

Most of the pre-timeskip worldbuilding is retconned via plot twists and doesn't matter after the timeskip. It's almost a different story entirely. The Survey Corps feels like it's set dressing and mostly an afterthought.

The crux of the narrative post-timeskip is focused on the morality of the Rumbling, yet there's not a single attempt to help the viewer sympathize with the outside world. There's no real in-universe reason for the viewer to side with the Marleyians. The outside world is so cartoonishly evil and shallow that the Rumbling is the only logical option, but then the story wants you to feel bad when a bunch of nameless NPCs are stomped on at the end.

The plot is an edgelord fest that doesn't hold up under scrutiny, which is why the fanbase hated the ending. Once they had confirmation that there would be no more plot twists to give the narrative more depth than a puddle, they hated it. The plot doesn't make sense because it's so focused on "recontextualizing everything" with every subsequent plot twist, that it's lost all identity. The entire show the viewer is made to believe that this is a post apocalyptic world with giant cannibal monsters, and by season 4 we transition to a WW2 allegory with terrible political writing and themes that are executed with zero tact or nuance.

It doesn't matter if it was foreshadowed, you don't go from giant zombie slasher to wannabe-game of thrones in the span of 60 episodes. The author tried writing two entirely different stories using the exact same characters and world, which is why the series has no identity outside of "plot twist after plot twist" and "edgy gore." It's also just a blatant ripoff of Eternal Champions, where the protagonist Erekose is given the "god powers" of his world and is part of the race Eldren, which were exiled and excommunicated from the rest of the world because of terrible things that they did in the past. And now in the present day, the world hates the Eldren and wants them gone, and Erekose has to find a way to protect his race from extinction using his "god powers."
I only watched the first two seasons which I really liked, then read a bit further than that, but I remember having an inkling to what you're describing here (apart from the actual plot points of course which I semi-kept up on) so it kind of feels nice that I dropped it somewhat early.
Introduced me to Cinema Staff though, which I'm grateful for.
 
Elfen Lied is one of the dumbest things I've ever read in sequential art form. And I can't say for sure if it's better or worse than Frank Miller's All Star Batman & Robin, the Boy Wonder.
 
Elfen Lied is one of the dumbest things I've ever read in sequential art form. And I can't say for sure if it's better or worse than Frank Miller's All Star Batman & Robin, the Boy Wonder.
That comparison was really effective putting into perspective how much you hate it
 
I know, I hate it too — it always seemed like a fat lot of pseudo-intellectual post-modern deconstructive insufferably-pretentious garbage made by an egotistical idiot to me. Small wonder it was an inspiration on Undertale. ::unhappy
I Like Undertale and Evangelion but okay I guess.
 
That comparison was really effective putting into perspective how much you hate it
It's really the first thing that comes to mind when I think if I've ever read anything else like it. Like, you can't tell if they were really trying to make it that dark and edgy because they thought it would look cool to the audience if everything was more dark & edgy than you could reasonably believe it could be, or if they just said "f*** it, let's just write one big p*** take of ultra-omega därk n̈' ëdgy on the boss' dime and see what happens."
 
*Deep breath, stares at audience, smirks*

I am going to burn this masterpiece so bad its ashes will scream for water

Everybody mentions Anime like Your Lie in April between the "Tragicomedy" subgenre of Slice of Life Manga, but for me is an absolute mess where the "tragedy" relies in characters being total arses to a character that already comes from a broken life, i cant stand Kaori even with the big twist for this reason

Your life in April is about a kid with a great talent for piano, however said talents comes from an abusive mother that practically enslaved him into having the talent, he becomes retracted until a girl push him into follwing his dream back, Sweet right? Said pushin involves practical Bullying and gaslighting him

Let's recap, Kousei is our protagonist, a kid with a knack for piano, however as said before said piano talent come from a mother that abused him into getting the career, however in the most mind manipulating play it turns out she abused Kousei because "He needed something to grip into since she was dying" so basically a Edcation Mama who rather than something coherent to leave her kid with something to hang on alone she gave him trauma and hatred to a talent... hwat, also mark the words "Pushing him into being the best with abuse" it will come down later

In the mother of all Manic Pixie Dream Girl our second portag a girl called Kaori comes to him after Kousei's mom croaks, to heal him into bringing himself of his shell back... ¿Sounds romantic right? Remember i mentioned mental Bullying, and also the minimal slightly almost inperceptible factor that SHE IS ESCENTIALLY DRAGGING A TRAUMATIZED BOY BACK INTO HIS TRAUMA, in a thread about tropes that most hate i heard about Idiot Plot and lack of comunication, i can tell, if Kousei bothered to say "Actually i don't care about the piano due to abuse from my mom" then... actually Kaori would still be a controlling B(car beep) that won't care, to make it worse the story got a twist, and the twist makes Kaori actually WORSE

At this point is a "Rosebud is a Sled" twist, but it came as shocking that Kaori is dying of a terminal disease, and she knows she is dying cool idea for a Cerebus Syndrome (AKA when a funny show gets serious) but they make Kaori's action even less symphatetic, she know she is dying, thus she... and here is where the marked words come into play... ONCE AGAIN REPEATS THE MISTAKES OF KOUSEI'S MOM BY NOT BEING HONEST ABOUT HER CONDITION INSTEAND BEING A DICK TO I I WANT TO RECALL A TRAUMATIZED KID, oh, and Kaori wants Kousei to come from his shell due to seeing him play the piano as a kid, info hat once again...
SHE
NEVER
TELLS HIM

The story ends with Kousei once again alone after losing two female roles in his life... tragic yes... and also the reason why i consider this anime a waste of my time!!! the story basically amounts to Kousei having to deal with a childhood of abuse and after said abuse is done having to be forced back into the trauma it generated over a selfish girl's lack of communication skills *Deep Breath and a long scream at his pillow*

Basically it amounts to a "Tragedy" that relies on nobody having talking skills or emphaty, if you want good "Tragicomedy" anime, go read/watch Anohana, the conflict is far more natural and when the characters act like if they left their brains or hearts where they misplace their wallets, the characters remain mostly rounded and symphatetic




The Op of Your Lie on April is still fire tho
 
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Everybody mentions Anime like Your Lie in April between the "Tragicomedy" subgenre of Slice of Life Manga
I always preferred Anohana and Clannad, or the peak EF.

I 100% agree with everything you said, and its a reason i couldn't get into Your Lie in April.
 
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