Hot Anime & Manga Takes

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The only Ghibli films I particularly like are Spirited Away, My Neighbours the Yamadas, Porco Rosso, and The Wind Rises. The others can F OFF for all I care. I watched Mononoke and didn't get it at all, I just wanted the chicks to take their clothes off and start lezzing out.
 
Frieza is one of the most generic and boring major villains in all of anime. Almost every one of his named underlings is more interesting than he is, his dub grandma voice makes him impossible to take seriously, and his fight with Goku is horridly drawn out even for DBZ standards. Golden Frieza is even worse, both looking incredibly stupid and being embarrassingly fan servicy without any sense of logic.

Hitsugaya is an overrated character who never did anything to earn his popularity. None of his power or his position as a captain ever feels earned and we're just told he's some 'prodigy', but most of the time he's just screwing up because he's impulsive and immature. He eventually becomes better, but even at his best I'll never understand the love for him.

Arabasta is mid and Drum Island is underrated.

Death Note's first half is overrated and its second half is underrated; neither is great.
 
Full Metal Alchemist is boring.
Evangelion is good but is overrated.
Dragon ball super is trash (I like to think that everything ends in daima).
 

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Moe anime is complete shit and gives the entire medium a bad rap.

Anime in general went really downhill past like 2020, there's still a lot of good stuff like Vinland, Kengan, and a bunch of others, but all the big stuff I see is either basic unoriginal forgettable fantasy isekai type shit or obnoxious gooner trash, and it really saddens me. I saw Watanabe's getting a new show, though, so that's good.

P.S. watch Baccano.
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Cgi has been improving the medium since blue sub six way back when and everyones a little baby about any progress being made.
A show using a lot of CGI can work if it has a particular art style with good shading. If it's in a show with a basic look, the models look unfinished and out of place, and the usual lower framerate on them becomes much more noticeable.

I was put off of Kengan a little at first cuz I didn't know the show used (mostly) CG characters, BUT I grew to really appreciate the visual presentation of the show. JoJo intros are also a very good example, the models look amazing, granted intros usually have higher quality animation than the actual shows, but still.

No doubt it has definitely gotten better, though.
 
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You're so Coombrained its not even funny man, fuck off Gorse you are a lame ass cornball.

There's hot takes and then there's just desperate calls for attention. Calling Princess Mononoke overrated falls in the latter.

My hot take is that Anime was always 95% slop for Otaku coomer brains like Gorse, but at least in the 90's it had beautiful hand drawn artwork. Now its filled with crappy computer assisted animation with no soul and even less quality than what we had in the 90's.
 
There's hot takes and then there's just desperate calls for attention. Calling Princess Mononoke overrated falls in the latter.

My hot take is that Anime was always 95% slop for Otaku coomer brains like Gorse, but at least in the 90's it had beautiful hand drawn artwork. Now its filled with crappy computer assisted animation with no soul and even less quality than what we had in the 90's.
I also thought Princess Mononoke was overrated but probably for different reasons than the other guy. Its been forever since i've seen it though additively, but I remember it just kinda being ok and the ending anticlimactic. Maybe id like it more on a rewatch since again, its been forever.

My hot take besides that is that the best anime tend to be from the 70s and 80s. Not gonna say any decade is perfect, or any bs like that though. And theres still plenty of relatively recent anime thats good or even excellent. You just have to usually dig deep since its usually slop that gets the most attention.
 
True but the point is not about capitalism the point is no matter how much you bitch about it Japan will not change it because when your not the target demographic. All the complaining you do just becomes tire some nagging for the past 5 years people complained how much they hate Isekai. Yeah I heard you the first time after 5 years it becomes just pure excessive nagging and the only thing it does is make people rather sick of listening to the same complaint for the last 5 years.

Put a sock in it we will keep seeing Iskeai becuse that´s what japanese people want to see just how in the 70-80 we keept sing mech anime after mech anime after mech anime.
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Im calm im just sick of the excessive bitching for the past 5 years.
This is a bad thread to hang out in if you don't want to see any bitching lol. Consider your own logic, you can bitch about people bitching but they'll still keep bitching. Especially in a hot takes thread.

I think the 1970s is the best decade for anime.
This isn't a contrarian take just for fun, mind you, it's more that I don't watch a lot of stuff, but from what I've watched I've liked 70s stuff the most.

I think Pokémon Sun/Moon was the best the Pokémon anime ever looked.
70s and 80s are the best decades imo in terms of having the best of the best. Every decade has shit but when I think of the very best anime ever made imo more of them come from the 70s and 80s.
 
And bitching how much you hate same tired trope is not critique and just becuse you know how to write Fancition about how your favorite charter fucks you in the ass does not make you an expert on good writing and now what´s poplar in another culture.
LOL :loldog
 
THERE'S the Gorse I know and love!

Evangelion is one of those shows I've avoided because I know I'd probably be disappointed. Not because of my own expectations, but by how people elevate it. Just like *gasp* Undertale???
Evangelion is perfectly ok. Yeah I cant lie, I liked it well enough, but I gotta admit its obnoxious how much of it I see. Its far from the best thing ever.
 
Oh I forgot one of my big hot takes. Your name is utter garbage. Weathering with you was way better.
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Well one can call it bitching I see it more of reminding people they are not the center of the universe and there bitching for 5 years straight will not change anything so better shut the frack up. And yeah you can do a hot take but maybe come with something that´s not been nagged about for past 5 years.

I would say 70s and 80s has the most trash I ever seen. Animes like Nora or Chargeman ken or Dream hunter Rem just to name a few in the sea.
Expecting people to not rehash the same hot takes is expecting too much of people lol.

"Nora or Chargeman" this is just nitpicking the bottom of the barrel lol. Thats like saying the 2000s sucked for anime because of Mars of destruction and Skelter heaven lol.
 
And bitching how much you hate same tired trope is not critique and just becuse you know how to write Fancition about how your favorite charter fucks you in the ass does not make you an expert on good writing and now what´s poplar in another culture.
…What? The internet isn’t one person, of course you’re gonna run into people having the same opinions on stuff, whether it’s ones you agree with or not. I don’t browse anime forums and this is the first time I’ve said something about it, so it’s new to me for example.
I don’t even know what that fanfiction bit has to do with anything.

Well one can call it bitching I see it more of reminding people they are not the center of the universe and there bitching for 5 years straight will not change anything so better shut the frack up. And yeah you can do a hot take but maybe come with something that´s not been nagged about for past 5 years.
Take your own advice then, instead of jumping into a thread about having opinions with this weird accusatory tone. You need to come to terms with the fact that people have different opinions on stuff.
You can like whatever you want, people being fed up on a trend isn’t a slight against someone else’s interests.
 
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Is it so fucking hard to keep some shit to your self ?? Can we quit being negative creeps for once hmmmmm.
Again, it’s a Hot Takes thread. The entire point is to be able to air our grievances with something. Just don’t enter the thread if you don’t want to see opinions that rattle you.

I’ll just drop it since I don’t want to argue in the thread unnecessarily, but my point still stands.
 
Turn A Gundam is by far the best Gundam show in my opinion, I understand people who think Zeta is better but I love Turn A.
ZZ is better than Z honestly.
But really, it's all downhill from '79: I like most of UC, but it's all inferior to the first one by a mile.
 
Looks the same to me
I don’t like how they all have the same physique in the anime versions, and how it makes them all thinner with bigger tits for no real reason. It’s like they’re the same ”character model” with a different head and skin tone.
They have much more varied proportions in the manga, especially the frog girl.

Horikoshi is an excellent artist and is great at subtle differences in body types, so it just feels unnecessary and a disservice to his style to change them in such a way, even if the changes aren’t gigantic.
 
I don’t like how they all have the same physique in the anime versions, and how it makes them all thinner with bigger tits for no real reason. It’s like they’re the same ”character model” with a different head, skin tone and face.
They have much more varied proportions in the manga, especially the frog girl.

Horikoshi is an excellent artist and is great at subtle differences in body types, so it just feels unnecessary and a disservice to his style to change them in such a way, even if the changes aren’t gigantic.
I don't really see what's strange about the way he draws bodies, it's the faces that always stood out for me: I'm not really a fan but it's what separates him from other Jump mangakas I'd say, it's what makes it art instantly recognizable.
 
My hot take is Shōnen is pure slop with same repetitive idea.
Attack on titan is proof that people love boring stories.
Speaking on the shonen part, thats just kinda objectively wrong? I think people keep using that term without knowing what it actually means. Its not a genre, it just means the manga was published in a young boys magazine. Thats why K-On is Seinen, because of the magazine it was in, not because of its actual content.
 
I don't really see what's strange about the way he draws bodies, it's the faces that always stood out for me: I'm not really a fan but it's what separates him from other Jump mangakas I'd say, it's what makes it art instantly recognizable.
I’d say that it’s what’s ”not strange” that’s the good part. They look like regular people for the mostpart. They’re cute and not unnecessarily ”sexy”, while the anime adaptation gave them identical and much more sexualised bodies (boogeyman word I know, but I think it’s applicable here). I don’t have a problem with sexy characters but I don’t like when they change the style when adapting a manga to have more ”eye candy”, it’s like reverse censorship.

Still, I don’t really care for MHA very much, but I love Horikoshi’s style. My post was more about the idea of ”fixing” an mangaka’s art for TV.

And even then I know he started drawing them differently later on, but I like when they don’t look identical is all.

Sorry for rambling :)
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Speaking on the shonen part, thats just kinda objectively wrong? I think people keep using that term without knowing what it actually means. Its not a genre, it just means the manga was published in a young boys magazine. Thats why K-On is Seinen, because of the magazine it was in, not because of its actual content.
It's common in the west for people to consider shonen (and other demographics) a genre first, and a demographic second, which is wrong but it's usually how streaming sites categorize stuff.
Hajime no Ippo is somehow only sports and not shonen, but Dragon Ball is only shonen and not superheroes. Both are, in fact, both.

I have a friend who once claimed that "if your story has teamwork, it's shonen"::rofl.
 
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It's common in the west for people to consider shonen (and other demographics) a genre first, and a demographic second, which is wrong but it's usually how streaming sites categorize stuff.
Hajime no Ippo is somehow only sports and not shonen, but Dragon Ball is only shonen and not superheroes. Both are, in fact, both.

I have a friend who once claimed that "if your story has teamwork, it's shonen"::rofl.
People just don't want to admit that they're watching stuff that's made for kids and teens
 
People just don't want to admit that they're watching stuff that's made for kids and teens
That seems to be the main thing it all boils down to.
My friend isn't like that though, he's an unabashed lover of YA novels and shonen. He just had a weird grasp on the definition. :)
 
Attack on Titan sucks.

The characters are soulless robots with only the goal of pushing the plot in the direction needed for the story to continue, and having very little depth outside of that. The half-baked character relationships are a fatal flaw with AoT's character writing. There's never enough effort and time put into establishing the relationships between characters and why they'd actually care about each other. When you watch the scene where Hannes dies, you think "that's the drunk guy Eren knew as a kid and interacted with a couple times, so it's emotional and impactful for Eren to see him die", not "Damn, we will never get to see these two interact again on screen" which would make you feel the same loss the protagonist feels.

Most character arcs are just the character's flaw being established, and then one or two scenes showing them overcoming that flaw and becoming a different person. It's very cheap. The way character arcs are written never changes from season 1 to season 4, and most characters only have one arc at best.

Characters like Levi or Mikasa are bland, one note, and would be forgettable if not for their plot armor and fight scenes. Levi is just a generic shonen badass and one of the characters that doesn't even change from start to finish, not even undergoing the show's usual rushed character arc. Mikasa has the complexity of milk toast and the personality of water. So many opportunities for her to develop and grow, yet she remained stagnant and one-dimensional.

Most of the pre-timeskip worldbuilding is retconned via plot twists and doesn't matter after the timeskip. It's almost a different story entirely. The Survey Corps feels like it's set dressing and mostly an afterthought.

The crux of the narrative post-timeskip is focused on the morality of the Rumbling, yet there's not a single attempt to help the viewer sympathize with the outside world. There's no real in-universe reason for the viewer to side with the Marleyians. The outside world is so cartoonishly evil and shallow that the Rumbling is the only logical option, but then the story wants you to feel bad when a bunch of nameless NPCs are stomped on at the end.

The plot is an edgelord fest that doesn't hold up under scrutiny, which is why the fanbase hated the ending. Once they had confirmation that there would be no more plot twists to give the narrative more depth than a puddle, they hated it. The plot doesn't make sense because it's so focused on "recontextualizing everything" with every subsequent plot twist, that it's lost all identity. The entire show the viewer is made to believe that this is a post apocalyptic world with giant cannibal monsters, and by season 4 we transition to a WW2 allegory with terrible political writing and themes that are executed with zero tact or nuance.

It doesn't matter if it was foreshadowed, you don't go from giant zombie slasher to wannabe-game of thrones in the span of 60 episodes. The author tried writing two entirely different stories using the exact same characters and world, which is why the series has no identity outside of "plot twist after plot twist" and "edgy gore." It's also just a blatant ripoff of Eternal Champions, where the protagonist Erekose is given the "god powers" of his world and is part of the race Eldren, which were exiled and excommunicated from the rest of the world because of terrible things that they did in the past. And now in the present day, the world hates the Eldren and wants them gone, and Erekose has to find a way to protect his race from extinction using his "god powers."
It's a friend of mine favorite anime due to the political stuff and the "humanity repeating the same mistakes/cicle of hatred" thing. It's memorable but somewhat boring to me.

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After using Konata as an avatar in a few occasions I decided to finally watch the first episode of the anime.

I didn't like it. Nothing fucking happens on it.
It's surprising how many people pretend to like moeshit but actually hate watching the shows
 
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Never did I say it was a Genre and I know what it is but majority of anime targeting boys are slop, Bleach, Naurto, one piece, Fairy tale same fucking slop with annoying OP main charter that save the world that´s majority what´s popular. Then there is other type of genres in Shōnen but Im talking about what´s most popular Shōnen.

So please don´t think im clueless because that´s fucking insulting. So twink before you speak.

Also it means boys' comics not young boys and it´s an editorial category of Japanese comics.

Im half Japanese born and raised in Japan so please don´t lecture me on the language im fluent in and the culture you barely even understand on a surface level. Do you want me lecture you on your´s countrys lanuage and culture ?
How you know I'm not Japanese myself ::winkfelix
 
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