Hot Anime & Manga Takes

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Also FYI don´t like Iskeai don´t watch it. The reason it´s keep being made it´s not to please you, They are pleasing the Japanese market and they don´t give a fuck what you American or German or Belgian etc, think. You are not the fucking target audience. So you bitching about it is just you bitching the clouds.
I don't understand this at all. Why would you have to come from a perticular country in order to critique a piece of entertainment? It's not as if shallow underdog stories are an ostensibly japanese concept (it's kind of the opposite, actually).
Also, what's this fabled non-mainstream anime you talk about?

This is a hot takes thread, we're supposed to say things that may appear as inflammatory. Why is it that it always seems like you take personal offense to opinions you disagree with?
 
- Didn't much care for Kill la Kill, Little Witch Academia, Kiznaiver or any Trigger thing except for the stuff related to Gridman.

- Anime is not any more worse now beacause of Isekais, Shounens or whatever. There was always trends in each era.
 
People love to bitch how Isekai keeps using the same dumb concept but forgets that
Shōnen and romance anime keeps suing the same tropes over and over and over again yet no one complains.

And no 90s and early 2000 anime is not better than today´s anime. They mostly that changed is how it´s made back then it was more hand drawn but that would result it would take bloody longer to do a 12 episode show than it takes today.

The reason you hate modern anime is your stuck in the past and your taste is the same as it was then. Yeah anime has change but not for the worse it´s just you stuck in the past. You had shit anime in 90s the same as you have shit anime today just like how it is with video games you had you had Super man 64 then and Concord now.

Main stream anime sucks ass but just like pop music it´s made to brainwash you to think is great. And it is proof that majority of people have the same shitty taste hence why it´s mainstream.

Also FYI don´t like Iskeai don´t watch it. The reason it´s keep being made it´s not to please you, They are pleasing the Japanese market and they don´t give a fuck what you American or German or Belgian etc, think. You are not the fucking target audience. So you bitching about it is just you bitching the clouds.
You're not wrong, there's just as much bad old anime as there is bad modern anime, but the way you talk is simply too aggressive. Calm down dude.
 
Anime is not any more worse now beacause of Isekais, Shounens or whatever. There was always trends in each era.
Definitely. But it's generally easier to dislike a current trend than an old one simply because it's current. I wasn't alive in Japan during the late 70s/early 80s so I don't need to see a trillion mecha shows plastered everywhere in the same way. For me, it's not the setting/isekai ruleset in and of itself that makes it boring (because every subgenre definitely has something good), it's mainly how they're written.
 
I still remember the Harem era, and the Tsundere era.

There is always that one fad that gets overused. Its not really for better or for worse.

Although i dislike isekai, i can point to a few i do like. Same for modern anime, i don't think is as good as it was during the golden age, but i still watch and enjoy some shows.
 
You're not wrong, there's just as much bad old anime as there is bad modern anime, but the way you talk is simply too aggressive. Calm down dude.
These threads ought to start off with everyone being required to put on this hat:
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Yu Yu Hakusho is the best shounen... up until the Dark Tournament arc. Everything before that was great, though!

Saban's dubs for Digimon weren't the worst thing in the world... mostly. This is doubly true for the kinds of westernization of the 90s and 00s of anime. I feel like Digimon was one of the better ones of that era for Adventure, 02 and Tamers... y'know, from what little experience I have with other anime from that era. >_>

Speaking of Saban! Though only tangentially related, I'm at least glad for Power Rangers because without it, I'd have never seen Kyoryu Sentai Zyuranger or Jetman. They aged like a fine wine. Power Rangers aged like milk.
 
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You're not wrong, there's just as much bad old anime as there is bad modern anime, but the way you talk is simply too aggressive. Calm down dude.
I'm completely fine with the tone of @Generic-name 's post, though I disagree with the last point saying it's pointless to complain about something because capitalism doesn't care. I've never seen this argument add anything fruitful to any discussion. If we feel like expressing our feelings towards a work of art, we should do it regardless of circumstances.
 
Definitely. But it's generally easier to dislike a current trend than an old one simply because it's current. I wasn't alive in Japan during the late 70s/early 80s so I don't need to see a trillion mecha shows plastered everywhere in the same way. For me, it's not the setting/isekai ruleset in and of itself that makes it boring (because every subgenre definitely has something good), it's mainly how they're written.
Fair. There are probably modern Isekai that are well written and does something good with the ideas but are buried between the sea of mediocre slop that paint this kind of story in a bad light.
Yu Yu Hakusho is the best shounen.. up until the Dark Tournament arc.
- Another hot take: The Three Kings arc is probably my favorite
 
I don't watch much Anime, but I've noticed that more and more of them are adaptations of Light Novels instead of original concepts and I think that's much to its detriment. It's safe (adapting something that's popular) but it's also very bland since they all chance the same trends instead of making stories that make proper use of the visual medium. It's like the circle of mediocrity.
 
My gripe with anime is how many of them relies on a "And then" narrative without real substance to it. That being said, there are a few anime that I like and almost all of them are modern.
 
but I've noticed that more and more of them are adaptations of Light Novels instead
Adaptations of VNs, games or Mangas used to be more common.

Anime is mostly used as a marketing ploy for the original material, and since now LNs are what make dough, the publishers are more inclined to turn them into anime.
 
There are probably modern Isekai that are well written and does something good with the ideas but are buried between the sea of mediocre slop
Probably. It likely doesn't help when it's generally more difficult to find interesting stuff as a westerner unless you're extremely in-the-know, so we just see stuff like Shield Hero on the front page of a streaming service and think that's all there is. I'm guilty of that too, but I still have issues not pertaining to the setting itself.

more and more of them are adaptations of Light Novels instead of original concepts
This being one of the main ones, for me.

Anime is mostly used as a marketing ploy for the original material
That's also true.
It's a gigantic medium, so it can be tough to differentiate on what's more of a tie-in, and what's more of a wholly original work (both of which can be good or bad, obviously).

I prefer reading mangas in general over watching an anime adaptation (since I'm an animation enthusiast, not necessarily a consumer of cartoons in that sense), but that's because I like reading all kinds of comics.
 
My gripe with anime is how many of them relies on a "And then" narrative without real substance to it. That being said, there are a few anime that I like and almost all of them are modern.
It's a problem I believe is related to what I brought up: over-reliance on Light Novels. Those stories tend to get milked to death, so of course they end up meandering and direction-less.
 
It's a problem I believe is related to what I brought up: over-reliance on Light Novels. Those stories tend to get milked to death, so of course they end up meandering and direction-less.
I agree with you, but still I wish the Light Novel format was more popular in the west (meaning not only as imported japanese works). It feels like a neat way to work. Like novellas mixed occasional artwork.

I suppose they are similar to pulp novels in a way, but that's a dead format unfortunately :(
 
Personal thing, before I judge an anime, I look at the staff and casts first, if I don't like what I see I won't even bother to take a look at the synopsis.
 
I know, I hate it too — it always seemed like a fat lot of pseudo-intellectual post-modern deconstructive insufferably-pretentious garbage made by an egotistical idiot to me. Small wonder it was an inspiration on Undertale. ::unhappy
THERE'S the Gorse I know and love!

Evangelion is one of those shows I've avoided because I know I'd probably be disappointed. Not because of my own expectations, but by how people elevate it. Just like *gasp* Undertale???
 
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