Hideo's creativity

[DEH]

I find it strange and creepy. He probably wants to immortalize himself like this? That's scary !

 

[Cardboardtubeknight Cardboardtubeknight]

probably several .mp4s of 80s movies to lift imagery from

I wonder what movies. I hope it's Mac and Me for the next strand type

 

[MrPanda61]

I dunno if it's a hot take but this is legit one of the best Metal Gear games in the franchise and I'll die on that hill.

It's also brutally fun. A simple western/samurai Hong Kong movie turned into a game. And I love it.

So basically you want a Dino Crisis game that would in theory play similarly MGS3 or MGS5.

MGS3 would be better for it if you want it to remain closer the original Survival horror theme, You still have the option to "go loud," but do to limited recourses you wouldn't be able to do it consistently. You have the ability to fight back on occasion, but you would have to consider your resources as well as your positioning, since smaller agile dinosaurs might be able to flank you if you aren't careful, in addition if you aren't careful you could draw more dinos to your location.

If you made it similar to MGS5's gameplay, it may be better to potentially add some Monster Hunter elements, to possibly add more of a challenge. While this may make it more "fun" to a larger audience, it will likely come at the cost of the survival horror elements, or at best will start as a scary game, but once you get past certain point you would probably make a joke out of most encounters. This might be cathartic to some, while others would prefer that it maintain it's horror elements throughout the game.

Also if it was a game similar to MGS5 I would hope that it would be able to be properly completed, unlike MGS5.


As for MGS4, is better as a finale then as an actual game. Although if you look into how Kojima wanted to end it, which is if I remember correctly, Otacon and Snake are either arrested as criminals or shot by the police.

I am sorry for my tendency to write "essays" I am terrible at being concise.

Well, I just wanted Snake to punch raptors, but if you want to go deeper...
I'm sure that something like RE2 remake could be also done for Dino Crisis if you want something closer to a horror game. By adding Snake you can ad all the MGS mythos. Yes, the raptors were brought back by the LaLiLuLo to fight the Patriots, but SURPRISE Major Zero is still alive or some absurd thing like that.

On the other hand, you can go the Dino Crisis 2 route and mixed with MGS5. Pure nonsense. However, this time The clones of Regina are here to kick some Big Bosses' asses!!!

Man, the more i think about MGS lore the dumber I become

 

[fake-kun]

It's also brutally fun. A simple western/samurai Hong Kong movie turned into a game. And I love it.

I thought people only liked Revengeance because of The Memes™.

 

[Deleted member 420614]

I will never understand the worship people have for Kojima. Calling him god of video game creations.

Yeah sure Policenauts and Snatcher where good story driven games. THe MSG serie is kind of ehh decent and some times good stealth game and death stranding kind of a fever dream or high on drugs kind of game.

But like that´s it 4 types of games and one he focused mostly on. It´s like me worshiping a voice actor having done 1 charter all his life.

 

[WesternYokai]

Kojima passa-te a bufana. Aceitas?

 

[MrPanda61]

I thought people only liked Revengeance because of The Memes™.

what memes?

 

[OPT1MUS]

Well, I just wanted Snake to punch raptors, but if you want to go deeper...
I'm sure that something like RE2 remake could be also done for Dino Crisis if you want something closer to a horror game. By adding Snake you can ad all the MGS mythos. Yes, the raptors were brought back by the LaLiLuLo to fight the Patriots, but SURPRISE Major Zero is still alive or some absurd thing like that.

On the other hand, you can go the Dino Crisis 2 route and mixed with MGS5. Pure nonsense. However, this time The clones of Regina are here to kick some Big Bosses' asses!!!

Sounds crazy, BUT... I guess it would be very fun!

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

I thought people only liked Revengeance because of The Memes™.

As much as I appreciate

there's still an underlying story that is good as well as a nervous gameplay.


Thinking that the only good thing about this games are the memes around it is just a surface-level analysis of the product.

I will never understand the worship people have for Kojima. Calling him god of video game creations.

If I had to tell who's the most influential game maker then I'd go for Shigeru Miyamoto.

 

[5tup1d]

Hideo Kojima is not creative, he combined the ideas others created and that's all about it. What he can do is taking an idea and making it seem like something else.

Snatcher is stolen from Blade Runner. Even its theme music was stolen, shamelessly and obviously altered from a popular song at the time. However what is really bothering is Hideo Kojima's young shameless behavior to add sexual assault elements into his games, just why lol. You can flirt and even touch bodies of women and it's not humorous at all. These games wasn't suppose to be porn games. And then in Death Stranding his fetish evolved to a character licking face of a woman lol.

I feel that the points that you are making/saying are either judging things from the past on modern standards, even though modern social norms, level of technology, as well as what was generally considered normal gaming practices, were completely different when the games that you are talking about came out.

In regards to the problematic elements of his early games, such as the treatment of women, that was just how things were at that time. I don't like it, but lets not pretend that he was the only person in all of Japan to do things like that at the time. It is terrible and unacceptable behavior by modern standards, but it was deemed acceptable by the standards when it was released.

It is the same with the way that people of African decent were depicted in early Japanese media. Horribly racist by modern standards, and arguably of the standards of the rest of the world when it was released, but if you learn why they did it that way, which is because early Japanese comics/anime/media took inspiration from early western comics/cartoons/media where such depictions were the norm. The Japanese didn't realize the racism behind the source material until they started to receive negative feedback from the rest of the world for their depictions.

If I remember correctly, while the Zone of the Enders and Boktai series, while they both have Kojima's name attached to them, are games he produced. His name was added to them so that more people would try them then if the people who actually game were listed.

Also, Neon Genesis Evangelion may only seem "generic" to you because many modern anime and shows took inspiration from it. You seem to mix up when something is the inspiration for something else. I am not really a fan of Evangelion, but if you refuse to acknowledge the cultural impact something had just because you don't like it or you don't think that it holds up to modern standards, how am I supposed to take your opinion seriously?

Are you going to complain that Pong is a boring, simple, and unimaginative game, because it is based on ping pong? Ignoring the cultural impact it had when it first came out, or the advancements in technology that had to take place for it to even work?

Are going to complain that early cave paintings made by primitive man, are copying animals and people so that it is unoriginal and boring?

The original Metal Gear came out at a time where most games were about running around and killing everything on screen. This was the case because it is a lot easier to program then enemy ai that reacts to different things that the player is doing. Complaining that you think it is unoriginal when at a time where conventional wisdom on games was that most wouldn't be interested in a game that wasn't about killing every enemy or sports. In addition to this they dared to try and have a story more complex then "beat bad guy," at a time when due to how little space they had to work with any added dialogue or story would come at the cost of gameplay. and you are saying that it is unoriginal. Not liking the Metal Gear series is one thing, saying that it is unoriginal, because it takes inspiration from something is ridiculous.

All creative media is inspired by the experiences of the people who make it. Those people are inspired by works and media that they like and dislike. Many works that people think are "original" are heavily inspired by much older works that those people have either not seen or heard of. The original Star Wars trilogy is heavily based on other earlier science fiction.

Also Snake is heavily based off of Snake Plissken from the "Escape from New York" and "Escape from LA" movies, which is why he takes the name Plisken in MGS2, as an homage to that inspiration. The creator of the "Escape from" series even gave Kojima his blessing, when the company that owned the rights to the "Escape from" series tried to sue Kojima and Konami.

Now, it is a fact that as time has gone by it has become more and more apparent that Kojima wasn't the only guiding force on the games that he made, and that his role wasn't as big as was originally believed. Information also came out that him being kicked out of Konomi wasn't just because Konami is evil.

I had a few more points, but this is already way too long. I blame my ADHD meds. and my Asperger's Syndrome...

Sorry for the essay...

 

[Deleted member 77791]

I feel that the points that you are making/saying are either judging things from the past on modern standards, even though modern social norms, level of technology, as well as what was generally considered normal gaming practices, were completely different when the games that you are talking about came out.

In regards to the problematic elements of his early games, such as the treatment of women, that was just how things were at that time. I don't like it, but lets not pretend that he was the only person in all of Japan to do things like that at the time. It is terrible and unacceptable behavior by modern standards, but it was deemed acceptable by the standards when it was released.

It is the same with the way that people of African decent were depicted in early Japanese media. Horribly racist by modern standards, and arguably of the standards of the rest of the world when it was released, but if you learn why they did it that way, which is because early Japanese comics/anime/media took inspiration from early western comics/cartoons/media where such depictions were the norm. The Japanese didn't realize the racism behind the source material until they started to receive negative feedback from the rest of the world for their depictions.

If I remember correctly, while the Zone of the Enders and Boktai series, while they both have Kojima's name attached to them, are games he produced. His name was added to them so that more people would try them then if the people who actually game were listed.

Also, Neon Genesis Evangelion may only seem "generic" to you because many modern anime and shows took inspiration from it. You seem to mix up when something is the inspiration for something else. I am not really a fan of Evangelion, but if you refuse to acknowledge the cultural impact something had just because you don't like it or you don't think that it holds up to modern standards, how am I supposed to take your opinion seriously?

Are you going to complain that Pong is a boring, simple, and unimaginative game, because it is based on ping pong? Ignoring the cultural impact it had when it first came out, or the advancements in technology that had to take place for it to even work?

Are going to complain that early cave paintings made by primitive man, are copying animals and people so that it is unoriginal and boring?

The original Metal Gear came out at a time where most games were about running around and killing everything on screen. This was the case because it is a lot easier to program then enemy ai that reacts to different things that the player is doing. Complaining that you think it is unoriginal when at a time where conventional wisdom on games was that most wouldn't be interested in a game that wasn't about killing every enemy or sports. In addition to this they dared to try and have a story more complex then "beat bad guy," at a time when due to how little space they had to work with any added dialogue or story would come at the cost of gameplay. and you are saying that it is unoriginal. Not liking the Metal Gear series is one thing, saying that it is unoriginal, because it takes inspiration from something is ridiculous.

All creative media is inspired by the experiences of the people who make it. Those people are inspired by works and media that they like and dislike. Many works that people think are "original" are heavily inspired by much older works that those people have either not seen or heard of. The original Star Wars trilogy is heavily based on other earlier science fiction.

Also Snake is heavily based off of Snake Plissken from the "Escape from New York" and "Escape from LA" movies, which is why he takes the name Plisken in MGS2, as an homage to that inspiration. The creator of the "Escape from" series even gave Kojima his blessing, when the company that owned the rights to the "Escape from" series tried to sue Kojima and Konami.

Now, it is a fact that as time has gone by it has become more and more apparent that Kojima wasn't the only guiding force on the games that he made, and that his role wasn't as big as was originally believed. Information also came out that him being kicked out of Konomi wasn't just because Konami is evil.

I had a few more points, but this is already way too long. I blame my ADHD meds. and my Asperger's Syndrome...

Sorry for the essay...

I've read your message thrice. I mentally wrestled a lot. While I understand your points, I determined our points disagrees with each other therefore I determined "let's agree to disagree". I mean what to say to a person when I say "to me X is X" but then the person says "your X is my Y"? It seems like a pointless verbal fight of which football club is the best or something lol.

However I will only say this: If we have to justify every opinion we don't like or the act of people sharing their ideas as "complaining" just because it's opposing or seem negative we will only come up with a mindless society. However no one has to shut up just because you want so. World cannot revolve in the way you demand.

Since you are a person who doesn't prefer to "complain" I can only imagine even if someone had cut your legs you wouldn't complain because complaining is a huge sin in your culture (that's what I understand lol). For me you are an alien who came from a different galaxy whom I have no idea what to say but I didn't wanna seem rude so I explained why I seemed to ignore your message lol. Also spoiler alert: I don't have to care about the social rules you believe in so you have no entitlement to force your demands on me. Because of it I have nothing to say to you. You would think it's complaining if I had let you know you are on fire or something. IDK what kind of the way you even think lololol.

 

[5tup1d]

I've read your message thrice. I mentally wrestled a lot. While I understand your points, I determined our points disagrees with each other therefore I determined "let's agree to disagree". I mean what to say to a person when I say "to me X is X" but then the person says "your X is my Y"? It seems like a pointless verbal fight of which football club is the best or something lol.

However I will only say this: If we have to justify every opinion we don't like or the act of people sharing their ideas as "complaining" just because it's opposing or seem negative we will only come up with a mindless society. However no one has to shut up just because you want so. World cannot revolve in the way you demand.

Since you are a person who doesn't prefer to "complain" I can only imagine even if someone had cut your legs you wouldn't complain because complaining is a huge sin in your culture (that's what I understand lol). For me you are an alien who came from a different galaxy whom I have no idea what to say but I didn't wanna seem rude so I explained why I seemed to ignore your message lol. Also spoiler alert: I don't have to care about the social rules you believe in so you have no entitlement to force your demands on me. Because of it I have nothing to say to you. You would think it's complaining if I had let you know you are on fire or something. IDK what kind of the way you even think lololol.

I will try to simplify my language, since you seem to have misunderstood.

I never stated that having an opinion or complaining are unacceptable, or wrong.

Having a different opinion is completely fine, such as saying that you don't like Kojima or the games he worked on. That is an opinion, and no matter what anyone says, or feels you can't argue with that, because that is based on your feelings.

Complaining is fine. For example saying that MGS4 is more of a movie with occasional gameplay. That while the "Twin Snakes" looks better graphically to the original MGS1 it completely ruins the atmosphere Those are complaints based on opinion, and some people will agree while others will disagree.

However stating or implying that something which is well known to have had a tremendous impact on the gaming industry, and claiming that it is unoriginal, and attempting to lecture and talk down to others, without realizing that according to your own logic, nothing is original.

Or that according to the logic you used against someone else in this thread, that something can only be original if you like it.

Metal Gear a game that was completely different from any other game from it's time unoriginal, and complaining about how it is is simple it is when the NES version is only 129 KB, the MSX version on this site, which has been modified is 160 KB.

It was as complex as they could possibly make it due to the technical limitations of the MSX.

You are essentially looking at a landline phone from before 1945 and complaining why didn't they just use smart phone back then instead.

Now you did this with several games, but I think I have gone on long enough.

 

[OPT1MUS]

C'mon guys.
As I said, I like all your opinions (and I partly agree with most of them).
HOWEVER, you know... if someone sees one thing completely black and another one sees that thing completely white, the result between the two will almost never be gray.
Continuing/insisting to explain the respective points of view (maybe trying to convince the other) is useless: the only way is to accept those opinions for what they are, i.e. the subjective perception of each of us.
No need to quarrel.

 

[nobitakun]

Too long thread, I will only say I like Metal Gear Rising maybe because I like PlatinumGames...oh and I also like watermelons :D~

 

[5tup1d]

C'mon guys.
As I said, I like all your opinions (and I partly agree with most of them).
HOWEVER, you know... if someone sees one thing completely black and another one sees that thing completely white, the result between the two will almost never be gray.
Continuing/insisting to explain the respective points of view (maybe trying to convince the other) is useless: the only way is to accept those opinions for what they are, i.e. the subjective perception of each of us.
No need to quarrel.

I am sorry, I took it way to far, I will try to not crash out like that.

I will also try to make sure that I don't post my autobiography each time I post something.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

I still think that a game should be good even if you remove its cinematics.

 

[5tup1d]

I still think that a game should be good even if you remove its cinematics.

Absolutely.

As important as some people say that story is to a game, if it is boring or not fun to play then there is zero motivation to play it.

Especially in modern times where you can just watch someone else play it, if you are only interested in the story.

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It's also brutally fun. A simple western/samurai Hong Kong movie turned into a game. And I love it.

Well, I just wanted Snake to punch raptors, but if you want to go deeper...
I'm sure that something like RE2 remake could be also done for Dino Crisis if you want something closer to a horror game. By adding Snake you can ad all the MGS mythos. Yes, the raptors were brought back by the LaLiLuLo to fight the Patriots, but SURPRISE Major Zero is still alive or some absurd thing like that.

On the other hand, you can go the Dino Crisis 2 route and mixed with MGS5. Pure nonsense. However, this time The clones of Regina are here to kick some Big Bosses' asses!!!

Man, the more i think about MGS lore the dumber I become

METAL GEAR REX... LITERALLY!!!

Also would Solid Snake or Big Boss be the MC.

If Big Boss even more silly stuff could be done.

"Snake!!! They brought back The Boss as a RAPTOR!"

"Huh! Boss?"

"Jack."

"Boss"

"Jack! I am torn between my loyalty to my country and my new urge to eat people!"

"BOSS!!!"

(A story where at the end The Boss raptor makes you cry, a story about trying to be true to yourself, and trying to not eat people.)

...

Although, if It were Solid Snake...

Otacon: SNAKE! That is no ordinary rapter!

Mystery raptor: (Takes off sunglasses) "Did you like my sunglasses? BROTHER!"

Snake: "LIQUID!!!"

Liquid Raptor: "Yes bother I live on through this dromaeosaurid dinosaur!"

Snake: "What! Dromaeosaurid dinosaur!"

(Liquid raptor then proceeds to go on a long winded monologue about how it happened. Which is later retconned in a future game.)

 

[OPT1MUS]

METAL GEAR REX... LITERALLY!!!

Also would Solid Snake or Big Boss be the MC.

If Big Boss even more silly stuff could be done.

"Snake!!! They brought back The Boss as a RAPTOR!"

"Huh! Boss?"

"Jack."

"Boss"

"Jack! I am torn between my loyalty to my country and my new urge to eat people!"

"BOSS!!!"

(A story where at the end The Boss raptor makes you cry, a story about trying to be true to yourself, and trying to not eat people.)

...

Although, if It were Solid Snake...

Otacon: SNAKE! That is no ordinary rapter!

Mystery raptor: (Takes off sunglasses) "Did you like my sunglasses? BROTHER!"

Snake: "LIQUID!!!"

Liquid Raptor: "Yes bother I live on through this dromaeosaurid dinosaur!"

Snake: "What! Dromaeosaurid dinosaur!"

(Liquid raptor then proceeds to go on a long winded monologue about how it happened. Which is later retconned in a future game.)

Like I told to someone else: sounds totally crazy... but damn funny!

 

[MrPanda61]

Absolutely.

As important as some people say that story is to a game, if it is boring or not fun to play then there is zero motivation to play it.

Especially in modern times where you can just watch someone else play it, if you are only interested in the story.

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METAL GEAR REX... LITERALLY!!!

Also would Solid Snake or Big Boss be the MC.

If Big Boss even more silly stuff could be done.

"Snake!!! They brought back The Boss as a RAPTOR!"

"Huh! Boss?"

"Jack."

"Boss"

"Jack! I am torn between my loyalty to my country and my new urge to eat people!"

"BOSS!!!"

(A story where at the end The Boss raptor makes you cry, a story about trying to be true to yourself, and trying to not eat people.)

...

Although, if It were Solid Snake...

Otacon: SNAKE! That is no ordinary rapter!

Mystery raptor: (Takes off sunglasses) "Did you like my sunglasses? BROTHER!"

Snake: "LIQUID!!!"

Liquid Raptor: "Yes bother I live on through this dromaeosaurid dinosaur!"

Snake: "What! Dromaeosaurid dinosaur!"

(Liquid raptor then proceeds to go on a long winded monologue about how it happened. Which is later retconned in a future game.)

Yes, this is the type of story I want!
And then we find that Dr. Kirk is the REAL mastermind behind the Shadow Moses incident and that Metal Gear Rex was just a cover for the fourth energy! A super duper secret to use dinosaurs as unstoppable tax collectors.

Of course, things go sour when the raptors start developing interesting philosophical questions such as:

Pure Kojima.

 

[5tup1d]

Yes, this is the type of story I want!
And then we find that Dr. Kirk is the REAL mastermind behind the Shadow Moses incident and that Metal Gear Rex was just a cover for the fourth energy! A super duper secret to use dinosaurs as unstoppable tax collectors.

Of course, things go sour when the raptors start developing interesting philosophical questions such as:
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Pure Kojima.

Although you forgot the part where Ocelot also comes back as a Therizinosaurus, twirling his revolvers, saying "Your pretty good"

And then making us question whose side is he really on, or if the developers even know and they are going to make it vague and answer that question in a later game.

Then Huey can come back and do more monstrous things and blame his actions on other people. then get off Scott free, since we know his ultimate destiny is to get cucked by his own son.

Otacon will try to fall in love again, and lose and then them. It will again cause me emotional pain. Why can't our man just be happy. DAMN YOU KOJIMA!!!

Johnny or one of his ancestors/descendants will appear and shit themselves.

They reveal a new "Liquidous" Snake, whom is either behind it all or is part dinosaur.

(Am I the only one who didn't know when they originally played MGS2 that "Solidus" is an actual state of matter?)

The real driving force behind all of this was Memes/genes/"nanomachines son"/parasites or the most terrifying of all!

THE DINOSAURS THEMSELVES!!!

I am sorry about all that... it wasn't as good as my last one...

 

[dogo]

LA CREATIVIDAD

 

[5tup1d]

Kojima passa-te a bufana. Aceitas?

COM CERTEZA! Pelo menos não vou ficar entediado!

(A menos que o jogo seja 99% cenas, 1/2% simulador de caminhada e 1/2% Kojima maluco)

Desculpem a tradução ruim do Google...

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- - Hideo Kojima has revealed that he entrusted a USB stick with original ideas to his assistant, with the aim of ensuring the creative continuity of Kojima Productions even after his death.
This decision has been driven by the awareness of the limited time left to create new video games - -

What do you think, guys?

I realize that I didn't answer question which is the whole reason this post was started... I just complained at someone, and acted like a dork!

I am not sure, Kojima games as much I love the ones that I have played, which isn't all of them, not everything he makes is gold. Like with George Lucas, he may do his best work when he is reined in to a certain degree.

I mentioned in an earlier post that he wanted MGS4 to end with Snake and Otacon being gunned down by the police.

PT is a scary horror game, but if you have gotten to the end of it it becomes annoying trying to figure out how to finish it. Most people can't figure out how to figure it out without using a guide.

He is still an icon of the industry, but with him it could be anything on that USB...

It could be a ton of movies that he want to make references to, or It could be a list of celebrities that he wants to work with, or interesting concepts that he thinks would be good to use.

It could also be tons of Death Stranding like game that while they may lack main stream appeal there is definitely an audience for. I could be a game similar to MGS3, in terms of impact, I would be surprised if he made an MGS type game any time soon.

It could be a list of interesting projects that he may want to support or produce like Zone of the Enders or Boktai, maybe it is a list of young people whose careers should be carefully watched, or potentially sponsored.

It could be a combination of these things.

... or it could just be a bunch of memes, things he thinks are neat, and/or things that he wants to make out of legos.

(Kojima and team decided the layout of MGS1 using his son's legos.)