Final Fantasy Thread

RanmyakuIchi said:
Hello all. I've been pretty interested in getting more into Final Fantasy after playing through FFVI, but the number of titles is a bit daunting from an outside perspective. Is there a place you would recommend someone who's only finished VI and VII to go from there?
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Do you like lots of party customization, or do you consider that a sort of afterthought?
That’s usually the divider I make between different Final Fantasies. I’d say 6 is falls on the ”less customization” (while still having its fair share) side while 7 falls on the ”more customization” side.

Then there’s also the question of how much you’d prefer it to be fantasy ad how much tech you want in it? Both 6 and 7 have lots of tech but it looks pretty different as you no doubt felt.

For straight up ”good for newcomers” games I’d recommend (apart from 7) 4, 9 and 10, but 9 is also elevated by how much you know the reoccurring themes from the series, but it’s not ”required reading” to enjoy 9.

I think 9 is the best, most pure distilled form of Final Fantasy, but my personal favorites are 5, 7 and 10.
 
Tonberry said:
Do you like lots of party customization, or do you consider that a sort of afterthought?
That’s usually the divider I make between different Final Fantasies. I’d say 6 is falls on the ”less customization” (while still having its fair share) side while 7 falls on the ”more customization” side.

Then there’s also the question of how much you’d prefer it to be fantasy ad how much tech you want in it? Both 6 and 7 have lots of tech but it looks pretty different as you no doubt felt.

For straight up ”good for newcomers” games I’d recommend (apart from 7) 4, 9 and 10, but 9 is also elevated by how much you know the reoccurring themes from the series, but it’s not ”required reading” to enjoy 9.

I think 9 is the best, most pure distilled form of Final Fantasy, but my personal favorites are 5, 7 and 10.
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I'm pretty open to either lots of tech or no tech, and I'd say I lean more towards wanting more party customization.

I'm leaning more towards either 4 or 5 right now, as I've enjoyed Square's SNES offerings a great deal so far.
 
RanmyakuIchi said:
I'm pretty open to either lots of tech or no tech, and I'd say I lean more towards wanting more party customization.

I'm leaning more towards either 4 or 5 right now, as I've enjoyed Square's SNES offerings a great deal so far.
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I'm not a huge fan of FF4 myself (only due to having played it a billion times and sort of expanded from there) but it's a very good game to see the first time Final Fantasy really found its footing. It's a very seminal game, and for a console game from 1991 it's got a surprisingly deep/fleshed out plot with lots of themes that resonate well with people and became mainstays of the entire franchise. Love, sacrifice, honor, all that good stuff.
As far as party customization though, it has exactly 0. It's very much a story-first kind of game, and you have no control over which characters you have in your party, and you can't edit them aside from equipment. That also means that every fight is sort of designed around your party at all times though, so it's not all bad.

Final Fantasy 5 is very unique in that it has a story that is really light AND light-hearted compared to just about every other FF game. And it's the one that really defined the Job system, which lets you change classes on all characters and combine various abilities from different jobs once you get experience with them.
It having a light-hearted story doesn't mean it lacks impactful or emotional moments however, but it's a "different" FF in that it kind of feels like an episodic adventure where you adventure around the world solving one quest at a time which slowly inches you towards the greater plot.
 
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My favorite final fantasy is FFTA(final fantasy tactics advance) on gba. In this game there is a skill for thief which remove forever.steal:ability. With this ability humans and moogels become super bug. I love final fantasy tactics because their isometric graphic and learning mechanic. Any body like it?
 
happymasksalesman said:
My favorite final fantasy is FFTA(final fantasy tactics advance) on gba. In this game there is a skill for thief which remove forever.steal:ability. With this ability humans and moogels become super bug. I love final fantasy tactics because their isometric graphic and learning mechanic. Any body like it?
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I played way too much of it. I got most of my characters up to level 99, maxed all of their jobs. I remember I couldn't 100% the game because there was a quest item I needed for one of the missions that I couldn't get anymore.
 
GardeniaSky said:
I played way too much of it. I got most of my characters up to level 99, maxed all of their jobs. I remember I couldn't 100% the game because there was a quest item I needed for one of the missions that I couldn't get anymore.
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I know that freak mission. You should play with others, because it is a revision mission(something like that). This was a Trick to make players play together.
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GardeniaSky said:
I played way too much of it. I got most of my characters up to level 99, maxed all of their jobs. I remember I couldn't 100% the game because there was a quest item I needed for one of the missions that I couldn't get anymore.
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Did you play final fantasy tactics lion wars? That game is crazy! You can make enemy to allies by specific job called orator. The problem is random encounter level set by max level you have in your party!
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I think I find a way to get online and multiplayer stuff. With vba link it is possible.
 
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happymasksalesman said:
My favorite final fantasy is FFTA(final fantasy tactics advance) on gba. In this game there is a skill for thief which remove forever.steal:ability. With this ability humans and moogels become super bug. I love final fantasy tactics because their isometric graphic and learning mechanic. Any body like it?
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FFTA is probably a close favourite for me because of it's message which I think is important but I prefer FFT: WoL. Everything about Ivalice setting is incredibly charming! The music of FFT is thematically some of the best in the franchise. Just listening to the victory screen gives me a deep sense of nostalgia. I think the creator went on to score Valkyria Chronicles if I remember correctly!

What I really love about FFT is that it's essentially an old european fable about knighthood and honour which is something that's very close to my heart. You already mentioned Orator but my own personal favourite is the Arithmetician, it's incredibly OP with the right job setup. There's some absolute game breaking combinations available in FFT, my only real complaints is that I wish I didn't have to kill so much as a Dark Knight because you're usually overleveled by the time it's through. And the Mime, and the Archer I think definitely need a rework. People often complain about dancers and bards which do need some love as well but if you have a troupe with a Bard they can work.
 
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YuriSukiSan said:
FFTA is probably a close favourite for me because of it's message which I think is important but I prefer FFT: WoL. Everything about Ivalice setting is incredibly charming! The music of FFT is thematically some of the best in the franchise. Just listening to the victory screen gives me a deep sense of nostalgia. I think the creator went on to score Valkyria Chronicles if I remember correctly!

What I really love about FFT is that it's essentially an old european fable about knighthood and honour which is something that's very close to my heart. You already mentioned Orator but my own personal favourite is the Arithmetician, it's incredibly OP with the right job setup. There's some absolute game breaking combinations available in FFT, my only real complaints is that I wish I didn't have to kill so much as a Dark Knight because you're usually overleveled by the time it's through. And the Mime, and the Archer I think definitely need a rework. People often complain about dancers and bards which do need some love as well but if you have a troupe with a Bard they can work.
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Orator was really weird. He can turn every enemy to allies in any level.
 
Since 2020, I've slowly but surely been working my way through the Final Fantasy series. I've played a lot of spinoffs that definitely slowed down my progress, but I can finally say that I've completed I - XVI (minus the MMOs). I've still got the XIII sequels and X-2 to get through at a future date, but it's been a big journey for me and a really fun one to blast through.

Before anyone asks, it's a boring answer but Final Fantasy X is probably my favorite.
 
Tonberry said:
I'm not a huge fan of FF4 myself (only due to having played it a billion times and sort of expanded from there) but it's a very good game to see the first time Final Fantasy really found its footing. It's a very seminal game, and for a console game from 1991 it's got a surprisingly deep/fleshed out plot with lots of themes that resonate well with people and became mainstays of the entire franchise. Love, sacrifice, honor, all that good stuff.
As far as party customization though, it has exactly 0. It's very much a story-first kind of game, and you have no control over which characters you have in your party, and you can't edit them aside from equipment. That also means that every fight is sort of designed around your party at all times though, so it's not all bad.
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I ended up starting a FFIV playthrough earlier today and have been enjoying it. I can't imagine I'm very far along yet (just beat the Antlion), but I get what you mean about the linearity of the player party so far. I like the cast and story that I've seen though, and get the feeling I'm going to enjoy my time with this one.

Thanks again for humoring a total amateur question.
 
Hey guys! I've never tried Final Fantasy before, doesn't hurt to try something new. Should I play them in order?
 
FlameSpice said:
Hey guys! I've never tried Final Fantasy before, doesn't hurt to try something new. Should I play them in order?
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no. start with either 4 or 10, then 5, 6, 9 and 12. then 7 and 8. 1, 2 and 3 should be saved for last. they are the roughest in terms of gameplay.
you can play them in whatever order that you want, they don't share stories, only a few common elements like chocobos, moogles, summons and a few common enemies.
 
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MasterEn said:
no. start with either 4 or 10, then 5, 6, 9 and 12. then 7 and 8. 1, 2 and 3 should be saved for last. they are the roughest in terms of gameplay.
you can play them in whatever order that you want, they don't share stories, only a few common elements like chocobos, moogles, summons and a few common enemies.
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Thanks for this! ::peacemario
 
FlameSpice said:
Thanks for this! ::peacemario
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you're welcome. if you have any questions about any of the games, feel free to ask me or anyone else who's made a post on this thread. we've all got plenty of knowledge and info on practically every game in the series.
 
FlameSpice said:
Hey guys! I've never tried Final Fantasy before, doesn't hurt to try something new. Should I play them in order?
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You can definitely jump around if you know that the post-X entries get real wacky with their systems and that the NES/SNES games definitely feel like old (but still good!) games.

My personal suggestion for basically anyone would be to start with X; I just think it's one of the most accessible games in the series across all fronts. I'd probably then push someone to VII after that just because it's the most "famous" entry, and then say go wild from there in whatever order you wish.

My order was this:
  1. X (as a kid, gave up)
  2. VII
  3. XV
  4. I
  5. IV
  6. XVI
  7. VI
  8. IX
  9. III
  10. X (adult attempt)
  11. V
  12. VIII
  13. II
  14. XII
  15. XIII
 
Alright everyone I done it yup I beaten Final Fantasy 9 and man what a game...

First the game is the only one of the PS1 trilogy that has a main menu theme FF7/FF8 had an intro theme which FF8 takes the lead in that one its worth mentioning the main menu theme is unique making it the third game with unique main menu music with 5 and tactics followed by 9 but hold up if you thought you won't hear the Final Fantasy theme YOU ARE DEAD WRONG.

For the first time ever you get to play as someone that isn't a swordsman infact you play as a humanoid monkey who is a thief with daggers/twin blade swords being our main weapon almost all FF protagonists are always seen with swords and depicted with swords zidane being the dagger guy is such a breath of fresh air , but it doesn't end here oh boy it gets better FF9 brings back classic jobs like black mage and its also the first 3d FF game that has black mages/white mages And they look as good as ever.

The way the black mages are depicted is different from FF4 they were quite nasty people in that game , in FF1 I pictured my black mage as an arrogant and cocky fella who tries to hit on a mermaid just to get dragged away by the warrior yeah I built a little tidbits of story for my party in FF1 , in FF9 black mages are always afraid of people like how are these guys weapons of mass destruction?

Well the answer lies in a cinematic and this game features the most cinematics out of all FF games I played so far while 7/8 had them 8 being a huge improvement in that regard compared to 7 but 9 just swoops both aside cinematic after cinematic it just keeps coming and it gets better each time...square outdone not only themselves but blizzard who I consider to be the master craftsmen in CGI work mind you FF9 came out same year as diablo 2.

The game follows a similar character design to 4 and 6 with each character having a unique command we play as zidane and our unique command is steal and "skill" this has to the game I used steal the most I stole everything from equipment to items and built up an elixir and ether surplus just from stealing , other characters like beloved princess garnet or dagger is a white mage/summoner the game does have characters that have 2 "jobs" like eiko and dagger being summoners and white mages and amarant being a monk/ninja , also the sorcerer job from FF5 makes a comeback with steiner and vivi combo.

The game takes on mechanics from 8 like abilities and synth shops and abilities aren't limited to having 20% more magic or being able to cast doom there is a wide variety of abilities each character can learn combined with magic spells and some other stuff for people like freya and amarant , you get to be immune to certain status effects most importantly petrify and stop , I focused on being high ability/evasion with MP attack I could deal some serious damage leaving tanking for other party members , freya indeed got dragon killer equipped at all time its just appropriate , for steiner I went full on tank with HP abilities equipped and counter a knight like him should have mastered the art of counterattack , magicians got to be most immune to status effects due to them not having abilities like +HP or MP attack or any of the killer abilities.

Card game wise it easier to understand than FF8 as if I understand how FF8 card game plays I just won through sheer luck in FF9 however while not being as good as 8 in terms of card game does allow for epic comebacks I won many games by picking weak cards and placing the last card just to pull off some combo ending the game in my favor.

The game start off a bit light hearted and gets more serious as time goes on it reminds me of FF5 especially in moments like the wind shrine with vivi getting pushed away by wind , square humor never gets old or unfunny.

Speaking of wind shrine the game is full of FF1/FF2 references and tropes I looked at the game logo and saw something looking like a crystal but never got to see one in the game but I soon found the 4 elemental stones? Not crystals exactly idk what to do with them , then we find mirrors? And go on to look for elemental shrines? Hold up are we going into FF1 story now? Wait is that GARLAND? What a sinister name...I didn't expect garland to make a comeback like this and his castle is named pandemonium?AND IT HAS A SIMILAR THEME TO FF2 CASTLE PANDEMONIUM? My my are we going back to roots are we? With ramuh the eidolon challenging us to piece a story together and the story just happens to be that of Joseph from FF2 add on it regent cid wife being named Hilda similar to princess hilda from FF2! But what has to be the best part is the 4 elemental fiends make a comeback I WASN'T expecting to fight 3d lich with sound! And a fully animated kraken who still sprays ink at me....THIS IS INSANE it really feels like square wanted to revisit some of the older games especially with the whole fiends of elements being renamed to chaos guardians at that point I was thinking we face chaos himself in all 3d glory I said we don't hear the FF theme right? Well we somehow go to a crystal world with the iconic theme playing!!! No way they just keep making it better and better and so many music pieces feel and sound similar to previous ones like the boss fight music being similar to FF5 boss music , and guess what ? THE BASS MAKES A RETURN at first I didn't notice but after 2-3 fights I was like "wait I know this starting part I heard it somewhere before is that the? The BASS? DAAAAMN THEY BROUGHT THE BASS BACK!!!" Nothing beats the BASS man NOTHING beats the bass , the section when zidane is momentarily depressed in castle pandemonium has similar theme to FF4 world theme , and man I can't be imagining things but lindblum castle feels like what the devs wanted fiagro castle to look like can't help but shed a tear for how far we came imagine being a FF player in 1994 thinking castle fiagro is peak video game castle and 6 years later you are in lindblum castle outstanding work square.

Freya has many similarities to the original dragoon gareth both were away from their homeland when it got destroyed but freya actually feels like she failed her people while gareth is like "tf? What happened? Bro where the bros at?" Freya is a well written gareth.

The game goes from amazing to even more amazing to excellent to Excellency and kuja deserves a mention dude isn't super powerful or a know it all he loses his mind when garland tells him he will die soon...he is the first FF villain that I had a little sympathy for in the end saving the team and all.

The game beautifully ends with us reuniting with princess garnet had to wipe a few tears as credits rolled and the prologue theme from FF1 played

If I give FF7 a 12/10 and FF8 a 10/10 then FF9 gets an 11/10

Virtue
You don't need a reason to help others

Sorrow
How do you prove that you exist? Maybe we don't exist...!?

Solitude
I don't want to be alone anymore

I had these idle quotes pop up when I was preparing a yerba mate cup with the game on I was like "wait I never seen these before?"

"City people are scary"
-vivi

PRINCESS
-steiner yelling PRINCESS for the 10th billion time

Oh and airship theme is easily one if not the best so far.

Up next FF3 famicom
 
I just defeated Sanctuary Keeper in FF10 and so far it feels like the only boss fight where I've had to actually use my brain. It had lots of clever behavior that countered lots of strategies. The difficulty in general sort of upped when I came to Gagazet because of the monster compositions.

People call Seymour Flux insanely hard but I beat that guy in four minutes because I went in with my Aeons preloaded and just blasted him (I didn't look up the fight beforehand), but it made me wonder why people claim Flux is harder than Sanctuary Keeper?

Pandaprewmaster325 said:
Alright everyone I done it yup I beaten Final Fantasy 9 and man what a game...
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Total masterpiece in every sense of the word. As I've said a million times, it's not my favorite but I firmly stand by that it's the best Final Fantasy.
I love how the main menu and Terra go hand in hand, and how it's a kind of revelation when you realize the name of the main menu theme. It sounds like a memory, while Terra is the real deal. Shivers every time.
 
Tonberry said:
I just defeated Sanctuary Keeper in FF10 and so far it feels like the only boss fight where I've had to actually use my brain. It had lots of clever behavior that countered lots of strategies. The difficulty in general sort of upped when I came to Gagazet because of the monster compositions.

People call Seymour Flux insanely hard but I beat that guy in four minutes because I went in with my Aeons preloaded and just blasted him (I didn't look up the fight beforehand), but it made me wonder why people claim Flux is harder than Sanctuary Keeper?
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i think it's the first time that you get zombie as a status aliment in the game, so you wouldn't be used to it. even nowadays, that battle does always seem harder than the sanctuary keeper to me.
 

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