Final Fantasy Thread

[Jangiku]

what is that from?

An easter egg from Deus Ex: Human Revolution

 

[Tonberry]

Looking back, I appreciate the political themes in FF7 and Tactics. Tactics, especially, with its scathing critique of religion and the themes about class warfare.

Same.
Those themes are my favorite in FF14 by far, and I’m sad they toned the diplomatic mission feel down in favor of more ”generic” save-the-world adventures (even though both have always coexisted in the game).

It’s still there occasionally but usually not in the same way as before. The writing in general feels more juvenile than it used to.

 

[Sinsic30]

hello - i own final fantasy 16 but has yet to play it - i really enjoyed ff15 and the brotherhood that it made me feel - the cooking - just the overrall exp of the game - is ff16 gonna make me feel good and comtible like this lol - or is this a totally diff exp

 

[Tonberry]

is ff16 gonna make me feel good and comtible like this lol - or is this a totally diff exp

Completely different.
16 is a much more serious story in general, and way more linear so there's not that "exploring with the gang" feel, but I don't mean that as a necessarily bad thing, just that they're very different.

 

[Sinsic30]

Completely different.
16 is a much more serious story in general, and way more linear so there's not that "exploring with the gagn" feel, but I don't mean that as a necessarily bad thing, just that they're very different.

o :-(

 

[88cmflak]

i really enjoyed ff15 and the brotherhood that it made me feel - the cooking - just the overrall exp of the game

Thank goodness I'm not the only one who actually enjoy ff15 exploration. Though the story is a mess..

Completely different.
16 is a much more serious story in general, and way more linear so there's not that "exploring with the gang" feel, but I don't mean that as a necessarily bad thing, just that they're very different.

I guess they're going back to its roots then. How much linear is it compared to FF VII remake?

I still wish squenix to at least integrate a bit of that open world feeling FFXV had. It doesn't have to be as open as Xenoblade but those linear rpg gameplay is caused by hardware limitations back in the day. They can do so much better now.

 

[Tonberry]

Thank goodness I'm not the only one who actually enjoy ff15 exploration. Though the story is a mess..


I guess they're going back to its roots then. How much linear is it compared to FF VII remake?

I still wish squenix to at least integrate a bit of that open world feeling FFXV had. It doesn't have to be as open as Xenoblade but those linear rpg gameplay is caused by hardware limitations back in the day. They can do so much better now.

I've not played enough of 16 to warrant any real thoughts, and I only watched my brother play FF7R (the first part), sorry, which looked like it was structured almost like a Yakuza game. I feel like 16 is more open than that, but as I said I haven't really played it enough to be knowledgeable, but it's not an open world game I don't think?

 

[88cmflak]

I've not played enough of 16 to warrant any real thoughts, and I only watched my brother play FF7R (the first part), sorry, which looked like it was structured almost like a Yakuza game. I feel like 16 is more open than that, but as I said I haven't really played it enough to be knowledgeable, but it's not an open world game I don't think?

Yakuza definitely feels more open world and have more things to do besides main quest (though much smaller) than ff7 remake which is very linear and I have played both. So maybe I'm not going to buy ff16 anytime soon

 

[Tonberry]

Yakuza definitely feels more open world and have more things to do besides main quest (though much smaller) than ff7 remake which is very linear and I have played both. So maybe I'm not going to buy ff16 anytime soon

Just don't take my word as whether or not you should get 16. I haven't played enough of it to be able to persuade or dissuade you.
My brother enjoyed it a lot. My biggest gripe is the rapid action gameplay. FF7R was a better inbetween action and menus imo.

 

[Heinzu]

Well, a small remake of Final Fantasy 7 It's okay but there is not much to experience there.

 

[Heinzu]

Hmm, I wouldn't have expected that Final Fantasy 6 would be his favorite but I could imagine that this game will probably be the next remake well hopefully they don't mess it up.

 

[starseeker300]

So a question for you all, which is the better way to play the original ff tactics, war of the lions tweak or the ivalice chronicles?

 

[MasterEn]

So a question for you all, which is the better way to play the original ff tactics, war of the lions tweak or the ivalice chronicles?

probably one of the mods for the original like fft prime; i think one of the mods includes the extra content from the psp version in it. the ivalice chronicles remaster doesn't include the extra stuff, but does have a few new things that would be helpful like an option to enter random battles.
here's more info on the wiki page:

Final Fantasy Tactics

Final Fantasy Tactics is a strategy role-playing game in the Final Fantasy series. It was released for the PlayStation in June 1997. It has since been re-released as the updated Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions (ファイナルファンタジータクティクス 獅子戦争, Fainaru Fantajī Takutikusu Shishi Sensō?) for the...

finalfantasy.fandom.com

 

[Tonberry]

So a question for you all, which is the better way to play the original ff tactics, war of the lions tweak or the ivalice chronicles?

I prefer the modern script so no PSX version for me. I'm currently playing the PSP version with the slowdowns fixed. Can't justify a purchase of Ivalice Chronicles right now and it's my first time so I don't mind.
There's an overhead view in Ivalice Chronicles that I wish I had on PSP though.

 

[Stingy Perry Stingy Perry]

For some of you may or not know back in the ‘90s a year or two before Final Fantasy 7, there were rumors that Squaresoft was in development of what supposed to be FF game for the N64.

We all know Square ditched the big N for Sony because of its stubbornness regarding the use of game cartridges.

Like an old saying goes where this smoke there’s fire, well the smoke is some leaked footages of a 3D demo of supposed FF which could’ve been FF 7 for the N64.

But the truth is it’s a SGI demo containing FF 6 characters Locke, Terra and Shadow that Square showed at some developers convention that they are on the transitioning from 2D to 3D. I honestly thought of making this a full blown article but I couldn’t dig up anymore details aside from this horrendous video.

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

yes, they made this demo in the old Silicon Graphics workstations presumably to demonstrate what was possible in the Ultra 64. They even published articles about it in Nintendo Power. I was super hyped for it back in the day since it implied a sequel to Final Fantasy 6, but it really was nothing more than demo, as far as I can tell. And yeah, Sony strolled in with their CD based console, which allowed them to store 10-15 times the data per disc for the cutscenes, and the rest is history.

 

[ThatOneLum ThatOneLum]

I had never actually heard about this demo before so that's pretty neat.

In some ways it would have been interesting to see what become of FF in the alternate future where they released the series on the N64 as well, but I also feel like we'd have seen much smaller experiences due to how much data the n64 was capable of holding.

Isn't that a huge part of the reason that RPGs are sort of hard to find on that system? Because modern RPGs (for the time) would have held far too much data and old-school (for the time) RPGs would have been seen as out-dated.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

For some of you may or not know back in the ‘90s a year or two before Final Fantasy 7, there were rumors that Squaresoft was in development of what supposed to be FF game for the N64.

We all know Square ditched the big N for Sony because of its stubbornness regarding the use of game cartridges.

Like an old saying goes where this smoke there’s fire, well the smoke is some leaked footages of a 3D demo of supposed FF which could’ve been FF 7 for the N64.

But the truth is it’s a SGI demo containing FF 6 characters Locke, Terra and Shadow that Square showed at some developers convention that they are on the transitioning from 2D to 3D. I honestly thought of making this a full blown article but I couldn’t dig up anymore details aside from this horrendous video.

As much as this game was probably never meant to be an actual FF I am sad they've ditched chibi characters.

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

Isn't that a huge part of the reason that RPGs are sort of hard to find on that system? Because modern RPGs (for the time) would have held far too much data and old-school (for the time) RPGs would have been seen as out-dated.

Yes, CG cutscenes were the wave of the future at the time, and most 3rd party devs bailed on the N64, JRPG and otherwise.

 

[DanCalibur]

Pictures of that demo were in every gaming magazine at the time, Earthbound 64 was also teased. They say the former president of Nintendo, Hiroshi Yamauchi cut ties completely with Square after the announcement of FF7 for the PSX. It was only when he retired in 2002 and Satoru Iwata became president that Square was "allowed" to release games for Nintendo systems again.

 

[Phage]

I mean, I hate to sound like "that guy", but this isn't exactly article worthy. It's old news. It was a tech demo to show what was possible on the N64, wasn't anything even approaching a full game, and there were screenshots of it in magazine back in the 90's calling it out as such. It's a neat bit of trivia for fans of gaming and FF in particular, but nothing more than that.

Trying to make it out to be a potential FF for the N64 that got canned is sensationalist and clickbait-y.

 

[MemeAlert]

For some of you may or not know back in the ‘90s a year or two before Final Fantasy 7, there were rumors that Squaresoft was in development of what supposed to be FF game for the N64.

We all know Square ditched the big N for Sony because of its stubbornness regarding the use of game cartridges.

Like an old saying goes where this smoke there’s fire, well the smoke is some leaked footages of a 3D demo of supposed FF which could’ve been FF 7 for the N64.

But the truth is it’s a SGI demo containing FF 6 characters Locke, Terra and Shadow that Square showed at some developers convention that they are on the transitioning from 2D to 3D. I honestly thought of making this a full blown article but I couldn’t dig up anymore details aside from this horrendous video.

We all seen Did You Know Gaming videos, this is nothing new.

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

Trying to make it out to be a potential FF for the N64 that got canned is sensationalist and clickbait-y.

I disagree. If you look at the Nintendo Power article, they tried to sell it as the starting point for the next Final Fantasy game on the N64. Of course, Nintendo Power is a marketing magazine for Nintendo, so they aren't exactly objective but it wasn't outlandish to make that claim based on the information at the time.

 

[Guinea]

Once I'm done with Tales of Arise I'm finally going to play FF Type-0. Or maybe Bravely Default II since I've had it for like 5 years in my backlog.

 

[Sheepy765]

Once I'm done with Tales of Arise I'm finally going to play FF Type-0. Or maybe Bravely Default II since I've had it for like 5 years in my backlog.

Type-0's intro is so sad...