Final Fantasy Megathread

[Mojacko Amano]

I played Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy II, Final Fantasy IV, Final Fantasy V, Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy IX (Favorite Game) and Final Fantasy X.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

yeah, 6-9 are weird with the limit breakers. 6 has only 1, limits replace the attack command when ready, 8 has it locked to low hp if i remember correctly, 9 allows you to fill it up faster but it activates when the bar is full, no matter what. 10 did limit breaks the best.

Wait FF6 has a limit break? I think FF8 solved the issue of attack command getting replaced with ultimate that was a problem in FF7 and FF9 just bullshits you into ultimate mode sometimes

i don't have to grind to get the paladin equipment, but i usually get that after coming back from mt ordeals.

I do remember buying a little too much potions before going to the mountain

she took all of my materia and it took forever to get her to join; so much so that when she did join, i didn't want her on my team any more.

After getting fooled 3 times by her what i did was use emulator save to get the correct dialouge then the other stuff happened but yeah i think i lost some 1000 gil before that , she has pretty good ultimates and a cool throw skill that i threw cid javelin by mistake a weapon which i threw away before getting to use it

ff7 got 2 prequels, an ova, a 3d movies sequel, a ps2 game and a book to tie the game to the movie and then the bullshit mislabeled remake/sequel on the playstation systems. also, several characters from the game appear in other media, like kingdom hearts, and smash bros. which comes off a bit tone deaf since the n64 is the system that made squaresoft jump over to the ps1, and the characters selected to represent ff are cloud and sephiroth, from the game that they made for sony because their system was "better".

Well that's a hell lot of attention man....but can you disagree with square thinking PS1 is better? They are into something there...

i kind of disagree on them caring about ff4 a lot. the ds remake is fantastic, but the sequel game is pure shit. and the novelization of the sequel is just as terrible. it goes with the bad ending as the canon ending, so whoever wrote it hates the whole series. but i don't think they were thinking anything through when they wrote that.

I heard bad stuff about after the years well guess that's one game i need to play at one point and bad ending? Sheesh

the ff5 anime is a sequel, so it doesn't have to directly connect to the game, but some references or call back would be appreciated.

It gets the game vibes correctly and seeing tycoon was cool shame it's too short to show FF5 world

since square enix only made the ff7 remake sequel because they need money [they actually said this in a press briefing], we will most likely only see ff7 getting any love unless everyone on the planet never buys anything related to it and only purchase the other installments.

Companies being companies nothing new

 

[MasterEn]

Wait FF6 has a limit break? I think FF8 solved the issue of attack command getting replaced with ultimate that was a problem in FF7 and FF9 just bullshits you into ultimate mode sometimes

yeah. it's not presented as one, but it seems like it was to test the idea out. Terra's esper form.

I do remember buying a little too much potions before going to the mountain

i bought a few as well, but i don't run from any fights nowadays; so i tend to have a bit more money than i used to have on earlier playthroughs when i was younger.

After getting fooled 3 times by her what i did was use emulator save to get the correct dialouge then the other stuff happened but yeah i think i lost some 1000 gil before that , she has pretty good ultimates and a cool throw skill that i threw cid javelin by mistake a weapon which i threw away before getting to use it

save states don't exist on a ps1.

Well that's a hell lot of attention man....but can you disagree with square thinking PS1 is better? They are into something there...

yes, i do disagree. more storage space does not mean a game will be good. many of the best games have a very small amount of space to work with, which helps breed creativity. the large space of a cd is the main thing that enticed square to jump ship. and considering that they were on their 2nd start for ff7 when they jumped over to the ps1, another few months of work was scrapped in addition to the year of work done for the snes version. they had a year and a half to finish the game in a 3-year deadline. that's why disc one is good and it falls off of a cliff after that.

I heard bad stuff about after the years well guess that's one game i need to play at one point and bad ending? Sheesh

yeah. there's, 3 ending if i remember correctly. and because of the story for the after years, the bad ending screws over all of the games in the series.

It gets the game vibes correctly and seeing tycoon was cool shame it's too short to show FF5 world

that was during an era where you would be lucky to get 1 short set of anime episodes, let alone a whole season.

Companies being companies nothing new

yeah.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

yeah. it's not presented as one, but it seems like it was to test the idea out. Terra's esper form.

Thought of it more as a special ability just like every other character had one

i bought a few as well, but i don't run from any fights nowadays; so i tend to have a bit more money than i used to have on earlier playthroughs when i was younger.

The game hates me then it decided to steal my money , not first time square JRPG screws over my money (looking at you chrono trigger)

save states don't exist on a ps1.

Bad luck man bad luck

not mean a game will be good. many of the best games have a very small amount of space to work with, which helps breed creativity. the large space of a cd is the main thing that enticed square to jump ship. and considering that they were on their 2nd start for ff7 when they jumped over to the ps1, another few months of work was scrapped in addition to the year of work done for the snes version. they had a year and a half to finish the game in a 3-year deadline. that's why disc one is good and it falls off of a cliff after that.

There is a noticeable shift in pace after disc 1 agree , honestly i think what we got is the more refined version it's always like that , initial planning phases with lots of scrapped ideas as the game matures and all

yeah. there's, 3 ending if i remember correctly. and because of the story for the after years, the bad ending screws over all of the games in the series.

Gulp that's going to be a bad memory

that was during an era where you would be lucky to get 1 short set of anime episodes, let alone a whole sea

Fr? I never watched anime so legend of the crystals can count as my first proper anime I'm not well versed in this section of entertainment so idk...

 

[MasterEn]

Thought of it more as a special ability just like every other character had one

her esper form triggers randomly, if i remember correctly. i haven't gotten to that part before, but that's what i've heard about it.

The game hates me then it decided to steal my money , not first time square JRPG screws over my money (looking at you chrono trigger)

did you run from a lot of battles?

Bad luck man bad luck

i didn't know that she was in the game. i was just running around and the event occurred and i kept messing up the choices in the event.

There is a noticeable shift in pace after disc 1 agree , honestly i think what we got is the more refined version it's always like that , initial planning phases with lots of scrapped ideas as the game matures and all

it most likely is. the original plan was apparently deemed "too dark", so they split it up between 7, 8, and xenogears.

Gulp that's going to be a bad memory

yep. but i avoided that so everything hopefully works out in the end. we will never know for certain, but i would hope that the last plot thread ends up on a positive note.

Fr? I never watched anime so legend of the crystals can count as my first proper anime I'm not well versed in this section of entertainment so idk...

yeah, it was pretty common for a series to exist more like a set of movies, like city hunter. or just be one offs like ninja scroll or a short ova like angel cop or mad bull 34 or armitage the 3rd. but sometimes that can work out in favor of the show in question, like cowboy bebop. the creators knew that they would most likely get one season, so they accepted that and that's why the show has a atmosphere of finality hanging throughout it.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

her esper form triggers randomly, if i remember correctly. i haven't gotten to that part before, but that's what i've heard about it.

No no i remember it was a command , early on the 2nd form ends quickly so much so it lasts a turn

did you run from a lot of battles?

No i hardly ran from anything in FF4 save for the last couple sections with that mask thing

 

[MasterEn]

No no i remember it was a command , early on the 2nd form ends quickly so much so it lasts a turn

i didn't get that far, so i was just going by what i read; and that was a few years ago.

No i hardly ran from anything in FF4 save for the last couple sections with that mask thing

then i'm not sure why you were having trouble getting money then. leveling up your characters a couple of times in a new area should get you enough funds for a few new upgrades.

 

[Sheepy765]

Someday I’m hoping we get a remake of the other two Tactics games, Advance and A2 are really enjoyable I think.

 

[ObscureJigglypuff]

Although i never played FF7 Remake (or even Rebirth) i have bunch of hours watching gameplays of both, and my biggest problem with those (if i compare them with the OG ff7) it gotta be the tone of the story and characters.

I'm not the biggest fan of OG ff7 but i like more the artistic choices in there, more serious and less comedic.

 

[JellyjamLu]

Remake scenes lack impact & artistically at that.

Which image is more striking?

This?

Foreboding, lightning strike in the background, eerie music accompanies the scene, blood. Was it really Sephiroth? how did he do it? this guy must be insanely strong!
Has you guessing, more interesting.


or this?

Lame... plus you see Sephiroth actually do it with random basic magic, so the mystery of how from the original is gone.

and that's just one ruined iconic scene out of like... a billion that i can pull.

 

[Morgan Katarn]

What I wanted just like most remakes I want is a Graphical overhaul with quality of life improvements.

Take freelancer I love that game to death but like allot of 1990s early 3D games they have not aged that well grapicly they look 100 times worse than 2d sprites of the snes era. Allot of PS1 and PC 3D games from the 90 looks bad and could do with a grapical uplift.

Then quality of life improvements take Warcraft orcs and humans a good early RTS games that buy today standard have horrible controls and I always wished for a remake on the game to have as good controls like warcraft 2 and 3 had. And that´s just what the remaster did classic game play with modern controls. Just what I wanted.


Final fantasy 7 remake is not Final fantasy 7 it´s a reboot or one could call it FF7 another story. It´s not the game I grew up and loved and it´s an expensive greedy move. Back in the day I bought the game for 59.99 I got the full game on 3disc. Today you got 2 parts out of 3 and your having to pay full price for each for making you pay over 100 dollar for complete game.

And to idiots that try to defend it saying that each part is like it´s own game so it´s worth paying full price for each part. yeah It might be it´s own full game but still your having to over 100 bucks to get the FULL story. Imagine if a game you bought sold you the ending as a DLC for 59.99 I mean you don´t need it becuse the game you baught is a game on it´s own you just don´t get an ending.

Final fantasy 7 remake is not a bad game it´s what I would call Final fantasy 7 another story and a greedy move by square enix becuse they know FANS are morons that you can easly ripp of if you slap their favorite name on it.

 

[starseeker300]

No i hardly ran from anything in FF4 save for the last couple sections with that mask thing

same, screw those death masks, im glad they never came back in any future games

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

i didn't get that far, so i was just going by what i read; and that was a few years ago

Very haram of you to not continue Final Fantasy 6 I'm so offended right now

then i'm not sure why you were having trouble getting money then. leveling up your characters a couple of times in a new area should get you enough funds for a few new upgrades.

Anyway i eventually bought the equipment and everything went smoothly for the most part

same, screw those death masks, im glad they never came back in any future games

I tried to properly fight them once and it just felt like fighting a hacker lol

 

[MasterEn]

Very haram of you to not continue Final Fantasy 6 I'm so offended right now

i don't know what that word is, but i will assume that it is not good. i was playing the psx version alongside the ff5 psx version many years ago but i had to start focusing on my college classes more at that point so i had to stop at that point. it's on my list to play. i'll most likely play the snes version after i get done with ff3 [psp] and ff1 renaissance classic mode.

Anyway i eventually bought the equipment and everything went smoothly for the most part

that's good.

I tried to properly fight them once and it just felt like fighting a hacker lol

that enemy is level 99, which is 3 more than the final boss. if it makes you feel better, it has a def stat of 4 and a magic def of 19. :)

 

[ObscureJigglypuff]

So I'm playing FF Type-0 and I wanted a place to talk about my experience with the game. I'm also planning to play FF7 or FF10 next, Type-0 is a pretty good game. I didn't expected to find a more mature plot on a Final Fantasy game. I hope there's more games like it.

FF Type-0 was a pleasant surprise.

It's a bit sad for me that some of the context you need for the game is actually outside the game itself. And the main characters are not exactly memorable.
This game had so much potential, i think is too short, and some ideas are not great. I have so much to say about this fking game xD

I'll admit that i cried a lot at one of the ends and hated the most happy one.

Some of the OST is very inspirational, remind me the FFX religious songs that also make me cry, especially the infrit one, it's very spiritual.

 

[Sheepy765]

It's a bit sad for me that some of the context you need for the game is actually outside the game itself. And the main characters are not exactly memorable.

Hehe, get it? Because-

 

[medisinn]

I just don't know how it pleases anyone, in the sense that they aren't straight-up remaking the game, nor are they doing anything truly different. It's in this weird half-assed zone that likely will end up in the exact same place in the end as the first game did once the last part of the remake trilogy comes out. It's not the original game faithfully remade with modern tech and graphics, and they're too scared to truly deviate from the events of the original, despite the first part of the remake heavily hinting at that. So the people who wanted either of those things are probably still going to want them afterward, it's just not going to happen. I have no hopes or happy expectations at this point other than the last game wrapping things up in a somewhat coherent fashion.

I wasn't the biggest fan of the remake of Resident Evil 4, but at least it's very competently done and doesn't pretend that it's going to radically change the story compared to the original game. Sure, the scale of the game is far smaller than FF7, but they also didn't add a shit ton of filler to get more than one game out of it.

 

[thanonyx thanonyx]

In the words of Mr. Horse from Ren & Stimpy, "No sir, I don't like it."

It's like someone drew all over the Mona Lisa with crayon and said they made it better.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

i don't know what that word is, but i will assume that it is not good. i was playing the psx version alongside the ff5 psx version many years ago but i had to start focusing on my college classes more at that point so i had to stop at that point. it's on my list to play. i'll most likely play the snes version after i get done with ff3 [psp] and ff1 renaissance classic mode.

Haram means forbidden quite surprised you never heard of it before it's popular on the internet , lol i played the PS1 version it's only problem is the poorly optimized loading times otherwise the opening intro and ending cutscene make it 100% worth it along with the not so much censorship

Your list of games is unending

that enemy is level 99, which is 3 more than the final boss. if it makes you feel better, it has a def stat of 4 and a magic def of 19. :)

Yup absolute hacker

 

[Strategist Strategist]

I just don't know how it pleases anyone, in the sense that they aren't straight-up remaking the game, nor are they doing anything truly different. It's in this weird half-assed zone that likely will end up in the exact same place in the end as the first game did once the last part of the remake trilogy comes out. It's not the original game faithfully remade with modern tech and graphics, and they're too scared to truly deviate from the events of the original, despite the first part of the remake heavily hinting at that. So the people who wanted either of those things are probably still going to want them afterward, it's just not going to happen. I have no hopes or happy expectations at this point other than the last game wrapping things up in a somewhat coherent fashion.

I wasn't the biggest fan of the remake of Resident Evil 4, but at least it's very competently done and doesn't pretend that it's going to radically change the story compared to the original game. Sure, the scale of the game is far smaller than FF7, but they also didn't add a shit ton of filler to get more than one game out of it.

If they wanted to do an alternate retelling of FF7, they should've gone all in with that concept and not called it "FF7 Remake". However, they went for this weird middle place that makes everyone unhappy.

Also, it is comical how the voice acting is almost uniformly terrible in this 100mill+ game and the voice acting in the FFT remake is much better at a fraction of that budget.

 

[medisinn]

If they wanted to do an alternate retelling of FF7, they should've gone all in with that concept and not called it "FF7 Remake". However, they went for this weird middle place that makes everyone unhappy.

Also, it is comical how the voice acting is almost uniformly terrible in this 100mill+ game and the voice acting in the FFT remake is much better at a fraction of that budget.

I forgot they added voice acting to FFT, is it that good? It didn't seem like it needed it, but if it's good then why not. They didn't add anything from the PSP version right? Kinda seems like a missed opportunity. I didn't think the voice acting in FF7 was bad, but it did strip away a lot of the occasional wackiness of the original. Especially with Barret, they sanded down some of his range just with getting rid of the expletive symbol-filled comments. Cloud is pretty monotone the whole time, that doesn't help things. Oh god, I forgot about the stupid crap they do with Red XIII's voice...you know what, yeah, it actually wasn't that good. I did like Aerith and Tifa's performances though.

 

[dkpopman]

It's not what I imagined, but after part 2 I'm glad with the way they decided to go with it.

 

[MasterEn]

Haram means forbidden quite surprised you never heard of it before it's popular on the internet , lol i played the PS1 version it's only problem is the poorly optimized loading times otherwise the opening intro and ending cutscene make it 100% worth it along with the not so much censorship

i'm guessing that the word is not english in origin, so i wouldn't have heard of it until now.
yeah, that is the main draw back to the psx final fantasy games. it's easily 20 to 30 seconds of loading. it does take a while. probably one of the reasons why i have a high patience limit.

Your list of games is unending

oh yea, i have a ton of games to play and replay. i'm currently trying to get through the pikmin 1² chaos randomizer. i was stuck on day 4 for about 3 real life days due to the insane bullshit that the game was pulling. now it's happening again on day 9.

Yup absolute hacker

yeah, usually regular enemies aren't higher level than the final boss. that's usually reserved for super bosses and hidden bosses.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

i'm guessing that the word is not english in origin, so i wouldn't have heard of it until now.
yeah, that is the main draw back to the psx final fantasy games. it's easily 20 to 30 seconds of loading. it does take a while. probably one of the reasons why i have a high patience limit.

Every other Final Fantasy game on the PS1 is actually decent when it comes to transitioning between screens and all its only when trying to go into menu that FF6 is horrendous along with chrono trigger it's strange that they went through with those poor optimization choices

oh yea, i have a ton of games to play and replay. i'm currently trying to get through the pikmin 1² chaos randomizer. i was stuck on day 4 for about 3 real life days due to the insane bullshit that the game was pulling. now it's happening again on day 9.

Bet I'm gonna finish college and you didn't continue that Final Fantasy tactics playthrough? i need to try pikmin just because of how much you play that game

 

[MasterEn]

Every other Final Fantasy game on the PS1 is actually decent when it comes to transitioning between screens and all its only when trying to go into menu that FF6 is horrendous along with chrono trigger it's strange that they went through with those poor optimization choices

yeah, the loading times are a bit weird. i know it's a laser reading the data off of a cd, but considering ff 1-6 are 16 bit games for all intents and purposes, they shouldn't take that long to read and go through all of that data, since it would be about 3 mb at most. the 3d games and tactics make sense, since they were built from the ground up to run on a ps1, so they take advantage of the tech. but 2 games upgraded from nes to snes and 4 snes games taking that long to load. they could have spent a few days working on efficiency.

Bet I'm gonna finish college and you didn't continue that Final Fantasy tactics playthrough? i need to try pikmin just because of how much you play that game

for the pikmin 1² randomizer, probably. i'm doing it deathless, so a lot of rng has to be in my favor. i'm going to have to accpet some losses if i want to finish the game. so, yeah, you'll be a middle age man by the time i finish playing through this seed for the game.
i'll probably boot tactics up later and try to play something more, relaxing than a hard ass difficulty mod.
if you want any info on the pikmin games, feel free to ask. i know quite a bit of stuff about the games, especially 1 and 2. i even have a thread here on the site all about pikmin.