Switch Do you Agree with the Switch 2 Price?

Nope, you get a license on that card, and then the game downloads to your system, which is why you need high capacity and speed micro sd cards.
I thought it depended of the dev/publisher.
 
I thought it depended of the dev/publisher.
The idea = more profitability and control over the companies Intellectual property.

Pluss Nintendo i am told will offer licensing discounts if you do not put your data on the cart, so you tell me which one they would go for, regardless of consumer lash back..
 
don't personally agree to it, but I accept it. Prices have gone up since the Switch was released, what I have a problem with is them having some games for $80
 
This happens with every console company when they start "winning". PS3, Sega Saturn, WiiU, Virtual Boy, Xbox One, 3DS and the Vita. Then it all falls on their face when they try to get greedy. I HOPE Nintendo fumbles hard like the WiiU days. Im praying so they can learn once again you dont gauge out your playerbase. I wish Yamaouchi was still around to see how shit Nintendo is.
 
This happens with every console company when they start "winning". PS3, Sega Saturn, WiiU, Virtual Boy, Xbox One, 3DS and the Vita. Then it all falls on their face when they try to get greedy. I HOPE Nintendo fumbles hard like the WiiU days. Im praying so they can learn once again you dont gauge out your playerbase. I wish Yamaouchi was still around to see how shit Nintendo is.
Sega wasn't winning when they released the Saturn though.
 
The more things change, the more they stay the same ps2 is super successful, ps3 is a colossal slop, Xbox 360 prevailed despite all the fuck ups, Xbox 1 is a colossal fuck up, Wii is a "revolution" Wii U is but a whisper on the wind.

It is the arrogance in display what is really rubbing the people the wrong way, prices increase and then a multi-million dollar company needs to make their customers "pay" for them all of this monetary changes.

If the tariff in the US are triggering this then why are countries in Latin America and Europe, also getting price increases?

Latin America I may say it could be because of the currency being almost backup by the Dollar but Europe?

Makes you think, am I Paying for the distribution chains and also for the taxes, worker wages, customs?

Sorry.
 
The latest trailer for Mafia: The Old Country also revealed the price: €49.99. This sparked an online debate, primarily focused on Nintendo. Many gamers feel the Switch 2's pricing policy is unjustified, resulting in anger and malice. The gaming world needs more €50 games Two new fronts are apparently forming in the gaming world: on the one hand, Nintendo, which is implementing a new pricing policy with the imminent release of the Switch 2 (Mario Kart World will cost €89.99 at launch), and on the other, more and more publishers are releasing their games for €49.99.

The upcoming gangster epic Mafia: The Old Country will also only cost around €50 at launch. This news has generated a lot of positive feedback online. At the same time, however, more and more players are questioning the new release prices of €80 or €90, which will likely become the standard for Nintendo and Microsoft in the future. This development is particularly exciting because the €50 category has enjoyed incredible success in recent times. These include releases such as Split Fiction, Claire Obscure: Expedition 33, and The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered.

At the same time, a noticeable number of tweets criticizing Nintendo and especially Mario Kart World are receiving support (source: MrKelsGame on X).
Game development is becoming increasingly expensive. Publishers like Ubisoft justify the €80 price cap with high development costs (Assassin's Creed Shadows reportedly cost around $300 million), but this argument misses the mark with many gamers (source: Sportskeeda). The majority, it seems, prefer smaller games in the AA range. This also explains popular tweets (see above) about buying a game like Mafia: The Old Country at release just to support the €50 pricing policy—in this way sending a message to publishers. According to the motto: Less is more.

This discussion will likely reach its peak next year, when GTA 6 is released. It's not yet known what Rockstar Games is asking for the open-world game, but figures between 100 and 120 euros have been floating around the internet for some time.
 
The tech alone is worth the price. The original Switch is the best console ever. I honestly hope the trend continues. Nintendo has made mostly garbage systems to me.

Nes - great games, garbage console
Snes - great games garbage console
N64 - some solid titles ok hardware worst controller in the mainstream
Virtual Boy - OMG...nothing positive on this one
Gamecube - solid games decent hardware very nice controller
All Gameboys - great games mostly junk hardware
DS and 3ds - lets just say I like the 2ds the best...
Wii - a gimmick that was overrated
WiiU - ugh
Switch - great in most all ways
Switch 2 - even better hardware than the Switch

I think the price is high yes, but to be honest gaming is a luxory market. We are spoiled by the technology and engineering that goes into all of this stuff. The amount of effort coders and programmers do is insane. I feel lucky that I have my powerful PC, phone, Kindle and Switch. I guess I just see it different.
 
I think when you really think about what you are getting for $449, the is right. It is just the reality we are in now unfortunately. Competition for wafers for chip production is so high that things just do not get cheaper to manufacture anymore. While it probably sounds like a tired argument, inflation of various global currencies play a huge role. Besides, we have known of the Switch 2 for at least a year, before we knew the price, people should have been putting money away.
 
I think when you really think about what you are getting for $449, the is right. It is just the reality we are in now unfortunately. Competition for wafers for chip production is so high that things just do not get cheaper to manufacture anymore. While it probably sounds like a tired argument, inflation of various global currencies play a huge role. Besides, we have known of the Switch 2 for at least a year, before we knew the price, people should have been putting money away.
This is such a defeatist statement, and you would be 100% right if EVERYONE thought like thisssssssssss...

This is not how economics work, this is "reality" assssssss the consumer accepts it, can we get more value for the money they are asking for? Well the "reality" is yes, as a PC with second hand parts for that price issssss sssssstill far far cheaper then this, and you do more with it..

The cost of simply playing a game, should not be so high, this is a hobbie only, not needed to live.

With time it will get cheaper, if the market respondsssssssss to it with lack of interest, the problem, no one is doing that due to them being trained as FOMO sssssssssssince a young age.

So by accepting this, you accept the abusessssssss that come with it.

Having money to spend on this, does not mean it should be spent on this.

Value proposition should always been considered, especially when you get older. I think there should be another post asking, what is the value of the new s2...

Rant over..
 
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This is such a defeatist statement, and you would be 100% right if EVERYONE thought like thisssssssssss...

This is not how economics work, this is "reality" assssssss the consumer accepts it, can we get more value for the money they are asking for? Well the "reality" is yes, as a PC with second hand parts for that price issssss sssssstill far far cheaper then this, and you do more with it..

The cost of simply playing a game, should not be so high, this is a hobbie only, not needed to live.

With time it will get cheaper, if the market respondsssssssss to it with lack of interest, the problem, no one is doing that due to them being trained as FOMO sssssssssssince a young age.

So by accepting this, you accept the abusessssssss that come with it.

Having money to spend on this, does not mean it should be spent on this.

Value proposition should always been considered, especially when you get older. I think there should be another post asking, what is the value of the new s2...

Rant over..
A PC with second hand parts isn’t really an argument. A used anything is going to almost always be less expensive. Not to mention a PC is not focused on games but general software.

To your point about the cost of a hobby needing to be lower because it is not a necessity, I don’t follow your logic. Are you suggesting that essential items like, food, clothing, and transportation, should be priced higher because you can’t go on without them? This doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.

Games cost a lot of money to make, they are a luxury item and they have been since the beginning. Arcade games used to cost anywhere from a quarter to a dollar per play session at a time when that was significantly more money than it is today.

Am I happy about the the rising cost of commodities? No. But I understand why this happens and I’m not going to take Nintendo to task for it. If I don’t think the product is worth the money I simply won’t buy it.
 
A PC with second hand parts isn’t really an argument. A used anything is going to almost always be less expensive. Not to mention a PC is not focused on games but general software.

To your point about the cost of a hobby needing to be lower because it is not a necessity, I don’t follow your logic. Are you suggesting that essential items like, food, clothing, and transportation, should be priced higher because you can’t go on without them? This doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.

Games cost a lot of money to make, they are a luxury item and they have been since the beginning. Arcade games used to cost anywhere from a quarter to a dollar per play session at a time when that was significantly more money than it is today.

Am I happy about the the rising cost of commodities? No. But I understand why this happens and I’m not going to take Nintendo to task for it. If I don’t think the product is worth the money I simply won’t buy it.
Not to be the Devil's advocate but when you think about it, SNES games are now expensive with the inflation and with the retro market costs.
 
The systems price was never an issue for me, it was just the $80 games. And while yes I am still annoyed by it, I rarely buy games at launch full price anyway.
 
Not to be the Devil's advocate but when you think about it, SNES games are now expensive with the inflation and with the retro market costs.
I am not sure what you mean. Are you talking about the used market for SNES games or do you mean the SNES games from the 90's adjusted for inflation?

If you are talking the about the used market, those prices have long been inflated, in my opinion. Especially post pandemic, everyone thinks they are sitting on gold.

If you mean that adjusting prices from the 90's into today's market, then yeah, I will say that things are in line with what they were. The big problem is that people are just not getting paid what they were, or that is to say that wages are not adjusting with the cost of goods, which is a problem with labor. Really, the big issue is that manufacturing cost are just not coming down the way the used to and that is why we are not seeing price cuts the way we have in the past.
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The systems price was never an issue for me, it was just the $80 games. And while yes I am still annoyed by it, I rarely buy games at launch full price anyway.
So, far it is just Mario Kart that is $80, right? I think Donkey Kong is $70. Not a huge difference but I would not be surprised if we see a wider range of prices with the higher end being for games that will end up having long term cost, i.e. server upkeep, or continuous development for new content. But I don't know what will happen. In general, I don't trust the corporations to be altruistic.
 
The console price is fine. The game prices, though? Nope. Nintendo can get bent. I'll stick with my Steam Deck and continue skipping this bellyflop of a console generation entirely.
 
I'm indifferent, in a threw up my mouth a little kind of way. The worst part is that it sets a presidence.
 
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