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Just went through the longboxes, nothing worth any actual money though but there's some varied gold in here- I'm down to share some more pictures if anyone wants to take a trip through the mainly early 90s Marvel.
That would be really cool. Also were you following any of DC's titles during this time or was it only just marvel ?
Mainly Marvel, but I also followed DC and Image. I probably had another longbox or two somewhere that have been lost to time as I remember having way more of DC/Image comics than I found here.
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I took some some photos, I'll have more in a few days maybe as it's getting pretty late here in Canada. I guess I'll just drop them, maybe give a little line if its something interesting- I hadn't really thought about how I was going to do this till just now. We'll do it live.
Remember when Marvel attempted to 90s rebrand Thor as 'Thunderstrike"? You do now.
This is only a reprint before anyone gets excited thinking I have a Ditko era Spider-Man book.
Here's a grab bag of three that I read so much the covers came off; one is probably one of the first issues of Superman after he got resurrected after Doomsday complete with electric powers (they didn't last long); I have no idea who that Jack o lantern guy on the top is but I think it may be a spider man comic; and one of the early Ben Reilly Sensational Spider-Man solo series issues as I was around for the infamous Clone Saga.
Motherfuckin' Darkhawk, man.
I remember being incredibly stoked for Silver Sable, I was a young lad after all.
They just don't make art like this anymore, and that's mostly a good thing but you can't deny the sheer 'radness' of 90s X-Force art.
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Thanks for sharing, this is great stuff. That silver sable cover looks great( I'm assuming this is during the time they were really big on foil covers). I may need to check out the series since I loved her appearances in Tom DeFalco and Todd McFarlane runs. Also remember loving the back up stories from Classic X-Men.
Oh yeah, that was at the height of the 'fancy' cover boom. Every second issue of a series practically had a foil cover.
Here's a few more that I think got cut off in the attachments;
Marvel's attempt to revitalize Blade after the movie came out; it succeeded of course.
Back when Image was doing manga fusion style comics and art; this series was sick by the way.
One of my favourite Marvel characters is Iron Fist, and I will die on any hill for him. I was so hyped to get this.
The Runaways was just coming out when I was still collecting, I think it's a rather underrated series. Was glad to see Nico at least in the Midnight Suns game.
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I absolutely love Shadowhawk. I would study that art for hours trying to emulate it back when I was drawing and holding big dreams of being a comic artist.
Is that Blade comic any good ? I have only read Blade's appearances in other books like Tomb of the Dracula and Midnight sons. I love the movies so a good solo Blade book would be cool.
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If you don't mind the suggestion, the series from the mid-2000's was pretty good.
Your mileage may vary, I've known some folks who don't care for Chaykins art, faces in particular.
Thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out. I liked his art in the Shadow comic that he did, though it was back in the 80s and his art has gone through changes since then.
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Marvel/DC? No. I really enjoyed reading Spawn comics back in 2010, up until he rebooted it.
Now does manga count? Because i got a tonne of manga i am reading as it becomes available. What i consider the best is probably the Skeleton that couldn't protect the dungeon. It's korean but it's top notch!
Otherwise I'm a S-rank monster but my owner thinks i'm a cat.
Harem in the Labyrinth of Another World; And Deathmarch to another world.
Jim Lee comes to mind as any 90s kid would probably say but I also like the classics like Buscema, Neal Adams and Art Adams, Perez. I really liked Mark Brooks for his work on Deadpool and Cable (one of my favourite comic runs, back when Deadpool was actually a character and not a meme). Romita Jr also started to grow on me with his blocky figures and weird faces- later on in the stack of stuff I'm taking photos of I think I have the majority of his early 2000s Amazing Spider-Man run with Straczynski writing.
Edit: just remembered a core "I want draw comic books" memory- my dad had some of the Marvel Savage Sword of Conan comics, and I remember become obsessed with the Barry Windsor Smith art (he took over for awhile after Buscema). I think it was the adaptation of Red Nails that I really liked, but I can't remember much of the comic itself.
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Never knew he did a Shadow series, I'll have to check it out. Never read the Shadow comics but I want to get into them- love the radio play obviously and the pulp novels.
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Frank Miller being the most prolific Daredevil writer I think is a guaranteed, given how much of his work with the character is still the de facto 'status quo'. I reread the of course legendary Born Again/Guardian Devil not that long ago, was just as good this time as it was the first time I read through it.
I believe it was issue #2, I did some digging last night to try and remember. They came out the gate adapting some of the best stories early on in Savage Sword, with The Frost Giants Daughter, Red Nails, Black Colossus and I think A Witch Is Born and Queen of the Black Coast were all within like 20 issues maybe.
I don't know what it is about the Green Goblin/the Osborne's in general that brings out weird pregnancy/sex stuff, but just take a look at the infamous Sins Past storyline- I don't know what Straczynski was thinking on that one, considering both the baffling continuity retcons and plot holes it raised and just the poor taste the whole thing had. Bizarre, it's always the Osborne's, man.
This ones just a reference to a point I made a few days ago in the thread, that's Harry Osborns wife, who's actually (willingly) pregnant with his *father's* kid. I don't know what it is about the Green Goblin that brings out the daytime talk show drama in writers, but damn.
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I had some more time to take some photos, so I guess it's another "let's look at Octopus's beat up comics collection".
First up I got the first issue of Deadpool's solo series, before this he was only a recurring enemy in X-Force for a few issues.
Issue zero of the Sensational Spider-Man series, pretty sure this was just a variant 3D cover of issue one called issue zero for some reason- I tried to get the 3d effect as best I could in there. I actually greatly enjoy Ben Reilly, both for his sick outfits (come on, the OG Scarlet Spider outfit and this Sensational suit are top tier) and I think outside of the infamous Clone Saga mismanagement and tomfoolery he was a good character idea.
The first appearance of Rogue in an X-Men comic, before this she was a one note villain appearance in maybe only two issues of Avengers. She's also essentially an entirely different character in this other than the exaggerated southern accent and the same powers, she looks like she's 40 and has a weird Wolverine-ish mohawk thing going on. It wasn't until much later that she was entirely retconned into being the Rogue we know now.
I have way more of these Romita Jr/Straczynski Spider-Man's, but these are the three coolest covers of what I had in my opinion. This was when the whole 'Spider Totem' thing started where Peter Parker was personifying some weird primal animal spirit thing to explain why he always fought animal themed villains. Weird, but pretty cool.
Loved collecting these indexing of characters issues, I have the whole alphabet covered for both Marvel (I'll show those off later, think they're at the bottom of their stack) and DC.
Motherfuckin' Darkhawk, man. Don't know why I loved this guy so much, he just looks rad. I can barely even remember much about his character, other than it being some alien suit thing he could summon by touching a crystal or something.
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All of these are awesome. But I have to ask as someone reading comics during that time, how was it following the clone saga as it was coming out? I have heard not so great things about it from people who were following. It would have to have been a vastly different experience than someone like me would have since we have the benefit of reading through it after it's been finished. Have you reread it since then?
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One of the many reasons why I wish Norman had stayed dead. Not liked much of what he has been part of since his return like the whole Dark avengers stuff. Much preferred him as someone whose impact was felt even after his death( Gwen's death, Hobgoblin, Harry's breakdown). Plus I also like Hobgoblin more.
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Yeah I figured having to follow 4-5 books for a character would be a hassle( same with Superman and Batman having multiple books during this time). I agree they should have let Ben take the mantle and let Peter retire in peace ( he could still have shown up from time to time). That's why I really like the Spider-girl comics since they give Peter a great ending of sorts, as a mentor to his daughter. Really like what they did with him there. Not sure about the goatee though.
Well I was around for it, but I was very young to clarify. It was probably the very early 2000s, when the Clone Saga was only a few years old, that I was old enough to get into and it (attempt) to understand it. Like @ATenderLad said, the biggest thing was just how many different Spider-Man books you had to be reading to get every detail since it was across every book at the time- you couldn't keep up. I was reading only Amazing Spider-Man and Web of Spider-Man, but then the whole 'Peter is the real clone' double fake out happened in Spectacular so I had no idea that even happened. The other biggest issue was that it was handled by many different writers as each book was different, and there came to be a lot of infighting and nonsense behind the scenes as it also became apparent that there was no plan for the story and they were making it up as they went. I think it's easily the most retconned story during its own run- the identify of the Spider-Man body in the smoke stack alone was changed I think 4 times, wild. Also, the marketing department was making story decisions since Marvel was really struggling at the time- just imagine that nonsense of being a writer in this when you're already being forced to comply to the complete chaos of the clone saga AND the marketing department is calling the shots. Allegedly it was the marketing departments decision to have Peter and MJ's newborn kidnapped near the very end of the Saga (while in story it was told to MJ that she miscarried- keep in mind the a big reason for the Clone Saga in the first place was they wanted to get back into less dark Spider-Man stories), only for this kid to literally never be mentioned ever again. If they had planned the whole thing out carefully, and if Tom DeFalco (the editor in chief for the whole thing) had actually maybe consulted the other writers at the time, and if the marketing department was not making important story decisions, who knows maybe the Clone Saga could have been fine.
Thank you for coming to my Clone Saga rant.
His weird black onesie jumpsuit was so strange, allegedly it was because they got too many complaints from concerned parents on why there's a half naked furry animal man in their kids Spider-Man comic so they just started giving him the onesie without explanation. I think one of the biggest casualties of the Clone Saga fallout, other than Spider-Man sales, was the Jackal- I think he's just forever associated with the event now and he's so rarely ever used anymore because of it.
The length of the story really affected it as it seems to have dragged on. Did you read the six issue miniseries they released that presented the clone saga as it was originally intended to be. It really benefitted from the shorter length.
I haven't read it, I'll check out- it'll be interesting to see what the intended product would have been.
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So I was reading some more books last night, decided to start Batman and Robin Eternal, a series from 2015 that ran a couple years. It's not bad, but boy howdy I wonder how this stuff goes down for people who aren't immersed in this crap.
Just off hand, someone picking up Batman and Robin Eternal needs to know that Batman is now a GCPD mech suit being piloted by Jim Gordan, Bruce Wayne is a civilian with no memory of his vigilante life, Dick Grayson seemingly died in an event called Forever Evil but actually uses that as a cover for his new career as a secret agent, Jason Todd's *whole deal*.
Then there's the stuff returning or casual readers might not know, like Tim Drakes entire 90/00's career maybe not happening in the wake of Flashpoint (notably his dads fine), Spoiler and Cassandra Cain are completely rebooted, starting over. Also, Barbara Gordon is ambulatory again, no wheelchair, and has resumed as Batgirl.
Then there's just the crossover from a half dozen books from the Batman line, like Batman, Detective Comics, Grayson, Batman and Robin, We Are Robin, Gotham Academy, Batgirl. They don't all have overlapping plot with Eternal, but the changes to characters from each are reflected. (Mostly Grayson, as Dick is the main POV character.)
Even I had to stop and refresh my memory on who Bluebird was, I hadn't read Snyder's Batman in a minute.
Might be why graphic novel sales aren't inspiring, it's a fair bit difficult to follow a given character or story. Not a new problem, but something I was thinking about.
Just off hand, someone picking up Batman and Robin Eternal needs to know that Batman is now a GCPD mech suit being piloted by Jim Gordan, Bruce Wayne is a civilian with no memory of his vigilante life, Dick Grayson seemingly died in an event called Forever Evil but actually uses that as a cover for his new career as a secret agent, Jason Todd's *whole deal*.
Then there's the stuff returning or casual readers might not know, like Tim Drakes entire 90/00's career maybe not happening in the wake of Flashpoint (notably his dads fine), Spoiler and Cassandra Cain are completely rebooted, starting over. Also, Barbara Gordon is ambulatory again, no wheelchair, and has resumed as Batgirl.
Then there's just the crossover from a half dozen books from the Batman line, like Batman, Detective Comics, Grayson, Batman and Robin, We Are Robin, Gotham Academy, Batgirl. They don't all have overlapping plot with Eternal, but the changes to characters from each are reflected. (Mostly Grayson, as Dick is the main POV character.)
Even I had to stop and refresh my memory on who Bluebird was, I hadn't read Snyder's Batman in a minute.
Might be why graphic novel sales aren't inspiring, it's a fair bit difficult to follow a given character or story. Not a new problem, but something I was thinking about.
The eternal issue of ongoing episodic comics. It's why I usually stick to standalone graphic novels or tradebacks of specific arcs in runs, I can pretend that the continuity is in a vacuum easier and just enjoy the story by itself more (hopefully); some are easier than other of course. One of my favourite Batman stories is Hush which was a run in the regular Batman series, but it isn't doesn't have many specific continuity connections so you can read it without really being left in the dark.
On another note, I'm thinking of reading Kingdom Come for the first time after the 6 issue Clone Saga miniseries- I have plenty of knowledge of Alex Ross's art specifically in the story, but I've never actually read it. Anyone recommend it, or have some thoughts?
Oh my god, you people have a LOT of comics! Here’s my current collection, for what it’s worth:
Sorry if it looks like a messy pile of shit, I’m still getting stuff cleaned up from the move. The only thing not shown here is a mint condition copy of Netflix’s Cowboy Bebop #1, which was terrible, but I’m hoping will be worth something someday. This should provide a pretty good idea of my tastes and preferences vis a vis the sequential art form.
Sorry if it looks like a messy pile of shit, I’m still getting stuff cleaned up from the move. The only thing not shown here is a mint condition copy of Netflix’s Cowboy Bebop #1, which was terrible, but I’m hoping will be worth something someday. This should provide a pretty good idea of my tastes and preferences vis a vis the sequential art form.
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What is that one Tezuka manga?
They are:
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Oh god, I had entirely forgotten about the Netflix show. Vicious literally ends up handcuffed to a radiator in a basement, you can't make that up.
Also, love the xxxHolic omnibus. I actually collected the manga too along with a few others (was never a really big manga/anime guy) almost entirely because of the art.
Only the new Ultimate Spider-Man ATM, though I've heard good things about the Ultimates
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