I like how you call sonic fans grifters when Sonic team just released a comic that is very anti-ai
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Don't confuse a creator's message with what the company that owns the rights does. Sega's CEO is working alongside nvidia's CEO, the biggest force in AI right now, and corporations aren't humanitarian organizations. Nothing is black and white.
To make art is to usually "steal"/be inspired... AI can be good if utilized correctly just most AI art is AI slop.
hey so ....some context
First of all I commend you for being an artist as it seems like a rough life.
no its not, ai is not a tool for artists
True Ai itself won't put artists out of work since Human made art is always valued since its not only the quality of a art piece people value but also the time put into it.
*looks at channel*
An Artist shouldn't be judged by how much content they can make. I'd rather have 1 good piece of human made artwork than 10 shitty pieces of AI Slop. I don't care how many times you say "AI is inevitable". I and plenty of others are still gonna hate this snake oil
Capitalism says otherwise, they will always go for the cheapest and quickest way to make stuff, even if it results in utter trash. Artists will be tossed aside and will be unable to continue on their passion due having no money or career to support themselves.
i already had all three of these weirdos on ignore, good to see that wasnt a mistake lol
Yeah I can see it, but it's a massive resource hog right now. At least for the language models since they're designed to be used by a lot of people. It's already affecting electricity bills and water reserves as it is. Locally I can see some use for it for archiving or sorting.
That would depend if the companies or publishers would even be willing to be transparent about the use of a language model in the first place. Maybe in like open source projects as placeholders, i dunno. I'm still not comfortable treating a generated "product" as the final result.
yeah this thread is a minefield XD
Yeah... social media does weird things to people.
Honestly this would be amazing! Would be cool to have a site that specifically puts whether or not a language model was used in a game!
man I really hope you're right about that XD
It can be fun to mess around with a local model! Stuff like AI dungeon was fun to mess around with for a bit back then. The real issue is that it's being put everywhere and forced into places it shouldn't be. Hell the data centers cropping up are in part because of the resources a language model needs at a large scale. Training one is also quite a resource sink too.
yeah, the games look alright but something about them looks off to me. It's like the online skate game there's like no style to it and that's half the game's appeal (well the style it's going for is very watered down at the very least) XD
Thanks for proving my point mate.
These people can't have a normal debate that's why the all retreat to echo chambers like bluesky, reddit or resetera. If someone counters their arguments they fold immediately as you can see, quite sad.
That's for the market to decide, like everything else in this economic system. Artists aren't special snowflakes immune to supply and demand.
Without Echo chambers some fanatic Ideologies could not survive wihthout constant yes man.
Actually, we are. Supply and demand belong to the sphere of necessity, they are means rather than ends. Are we merely feeding and clothing a species that exists for no other reason than to hunger and shiver?
Now I'm interested in the kind of art master pieces you make. Please do share some of your art.Actually, we are. Supply and demand belong to the sphere of necessity, they are means rather than ends. Are we merely feeding and clothing a species that exists for no other reason than to hunger and shiver?
Supposing the species was a ship, do we ask the passengers or even the engineers to explain the route? No, we look to the captain. And when our hypothetical ship is planet sized, and the infinite blackness of space is our ocean, perhaps even the captain is groping through the dark.
Artists and philosophers are the captains of the human ship, we are the organic priesthood of humanity, we are the sensory organs of the species. Humanity comes to understand itself through us, and through no other means. Even science can only elucidate the means, not the ends, Aristotle demonstrated this in his Nicomachean Ethics.
So you have it backwards if you imagine artists must satisfy the public, we are not here to entertain or sooth you, we are here to instruct you. Learn from us or perish, the choice is rather simple, and we don't really care if you choose the latter.
In regards to AI, we are glad it ruins the lesser aspect of art (mere decorative clowning). We hope AI will drive more artists to the conclusion we have arrived at, that we were born to lead humanity, not to subsist on its charity.
Thus spoke Amalia
So you can sneer at it? We are very sensitive about our art, one wrong blink and we cry. Artists are by nature sensitive, we are not ashamed to be afraid of your crude appraisal, we wouldn't subject ourselves to such discomfort.
