2025 Nintendo = Greed

It would be perhaps a fair whataboutery/comparison for their latest console. But this is not about Switch 2. They are raising the prices of Switch 1 games. And it comes on the top of the fact that this company (specially least now, with this anti-gamer accountant CEO) never, or rarely, put anything on sale. So this makes the comparison being even more skewed, because there are many and frequent discounts on microsoft and sony products...
Well, they are not rising prices of Switch 1 games but console and accessories.


So the comparison is justified. Sony and Microsoft also raised the prices of consoles and accessories that are several years old...
 
The problem is, many people around the world are paying for it. Nintendo knows that, so we're not forced to buy their stuff.
 
This isn't tariffs. Nintendo was making bank on those Joycon controllers at the already insane price of $95. They're cheaply made controllers prone to stick drift. This is just corporate greed using tariffs as cover.
 
Well, they are not rising prices of Switch 1 games but console and accessories.


So the comparison is justified. Sony and Microsoft also raised the prices of consoles and accessories that are several years old...
It doesn't change a thing and it's not because of "greed". It's because of what "rule 3" situation regarding America.

The price of an item increased due to "rule 3" which naturally has an effect for the price change for the item for good. It doesn't change a thing if the item was imported to the country long time ago, the item as a stock will have to be replenished for new retail price due to rule 3 therefore cannot have any "effective" way to make places able to easily differentiate between when items are imported to the country. You can but it will cause a complex mess of bureaucracy and lots of BS had to be done which basically "no one would care" so to ease the process just change the price of the item to new one and sell everything, despite when they are important, for the same new adjusted price.

When a situation caused by America, blaming Nintendo really doesn't make sense at all. Think of the greed America has then lolol. Dude I'm Sega fan boi who really dislikes Nintendo, but it doesn't mean I can go against the truth. Nothing can beat the truth lol.

What kind of "greed" to mention about Nintendo in this context is they use this situation to their advantage but it's not an empty excuse, their business is risked a lot. In the end Nintendo may see a better profit reality by not importing anything to America but enforcing special shipping service that will increase the cost of getting Nintendo products from then on. If rule 3 aspect of America continues it gets easy for international companies to bail out America -> America's currency losing value -> basically people start to ignore America -> "oh the internet cable from America is damaged? nah who cares about America" -> America turns into a country that lost connection to rest of the world -> American economy collapses -> people twerk for 1 more dollar in The Great Depression 2 society -> lolol.

In the end no company should care about Americans. If it's not profitable, Nintendo doesn't have to care Americans using their products. They have XBOX anyway, innit? ::winkfelix

If Americans have a problem they should directly address it to the "rule 3" House lolol. As for Non-Americans, they gotta find their own ways for reducing prices by helping out companies. If "rule 3" gets greedy naturally people will have to spend a lot for everything.
 
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The USA purchases the most imports out of any other country, so the idea of, "just ignore America", while sounding nice, doesn't make much sense.
 
The USA purchases the most imports out of any other country, so the idea of, "just ignore America", while sounding nice, doesn't make much sense.
It's a "was" statement so we cannot expect the same for the future due to "rule 3" situation lol.

I would rather completely ignore America and focus on China and Europe instead. Make whichever country benefits me by destroying economical benefit America had to make the whole market convenient for me. After all, even over a long time China is still the best country to make business lolol.

Increased prices make the risk of "IDK if Americans would wanna buy my products anymore" and even "IDK they can't even afford eggs so I don't expect them to be able to afford my products anyore!!!!" lol so not to risk it I would ignore America altogether. America was okay they were ok for business, not anymore lolol. War is in the air it's hobby for America, they proved they suck at business anymore lol.

Business-wise after The Great Depression America did whatever they could to strengthen their economy, this was why the world made America a playground for business. Things were ok, not anymore. It makes sense to ignore America but invest in China anymore. Buckle up, Kansas is no more!!! I hope you are learning Chinese!!! lolol
 
Sure, greed’s part of it. They could have taken a hit on the Trump tax for their old hardware in exchange for fan goodwill. But greed is an expected behavior of Nintendo. They’re not going to do that because they don’t need that little burst of goodwill. Their new product is selling gangbusters, so if they’re going to sabotage anything to keep the line from going down, it’s going to be the hardware that’s already spent eight years selling gangbusters.

But don’t pretend this is exclusively greed. It’s a direct response to the Trump tax. You can cry no politics all you want but this is an inherently political issue. You may want nothing to do with politics, but politics wants everything to do with you.
 
Sure, greed’s part of it. They could have taken a hit on the Trump tax for their old hardware in exchange for fan goodwill. But greed is an expected behavior of Nintendo. They’re not going to do that because they don’t need that little burst of goodwill. Their new product is selling gangbusters, so if they’re going to sabotage anything to keep the line from going down, it’s going to be the hardware that’s already spent eight years selling gangbusters.

But don’t pretend this is exclusively greed. It’s a direct response to the Trump tax. You can cry no politics all you want but this is an inherently political issue. You may want nothing to do with politics, but politics wants everything to do with you.
Tell that to rule 3 here lol.

It's easy to hate Nintendo for "greed" justification, but if I had complete control over Nintendo I would do the same. Why?: I will take it as an insult that American society "deserves it" like the "you reap what you sow" situation that's about pride and teaching a lesson. If they dislike what happens to them then they should fix it on their own. It's not Nintendo's concern nor their issue.

Still if Nintendo deserves being called "greedy" over it then gotta blame America for greed instead or too because this is literally why they do it from the start lol.
 
On that note, we Americans have been eating good on video game prices compared to most of the rest of the world for decades now. Maybe we ought to have a taste of what everyone else deals with.
 
Nintendo, like many corporations in the modern day, has forgotten the importance of serving the customer. Shareholders wave a lot of money around but ultimately they cannot provide any real value and are also fickle and will eventually take their money elsewhere. I think Nintendo has gotten by with the power of their brand but they'll eventually run out of steam with consistent bad decisions eventually leading to a stock crash like we've seen with so many other big names in videogames. When that happens, Nintendo will have to either change course or get eaten up. I believe Nintendo's widely reported importance to the Japanese economy prevents the second outcome, but we'll see what the situation really is for the near future when the fiscal year comes to an end.

Corporations raising prices is mostly an opportunistic issue. They're raising prices because they can, and using major talking points spread around the media to cover for it. The reason why I believe that the price increase is not related to concrete issues like tariffs creating supply chain issues is because we didn't see the same price increases in consoles when the global supply chain was dealing with the semiconductor shortage in 2023-2024, and I believe that was because the average consumer was not aware of the nuances of the supply chain issues and would blame the suppliers, in this case the big three consolemakers (At that time, they responded by providing fewer consoles than by raising prices.) This time, however, the issue is very publicized and they are taking advantage of the headlines to cover for their business decisions, which for Nintendo as we have seen is to prioritize profits over providing value to the customer.

Furthermore, console makers have an incentive to sell consoles at a loss because they recoup costs by having players in their "environment," buying their games and subscribing to their services. Nintendo has no real reason to raise prices, they simply want to and believe that you are willing to pay for it. I think that in this case, Nintendo also wants to make the Switch 2 look like a better value by closing the price gap between the consoles.

Anyways, whatever your reason, I think its wild that some people take it on themselves to defend the honor of big corpo.
 
Yeah, nobody should be defending them on this. Corporate short-sightedness and greed and turning every product and service most people use steadily worse and more expensive. But this particular price hike has a direct cause.

Most of the rest of what they’ve been doing for years now is just garden variety enshittification though.
 
On that note, we Americans have been eating good on video game prices compared to most of the rest of the world for decades now. Maybe we ought to have a taste of what everyone else deals with.
Currently to preorder games the price I have to pay is equal to my 2 year worthy cost of bills!!! lolol

Now, when Americans hears it they think "awww sucks to be you because your economy is poor", however currency conversion and currency value over other currencies nothing to do with local economy of a country. Common misunderstanding is currency exist for "fair balance of economies between countries" but it has no such purpose too. I can easily afford whatever I want that's not imported to my country by buying local stuff. The issue is how expensive imported products are and international companies are like "me selling my shitty smartphone for a gold mine, I hope you'll buy it" but no one does when we have local smartphones at home that naturally cheap AF for us. Apple you suck lol.

Simply put currency topic just means no one wanna use American dollar to buy money of my local currency therefore things are no different than simple trade logic of "to get money the market value is X amount of money for 1 money" logic like people exchanging their stones. X country have to pay 5 stone to buy 1 stone of Y country lol.

However new American Nightmare problem is not about currency conversion but taxes and stuff. It means it costs more to import the product to the greedy country therefore to cover this cost you gotta increase the prices.

So price is not simply about manufacturing cost + "let's add my greed to the equation" thing. It does cost to transport the products and paying tons of money for many things about it. This is a 1 big reason why better forget America exist to make business lol.

And then in video game context it takes extra cost to translate the game and adjust the game so Karens won't complain, so this is added to the price too. If you want censor then it means extra budget and development time so you gotta pay for it. There is no such thing as "I demand X so you'll give me Y", ask kindly and pay the price for it lol.

So what likely future of America is?: Economy hack is to drop value of American dollar to increase gold prices to make more money from gold. When America make people shy out to make business in American context it will mean people won't need a reason to buy American dollar -> value of American dollar will decrease then I can buy video games on Steam cheaply lolol.

Then what will happen?: I will start to buy tons of places in America and use them for my evil purpose. Making half of New York sold to people from Dubai and Indians or something is what happens when you lose your economical power lolol.
 
Spot of hope on this though — piracy and fangame culture is always strongest when and where purchasing is at its most costly and inconvenient and at its least available.

People step in when corporations muck things up.
 
Anyways, whatever your reason, I think its wild that some people take it on themselves to defend the honor of big corpo.
As a Sega fan boi I'll always dislike Nintendo but if Nintendo is against America then it's like "enemy of my enemy is my ally" lolol.

America has to be taught a lesson for the greater good because their existence is a nonsensical hindrance to the world. In the end you will either rotate with the world or they will stop your existence.

I don't choose side in this topic but my sense of the truth, yet anyone who dislikes and list justification for why Nintendo is "bad" about this topic really seem to either just wanna hate Nintendo which I always make fun of Nintendo in every chance I get lol, or they have no idea what actually happens or they are too proud to be American or they are so Americanized to have sexual fetish over the concept of "America" which Sigmund Freud intensifies here lol. So from an outsider POV, what I see is Nintendo is a company so I accept their fundamental greed because that's how big companies are. That's only natural. Otherwise it's like being Captain Obvious and saying "damn thieves gone too far!!1 they are so criminal!! They used to only steal from rich people!!!" the hell lol.

I do understand the idea of companies "used to care about customers" but in reality they were just a pussy then which was a fake social mask they had. They just realized when it comes to luxury item there are people who will buy it no matter what. People kinda got used to focusing on their wish by ignoring what kind of BS they have to do and be okay to get it, otherwise it would get harder to be a citizen of any country. People just suck it up and try to make a living. Another thing is let's say your generation finds a reason to hate Nintendo so they just forget about Nintendo exist, and then a new generation comes who knows nothing about Nintendo so they buy Nintendo stuff. That's the way it's and what companies relies on. Scam generations to milk them dry and then they will always have fresh supply of sucker to suck lol. I mean just stop and think like you own Nintendo: Would you really care about putting happy smile of people's face buying your provide by providing it? Business is something that you can only make money when you can and there is no garantue you can make money. In video game company POV whole process of development -> selling game feels like you trying to play baseball that has like 5 to 10 years input delay so you have to predict where ball will come to hit it in particular way and then wait for years for that ball to come and watch if you made a good decision or not because you have no "control" to change the input of how your guy will hit the ball after the decision is made. This situation make companies very desperate to make money when you found the cow the suck lol. Naturally this is why greed is to be expected from companies, especially bigger ones because as you get big your fall hits harder!! lolol

In the end I do not expect any company to treat people nicely because it would be naive. When I walk around wild west I ready my gun and expect everyone to shoot me. I don't think "I came from Germany and how nice it was that no one cared to shoot me, partner", I accept the situation and deal with it. In that context it's like watching a street fight here. While I think Nintendo is annoying, America is more annoying so from objective POV America really deserved it lolol.
 
Nintendo consoles tend to be released as "same thing but 2 versions" in a row so naturally Switch 2 is the 2nd version of the same console. Gotta think if Nintendo don't do anything creative anymore after Switch 2 when Switch itself is very creative due to its hybrid console nature. Still it's better than what Sony does by spamming tons of different versions of same console lol. Gotta blame Sony for not releasing a decent console since PS2 instead... well technically PS Vita was the last "creative" approach but they wasted the whole potential of it.
Yes, I agree, but still this is the first time they did the least changes I think or maybe I'm wrong ? even in the name for NES they still added a "SUPER" which was fire but only adding a simple "2" at the end of the Switch broke my heart. 🥀 jk, still the changes were not as vast as some of the older consoles, like when Wii U came out other than focusing on advancing the Frutiger-aero aesthetics and the overall UI there was a new handheld added and how that handheld worked relatively with the console was a pretty cool new touch or the whole 3D idea of the 3DS from DS and also adding the analog and stuff felt kinda... maybe more compared to the situation right now ? or maybe that just like how I feel and it isn't true since the controllers have like changed on Switch 2 too, and don't get me wrong I like Switch it's not that I dislike the console, I would buy it for sure if I get a chance.
This is still left on PC Master Race™ preference actually. Console gamers loves low quality lolol. I mean me meself playing me consoles in their original intended low quality ways because they look "better" lol. For example PS2 games on CRT TV beats 4K modern screen setup for me!!!! lol

But then why Nintendo cares about 4K now? They realized people buy their console and game but prefer to play on their PC for 4K + higher FPS. Nintendo, and in general Japanese video game companies relatively only recently realized what is the deal of PC gaming and why people think it's better. That's why to attract PC gamers, that actually "high quality gamers" they took a necessary choice they had to make alongside with every console company like a decade ago lol.
yes I get that there's a charm in everything not being so detailed all the time, me too think that PS2 looks the best and is intended to be played on CRT forever, also with it's own controller, nothing beats the original experience. on the other hand though, modern online competitive games and things alike are a big factor in making this over-upgrading trend while unnecessary imo, they have a big player-base and they don't really care about the artistic values of games and don't have a deep look into these stuff so when they buy a console they expect what they had before I guess and don't look through it as a whole different concept.

the fact that companies like Nintendo are also moving this way however concerns me, are they going to forbid the unique, creative things they were known for to appeal to satisfy the audience and keep it safe forever and just be happy with a resolution and framerate upgrade? I hope not.

they are a program version of primitive biological wish stimulators lol.
lol
So when Nintendo had die out we could finally play portable games via better ways because then Sony and Xbox would take the risk in portable market. Nintendo's existence in portable gaming industry is like a damn rock blocking whatever good can happen. Kinda gotta blame why Sony decided to make PS Vita reduced to visual novel and 2D rubbish game console because they had no other way to make a difference against Nintendo's portable consoles. And existence of Switch made Microsoft gave up on portable XBOX console. Possibly lots of potential legendary games are missed out just because Nintendo dominates that market with its low quality ancient childish rubbishes lolol.
personally, I like the old-school gaming ngl, using physical discs/cartridges and the toy-like and colorful designs are fascinating for me. yet I'm not sure about Microsoft and Sony, based on what I am seeing if they dominate the the handheld instead of the Nintendo there's a high chance that they also formulate the handheld consoles into one very specific one that they call "Perfect machine" and continue to only upgrade the hardware by generation, what pushed Sony to made PSP, and also PS Vita good looking machines was the intense competition with Nintendo too I think, Vita sadly didn't made it far and not so many games released on it but I say the console had the potential. also we do have the Steam Deck, right ? I haven't ever used one but they look very good and people are saying great stuff about them, do you think Valve can compete Nintendo ?

In the end I don't care about preserving how video gaming was like. I have no sense for nostalgia and I don't want new games and consoles intentionally developed in ancient way. I will always ask for improvement to be in the future, not stay in the past.

What will save video game industry is destruction of Sony and Nintendo and Sega releasing video game consoles again. Sega is love, Sega is life!!! Gotta thank Sega for actually making video game industry about video games, otherwise industry would die in NES era because games were that shit lolol. Without SEGA video gaming would be very short temporary "trend" that would quickly die out because things were so generic but Sega changed it!!! Console wars between Sega and Nintendo made Nintendo release console and games that people enjoy just because they learned from Sega!!!! Go to nearest shrine and always pray and thank that if you enjoy video games now it's because of Sega!!! "Sega fan boi level over 9000 lolol*
nostalgia in a sense that it means living in the past and being sad about it thinking today life is worthless, yes that is very harmful for the mental well-being too.
regardless there's another concept of getting influenced by the things we had in the past. because we realized that the potential haven't fully been used and things might have gone wrong is very beneficial too imo. for example, 20st century painters and artists got tired of the realism surrounding everywhere so they looked back at primitive art to get influenced or some went out of their way and break the conventional formulas and methods, thus entered the modern era and favored moving forward too.

about Sega I can't agree more, without Sega things would be very different in gaming, a damn shame Sega got bankrupt in the console making. so much love for Sega.
 
Yes, I agree, but still this is the first time they did the least changes I think or maybe I'm wrong ? even in the name for NES ... would buy it for sure if I get a chance.
You are right but this is also about a way Nintendo actually used a sense of "big deal change" just to make customers believe it would be worth buying these consoles which Nintendo had to do for the handheld console market because Sony was almost killing them lolol.

In the end Switch 1 and Switch 2 have a significant performance difference just like NES-SNES and N64-Gamecube which is what matters in a home video game console. I mean if it was handheld you had more room for innovation because device itself is how you play a game but a home video game console has many stuff that you combine with your TV. So it makes "screen" topic simpler therefore Nintendo offered a way to be able to play it even without TV. In that context Switch 2 significantly has an improved screen.

But when you think about it Nintendo consoles itself didn't experience much "innovation" until NDS. NDS had trivial dual screen that I never cared about and I do think it's a bad way to play games but its touch screen allowed cool ideas like drawing magic to cast it in Ni no Kuni to immerse yourself as a wizard!!! And then we have 3DS that its 3D stuff is trivial for me. When it comes to Wii, honestly motion gamepad ideas were a thing way before which Nintendo and Sega did it before but this idea never had significant game idea to have fun with until Wii era. Wii did its thing that was fun in its own context like personally I like playing Trauma Team (I can perform any surgery know, just give me a Wii stick lolol) but when you think about it's no big deal thing. I especially disliked that you had to use 2nd screen in Wii U for some aspect of games. In the end Wii U was beta test for Switch 1 lol.

People may think "Switch 1 is same shit as Wii U" but in reality it's not because Wii U couldn't use its potential properly and it was annoying but they fixed everything about it and made the core hybrid console idea properly.

In the end gotta judge Nintendo consoles in their own "family" so Switch 1-2 introduced what they could ever do. Nintendo may failed sometimes but they know how to improve their idea.

So clear innovation in Switch 2 is despite how it suck hard in the context of it's barely better than PlayStation 4 so it's a console belong to previous gen consoles, yet in the context of Nintendo it's the only console tried to keep up with PC gaming quality thanks to 4K and 60 FPS lol. I mean since Nintendo always sucked hard it has its own "level" that we gotta congratulate them for trying to keep up with video game industry that they are like 5 years late!!!! It's like watching a turtle trying to beat a bunny!!! lolol
yes I get that there's a charm in everything not being so detailed all the time, me too think that PS2 looks the best and is ... through it as a whole different concept.
Mhm. This is why video game industry ignores developing a game anymore, they just develop a program that non-gamers want because they realized most people are non-gamers and it's easier to satisfy non-gamers because developing a decent game takes too much time and budget for them lol. This is why gacha BS and Netflix-like games are popular. People wanna drop some digital girl character by paying tons of real money and just because they like watching Netflix they also wanna play a "game" that will make them watch a lot and they just do little chores and trivial stuff like walking and interacting with objects in between cutscenes lol.
the fact that companies like Nintendo are also moving this way however concerns me, are they going to forbid the unique, creative things they were known for to appeal to satisfy the audience and keep it safe forever and just be happy with a resolution and framerate upgrade? I hope not.
Honestly they still produce a video game as if they were developing a game on NES. I mean their games are copy-paste with little something that adds to the table. It's just they realized if their rubbish copy-paste games won't have higher graphics people don't wanna play them lol.
personally, I like the old-school gaming ngl, using physical discs/cartridges and the toy-like and colorful designs are ... think Valve can compete Nintendo ?
When Valve released Steam Deck they started to compete against Sony and Nintendo and they were lost lol. Steam Deck can even run Switch 1 games via emulation which made people buy Steam Deck and avoid buying Switch 1 just because Steam Deck offered better resolution and FPS which is why Switch 2 fixed this problem.

So currently Valve cannot compete with Nintendo unless they release a better Steam Deck 2.

As for Sony, they wanted to destroy Nintendo with PSP but they ended up making handlehand industry "ok" to people because Nintendo was seen as "that toy company that little kids play rubbish games on the go" but PSP made things serious like "dude it's like I can play PS2 games in my hands!!!" and it was a big deal. So people were like "then dude is Nintendo games actually good????" and it kinda helped NDS sells lol.

Why Sony failed to take down Nintendo is because of the mistake Sega did. Both Sony and Sega introduced their difference as in target audiance that "Nintendo is for little kids" but they were like "we are for non-little kids" which made them not a complete rival but "partners". Sony and Sega had to be also for little kids to destroy Nintendo.

In the end why Nintendo still exist is just because no other company properly steals the thunder of Nintendo's low quality rubbish childish games lol. In the context no company compete with Nintendo. It's more like Nintendo does their own thing by using their cults to always float. So as long as they produce this rubbish they will be fine because they have the culture people like and it satisfies basic needs of people. On the other hand Sony and Xbox doesn't have a culture and has no understanding of satisfying basic needs of people. Nintendo owns many game ideas that they over use a lot because it's all they have and it's what people like. But Xbox and Sony, for some reason, loves to kill their game ideas that naturally kills their culture and thus fan base. As a result they made themselves empty and honestly they just became a tool to play games when Nintendo itself is its own "entertaintment world" which is what a video game console has to do to sell.

So Sega could release a new console again and they would be a hit as long as they spam Sonic, Yakuza, Persona, Outrun, Hang-On, Shinobi, Streets of Rage and many more. But Sega dominates arcade industry instead and left video game console industry until one of these companies makes a mistake so Sega can take over lolol.

However real danger for these companies is how people wanna play games on their smartphone. So relatively home video game consoles and handlehand video game consoles becoming an "ancient shit" new generation kids wouldn't wanna own because it's better for them to play games on smartphone. Then if Nintendo, Sony and XBOX has to survive in video game industry they will have to come up with smartphones that is also for gaming just like what Nokia did with N-Gage in cell phone industry lolol. So when XBOX owned by Microsoft we all know Microsoft will dominate this market eventually and Valve, Sony and Nintendo will just die out lolol. Microsoft would buy Steam to dominate PC gaming and via gamer smartphones they will put the last nail into the coffin for Japanese video game industry so they will either stop existing or float with their own gamer smartphones lol.
nostalgia in a sense that it means living in the past and being sad about it thinking today life is worthless, yes that is very ... favored moving forward too.
Well I like to look for future. Never stayed in past whatsoever. Back then things were cool and okay in the context of what was possible back then, but now I would prefer a cyber punk reality that I connect my brain into my computer and play games that run "in my mind" lolol. I guess I have opposite sense of nostalgia that having a longing for a future I never experienced lol.
 
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2025? Where you hiding under a rock?

Nintendo only got more blatantly greedy because of new management, but they have always been the worse in the treatment of their customers.

People forget how, back with the PS4/XOne generation, when all platforms where allowing players and YT channels to share their experience and create communities, Nintendo decided they wanted to get money from them, copystriking channels unless they joined their curated club, giving them money and being forced to censorship and other rules.

Nintendo was always shit, we used to not know this because we where kids, thats all.
 
Is betraying your most loyal demographic of consumers to target a wealthier class of families during these trying times really a betrayal? Don't we have other things to worry about? Considering how well Nintendo games tend to age, if I have to wait another generation before getting to play Metroid Prime 4, that's fine.
As a consumer sometimes you gotta be able to look at something and say "that's not for me"
I abandoned the act of following AAA gaming companies a long time ago, and for that people look at me like some kind of weirdo, i don't care at this point, greed and lazyness comes with age in every company, it's only now people can finally see it.
 
Nintendo is now the Apple of video games, it has no power or build quality.
Um, my iPhone can run Resident Evil 4 Remake and it's superbly built lol
 

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