What video game remake would you consider superior to the original?

Me neither. I still have Moon Dweller sitting on my PS4, yet I've played X & T 4 times, and I'm halfway through 30 (that's of course, because MD's translation is utter garbage however).
The ones I've played are the GBAs A- PSP, X and V. I'm planning on playing either 30 or Y at some point.
 
Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen and Resident Evil 1 (Remake) are the only cases where I actually prefer playing them over the originals (especially FireRed and LeafGreen, I really can't understand why anyone would play the original Game Boy versions of Red/Blue/Green nowadays instead of FireRed and LeafGreen)

Also Metroid Zero Mission, Metroid: Samus Returns/AM2R, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, NieR Replicant ver.1.22474487139, and Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver.
 
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While I can't think of any atm, isn't it funny how games that are already good keep getting remade? Remaking a bad game would be a bold move, but it would also make sense. ::thinking
 
Probably Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green — they made the FG games accessible to many people and fixed a crap ton of bugs and glitches while remaining (somewhat) faithful to the originals.
 
metroid zero mission because despite the original having it's charm, the shooting sucks

heartgold and soulsilver because they improve on the originals which were already great (full kanto, wonderful ds like music),

fire red was just the same game but with better graphics and more content, but at at least it was more enjoyable than the original gen 1, even though it's still mediocre

i could also name the square enix 3d remakes, but i only like ff iii and iv, things like the mana games are just there to fill the catalogue of digital remakes that was already overstuffed by 2016-18, the dragon quest monsters remakes on 3ds might be a better alternative than the originals, but not having things like the option to switch between the old and new music, optional voice acting to make the game more alive akin to dq viii really decent va perfomances, a concept art and music gallery (that it's there from the start and you unlock pictures, music and entries for the bestiary or whatever it's equivalent is in dq and not as general unlockable that has everything once unlocked), or in general: just being the same game but in 3d, with some improvements, yes, but ultimately they don't have the charm of the gbc originals.

if in remakes of games with a plot with a certain level of depth or potential, like re4, then i can see why the remake would be worth playing, it's actually infiuriating to me that mgs delta was more well received than re4 for a lot of people, re4 at least tries something interesting much like re2 and 3 remakes, unlike delta which is the exact fucking game from 21 years prior but with extremely small improvements, great graphics that surely eat quite a lot of storage, recycling animations from the original, and overall not being anything worthwhile, it was made so that konami could make more money out of mgs, and i'm not even a fan of those 2 franchises and even i can see the ill intent, especially not releasing mgs collection part 2 with fucking mgs iv, it's gonna be 20 years and it's still gonna be unavailable to play natively on pc.

still though, if they're gonna remake 0, code veronica and the original re and then remake 6 i would understand, since a new story approach more fitting to the modern re continuity wouldn't hurt and re 6 sucked despite a few good attributes, but re 5 is fine the way it is, people who say it's bad where mostly just people obssesed with re4, which is a good game but it's also flawed, specially on gc and ps2, that game didn't had a good version until the wii one in 2007, and on top of that you have to do some tricks to use the gamecube controller (at least on dolphin, don't know how it is on og hardware, there are some videos about it though)
 
@Viviana Santos
Are you mad at me for post #22 or do you just disagree? I would be hurt and insulted if it was the former. See mods, once again this unfortunate confusion could of been avoided with just one small icon

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For me it's Dead Space (2023). It just improves everything, such as giving Isaac actual dialogue, being able to find all the weapons instead of buying them (so you can experiment with them to see if you like them), not having to use Power Nodes to access rooms, being able to backtrack to open areas of the ship, and making the enemies more aggressive. It just feels like a major improvement over the original.
 
Resident Evil 4 and Silent Hill 2 are better than the originals imo

I know it’s hated a lot but I enjoyed the RE3 remake better than the original. Both are pretty close but the remake just slightly more for me.
 
Super Mario All-Stars, straight up. On top of being on the 16-bit SNES and taking full advantage of its video and audio capabilities, it also allows for saving and minor changing of the control scheme for the different controller. In strictest terms, it's simply a collection of enhanced ports of the original 8-bit games, but I think that having the ability to save and change controls years before emulation introduced such features (and years furher back still before it was embraced by the industry as standard for rereleasing classic games commerciall) carries it a far ways for accessibility's sake.

A(nother) less conventional answer I'll give is Crazy Taxi 3: High Roller. While the Las Vegas inspired Glitter Oasis is the primary focus for the main arcade modes, the fact that West Coast and Small Apple return from Crazy Taxi 1 and 2, respectively, utilizing the new gameplay features and enhancements (not to mention the better grahpics of the Xbox and Chihiro hardware), with the maps retooled and expanded upon to take advantage of said new features on top of that, just makes playing them on CT3 all the more preferable for me. The only thing I miss is having the full soundtracks from the first two games when playing their respective stages, but the Xbox and arcade versions still have key tracks from the original Dreamcast/Naomi releases. You can admittedly make similar arguments for playing West Coast on CT2 and Fare Wars, even if the latter will only play the original music if you have it on your PSP, but I think CT3's itteration of the classic West Coast map is the best one.

DuckTales: Remastered, despite its name. I know that some who grew up with the original had some comments about it, but I honestly think it's really good remake that plays nearly 1:1 as the original game while looking and sounding like the cartoon complete with performances of the original cast. It's a key example of not messing with the original formula while just adding to the presentation.

I feel similarly about the indie remake of Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap, but it has the benefit of not only being a perfect remake that doesn't mess with the formula only adding to the presentation. What I love about it is that it not only allows you to play with original sound and graphics, even mixing and matching elements of both, but you can even use the original Master System's save passwords on the remake.
 
Resident Evil 1, 2 and 4 Remake
Mafia definitive Edition
Ninja Gaiden
Final Fantasy 7 Remake
Tales of Phantasia X
Onechanbara Origins
 
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While I can't think of any atm, isn't it funny how games that are already good keep getting remade? Remaking a bad game would be a bold move, but it would also make sense. ::thinking
They had over 20 years to remake the angel of darkness and when the time finally arrived, they didn't even try, do you think they care? We're gonna get gta viii before a remake of duke nukem forever
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Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver >>>> Pokémon Gold and Silver
The original 2nd gen is already worth at least a few playthroughs though, especially with perfect crystal
 
  • Resident Evil 1-4 Remake
  • Oneechanbara Origin - A remake of the first two games combined into one
  • Ninja Warriors Again and Ninja Warriors Once Again (Ninja Saviors) even more so.
  • Crash Bandicoot N' Sane Trilogy
  • Double Dragon Advance & Double Dragon Gaiden
  • Strider (2014)
  • All of the Super Mario Remakes on GBA.
  • Guardian Heroes on XBLA.
 
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  • Resident Evil 1-4 Remake
  • Oneechanbara Origin - A remake of the first two games combined into 1
  • Ninja Warriors Again and Ninja Warriors Once Again (Ninja Saviors) even more so.
  • Crash Bandicoot N' Sane Trilogy
  • Double Dragon Advance & Double Dragon Gaiden
  • Strider (2014)
  • All of the Super Mario Remakes on GBA.
  • Guardian Heroes on XBLA.
I didn't know onechanbara origins was a remake ::omgdoom Considering how bad is the original, I have to add it to my list.
 
I didn't know onechanbara origins was a remake ::omgdoom Considering how bad is the original, I have to add it to my list.
Origin is a really good game and much more cohesive in narrative compared to the PS2 originals and event the games on 7th gen consoles. The gameplay is almost as polished as Z2 Chaos, though are slightly less move sets. Though it's given, due to their only being 3 playable characters, and universal parrying. Though addition of everyone being able to parry more than makes up for it.
 
I see sense of social awareness is lost on you young bro. no need to go further with that. And who the heck is talking about flaming with dozens of downvotes you toxic F***? As to a thumbs down, I respectfully disagree. Once you reach emotional maturity, you will realize there is a MAJOR
difference with disagreeing and being angry with someone. This aint YT, and I'm sorry
people like you were the ones that got dislike removed there. luckily some very talented coders have changed that on that platform. But I still Insist that IT IS counterproductive to indicate that I am angry with someone's Most likely valid option when I only may disagree and have an different way of seeing things. It just infers bad intent.

-If you still cant understand see post #25 for more info. Thank you
I didn't mean one single person downvoting someone badly. You can only vote once anyways. The issue with implementing a system like that is that people can be assholes and someone who thought they made a decent comment thinking someone might agree with them could instead get dozens of downvotes. It feels like the complete opposite of validation. So of course it feels bad when just wanting some people to chat and share opinions with but instead the downvote score just makes it look like everybody hates you. Some sites even have a feature where if a comment has enough downvotes then that comment is hidden and you have to click to unhide it or else it goes unnoticed. So that's even worse for making the person think their opinion doesn't mean shit on top of the score being low. So excuse me if I don't see a positive for that other than enabling people to be assholes to each other (which is definitely not a positive) The emoji of an angry Bonk as a reaction is more than efficient and probably even more efficient of a way of showing how you feel about a comment than a downvote.

You should have clarified what you meant earlier about Metroid. You said that one scene where you don't get to do anything since it's the end of the game made the game a billion times better than all the multitudes of improvements made by ZM. Which is just ridiculous and stupid. Yeah the reveal of Samus being a woman was epic and historic, but it doesn't actually do anything to affect the actual game. It really is in the vein of being blinded by nostalgia to think that game is better because of that reveal. That's why I said all that. The point of my comment was to say Zero Mission was a total improvement over Metroid which is totally is. Anyone who has played both games multiple times thoroughly (like I have) would most likely agree.

Also "young bro"? I'm a grown ass man who's almost 30, not some gen alpha teen who doesn't understand social nuances. That there is a "major difference" with being angry vs being disappointed is the reason why downvotes aren't needed. You just confirmed it yourself. As for YT I spend very little time on there at all. In fact I don't believe I've ever actually commented on a video. If you asked me to tell you some names of famous YouTubers I wouldn't really be able to name maybe but a few. I was referring to another forum that I sometimes frequent that has a comment score system in place and people are often assholes with it on there. My pfp is of a web series that was originally from YT but don't let that make you assume I'm a big fan of the platform, I'm glad it was added to Prime so I don't have to rely on YT. This was long, but I like to try to get my point across.

edit: actually I think I misread what you were suggesting. You meant having an emoji that is literally of a thumbs down be a reaction emoji. I actually agree with that. I thought you were talking about a score system like those other sites use. I didn't see the comment you had of that thumbs down pic until now since I had to click to reveal it. Whoops... ::sailor-embarrassed I still stand by what I said on comment scores and ZM.

I will talk with the mods and suggest the thumbs down idea. It's actually a better alternative than the one for "angry". I've honestly wondered why there's one for being angry anyways
 
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While I can't think of any atm, isn't it funny how games that are already good keep getting remade? Remaking a bad game would be a bold move, but it would also make sense. ::thinking


The good games already have a fanbase so companies know they can already make a profit off of it. Most of them have out of date graphics, game mechanics, etc. so I can understand why they want to polish it up and release it on current gen consoles, it’s an easy way to make money.

I don’t disagree that terrible games need remakes but if you heard Superman64 was getting a remake, would you really be that excited? But if you heard a popular game you love was getting remade you would probably be looking forward to that more lol
 
Black Mesa I think is mostly better than Half-life. However when it comes to Xen, I can't decide which one is worse. Half-life still stands as a great play because the Quake-like controls are fire, but Source is probably the best substitute for GldSrc in that regard.

Black Mesa is also the easiest game to bunnyhop in if anyone is interested, and see how fast you can go and how that kind of breaks level design.

The biggest thing BM does worse than its original is the soldiers being able to run and shoot at the same time, and still having killer hit scan damage.
 
edit: actually I think I misread what you were suggesting. You meant having an emoji that is literally of a thumbs down be a reaction emoji. I actually agree with that. I thought you were talking about a score system like those other sites use. I didn't see the comment you had of that thumbs down pic until now since I had to click to reveal it. Whoops... ::sailor-embarrassed I still stand by what I said on comment scores and ZM
I'm happy you put this at the end because as much as I respect the time you put into writing all that,
I sure as hell wasn't going to read all that.
NOW to the real business at hand:
sorry for the miscommunication, I'm happy you got it.
See now we are firends.
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And for my part, I totally agree with you about up/downvoting comments,
It would destroy the good thing we have going here (I couldn't think of a better
way to word that). And really just turn this forum into Reddit. and who the fuck in
their right mind would want that? We would have to deal with these guys all day...

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I swear this is literally the true identity of ANY woman that talks to me online :loldog
 
I'm happy you put this at the end because as much as I respect the time you put into writing all that,
I sure as hell wasn't going to read all that.
NOW to the real business at hand:
sorry for the miscommunication, I'm happy you got it.
See now we are firends.
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And for my part, I totally agree with you about up/downvoting comments,
It would destroy the good thing we have going here (I couldn't think of a better
way to word that). And really just turn this forum into Reddit. and who the fuck in
their right mind would want that? We would have to deal with these guys all day...

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I swear this is literally the true identity of ANY woman that talks to me online :loldog
Yeah, sorry bout the confusion and miscommunication bro. I probably shouldn't have went to sleep right after submitting that other comment. I would have seen the one where you suggested that thumbs down one right then instead of too late. Having to reveal it didn't help. Another reason why having the score thing on those sites cause comments to be hidden is a dumb idea. I talk a lot with the mod Rage Burner in DMs on Discord, I'll ask him and the other mods to see about adding that or a similar looking retro variant to the emoji reaction list for one for disagreement. We have ones for sad and angry but not just plain disagreement. The angry one can be triggering and the sad one is just confusing.
 
Black Mesa I think is mostly better than Half-life. However when it comes to Xen, I can't decide which one is worse. Half-life still stands as a great play because the Quake-like controls are fire, but Source is probably the best substitute for GldSrc in that regard.

Black Mesa is also the easiest game to bunnyhop in if anyone is interested, and see how fast you can go and how that kind of breaks level design.

The biggest thing BM does worse than its original is the soldiers being able to run and shoot at the same time, and still having killer hit scan damage.
Have you played HL Legacy? Basically 1998 HL w/ fixed bugs, BUNNYHOPPING, controller
support and a bunch of other shit. Its on steam Half-Life Legacy

Or... If you were like me and loved good old Barney Calhoun there is HL Blue shift legacy,
which got the same treatment. This one you need to know how to mod HL Blue Shift Legacy mod

OOORRR... If you really ,really like Blue Shift like I do, there is also Black Mesa Blue Shift

I can only hope they do the same for HL Opposing Force.

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