What are some unintentionally unlikeable game characters?

[Elwiwi]

When the party is discussing the refugees, Zeke flies off the handle ranting about how these poor people don't deserve the help they are getting from Indol because they are a bunch of lazy good-for-nothings. (The rest of the party acts as if they didn't hear that.) This is yet another moment of the game's writer being hypocritical and self-contradictory, as ① Zeke himself got help from Indol without doing anything to earn it (but he's rich, so the wealthy master race "earns" it) and ② there is no sign of the refugees being lazy or bad people at any point. In fact, as the refugees increase later, we still see nothing wrong with them. Zeke, of course, learns nothing from this, just like how the rest of the cast learns nothing from their misdeeds, as the half-a**ed writer didn't even bother to tie up major plot holes.

What I know of Rex from XC3 only makes him look worse. He didn't earn his ending after all the disrespect he showed for his 3 wives, and he and the rest of the cast don't seem to have learned from their experiences. Mythra stuck with the man who blamed her for sexual harassment and wnet along with slut shaming her. Nia stayed with the man who rejected her but took her in as a 3rd wive at the last minute for no explained reason. Tora still hasn't been sent to the neighborhood where you have to great people with "according to Megan's law." Azurda's misogynistic a** still hasn't died like God literally intended him to. Only Morag shows any improvement, as she at least ditched the crypto-Nazi uniform. And yet Rex seems okay with all this.

I get that it would take a lot for the writers to undo all the mistakes they made in XC2 in a sequel, but they didn't seem to put any really effort into it.

Granted, I'm basing this all on the little info anyone has given me, as I'm not going to invest serious effort into playing XC3 when the spectre of XC2's bad writing hangs over it and nobody is clarifying for me anything more about the connections to XC2 beyond that dumb, borderline Branch Davidian-esque picture.

The only thing that "fix " rex a little bit was the ending of 2 ,but they even mess that up

 

[Jeanfranc]

When the party is discussing the refugees, Zeke flies off the handle ranting about how these poor people don't deserve the help they are getting from Indol because they are a bunch of lazy good-for-nothings. (The rest of the party acts as if they didn't hear that.) This is yet another moment of the game's writer being hypocritical and self-contradictory, as ① Zeke himself got help from Indol without doing anything to earn it (but he's rich, so the wealthy master race "earns" it) and ② there is no sign of the refugees being lazy or bad people at any point. In fact, as the refugees increase later, we still see nothing wrong with them. Zeke, of course, learns nothing from this, just like how the rest of the cast learns nothing from their misdeeds, as the half-a**ed writer didn't even bother to tie up major plot holes.

Don't really remember any of this but sure

Only Morag shows any improvement, as she at least ditched the crypto-Nazi uniform.

Sadly yes, she looked way hotter in uniform

Granted, I'm basing this all on the little info anyone has given me, as I'm not going to invest serious effort into playing XC3 when the spectre of XC2's bad writing hangs over it and nobody is clarifying for me anything more about the connections to XC2 beyond that dumb, borderline Branch Davidian-esque picture.

Because that's basically it, Xenoblade 3 is hardly a traditional "sequel" to the first two, the only callbacks to the prior games are in the ending (basically two scenes) and two minor characters. Most of the connection comes form the world's lore (which again is explained near the end).
I'd say anyone can play 3 and enjoy it regardless of whether they liked the first two or even if they didn't play them at all.
Also the writing (and voice acting thank God) is much more similar to 1, which can a bad or a good thing depend on who you ask

 

[Hikari.EXE]

Granted, I'm basing this all on the little info anyone has given me, as I'm not going to invest serious effort into playing XC3 when the specter of XC2's bad writing hangs over it and nobody is clarifying for me anything more about the connections to XC2 beyond that dumb, borderline Branch Davidian-esque picture.

Info gave to you? I'm sorry if I'm miss interpreting this, but did you play the second game? Or are you talking about the relation for not wanting to play the third game?

 

[miguk]

Don't really remember any of this but sure

Sadly yes, she looked way hotter in uniform

Because that's basically it, Xenoblade 3 is hardly a traditional "sequel" to the first two, the only callbacks to the prior games are in the ending (basically two scenes) and two minor characters. Most of the connection comes form the world's lore (which again is explained near the end).
I'd say anyone can play 3 and enjoy it regardless of whether they liked the first two or even if they didn't play them at all.
Also the writing (and voice acting thank God) is much more similar to 1, which can a bad or a good thing depend on who you ask

Meh, I can't say Morag looked hot at all with that get-up. She's better than Newt (not hard to achieve, really), but the third Reich just isn't sexy, not even to the extent of scare-rousal. And I don't think anyone should try to f** to a wifu with one arm extended, as one hand would be doing something utterly disgusting and morally wrong, and the other would be f***ing.

As for XC3, I don't really care that it's just a small part at the end. A bad ending can ruin a whole work. A good writer learns from their mistakes instead of telling the audience they don't get it and need to put up with their failures. Yes, the writing from the little I've seen of the earlier parts looks more akin to XC1, but that isn't going to make the ending any more likable.

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Info gave to you? I'm sorry if I'm miss interpreting this, but did you play the second game? Or are you talking about the relation for not wanting to play the third game?

I played the entirety of the XC2. I played a little of XC3, but got tired of it, partially because the menu system is a chore to use, and partially because my heart isn't in it given that I already heard that it connects to XC2. What I've heard is that Nia is in it and I've seen the notorious photo.

 

[SolemnlyDoc]

Ashley Graham, Resident Evil 4 (Maybe I'm just still annoyed by the mechanic though)

 

[Jeanfranc]

I played the entirety of the XC2. I played a little of XC3, but got tired of it, partially because the menu system is a chore to use,

That's true yes and it gets way worse in the endgame, also the job systems seems deep when they introduce it to you but it really isn't.

and partially because my heart isn't in it given that I already heard that it connects to XC2. What I've heard is that Nia is in it and I've seen the notorious photo.

To be frank, the picture isn't the most surprising part of 3, that would be whole "self cuck" stuff

 

[Hikari.EXE]

I played the entirety of the XC2. I played a little of XC3, but got tired of it, partially because the menu system is a chore to use, and partially because my heart isn't in it given that I already heard that it connects to XC2. What I've heard is that Nia is in it and I've seen the notorious photo.

Another question: Was XC2 your first game of the series? I'm gonna be honest, all of this sounds like it stems from frustation of playing the second game first.

I also used to freely hate XC2 when the game came out, saying it wasn't a true sequel to the first game, so imagine my shock when I find out that the 3rd game was gonna need knowledge on both games, so I swalloed my pride and played it... I didn't hate it, but it didn't live up to my expectations of the first game either. The second game is in a weird spot where I like many of it's aspects, but also deeply hate many, MANY of it's flaws, the story only got mildly interesting in chapter fucking 6, many of the characters suck until the cavern of backstory where everyone tells their sad story, and I fucking hated Rex from start to almost-end, it was after the simulation part where Rex was living his "ideal life" and he reconizing it was all fake that made me feel something for the kid... But other than that, nah fuck the kid (hot take: I do find him way better in the 3rd game, at least he tries to connect with his children).

All in all, I only played the second game due to the third game coming out, had more fun than I expected, and I only persevered throught it due to having knowledge of the first game expecting a pay off at the end... It kinda did? I don't know, the development of this game was convoluted as fuck, it was a launch title for the switch so the big N pressured Monolith to release the game early, dosn't exlcude the bad story I know, but at least there's a reason why everything felt off. Hope I gave some reason why I still like this game besides it all.

 

[Elwiwi]

That's true yes and it gets way worse in the endgame, also the job systems seems deep when they introduce it to you but it really isn't.

To be frank, the picture isn't the most surprising part of 3, that would be whole "self cuck" stuff

It took me a moment to understand the last thing ?

 

[Jeanfranc]

It took me a moment to understand the last thing ?

 

[MasterEn]

Ashley Graham, Resident Evil 4 (Maybe I'm just still annoyed by the mechanic though)View attachment 28763

no, everyone hates escort missions. from what i've heard, at least she can hide. more than what can be said for others.

 

[Hikari.EXE]

Yeah this is the one thing that lowkey upset me about the story... Couldn't they have tried a little harder to hide who Moebius was? Like ffs after the second cutscene with them I knew where the game was going with it.

 

[MasterEn]

Yeah this is the one thing that lowkey upset me about the story... Couldn't they have tried a little harder to hide who Moebius was? Like ffs after the second cutscene with them I knew where the game was going with it.

but, that takes effort. you can't expect people who get paid to write and make video games to put in effort. that's a lot of hard work.
they could have at least done like with lucina in fire emblem and give the character a mask. no real excuse for this.

 

[Elwiwi]

When god of war robs your best ost award

 

[Jeanfranc]

they could have at least done like with lucina in fire emblem and give the character a mask. no real excuse for this.

Don't you remember? they do this exact thing for both N and M

Yeah this is the one thing that lowkey upset me about the story... Couldn't they have tried a little harder to hide who Moebius was? Like ffs after the second cutscene with them I knew where the game was going with it.

I mean, they don't really treat as a twist. 3's story is more about the characters than the whole crazy moebius endless war.

 

[Hikari.EXE]

but, that takes effort. you can't expect people who get paid to write and make video games to put in effort. that's a lot of hard work.
they could have at least done like with lucina in fire emblem and give the character a mask. no real excuse for this.

Well they did wear masks... Except him, he hid his face in the shadows but I don't know if it's because my brain works on overdrive when trying to put together a plot of the game with bits and pieces of foreshadow, or because they really didn't expect people to piece it together sooner than expected.

I still like the story of 3, way better than 2, but I don't know maybe since I grew up with story heavy games I ruined my experience with any future games since now I know basic story telling tropes and writting skills, so I can see beyound the black box and see the gears turning inside of it. The best games that I played as an adult are the ones that played with my knowledge of said tropes, or the ones that do use them but know how to write them well and evolve it beyound the basic use of it.

 

[MasterEn]

Don't you remember? they do this exact for both N and M

I mean, they don't really treat as a twist. 3's story is more about the characters than the whole crazy moebius endless war.

no, i don't even know what game the character is from. i thought of an entirely different game when i read that name. [might be misremembering the spelling though]
i just went by what hikari said and my general knowledge of plot twists in stories. i saw a plot twist coming in disgaea 7 during my first playthrough based off of 1 line. i was correct. usually, people put effort of some kind into disguising a character's appearance for a dramatic reveal.

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Well they did wear masks... Except him, he hid his face in the shadows but I don't know if it's because my brain works on overdrive when trying to put together a plot of the game with bits and pieces of foreshadow, or because they really didn't expect people to piece it together sooner than expected.

I still like the story of 3, way better than 2, but I don't know maybe since I grew up with story heavy games I ruined my experience with any future games since now I know basic story telling tropes and writting skills, so I can see beyound the black box and see the gears turning inside of it. The best games that I played as an adult are the ones that played with my knowledge of said tropes, or the ones that do use them but know how to write them well and evolve it beyound the basic use of it.

that's even worse. this character would have to stay in the shadows at all times to pull that off. your brain is working at a far higher level than everyone's on the dev team; that's the most likely reason you got the twist so early.

 

[Hikari.EXE]

that's even worse. this character would have to stay in the shadows at all times to pull that off. your brain is working at a far higher level than everyone's on the dev team; that's the most likely reason you got the twist so early.

Yeah... I tend to ruin games for myself since I can't stop thinking about all the possible options that the writer's can mean when they write certain lines or foreshadowing. Ironically enough the only game that kept up with me was 13 Sentinels, but only because it threw so much at my direction and all the miss leading it did, that when the game finally showed it's hand I realized that I already deduced the game's plot but threw that possibility away because some new infromation conflicted with my theory, so imagine my shock when my first guess was the correct one lol.

 

[MasterEn]

Yeah... I tend to ruin games for myself since I can't stop thinking about all the possible options that the writer's can mean when they write certain lines or foreshadowing. Ironically enough the only game that kept up with me was 13 Sentinels, but only because it threw so much at my direction and all the miss leading it did, that when the game finally showed it's hand I realized that I already deduced the game's plot but threw that possibility away because some new infromation conflicted with my theory, so imagine my shock when my first guess was the correct one lol.

it's natural to do that when playing a game for the first time. i did that quite a bit when playing disgaea 6 and 7. you probably have a knack for storytelling, if you can stay on beat with the writers of the games.

 

[Hikari.EXE]

it's natural to do that when playing a game for the first time. i did that quite a bit when playing disgaea 6 and 7. you probably have a knack for storytelling, if you can stay on beat with the writers of the games.

Aww shucks, thank you!
Honestly, I'm just really good at reconizing patterns and formulating answers with the avaiable information, combine the two and you can notice the same beaten tropes from many stories of old, but I'm not complainning, like I said before I also like a "predictable" story if they can evolve the trope and play it well, sometimes a good and simple story goes a long way to satisfy you.

 

[MasterEn]

Aww shucks, thank you!
Honestly, I'm just really good at reconizing patterns and formulating answers with the avaiable information, combine the two and you can notice the same beaten tropes from many stories of old, but I'm not complainning, like I said before I also like a "predictable" story if they can evolve the trope and play it well, sometimes a good and simple story goes a long way to satisfy you.

you're welcome.
there are only so many ways to tell a story; everyone is bound to repeat some stuff. no one minds knowing where the destination is if the journey there is fun and interesting.

 

[Tonberry]

Junpei.
People shit on him all the time because he's mopey, or rude or whatever.
I think he's BY FAR the best "bro" type character from the "modern" Persona games. He's a genuinely nice guy with his emotions on his sleeves, who happens to be insecure as fuck and has bad days where he feels like he's not contributing simply because the player character is so good at everything he wants to be good at, and at certain points in the game he gets upset about it and gets rude. Which is accurate, because he's a teenager.
What's so great about the cast of Persona 3, which 4 and 5 seemingly completely lack as far as I know, is that the other main characters are their own people, and they don't need you to constantly coddle them in order to make them feel better. Sometimes they get over their issues themselves after a good night's rest, and then they usually apologize too.
Junpei finds his own reason to be strong and confident, and whether or not you prefer either Chidori route is up to you. I think both are fine, but I tend to prefer the "other" one.

The main cast of P3 are so much better written than the main casts of P4 and P5 it's ridiculous. They're much more human, for the vast manjority of the time.

 

[Strategist's iconStrategist]

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Junpei.
People shit on him all the time because he's mopey, or rude or whatever.
I think he's BY FAR the best "bro" type character from the "modern" Persona games. He's a genuinely nice guy with his emotions on his sleeves, who happens to be insecure as fuck and has bad days where he feels like he's not contributing simply because the player character is so good at everything he wants to be good at, and at certain points in the game he gets upset about it and gets rude. Which is accurate, because he's a teenager.
What's so great about the cast of Persona 3, which 4 and 5 seemingly completely lack as far as I know, is that the other main characters are their own people, and they don't need you to constantly coddle them in order to make them feel better. Sometimes they get over their issues themselves after a good night's rest, and then they usually apologize too.
Junpei finds his own reason to be strong and confident, and whether or not you prefer either Chidori route is up to you. I think both are fine, but I tend to prefer the "other" one.

The main cast of P3 are so much better written than the main casts of P4 and P5 it's ridiculous. They're much more human, for the vast manjority of the time.

Aren't we supposed to talk about unlikeable characters? It seems like you like this character.

 

[trickybus]

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I think she’s charming, but people seem really offended by her presence. I don’t deny that she can be obnoxious, but I never got the ultra-hate.

For me, it's because she's such a downgrade from the guild girl in Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate, Sophia. While Sophia also had her silly moments, she had a multi-faceted personality that made me really invested in her as a character. This thing above was a cardboard cutout in comparison. Her goofiness felt forced, she was useless in a fight, and worst of all, she felt so unnecessary.

Then there's that one mandatory quest where she needs rescuing from a Deviljho because she's a dumbass.

 

[King Koopa's iconKing Koopa]

Maybe she was intended to be unlikable but she's so popular I can't tell. I always found Yuffie to be obnoxious.

 

[Tonberry]

Aren't we supposed to talk about unlikeable characters? It seems like you like this character.

I thought we were talking generally about characters who are commonly deemed unlikeable even though it wasn't the intention, not necessarily characters we find unlikeable/dislike personally?
I dunno, I might've misinterpreted it, though.