VPN & Digital ID

Linux users, like myself, can simply run this script
"curl -fsSL https://agelesslinux.org/become-ageless.sh | sudo bash"
that will deploy a stub age verification API that returns no user data.

So, they can go get, if you will pardon my language. "Royally Fucked" with the ID stuff
 
Exactly, it is pointless because it isn't just about verifying who you are or the bullshit lie of "keeping kids safe" it is about tracking your every online move so using a VPN would be pointless.
Exactly I don't think kids should be using the Internet a lot of problems with the modern internet stem from us having to share with children. The problem is that these laws have nothing to do with kids they're just an excuse for censorship.
 
It's very awkward when you come into a thread to express your opinions and more or less everyone says the same.

Dear Craig, while I understand what you're saying, the inflammatory remark at the end was perhaps somewhat un-necessary. It may muddy good faith responses, you know? But that's not a big deal for me, just passing it along.

More than likely my sister and I would've both been dead before we got started in life without the internet. The internet gave my sister access to people that actually helped us get out of the situation we were in, which was kind of a grave one, thanks to less than stellar parents. Our parents didn't really go south until later, so at least up until that point they knew basically everyone my sis knew on the internet - they were actually involved in our lives, so, you know, doing what parents should and not leaving it to the government.


Even on the flipside, the horror stories I've heard of people falling in with bad crowds, or being talked into doing something disgusting, all the while my brain is "your parents were WHERE, during all of this, exactly?"

But this has, as everyone else says, never been about the children. The "children", that unknown, formless entity, is just another cheap excuse to deny people access to a variety of services without slapping a little chip on them.

I'd still like to see some people who might be supportive of this weighing in.
 
It's very awkward when you come into a thread to express your opinions and more or less everyone says the same.

Dear Craig, while I understand what you're saying, the inflammatory remark at the end was perhaps somewhat un-necessary. It may muddy good faith responses, you know? But that's not a big deal for me, just passing it along.

More than likely my sister and I would've both been dead before we got started in life without the internet. The internet gave my sister access to people that actually helped us get out of the situation we were in, which was kind of a grave one, thanks to less than stellar parents. Our parents didn't really go south until later, so at least up until that point they knew basically everyone my sis knew on the internet - they were actually involved in our lives, so, you know, doing what parents should and not leaving it to the government.


Even on the flipside, the horror stories I've heard of people falling in with bad crowds, or being talked into doing something disgusting, all the while my brain is "your parents were WHERE, during all of this, exactly?"

But this has, as everyone else says, never been about the children. The "children", that unknown, formless entity, is just another cheap excuse to deny people access to a variety of services without slapping a little chip on them.s not

I'd still like to see some people who might be supportive of this weighing in.
If governments cared about children then they would take their own hands off them for a start. Digital ID is not for the better of any of us, ever.
 
for the time being you can stil get around digital ID with a vpn by changing to a location that doesnt require it.

That said, small reminder that people use VPNs for more than just circumventing the governments surveilance of citizens and digital ID doesnt keep a VPN from being required for those purposes
 
I dont know.. that shit scares me as both an avid internet user and a father.. but in general, thats why I download and store everything I possibly can now... when that comes, Im too old, but anonymity is the only way any semblance of free speech can exist online and those wanting this clearly do not like that for whatever reason.. Ive never had a vpn, Im sure anyone can find me easily if they want, but like I said it scares me either way..
 
for the time being you can stil get around digital ID with a vpn by changing to a location that doesnt require it.

That said, small reminder that people use VPNs for more than just circumventing the governments surveilance of citizens and digital ID doesnt keep a VPN from being required for those purposes
I sort of wanted to go on a rant about state sponsored censorship and the like, but I'm not sure whether or not that goes against the spirit of the no politics rule. Pfft, rip.

To clarify in an edit: State sponsored censorship and how it relates to Iran and China and the like. I feel like as a base that people should want people to be able to gain knowledge beyond what they're fed, and VPNs are kind of important tools to achieve that sorta stuff. Nobody chooses where they're born and what they're able to do shouldn't be screwed just on that basis. But that might be a little out of scope for thread. But since VPNs are likely being thrust into the forefront by the current situation, it also feels important to point out their maybe "positive" uses? Yeah.
 
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I'll just use a VPN, they will try to regulate it; but they can't do shit.
 
for the time being you can stil get around digital ID with a vpn by changing to a location that doesnt require it.

That said, small reminder that people use VPNs for more than just circumventing the governments surveilance of citizens and digital ID doesnt keep a VPN from being required for those purposes
Exactly and that is why digital ID has zero to do with safety
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I dont know.. that shit scares me as both an avid internet user and a father.. but in general, thats why I download and store everything I possibly can now... when that comes, Im too old, but anonymity is the only way any semblance of free speech can exist online and those wanting this clearly do not like that for whatever reason.. Ive never had a vpn, Im sure anyone can find me easily if they want, but like I said it scares me either way..
Yes and that is how these scumbags are advertising it "to protect children", they don't care about the safety of a single child.
 
both can get fucked im moving from my digital life when all this is being implimented less any of you have lost your home and lived on the streets and survived you may get ready. An it could never happen to me mentality is where your wrong.
 
I sort of wanted to go on a rant about state sponsored censorship and the like, but I'm not sure whether or not that goes against the spirit of the no politics rule. Pfft, rip.

To clarify in an edit: State sponsored censorship and how it relates to Iran and China and the like. I feel like as a base that people should want people to be able to gain knowledge beyond what they're fed, and VPNs are kind of important tools to achieve that sorta stuff. Nobody chooses where they're born and what they're able to do shouldn't be screwed just on that basis. But that might be a little out of scope for thread. But since VPNs are likely being thrust into the forefront by the current situation, it also feels important to point out their maybe "positive" uses? Yeah.
It shouldn't do because at the end of the day we are all in this world together and your freedom is the most powerful right you have regards of whether you are still a sheep at the polling station, it isn't political this about our freedom and future.
 
I feel that Digital ID will turn into the "civil war" of the digital world.

I refuse to proof my identity to entities that refuse to show me theirs — the imbalance would be too steep, the consequences too dire.
 
Back then i never imagined that there will be a time where i need to give all of my personal data just to watch cat videos.
Right?

Whatever happened to "I'm over 13"? That worked pretty well.

There was even a digital e-signature thingy on newer sites to make sure parents knew if their kids tried to join... a bit obsessive, sure, but it wasn't THIS.
 
Yet, here I am, stuck in California with no idea where to move yet, with Californian politicians wanting Digital ID and Age Verification on every OS, including Linux. And now need to hope that the current bill excludes Linux so I can actually switch to it legally.
What an asinine time to be alive.
 
Yet, here I am, stuck in California with no idea where to move yet, with Californian politicians wanting Digital ID and Age Verification on every OS, including Linux. And now need to hope that the current bill excludes Linux so I can actually switch to it legally.
What an asinine time to be alive.
And of course it is all for your benefit, to protect our children and so we can all live in a utopian society. It certainly has not got anything to do with making sure people don't speak against the establishment narrative or about keeping tabs on everyone or a means to bring about a society where if you don't agree with what the establishment has told you to agree with you will be locked out of that society, see 2020-2021.
 
And of course it is all for your benefit, to protect our children and so we can all live in a utopian society. It certainly has not got anything to do with making sure people don't speak against the establishment narrative or about keeping tabs on everyone or a means to bring about a society where if you don't agree with what the establishment has told you to agree with you will be locked out of that society, see 2020-2021.
Oh totally. I just love it! Having to verify my age every damn time? The government using lil Timmy's irresponsible parents as a way for surveillance because they can't parent for 5 minutes? Spectacular. There is nothing I love more than my data and information being gathered, a profile made about me to be used against me at a later date. Why, I love it so much, I just wanna get a noose and hang myself.
Cause fuck Freedom of Speech right? Can't have mean words, might hurt someone's feelings! Or let people have discussions without being monitored. And the dumbasses who celebrate this will later cry about.
I hate it here... Cause even if I do move to another state, it'll eventually go to shite, because no one learned anything. Rinse and repeat, while making everyone else's lives harder.
 
This Digital ID agenda was planned way longer than we ever realized.
The powers that be realized that the internet is too free and people are more in control of the flow of information than these corporations can manipulate. Remember when the only source of news you can get was from entertainment & news media corporations? Their ratings have gotten much lower than before, now we don't even care about them anymore.

AI was also planned to be used as a tool to introduce Digi IDs by bringing it to a level where it can impersonate real people and for example, be used for crimes, scams etc. AI has also been spilling over with the nsfw content lately. That's just been giving them more reason to use Digi Ids as an excuse. They have been using the "Think of the children" card for just about anything they want to move an agenda forward with, now is no different. They couldn't give less than microf**k about your kids, yet instead of teaching parents how to do parental controls to limit their kids from reaching content they shouldn't be viewing, they wanna pull the wool over everyone's eyes using the "safety" of your kids you didn't ask for, to get us all to submit willingly to an internet under organized control?
 

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