The "Sacred Cows" of gaming: Which classic do you actually find... awful? 🙊

[gastd]

There are those games that always top every "Top 100 of all Time" list. Anyone who criticizes them immediately faces a storm of outrage online. But let's be honest: not every classic is a must-have today. Let's slaughter the "sacred cows". Which game is celebrated by everyone but it just never clicked for you? Here are my two candidates for the hot seat:
1.GoldenEye 007 (N64): Yes, the multiplayer was legendary. But have you played it recently with the original controller? The framerate drops to 10 FPS with every explosion and the controls feel awful.
2.The early Resident Evil games (PS1): Tank controls were a means to an end for the horror back then. Today, they're simply a reason to throw the controller against the wall.

Now it's your turn:
Which masterpiece of game did you find boring after 30 minutes?
Which franchise do you still not understan?
Is there a modern game that captures the retro vibe much better than the Origins?

 

[x_lodx_lod's icon]

I still want to understand why Resident Evil is such a huge success with those tank controls.I still have to play other games to be sure.

 

[Deleted member 466]

How many times have we had this topic?

I summon The Hot Takes thread in attack position, and end my turn.

Hot takes

Welp, It's all in the title ya see. Share some downright horrid takes and opinions. I'll start...Errm...Uhhhh... Marvel VS Capcom 2 is one of the most overrated Capcom fighting games; let alone for the genre. While the mechanics can be enjoyable, I personally just don't enjoy the flashy, over...

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[x_lodx_lod's icon]

Quantas vezes já abordamos esse assunto?

Eu invoco o tópico "The Hot Takes" em posição de ataque e encerro meu turno.

Hot takes

Welp, It's all in the title ya see. Share some downright horrid takes and opinions. I'll start...Errm...Uhhhh... Marvel VS Capcom 2 is one of the most overrated Capcom fighting games; let alone for the genre. While the mechanics can be enjoyable, I personally just don't enjoy the flashy, over...

retrogametalk.com

 

[PSVitaForever]

I regret spending money day-one on "Zelda Tears of Kingdom", power of advertisment and the news about leaking because I'm not even a Zelda fan. The Lego-like mechanic was boring, clunky and frustrating, I could not wait to be done with the mandatory buildings, and then I almost rushed through the end. Also, I remember a grey-yellow world, I have better memories of open worlds in SAO Hollow Realization and YS8 in Vita.

 

[DayBreak_Illusion]

SAO Hollow Realization

thanks for reminding me, i own all of them so far and haven't seen anyone talk about them. I like the first 2 games on the PS4, i should get on playing the rest.

 

[Iraito]

Pokemon, they bored me as a teen both the anime and games and nothing changed, mind you i even forced myself to finish fire red and a bunch of others, still didn't like it.

 

[SeventhSon]

Sonic the Hedgheg was never good

 

[BrawlMan]

Resident Evil 4. I've only done the two playthroughs, and really don't like much about it. RE5 is better, and the remake of 4 is one of the best games of all time. A lot of shooters modeled after RE4 in some way are better. Evil Within 1 & 2, Dead Space 1/Remake & 2, Shadows of the Damned, Cronos: The New Dawn, and both Alan Wake games

Just so we're clear, my first RE game was 2 when it first came out, and I got RE4 day one.

 

[PSVitaForever]

thanks for reminding me, i own all of them so far and haven't seen anyone talk about them. I like the first 2 games on the PS4, i should get on playing the rest.

That's the only SAO I played (also only SAO media I know of, never watched anime/movie), but I enjoyed it A LOT -and without the update patch for better performance, because I had no memory space, in fact the first boss was like playing in slow-motion.
If you can play it on Switch (or other consoles?) I believe the graphics/performance will be better, if you like Vita and SAO you're in for hours of contents and many different and wonderful areas to explore.

 

[Ilathariel]

I don't think it's horrible, but is far surpassed by its peers and successors: Ocarina of Time.
It's Zelda's GTA 3: super important, laid the foundations on how to build a 3D Zelda, but that's it

 

[DayBreak_Illusion]

That's the only SAO I played (also only SAO media I know of, never watched anime/movie), but I enjoyed it A LOT -and without the update patch for better performance, because I had no memory space, in fact the first boss was like playing in slow-motion.
If you can play it on Switch (or other consoles?) I believe the graphics/performance will be better, if you like Vita and SAO you're in for hours of contents and many different and wonderful areas to explore.

I have them all on PS4 and PS5. So ill add them to my games to play this year. They play way better on ps4-5 from the looks of it

 

[NotReallyHere]

While I don't necessarily miss the tank controls in Resident Evil, just seeing that game in motion back in 1996 was nothing short of mind-blowing! Granted, I had never seen or heard of the Alone in the Dark games before then, so I had nothing else to base it on. But when a game comes along that is that fresh, exciting, and high-tech, you kind of learn to work with its faults

On that note, I'll always love GoldenEye. But it was a "slow burn," as I didn't like it all that much at the start. Didn't have a copy of my own, and was stuck with playing only the multiplayer at a friend's house. Endlessly. With no way to practice or learn the controls. But at least I got a full Summer of four-player split-screen multi out of it, which, in retrospect, is an experience I wouldn't trade for anything

It wasn't until I played the game in single player that I really came to appreciate its nuance. Silencers actually work as advertised, as silenced weapons and the "slapper" are the only ways to eliminate guards without spawning more in retaliation. Learning to strafe-run is paramount to success. And the objective changes / AI bump in the harder difficulties made replaying old levels a fresh experience.

Flawed as it may be from a performance standpoint, that's never been something that's preventing me from enjoying it. I was already pretty used to some of my favorite games slowing down during intense moments (Super Ghouls n' Ghosts, UN Squadron) so that aspect just kinda came with the territory!

ProTip: to avoid slowdown from explosions, don't let guards throw grenades or unexpectedly blow things up in the first place

As far as an all-timer that I actually don't like all that much, my vote goes to Ocarina of Time, as well. And, yes, I was there - I had a Nintendo 64 as my primary console in 1998. But I just wasn't interested. Zelda was never my favorite series (despite having a good time with The Adventure of Link and A Link to the Past) and I didn't really feel the need to play a new one. Being shown the game at friend's houses - and always seeing the same Kokori Village starting point - didn't do much to sell me on it, either...

I've tried to play through it since then. Several times. But it just never clicked.

Wind Waker, on the other hand? Absolutely adore that one

 

[_Axl]

"Opinions are like asses; everyone has its own."
MegaMan 2, Sonic Adventure 2, Final Fantasy 7, Xenoblade Chronicles games (not talking 'bout Saga nor Gears), all of those FPS that aren't Half-Life, gacha games... Y'know the deal.

Just because those games aren't my thing doesn't mean that I hate everyone else who likes them. After all, people might hate me just because of that exact thing.
But that's how people work (both online and IRL, but obviously far more online).

Mate, if you don't like I love /or like a game I don't then that's cool, just don't curse my entire bloodline just because of it lmao

 

[LightningLegs]

I've bounced off of the first hour of Xenogears probably 3 times at least. I just can't deal with such slow-scrawling text, especially in such a dialogue-heavy game.

If the game had a text speed setting (which the NES dragon quest games had years prior, mind you) I'd probably give it an honest chance.

 

[SeventhSon]

"Opinions are like asses; everyone has its own."
MegaMan 2, Sonic Adventure 2, Final Fantasy 7, Xenoblade Chronicles games (not talking 'bout Saga nor Gears), all of those FPS that aren't Half-Life, gacha games... Y'know the deal.

Just because those games aren't my thing doesn't mean that I hate everyone else who likes them. After all, people might hate me just because of that exact thing.
But that's how people work (both online and IRL, but obviously far more online).

Mate, if you don't like I love /or like a game I don't then that's cool, just don't curse my entire bloodline just because of it lmao

 

[DayBreak_Illusion]

"Opinions are like asses; everyone has its own."
MegaMan 2, Sonic Adventure 2, Final Fantasy 7, Xenoblade Chronicles games (not talking 'bout Saga nor Gears), all of those FPS that aren't Half-Life, gacha games... Y'know the deal.

Just because those games aren't my thing doesn't mean that I hate everyone else who likes them. After all, people might hate me just because of that exact thing.
But that's how people work (both online and IRL, but obviously far more online).

Mate, if you don't like I love /or like a game I don't then that's cool, just don't curse my entire bloodline just because of it lmao

Exactly. I saw a user here putting people on ignore for posting gacha characters in there profile. Its just a video game, don't know why you would have to ignore an entire person cause of there types of games

 

[BrawlMan]

Exactly. I saw a user here putting people on ignore for posting gacha characters in there profile. Its just a video game, don't know why you would have to ignore an entire person cause of there types of games

I don't like gacha games but I would never put somebody on ignored just for having a profile picture of a character from one of those games. Some people are really just that petty.

 

[maltra]

Final Fantasy. "Awful" is a strong word, but I could never get into turn based rpgs despite trying everything from Dragon Quest to Wizardry. Maybe I'll have to give them another shot sometime in the future.

 

[Lokgamer]

Metal Gear Solid. I like stealth games, (splinter cell, hitman, even manhunt) but when I played Metal Gear Solid 1 and 3, I just hated the gameplay, camera and the "kojimadas".

GTA. I have played gta 3, 5 and San Andrés and I found them boring in gameplay and uninteresting in story, characters and world.

Classic Resident Evil. This is a little tricky, cause I like those games, but the awful tank controls and that damn limited inventory makes them not as enjoyable as they should be. Apart from that, I enjoy the feeling of fight monsters and how campy are RE games.

Every Souls Game. The extreme ambiguity of history doesn't give me narrative hook, combat is slow and boring and the best part of all (sarcasm), they're hard games.

The last of us. A "Just fine" game.

 

[Stingy Perry Stingy Perry]

I love stealth games but I couldn’t seem to find any liking for the Splinter Cell series both gameplay and story wise.

 

[BrawlMan]

The last of us. A "Just fine" game.

It's RE4 with stealth and human enemies mixed in zombie enemies. I didn't care much for it either.

 

[gwardojones]

Ocarina of Time for me. I was a big 2D Zelda fan growing up. Those games gave you a lot of space to roam and explore and trusted you to figure things out yourself. Plus, Link to the Past and Link's Awakening look great, even to this day.

My younger brother got Ocarina of Time as a Christmas present the year it came out, while I got Smash Brothers (I won that one). I was hyped to see what a 3D Zelda could be and was immediately turned off just by looking at it. The graphics are awful and were even back then (most N64 games look terrible--PS1 at least tried to have some sort of aesthetics, but Nintendo's first-party titles were jagged and miserable to look at).

And my god the hand-holding. It felt like I couldn't take two steps without the game stopping me to tell me something I could have learned just by looking at the game (Why do I need to know how to equip arrows, or how much a specific rupee is worth EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I pick one up?). And the game feels hemmed in at every turn. People talk about Hyrule Field like it was some amazing thing, but it just feels like a big, empty space with very obvious boundaries all around it.

I do love Wind Waker and I thought Twilight Princess was alright (mostly for the story and characters--it has a lot of the same problems as Ocarina, but it's not miserable to look it, so points there). I thought Breath of the Wild was boring as hell and had to force myself to the end. But I'll always love the Game Boy Zeldas and LttP. Those games felt like grand adventures against the malevolent forces of evil. They let me feel like a hero by trusting that I was smart enough to solve puzzles and navigate their worlds. Meanwhile, Aonuma's Zelda titles don't trust me to go to the fridge to get a glass of milk and I dislike most of them for that.

 

[Megarockman _1987 Megarockman _1987]

The classic GTA'S games (1 and 2)
Man, the controls are horrible, the The view is horrible and is boring
Gta 3 is more better but
My problem with this game is that there isn't much to do besides the missions; despite being the first in 3D, it doesn't have much to offer in its world.

 

[BrawlMan]

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