PS4 The PS4 is already getting outdated, are you going to switch to a PS5 or are we going to wait for the price to go down?

PS5 feels outdated IMO, even compared to the PS4 which has nicer trophy images, a better UI, and the ability to actually back up your saves on USB.

Oh yeah, and the PS4 actually has games.
'Actually has games' my eyes are rolling so hard right now.

Also hilarious that people had the exact same complaint about last gen. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
 
'Actually has games' my eyes are rolling so hard right now.

Also hilarious that people had the exact same complaint about last gen. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
I can tell you a curiosity: my PlayStation 4 was my first video game. I thought it would last forever, but as companies nowadays want to make money without caring about others,It's getting hard for me to find games for myself that are cheap
 
And Switch 2 is almost that outdated because it's a little better than PS4 in terms of "power" lol.
Is a nintendo switch 2 even better than a ps4 genuine question as I don't think its that strong but maybe I am wrong.
 
My PS4 Pro has been in the closet since the PS5 released in 2020. I do intend on modding it at some point and installing delisted games, some VR games I never bought, etc. I do have PT installed on mine.
 
Is a nintendo switch 2 even better than a ps4 genuine question as I don't think its that strong but maybe I am wrong.
Switch 2's CPU wins for having newer technology and it designed to deal with how newer games require more CPU power while PS4 belongs to an era in gaming that CPU power was not needed that much. This is why developers would wanna ditch PS4 and release their games on PS5 and Switch 2 instead of PS4.

PS4, especially PS4 Pro's GPU "beats" Switch 2 in terms of raw power, however Switch 2 having modern technologiest makes it work smart and do better and more job with lower power so Switch 2 beats this round too.

As for RAM, Switch 2 have more RAM but it's slower, but Switch 2 has way faster storage device.

So when I look on the paper PS4 was designed for how gaming was back then that is not satisfactory for today's standards which is why new AAA games won't be released on PS4 and some old online games switching to PS5. As for Switch 2, on paper the whole hardware design is smart but it's also so cheap it's not ok to release today's AAA games on it. I guess Nintendo expected, for example, Capcom would release downgraded version of Resident Evil 9 on it or something and they would bother a lot for optimization to make it fit into new technology of making game render low resolution but it's upscaled smartly for better graphics quality but they would go for streaming route just like what they did with Switch 1 lol. So technically Switch 2 satisfies today's gaming but it doesn't satisfy how much it needs extra work has to be done on it and wasting budget and shit. I would rather release the game on current generation consoles instead of Switch 2 unless Nintendo would pay extra money.

In the end, Switch 2 does beat PS4, even PS4 Pro yet Switch 2 cannot compete against current generation consoles that makes its existence nonsense and making it bad decision to play new games unless you only care about Nintendo games and emulation via breaking the console.
 
I already bought a secondhand PS4 Pro with several games and two controllers included for about $170 in March. It will more than likely be the last mainstream console I own, it was never my favorite console (though it does have the best controller IMO) and certainly didn't win any favors from me in 2016 when my launch PS4 ate my copy of DOOM 2016 and died shortly after.

Next console I buy will probably be some FPGA based thing like the MISTER Multisystem, and I'd also like to buy some XReal AR glasses for my PC before then. As well as a second computer running a Linux distro, so I can take all the compatibility layers emulators and such I've heard work so well for gaming and try them firsthand. In fact, since I got my current PC I've barely touched my PS4 and kept it offline so I can avoid signing Take-Two's bullshit EULA when I play RDR II or GTA V. I dunno if the PS4 emulator has compatibility with those titles yet (the only one I know it supports is Bloodborne) and in any event I'm not likely to have a PC capable of running it for a couple years more.
 
Demon Souls was the main reason why my nephews wanted a PS5.

But for myself, I think Capcom was my only good reason for getting one and their horrible optimization for their Triple A titles on PC. Capcom seems to use the PS5 as their benchmark for AAA titles so games like Dragon's Dogma 2 and Monster Hunter Wilds runs problem free on the PS5 compared to the complaints and horror stories I keep reading on their corresponding Steam boards.

If you're not interested in the above particularly or anything PS5 exclusive wise, maybe it'll be better to keep your PS4.

The current "new" game I just bought is Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom (which is also available on PS4) and it's a really good Metroidvania. Also had a 70% discount on PSN so it's money well spent.

In other words, there's still a lot of good titles you can find on PSN for PS4.
 
A computer engineered in and around 2010 - 2013 for a consumer friendly*** price tag. It wasn’t state of the art at any point, but it’s been firmly “outdated” for a while. It’s been said for years, but designing for weaker hardware has been actively holding games back. I would make the opposite argument as well, as I think the PS4’s last games that really were built around it came in 2019, before the new generation came around.


All that said, with threads like this popping up and prices on the system in the bin… now is the time to get one. While I have a PS5, best believe I’ve been eyeing the games because the PS4 had the best console versions of most of the multi-plats that came to it, as well as some cool exclusives. Biggest thing I’m looking at though is the PSVR1, and while I’m taking a major break from buying games right now as a way of breaking habit, you had best believe I’ve considered the VR1 at some point, since the 2 is an overpriced embarrassment that isn’t even compatible with the games from the 1. Plus, I’ve never even tried VR thanks to the habitually high price tag, so I’m watching the prices fall like a hawk for these VR units, as well as the selection of cool games they got as exclusives.


***the PS4 cost less than the XBox One at launch, and it’s the last console to have its price go down over its lifespan, but I would argue it never went down enough for my taste, as it probably could have been put at $150 U.S. at some point and been decently profitable off game sales alone.
 
A computer engineered in and around 2010 - 2013 for a consumer friendly*** price tag. It wasn’t state of the art at any point, but it’s been firmly “outdated” for a while. It’s been said for years, but designing for weaker hardware has been actively holding games back. I would make the opposite argument as well, as I think the PS4’s last games that really were built around it came in 2019, before the new generation came around.


All that said, with threads like this popping up and prices on the system in the bin… now is the time to get one. While I have a PS5, best believe I’ve been eyeing the games because the PS4 had the best console versions of most of the multi-plats that came to it, as well as some cool exclusives. Biggest thing I’m looking at though is the PSVR1, and while I’m taking a major break from buying games right now as a way of breaking habit, you had best believe I’ve considered the VR1 at some point, since the 2 is an overpriced embarrassment that isn’t even compatible with the games from the 1. Plus, I’ve never even tried VR thanks to the habitually high price tag, so I’m watching the prices fall like a hawk for these VR units, as well as the selection of cool games they got as exclusives.


***the PS4 cost less than the XBox One at launch, and it’s the last console to have its price go down over its lifespan, but I would argue it never went down enough for my taste, as it probably could have been put at $150 U.S. at some point and been decently profitable off game sales alone.
I'm going to keep my PS4 and buy a Nintendo Switch to be my portable
 
I'm going to keep my PS4 and buy a Nintendo Switch to be my portable
I think new games will be a rough time, but if you aren’t buying many of those and you’re mainly getting indies and cheap used games, a PS4 is a genuine system to rock with in the mid 2020’s. It’s all a matter of if you want or need that extra power, as a PS4 Pro can still more than get the job done in the case of many games.
 
I think new games will be a rough time, but if you aren’t buying many of those and you’re mainly getting indies and cheap used games, a PS4 is a genuine system to rock with in the mid 2020’s. It’s all a matter of if you want or need that extra power, as a PS4 Pro can still more than get the job done in the case of many games.
Just answer one question, will I still be able to receive an exchange? I wanted to platinum some VR FNAF games, how can I buy the equipment that is my dream, also playing those motion games?
 
I'm going to keep my PS4 and buy a Nintendo Switch to be my portable
I only have a Switch for the exclusives that I know no one was going to share online for at least 10 or so years from now (and that's if they're obsessed with a complete library/archival) buying a SteamDeck for titles my laptop couldn't handle and as an on the go emulator for older games has made it my best purchase since my PS4 after I missed the previous generation.
 
I only have a Switch for the exclusives that I know no one was going to share online for at least 10 or so years from now (and that's if they're obsessed with a complete library/archival) buying a SteamDeck for titles my laptop couldn't handle and as an on the go emulator for older games has made it my best purchase since my PS4 after I missed the previous generation.
Here in my country it is not cheaper, I will buy a suite that I will buy in that cool one here is unlocked that there is a store that sells unlocked in my country several models and of all editions
 
Just answer one question, will I still be able to receive an exchange? I wanted to platinum some VR FNAF games, how can I buy the equipment that is my dream, also playing those motion games?
In terms of raw power? If they're on the PS4 you should be able to do fine and the PS4 Pro should handle it with ease but ultimate gaming experience for VR and most current gen gaming experiences will still be PC no matter what as you can build it up to keep in line with developer tools so long as you know how to build your PC and have the money, my coworker just pissed away $800 USD on a graphics card alone. Unless you're demanding the highest graphic fidelity on top of smooth gameplay just stick to the PS4 for it's library, no one is demanding you to kill a good console still able to run without crashing or stuttering after your save file gets bigger.
 
In terms of raw power? If they're on the PS4 you should be able to do fine and the PS4 Pro should handle it with ease but ultimate gaming experience for VR and most current gen gaming experiences will still be PC no matter what as you can build it up to keep in line with developer tools so long as you know how to build your PC and have the money, my coworker just pissed away $800 USD on a graphics card alone. Unless you're demanding the highest graphic fidelity on top of smooth gameplay just stick to the PS4 for it's library, no one is demanding you to kill a good console still able to run without crashing or stuttering after your save file gets bigger.
My dream is always to play those VR games like job simulator since yes because I watched it for the first time I want to have the experience
 
Here in my country it is not cheaper, I will buy a suite that I will buy in that cool one here is unlocked that there is a store that sells unlocked in my country several models and of all editions
Understood I never buy a game at full price, even my Deck was bought at discount. The only one was the Switch which I'm still regretting to some degree even if I knew it was going to be for exclusives and not a long expensive library compared to the Deck that I would share the rest of my Steam library with.
 
My dream is always to play those VR games like job simulator since yes because I watched it for the first time I want to have the experience
The pain I feel for you is so real. The price here in the states has gone down, as PS5 has become super popular among console players (not popular in opinion, rather in ownership), and many of the more disgruntled have headed over to PC. I think, depending on where you live, your main job is to be patient and get lucky.

The biggest strategy you can give yourself is keep a savings around for the VR set and keep an eye out on auction sites or local listings like Facebook Marketplace. Know which places in your area sell used games too, as that can get you more than just a VR kit. I wish you the best of luck with however you choose to go about it!
 
The pain I feel for you is so real. The price here in the states has gone down, as PS5 has become super popular among console players (not popular in opinion, rather in ownership), and many of the more disgruntled have headed over to PC. I think, depending on where you live, your main job is to be patient and get lucky.

The biggest strategy you can give yourself is keep a savings around for the VR set and keep an eye out on auction sites or local listings like Facebook Marketplace. Know which places in your area sell used games too, as that can get you more than just a VR kit. I wish you the best of luck with however you choose to go about it!
What is your Playstation ID so I can add you if you want and if I can call you a friend I can follow you sorry about my comments what I just wanted to have the VR experience that I always in I've loved motion games ever since I first discovered the Xbox 360 with Kinect.
 
What is your Playstation ID so I can add you if you want and if I can call you a friend I can follow you sorry about my comments what I just wanted to have the VR experience that I always in I've loved motion games ever since I first discovered the Xbox 360 with Kinect.
Sorry! I don’t play online with PlayStation!
 
Sorry! I don’t play online with PlayStation!
Oh, I see, sorry if I offended you, I'm just asking. I rarely meet people who like my taste in games. Sorry, okay, just so you know, have you seen the new games that are going to be released? in my country GTA 6 will arrive 600
 
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