The Ogre Battle Saga

[Tsukishima Tsukishima]

Also, one more point to add, here is that

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She inherits his powers but truthfully has zero proper character development, it's as bad as Amarant in FF9.

Amarant really stung because of his supposed 'history' with Zidane which is dropped as quick as your truth nuke for this point His design was kickass too, I loved his Afro Samurai-esque hairdo and convict / hitman background.

for real? "Lix's own Buttz"? that is fantastic... yeah I have all of the Disgaea games on my TB drives but yeah Im kinda put off to try them cuz I heard about all the HUGE numbers in the fighting... I did play thru the Prinny psp games tho.. yeah Langrisser is awesome, the first one on Mega Drive/ Genesis starts pretty difficult but goes better... no where near as hard as mastering Ogre Battle... another great spinoff series of a bigger one is Last Bible from the Shin Megami Tensei series.. great on gameboy and game gear etc

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I agree she isnt a good replacement character, but her job outfits are so cute

The huge numbers really do put a innate lack of satisfaction in the combat because you can get hopelessly lost in either vying to constantly improve it until it caps out, or you lose your motivation and will to to play. Thankfully, the grinding can only be seen as a sane amount for the necessity of enjoying the story and maybe enjoying post game content here and there. I love the games, but I'm not insane enough to go max everything to 9infinity just to go fight some damn post-game boss.

Disgaea has a lot of inherent charm that's not just tied to the outlandish and ridiculous grind hell that it is known by.

I think I'll take a peek at Ogre Battle ... you've got my interest there with how you mention it, also I heard a little bit of Last Bible through the grapevine myself, it has some seriously interesting plot, especially the 2nd one.

 

[RageBurner]

you got a point but I think 5 is essentially the sequel to 3 mechanics wise.. in my opinion I guess.. the guy who made 2 went off to do the SaGa series... I like the wonderswan versions of 1 and 2.. but still, her outfits are cute... not as good as Faris' but still cute

You're right. My headcanon is that FF4 is FF5 and FF5 is FF4, if we are talking incremental sequels. It would have made much more sense this way.

Amarant really stung because of his supposed 'history' with Zidane which is dropped as quick as your truth nuke for this point His design was kickass too, I loved his Afro Samurai-esque hairdo and convict / hitman background.

Don't get me wrong, design wise Amarant is great and I always keep him because Ninjamonks are weird and wonderful, but it feels like a huge omission to not develop him, especially in a title that was a generational sendoff.

I think I'll take a peek at Ogre Battle ... you've got my interest there with how you mention it, also I heard a little bit of Last Bible through the grapevine myself, it has some seriously interesting plot, especially the 2nd one.

Ogre Battle is great, but take my advice, don't worry to much about leader reputation (Chaos Frame) the first time you play. Just enjoy it and learn, then later chase other endings once you're more familiar with mechanics.

 

[MDGeistsfavMC5song]

yeah the Last Bible games are great, I really like the game gear one.. plot does go hard for 8 bit haldheld jrpgs for the time.. almost like a PC-88/98 game of its era.. yeah I love grinding like I love smoking cigarettes but yeah Disgaea always seemed off to me gameplay wise.. I do love the art and characters tho... I do need to give it a shot... oh if you play Ogre Battle, the hidden characters, items and story arcs are hard to find and Id recommend using a walkthrough in this day and age, it was crazy trying to do it in my teens... SPOILERS... I do hate how my witch girl Deneb cant be saved if you want better characters and story later down the road... I love Deneb

 

[Tsukishima Tsukishima]

yeah the Last Bible games are great, I really like the game gear one.. plot does go hard for 8 bit haldheld jrpgs for the time.. almost like a PC-88/98 game of its era.. yeah I love grinding like I love smoking cigarettes but yeah Disgaea always seemed off to me gameplay wise.. I do love the art and characters tho... I do need to give it a shot... oh if you play Ogre Battle, the hidden characters, items and story arcs are hard to find and Id recommend using a walkthrough in this day and age, it was crazy trying to do it in my teens... SPOILERS... I do hate how my witch girl Deneb cant be saved if you want better characters and story later down the road... I love Deneb

Thank you so much for informing me a witch girl Deneb can be recruited, I'll just go ahead and sacrifice a whole planet of characters just to keep cute witch girls in my party

Edit: Also, which one do I play first? There's a lot of entries on the Repo ...

 

[RageBurner]

yeah the Last Bible games are great, I really like the game gear one.. plot does go hard for 8 bit haldheld jrpgs for the time.. almost like a PC-88/98 game of its era.. yeah I love grinding like I love smoking cigarettes but yeah Disgaea always seemed off to me gameplay wise.. I do love the art and characters tho... I do need to give it a shot... oh if you play Ogre Battle, the hidden characters, items and story arcs are hard to find and Id recommend using a walkthrough in this day and age, it was crazy trying to do it in my teens... SPOILERS... I do hate how my witch girl Deneb cant be saved if you want better characters and story later down the road... I love Deneb

Thankfully, Deneb

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Doesn't really die, just transmigrates, which is why there are many Denebs throughout the franchise.

 

[MDGeistsfavMC5song]

Thankfully, Deneb

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Doesn't really die, just transmigrates, which is why there are many Denebs throughout the franchise.

yeah but if you forgive her and recruit her you lose out on like 80% of end game characters and story... but I love my hot anime witch... yeah you can make your own witches, but they iznt Deneb... speaking of anime witches, one of my favorite animes I saw in the recent couple of years is WitchCraft Works... that show kills me its so cute

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Thank you so much for informing me a witch girl Deneb can be recruited, I'll just go ahead and sacrifice a whole planet of characters just to keep cute witch girls in my party

Edit: Also, which one do I play first? There's a lot of entries on the Repo ...

what do you mean? different versions of Ogre Battle?... there's the og SNES one than a psx, saturn and psp one... I only played the snes one but Im sure they have differences but I dont know what

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oh shit... I brought a FUCK TON of nonsense... where should I put it?

 

[RageBurner]

yeah but if you forgive her and recruit her you lose out on like 80% of end game characters and story... but I love my hot anime witch... yeah you can make your own witches, but they iznt Deneb... speaking of anime witches, one of my favorite animes I saw in the recent couple of years is WitchCraft Works... that show kills me its so cute

It takes work to get the reputation back up, yeah.

what do you mean? different versions of Ogre Battle?... there's the og SNES one than a psx, saturn and psp one... I only played the snes one but Im sure they have differences but I dont know what

The Saturn version is the best looking and has the most maps. No painful loading like the PS1 version, either.

 

[Tsukishima Tsukishima]

yeah but if you forgive her and recruit her you lose out on like 80% of end game characters and story... but I love my hot anime witch... yeah you can make your own witches, but they iznt Deneb... speaking of anime witches, one of my favorite animes I saw in the recent couple of years is WitchCraft Works... that show kills me its so cute

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what do you mean? different versions of Ogre Battle?... there's the og SNES one than a psx, saturn and psp one... I only played the snes one but Im sure they have differences but I dont know what

There's a lot of versions here and going by their taglines I thought they were sequels and prequels , but if they truly don't matter, I'll probably grab the PSX version since I love playing games on Duckstation, the emulator, I've heard the Saturn version has more content (5 more levels and a boss supposedly) but I'm none too bothered much by those additions

 

[RageBurner]

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There's a lot of versions here and going by their taglines I thought they were sequels and prequels , but if they truly don't matter, I'll probably grab the PSX version since I love playing games on Duckstation, the emulator, I've heard the Saturn version has more content (5 more levels and a boss supposedly) but I'm none too bothered much by those additions

If you can emulate Saturn, opt for it instead for Ogre Battle.

OB64 is placed right after it. Tactics Ogre is also plot related but plays entirely differently. For Tactics Ogre you want PSP. Knight of Lodis is a prequel to Tactics Ogre.

Edit: The PS version has an ugly font and terrible performance, it's not just a matter of content.

 

[MDGeistsfavMC5song]

aw damn I didnt know the Saturn one had extra stuff, now I gotta play it... but yeah that screen shot is... intimidating.. to say the least... Im not a fan of the psx remakes of SFC/SNES games due to all the loading... it ruined the chrono trigger version on psx... but no, its up to you, I certainly am no expert... check out Witch Craft Works anime if you get a chance! super cute

 

[Tsukishima Tsukishima]

If you can emulate Saturn, opt for it instead for Ogre Battle.

OB64 is placed right after it. Tactics Ogre is also plot related but plays entirely differently. For Tactics Ogre you want PSP. Knight of Lodis is a prequel to Tactics Ogre.

Edit: The PS version has an ugly font and terrible performance, it's not just a matter of content.

thank you for the comprehensive list of the games to play!

I can run a Saturn emu just fine, so I guess I'll go for the Saturn port

 

[MDGeistsfavMC5song]

If you can emulate Saturn, opt for it instead for Ogre Battle.

OB64 is placed right after it. Tactics Ogre is also plot related but plays entirely differently. For Tactics Ogre you want PSP. Knight of Lodis is a prequel to Tactics Ogre.

Edit: The PS version has an ugly font and terrible performance, it's not just a matter of content.

Tactics Ogre has almost nothing in common with Ogre Battle other than certain characters with same names, like Canopus, Lans etc... but if anything its the prototype for Final Fantasy Tactics

 

[RageBurner]

thank you for the comprehensive list of the games to play!

I can run a Saturn emu just fine, so I guess I'll go for the Saturn port

It's excellent, really. You get loading only on the initial boot up. The PS version loads for every battle, and missions are long so... yeah you can imagine, right? The sprites also look better on the Saturn, both on the map and in combat.

 

[RageBurner]

Tactics Ogre has almost nothing in common with Ogre Battle other than certain characters with same names, like Canopus, Lans etc... but if anything its the prototype for Final Fantasy Tactics

Mechanically no. Plot wise, the connections are there. That is to say, they aren't just chuckle cameos, it's all connected.

 

[MDGeistsfavMC5song]

thank you for the comprehensive list of the games to play!

I can run a Saturn emu just fine, so I guess I'll go for the Saturn port

yeah Ogre Battle 64 takes place later and its one of the only ten or so games I like on the N64 up their with Sin and Punishment, F Zero X, Bangai-O, the N64 version of Mystery Dungeon/ Shiren the Wanderer... but it plays a bit differently yet maintains the overall style.. but I dont think the soundtrack is as good and the art isnt as good imo... but it was during that whole pre rendered fad of the era

 

[Tsukishima Tsukishima]

yeah Ogre Battle 64 takes place later and its one of the only ten or so games I like on the N64 up their with Sin and Punishment, F Zero X, Bangai-O, the N64 version of Mystery Dungeon/ Shiren the Wanderer...

Geist, I might very well just fall in love with you, You already had me at Sin and Punishment from our conversation yesterday but ... Bangai-O? Badump, badump ...

Are you gonna say Extreme-G next? Cause that's one of my absolute favourite games on the N64 too

 

[MDGeistsfavMC5song]

Mechanically no. Plot wise, the connections are there. That is to say, they aren't just chuckle cameos, it's all connected.

oh.. I must not have noticed it.. wait?.. which endings? theres like ten.. the good alignment with all dragon knights ending? or it doesnt matter, its just connected

 

[RageBurner]

yeah Ogre Battle 64 takes place later and its one of the only ten or so games I like on the N64 up their with Sin and Punishment, F Zero X, Bangai-O, the N64 version of Mystery Dungeon/ Shiren the Wanderer... but it plays a bit differently yet maintains the overall style.. but I dont think the soundtrack is as good and the art isnt as good imo... but it was during that whole pre rendered fad of the era

I actually think the music quality of OB 64 and the graphics are quite comparable, one of the few pre-rendered games I can look at without automatically feeling repulsed by it.

oh.. I must not have noticed it.. wait?.. which endings? theres like ten.. the good alignment with all dragon knights ending? or it doesnt matter, its just connected

The connections only truly hold cleanly through certain endings (the same problem SMT has, really), but I don't remember the details. There is a YT channel called Warren Report that does a great job explaining it all, though!

 

[MDGeistsfavMC5song]

Geist, I might very well just fall in love with you, You already had me at Sin and Punishment from our conversation yesterday but ... Bangai-O? Badump, badump ...

Are you gonna say Extreme-G next? Cause that's one of my absolute favourite games on the N64 too

sorry... too old... but no, Ive never heard of Extreme-G.. im sorry to break your heart

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I actually think the music quality of OB 64 and the graphics are quite comparable, one of the few pre-rendered games I can look at without automatically feeling repulsed by it.

no I agree its better than a lot, but still not as good as the snes stuff imo.. yeah, pre rendered stuff angered me back then..but I gotta play this Saturn version now

 

[RageBurner]

Are you gonna say Extreme-G next? Cause that's one of my absolute favourite games on the N64 too

Since I played Extreme G quite a bit, does that mean I get a chance? haha.

 

[Tsukishima Tsukishima]

sorry... too old... but no, Ive never heard of Extreme-G.. im sorry to break your heart

Haha you're good, I meant it as a joke anyway.

I love this game so much and is why I'm so blindly obsessed for futuristic racer games, the bikes themselves feels like something Syd Mead has drawn too

 

[MDGeistsfavMC5song]

sorry... too old... but no, Ive never heard of Extreme-G.. im sorry to break your heart

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no I agree its better than a lot, but still not as good as the snes stuff imo.. yeah, pre rendered stuff angered me back then..but I gotta play this Saturn version now

but Ill always keep you in my heart now... its good to make new friends.. its been a while

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Haha you're good, I meant it as a joke anyway.

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I love this game so much and is why I'm so blindly obsessed for futuristic racer games, the bikes themselves feels like something Syd Mead has drawn too
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oh man Syd Mead did that PC Engine game ... uh.. Terraforming?.. oh man I forgot about that.. hey, thats almost like Kaneda's bike from Akira, but its missing the Casio and US Army Air Corp logo..

 

[RageBurner]

Just one more note. The reason Ogre Battle is called Episode V is because the saga ran for much longer, since time immemorial, but no games cover Episodes I through IV, even though lore exists for them.

 

[MDGeistsfavMC5song]

Just one more note. The reason Ogre Battle is called Episode V is because the saga ran for much longer, since time immemorial, but no games cover Episodes I through IV, even though lore exists for them.

thats awesome... was he trying to do the Star Wars thing?... oh and everything is related to a Queen song... March of the Black Queen

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im gonna blast Gut's Theme for you RageBurner.. oh, the og Berserk dub is 100 times better than the remake stuff

 

[RageBurner]

thats awesome... was he trying to do the Star Wars thing?... oh and everything is related to a Queen song... March of the Black Queen

Hard to say what the creator's intent was, but maybe, yes.