The Mega JRPG thread.

[BlissfulBandit]

What are your guys thoughts on SMT?

It's a fantastic series, Nocturne is one of my favorite games of all time. Still hoping for someone to translate the PS1 version of SMT2.

 

[Deleted member 1816]

It's fine as a starting point. Who the hell even told you that anyway? I'd say that 6 or 7 are better starting points for Final Fantasy but that doesn't mean that you can't play 9 first.

The games are basically an Anthology series.
@Gorse Play them In any order you want.

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They're the greatest JRPGs I ever played.
My favorites are IV and Strange Journey.

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

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I like Nocturne the best. The SNES SMT games are kind of rough. I also like Strange Journey and Devil Survivor on the DS.

 

[Noon]

There's so many awesome old and new ones I can't keep track of my favorite genre ?

I really love the feel of Linda Cube Again, That kind of cerebral vibe and non standard JRPG mechanic heavy setup is totally my jam.

Generation of Chaos V is super underrated, the mechanics, map design, unit variety are crazy. The Neverland Series is a master at giving a mediocre first impression though lol.

For newer ones, Relayer, Reynatis, The Good Life, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (I hate the project but I love the game) My backlog is Immense...

 

[Tengu Plant]

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Excellent series, one of my favorites.
The edgy (positive value judgment) cyberpunk setting and aesthetics, the well researched demons, the way the alignment system can be used in different ways between games, the difficulty and of course the great art and music.
It all just comes together so well.

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I hear tell that FF9 basically requires you to have played at least 7 and 8 before it to get the full experience. Is that true? I shouldn’t start with that one then, right?

Well, it's not a sequel or anything, but it is meant as a return to the series fantasy roots in contrast to the scifi settings of 6, 7, and 8.
It's not a big deal though, you can start with any of them.

 

[LiberoVulpesLiberoVulpes's icon]

For SMTs my favorite is Nocturne.

But i like the Spin-off games too, mostly the Raidou games, Digital Devil Saga is great too.

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

Excellent series, one of my favorites.
The edgy (positive value judgment) cyberpunk setting and aesthetics, the well researched demons, the way the alignment system can be used in different ways between games, the difficulty and of course the great art and music.
It all just comes together so well.

I like the Law/Neutral/Chaos morality system and multiple endings. I dislike that it seems like the newer titles have moved away from that, it was one of the features that made the series unique.

 

[PrismRed]

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Back in my day when kids are busy hunting espers I was out there risking my life battling gods, deities, otherworldly beings, and flipping off YHWH.

 

[Deleted member 1816]

Excellent series, one of my favorites.
The edgy (positive value judgment) cyberpunk setting and aesthetics, the well researched demons, the way the alignment system can be used in different ways between games, the difficulty and of course the great art and music.
It all just comes together so well.

The music and art are my favorite things about the series.
Kazuma Kaneko (when he was still working as the character and demon designer) is such a great artist.
Shoji Meguro and Ryota Kozuka's compositions for the games are some of the greatest pieces of music I've ever heard.
And I love how SMT IV just feels like I'm playing an Old-school JRPG, as the developers said they wanted to evoke the style and feeling of the first SMT.

 

[LiberoVulpesLiberoVulpes's icon]

Something i have been wanting to get off my chest:

I feel that the remake of SMT3 Nocturne is too clean, i feel like the PS2 version had a more oppressive and dirty atmosphere, it really does feel that you are in a strange world, and that the world is ending. In the remake it just doesn't feel like that, everything is too clean and neat.

Anyone else felt that?

 

[Deleted member 1816]

A few days ago I started a new game of Metal Max just to take a screenshot and share here, then... I ended up deciding to replay it all over again, because why not? I just beat the Mutantdile and got the LAV

What do you think of the other Metal Max games?

 

[Tengu Plant]

I like the Law/Neutral/Chaos morality system and multiple endings. I dislike that it seems like the newer titles have moved away from that, it was one of the features that made the series unique.

I mean I don't mind things like Nocturne but yeah they need to play it straight more.

 

[J.F.C]

I dislike that it seems like the newer titles have moved away from that

The aligment system is still there, you must be thinking of either an spinoff or of SMT V Vengeance which still has the alignment system in place it's just that Atlus decided to not make a neutral ending for the new story they added to the re release (Which was a wise choice in my opinion, Neutral has always been too good an option in every SMT game after Strange Journey, so making players have to make an actual difficult choice between Law and Chaos improved the game for me.)

 

[LiberoVulpesLiberoVulpes's icon]

I always find Law too boring, and Chaos is fun, so i usually go Chaos.

 

[J.F.C]

Something i have been wanting to get off my chest:

I feel that the remake of SMT3 Nocturne is too clean, i feel like the PS2 version had a more oppressive and dirty atmosphere, it really does feel that you are in a strange world, and that the world is ending. In the remake it just doesn't feel like that, everything is too clean and neat.

Anyone else felt that?

Yeah it's pretty clear once you play the PS2 version and then play the remaster after you really see how much they butchered the atmosphere of the game on the remaster.
Edit: To elaborate on that a little bit, i do think i exagerrated a bit how bad it looks but it's way too bright compared to how dark and muddy the original felt.

 

[Tengu Plant]

Yeah it's pretty clear once you play the PS2 version and then play the remaster after you really see how much they butchered the atmosphere of the game on the remaster.

I think it might be easier to list modern remakes that don't botch the atmosphere.

 

[Deleted member 1816]

Quick Question:
What's your favorite JRPGs that were never released outside Japan?

 

[miguk miguk]

Quistis, Triple Triad and the GF animations are the best aspects of FFVIII. Squall was a fool for turning her down.

The one thing I loved about that game (aside from mommy-aura sensei) was how you could just play cards anywhere:

Some guy: "The world is in danger! If we don't get over there now..."
Squall: "I challenge you to Triple Triad."
Guy: "But, but the safety of the world is..."
Squall: "Decks out, coward!"

Only way to make it better is to let me challenge enemies mid-battle.

Also, this is the only FF I ever wanted a sequel to, but I want it to be mostly TT.

I hear tell that FF9 basically requires you to have played at least 7 and 8 before it to get the full experience. Is that true? I shouldn’t start with that one then, right?

You should be aware of several things from FF1 (largest amount of allusions of any game), FF4, FF6, and FF7 to get some of the bigger references. The other games pre-FF9 also help to further get all the little references.

 

[Bonkers225]

I loved FF8. The music, characters, weapons, summons, and yes, even the Junction system. Vastly superior to 9 imo.

 

[BlissfulBandit]

What do you think of the other Metal Max games?

I liked all the ones I've played, which were 1/Returns, MM2R, MM3 and Metal Saga. I thought about ranking them, but each one has its own positives and negatives so it'd be silly to compare them like that.
I'll just say that: Metal Max 3 has my favorite vehicle roster and storyline while Metal Max 2 has my favorite world to explore.

 

[LiberoVulpesLiberoVulpes's icon]

What's your favorite JRPGs that were never released outside Japan?

Mother 3.

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

The one thing I loved about that game (aside from mommy-aura sensei) was how you could just play cards anywhere:

Some guy: "The world is in danger! If we don't get over there now..."
Squall: "I challenge you to Triple Triad."
Guy: "But, but the safety of the world is..."
Squall: "Decks out, coward!"

Only way to make it better is to let me challenge enemies mid-battle.

Also, this is the only FF I ever wanted a sequel to, but I want it to be mostly TT.


You should be aware of several things from FF1 (largest amount of allusions of any game), FF4, FF6, and FF7 to get some of the bigger references. The other games pre-FF9 also help to further get all the little references.

There are also references to Josef, a FF2 character. Small references to older titles are common in all Final Fantasy games, though. I don't think it is a requirement to enjoy the games.

 

[LiberoVulpesLiberoVulpes's icon]

Each game being its own thing is a good for a series as long as FF.

Unlike the kiseki games... There is no point in me to play more kiseki games cause i hate Trails of Cold Steel.

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

Each game being its own thing is a good for a series as long as FF.

Unlike the kiseki games... There is no point in me to play more kiseki games cause i hate Trails of Cold Steel.

Speaking of the Trails games, those games get ridiculous amounts of hype in the JRPG community. Are they that good?

 

[miguk miguk]

There are also references to Josef, a FF2 character. Small references to older titles are common in all Final Fantasy games, though. I don't think it is a requirement to enjoy the games.

Well, the plot of FF9 is heavily based around concepts from FF1, and many things in it don't make perfect sense unless you've played that one. The 4 fiends (who are the exact same ones from FF1) come off as just random monsters if you don't get who they are. And there are other things in the main plot that won't make sense without playing other FF games. The 3 main villains are all variants of villains from the previous games (with a little bit of a previous hero mixed in), and at least one makes no sense at all if you never played an old-school FF before. (Granted, there's still a problem with him, but it at least makes a little more sense with more context.)