Square Enix screwing over Switch 2 Octopath fans

[Kovlak]

Nintendo is releasing Octopath Traveller 1 and 2 as Switch 2 Editions for $60 each or 75$ for a bundle in game-key card or digital format. The bundie is digital only. It's out now in Japan (or The Islamic Republic of Japan) and October 1st in the rest of the world.

The kicker though is that there is no upgrade path for Switch 1 owners and the game versions are said to be wholly incompatible. Even saves don't work across the two. So Octopath fans will have to pay premium to experience the marginal improvements, and on game-key cards.

Square Enix were always some very greedy mfs, but this is a bold new step for them.

 

[Ikagura]

The kicker though is that there is no upgrade path for Switch 1 owners

So they're doing the same thing as Sega with Sonic Frontiers Definitive (or Dragon Quest XI S)?

It's out now in Japan (or the Islanic Republic of Japan)

The... what?

 

[Nebulon_Galaxy]

Everyday Squeenix finds a way to fuck over there fans. Is there no limits?

 

[Kovlak]

So they're doing the same thing as Sega with Sonic Frontiers Definitive (or Dragon Quest XI S)?

For two old games charging $120 with game-key cards for physical.

 

[polter99]

If you are Squeenix fans, please stand up.

 

[SamanthaSamantha's icon]

I feel that we hear a variation of these news every day.

GOG FOREVER! At least there we don't get fucked this way (some other ways, sure, but not THIS way).

 

[Ikagura]

Being able to upgrade the NS1 version should almost be mandatory.

 

[Nuxx.exe]

I refuse to ever buy a keycard game. Also that's pretty crappy for them to release it as 2 separate full price games

 

[iamthemilkman]

That would make me never buy a Square Enix game at launch again. Thankfully, I rarely, if ever, have done that in the past 15+ years since I've been underwhelmed by their work for a long time. I'll continue buying their games used or new when they hit around $20.

 

[afureru]

This whole upgrade thing, even detached from digital license hell, turned me off from the recent consoles, anyway.

 

[JG509]

In my opinion, the entire aspect of upgrade paths and SW2 editions should've never been a thing unless technical aspects really hold that back.
Most games could had an update that checks if the game runs on a SW2 and apply the improvements, but we get a mess of a scene with paid upgrades, games being sold again full price and SOME titles just getting the improvements silently.

It's obvious that many heavier games simply ditch the existing SW1 version and get the assets from the newer machines and that this means sometimes that the same game is entirely different on the underside, but this chaos really is the perfect sandstorm for companies to pull these greedy stunts without being subtle.

And I expect that to keep happening within the next 2 or 3 years of the machine's lifespan, or at least until the SW1 stops getting support entirely. (doubt it because plenty of indies can run with SW1 specs, so many will still be released there)

 

[Netra]

They deserve it, both Nintendo fans and Square Enix fans. Keep defending the multi-million dollar company despite all the anti-consumer decisions they've made.

And, what's with separating digital and keycards?, they're exactly the same thing.

 

[Kovlak]

They deserve it, both Nintendo fans and Square Enix fans. Keep defending the multi-million dollar company despite all the anti-consumer decisions they've made.

And, what's with separating digital and keycards?, they're exactly the same thing.

Key-cards are a hybrid between physical and digital. They're Nintendo's half-step, with making Nintendo digital games $10 cheaper, before phasing out physical altogether.

 

[Ikagura]

And, what's with separating digital and keycards? They're exactly the same thing.

Technically they may be treated as two separate release internally or something (like when you buy a product on the US e-shop doesn't mean you own the EU nor JP version).

 

[Netra]

You're right, my brain isn't working very well at this hour, sorry.

Technically they may be treated as two separate release internally or something (like when you buy a product on the US e-shop doesn't mean you own the EU nor JP version).

 

[koren]

Not really sure this should be as "controversial" as people are making it out to be. This exact bundle is available on the Switch 1, and it's cheaper than buying either game individually there too. The DQ HD-2D remake "trilogy" has a similar bundle (for both consoles) as well.

 

[Ikagura]

You're right, my brain isn't working very well at this hour, sorry.

No problems.

I still don't see how OT couldn't fit in a cartridge though.

Not really sure this should be as "controversial" as people are making it out to be. This exact bundle is available on the Switch 1, and it's cheaper than buying either game individually there too. The DQ HD-2D "trilogy" has a similar bundle (for both consoles) as well.

How's the performance?

 

[koren]

No problems.

I still don't see how OT couldn't fit in a cartridge though.


How's the performance?

Couldn't say. I've yet to play any version of the OT series.

 

[Kovlak]

Not really sure this should be as "controversial" as people are making it out to be. This exact bundle is available on the Switch 1, and it's cheaper than buying either game individually there too. The DQ HD-2D remake "trilogy" has a similar bundle (for both consoles) as well.

It's controversial because Square Enix is gouging their fans and consumers by asking premium for slightly improved versions of older games, with no upgrade path whatsoever for who has already the games. And the fact that has happened before doesn't make it alright. You're normalizing getting fleeced by Square Enix, and even though they are notorious for these practices over many years, it doesn't make it acceptable.

 

[koren]

It's controversial because Square Enix is gouging their fans and consumers by asking premium for slightly improved versions of older games, with no upgrade path whatsoever for who has already the games. And the fact that has happened before doesn't make it alright. You're normalizing getting fleeced by Square Enix, and even though they are notorious for these practices over many years, it doesn't make it acceptable.

Why do you even care if the improvements are only "marginal?" As for the "upgrade path," I don't know. And I don't see why I should waste my time assuming their intentions without definitive proof either. Doesn't mean that they haven't been guilty of such practices in the past of course. I just don't think this is one of those things right now, yeah?

 

[DarkMagicianGirl]

I refuse to ever buy a keycard game. Also that's pretty crappy for them to release it as 2 separate full price games

Exactly, unless they straight up don't give me any other option other than key card, I will always buy a normal game card. I even bought a few Switch 1 versions of games because they were the only way to get a normal game card. It's crazy that they would sell the games at full price too, considering the fact that the most recent game in the pair (Octopath 2) came out 3 YEARS AGO, it should be cheaper. Unless it's a SMTV/SMTV:V situation, I'm not buying a game TWICE.