Sony ending physical disc production in 2028, going digital only

To quote what I told @Stingy Perry, when he posted about this on my profile.
Since I think they believe this will help stop people from pirating their games.

"Digital only...
(Looks at SONY, then to the terabytes upon terabytes of "legally acquired" games)"
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MBG made a great video about this, pointing how misleading is Sony being when they're saying they're just following trends.

 
I'm just gonna leave this here because physical games that I've grew up with have sentimental value that no major company can place of price tag on or ask for my personal information, nor can they take away each story we have created with our favorite games.

Same, i have a copy of star ocean the second story on ps1, i remember bringing it home after buying it, or when my now deceased father bought me a sega genesis, i still remember the lighting of that area of the store was on the fritz so it had a dim lighting to it and wood paneling lol, or the time i found a copy of final fantasy 3 (6) at a flea market near the food court and my dad gave it to me as a early birthday gift.

So many memories of my father are linked to my video game collection, the fact that the next generation won't have that sadden's me to no end.
 
Sonly just wants control. Control of products, control of prices control of consumers. If consumers have only ONE place to buy games, then Sony controls what you spend and how.

Variable pricing! $100 to your wife, $150 to you!
Recently announced price increase for PS+!
Sales? Why offer sales?! You can't buy elsewhere, so you're gonna spend what we tell you to spend!
Oh, boo hoo, the license for that $100+$1,500 DLC game you've been leasing from us for 4-years just expired...YOINK! You can't play that ever again! Nya nyah!
Refund? Why would we give you a refund? You played that game for 15-minutes! It's used data! Ew! Good luck reselling data, now lick our feet, maggot!

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This is our future.
 
I really dont understand why people still say "buy digital games". We dont "buy" them, we renting them. Digital purchases is not the the ownership by any means.

It's literally in a dictionary of the word ownership: " The ultimate and exclusive right conferred by a lawful claim or title, and subject to certain restrictions to enjoy, occupy, possess, rent, sell, use, give away, or even destroy an item of property".
With digital stuff we cant do any of that.
If Sony or anyone else wanna go full digital, Ok. But maybe then they could make some changes in digital ownership?But my guess that they would do everything in their power to stop that from heapaning and tightening this digital leash on our necks even harder.

PS: sry for any English grammar error.
 
Hell, most of my games are digital, to be honest. As someone mentioned a page or so back, I am first and foremost a PC gamer.... Since most PCs don't even have optical drives anymore, almost my entire library.. legal and otherwise, is digital.
I haven't bought a console game, new anyway, that wasn't in a thrift store or pawn shop since the PS2 era.

So, this isn't a big "oh no!" moment for me, and I assume for a lot of others as well.

More often than not, I raise the Jolly Roger and set sail to find the games I want.
I didn't get the nickname "Cap'n" here because I blow wads of cash on games, but I digress....

This has been a long, LONG time coming anyway, and I'm just surprised it really took this long. I honestly thought by the time of the PS4, all consoles would be fully digital. Yes, it sucks because that means no more physical releases, which will also kill off special bundles that include art books, little figures, or the like. That truly is a loss, but there's not much we can do about it.

At the end of the day, it's going to happen with every system... it's not a question of if, but when. Hell, movies and music didn't die off because of digital distribution. While there are digital files to be loaded, there will still be those who wear tricorn hats, sail the seven digital seas, and share the treasure among all who want to have and enjoy it.
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I don't think it's surprising to anyone that physical is getting dropped. This is what all the media companies want. They don't want you to own any of it either, and are actively lobbying against ownership. And instead of passing on savings from not producing physical media, they will charge more and pocket the extra. Eliminating the secondhand market for console games is going to make things suck even harder.

I'm not sure piracy or PC gaming in general is even going to be a stable alternative. If PC components don't go down in price, we may end up living in a world where consumer PC's don't really exist. The current price surge is already choking out the smaller companies who can't take the hit and further consolidating the industry into a few large companies. It's hard to pirate when you don't have the hardware for it, and your current hardware won't last forever. I hope I'm being overly pessimistic, but things seem pretty bleak overall for videogames and the world in general.
 
I don't think it's surprising to anyone that physical is getting dropped. This is what all the media companies want. They don't want you to own any of it either, and are actively lobbying against ownership. And instead of passing on savings from not producing physical media, they will charge more and pocket the extra. Eliminating the secondhand market for console games is going to make things suck even harder.

I'm not sure piracy or PC gaming in general is even going to be a stable alternative. If PC components don't go down in price, we may end up living in a world where consumer PC's don't really exist. The current price surge is already choking out the smaller companies who can't take the hit and further consolidating the industry into a few large companies. It's hard to pirate when you don't have the hardware for it, and your current hardware won't last forever. I hope I'm being overly pessimistic, but things seem pretty bleak overall for videogames and the world in general.
Prices will eventually go down. It may take four or five years, but they will come down, and there will always be older hardware as well.... However, their keeping people from buying or really being able to afford physical media is kind of a double edged sword.

True, they can yank it away from people who "bought" or rented it rather, but if they keep taking away things people "own" and make it too pricey to get, people won't buy. Sure, there will be the well-off YouTubers and others who will buy it, but their sales will plummet. When people have to choose between a video game system or movie service and having enough money for food and rent, they definitely won't be buying Sony's or Microsoft's latest locked down mid tier PCs, resulting in no console sales and no game sales.

If they try to go the Game Pass only route, that also runs into money issues. Some people can't afford to waste even the extra $15-20 (or however much it is now) a month it costs, along with the ten or more other subscriptions they need just to watch a complete show or the movies they want. It's almost to the point where it might all just crash and burn.....

When and if that happens, our old games will still be here... still playable, still ours... legally or otherwise.
 
Discs are completely pointless,
every single game has updates, patches, and/or DLC at some point
physical copies won't be great since you need internet to connect to update.
idk man i don't understand physical copies anymore, i have like 500 ps4/5 games
i can't imagine having 500 game cases.
it was a pain when i had like 40 dreamcast games and like 300 PC CDs
i converted all of that into digital form. (kept the discs of course)
i'm very happy to have a digital library, and not messing with cases, scratching discs, and other BS that could happen
wild take considering this is a retro forum.
 
Hell, most of my games are digital, to be honest. As someone mentioned a page or so back, I am first and foremost a PC gamer.... Since most PCs don't even have optical drives anymore, almost my entire library.. legal and otherwise, is digital.
I haven't bought a console game, new anyway, that wasn't in a thrift store or pawn shop since the PS2 era.

So, this isn't a big "oh no!" moment for me, and I assume for a lot of others as well.

More often than not, I raise the Jolly Roger and set sail to find the games I want.
I didn't get the nickname "Cap'n" here because I blow wads of cash on games, but I digress....

This has been a long, LONG time coming anyway, and I'm just surprised it really took this long. I honestly thought by the time of the PS4, all consoles would be fully digital. Yes, it sucks because that means no more physical releases, which will also kill off special bundles that include art books, little figures, or the like. That truly is a loss, but there's not much we can do about it.

At the end of the day, it's going to happen with every system... it's not a question of if, but when. Hell, movies and music didn't die off because of digital distribution. While there are digital files to be loaded, there will still be those who wear tricorn hats, sail the seven digital seas, and share the treasure among all who want to have and enjoy it.
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Unless it's Sony exclusive. In which case there's no other market to pirate from, nor a means to play on.
 
Yes they're going to go after pirate sites but here's the thing about pirate sites, they're like the Lernaean Hydra, cut off one head two appear in its place.
 
Yes they're going to go after pirate sites but here's the thing about pirate sites, they're like the Lernaean Hydra, cut off one head two appear in its place.
Probably not just that. They'll use operating system level digital id to control what you're doing on the Internet. Either by blocking pirate sites or by imposing punitive fees on people or both.

The government and companies ate going to use digital ids for all kinds of nefarious purposes. Including blocking mature digital games if you don't prove you're an adult. Even purchased ones.
 
Probably not just that. They'll use operating system level digital id to control what you're doing on the Internet. Either by blocking pirate sites or by imposing punitive fees on people or both.

The government and companies ate going to use digital ids for all kinds of nefarious purposes. Including blocking mature digital games if you don't prove you're an adult. Even purchased ones.
Digital id won't work for anyone with knowledge and will enough to get around it.
That being said i wouldn't doubt normies would get caught by it, but with linux it's virtually impossible to implement.
 
Discs are completely pointless,
every single game has updates, patches, and/or DLC at some point
physical copies won't be great since you need internet to connect to update.
idk man i don't understand physical copies anymore, i have like 500 ps4/5 games
i can't imagine having 500 game cases.
it was a pain when i had like 40 dreamcast games and like 300 PC CDs
i converted all of that into digital form. (kept the discs of course)
i'm very happy to have a digital library, and not messing with cases, scratching discs, and other BS that could happen.
I disagree that discs are pointless. You've bought into the BS these greedy ass companies want you to believe. Its a matter of ownership. I don't mind having something like Minecraft or Rocket League as a digital copy. A major release like RE9 is something I'd prefer to own a physical copy of. I was able to let my brother borrow it after I beat it because I physically own the game. Its mine to do with as I please. I could trade it toward another game, sell it, or let someone borrow it. With a digital copy of RE9, I can't do any of that.
 
Not enough people buy discs for movies and games to justify the supply chain.

Retooling their factory infrastructure for microlenses will keep Sony alive longer, so they can continue making all the shitty games you wouldn't buy or play anyway.

Digital id won't work for anyone with knowledge and will enough to get around it.
That being said i wouldn't doubt normies would get caught by it, but with linux it's virtually impossible to implement.

Linux distros like Arch are being self censored for even openly discussing the mechanisms around implementation. Unelected bureaucrats around the world are malicious, want more control, and they have the means to ram through policy shifts that impose liabilities on maintainers, users, etc.

Impossible goals are typically just gravy train meal tickets paid for by taxpayers.
 
Digital id won't work for anyone with knowledge and will enough to get around it.
I think the government plan is to force websites to ask for it. And barr you don't provide a digital id.

In my country they are already asking for personal details when registering an internet domain with the national extension. They're turning on the heat slowly.

You'll be able to provide a fake online id, but that'll be falsification and punished by law. And you'll probably be able to not ask for an online id, but if you provide "unsafe" content they'll slap you a cumulative punitive fee to force you to comply.
 
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What is the work around for this happening to an online only console?
Contact Sony and lose it.

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@extermist threaten you won't buy anything else in the platform and ditch the console for the PC and Steam. It will make support work better.

It unscrewed my recent problem with Nintendo support almost immediately.

Given how unpopular PlayStation is right now, it will probably work.
 
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Due to high demand, there is a limit of 1 per order.

AHHHHH

Scalpers are going to do business.

That's the other downside to all of this.
PS5 disc drives are going to be in incredibly high demand.

And I don't even want to think about what will happen to the used prices of PS5 physical games.
They'll skyrocket.
I'd like to point 2 things out.
First is some evidence has come out that sony's numbers of "digital vs physical" heavily favoring digital is including ps plus, dlc, indies with no physical copies and microtransactions, basically when physical was a option, it appears to favor physical by 50-75% most of the time depending on the game (third party games were more likely to be closer to 50%, though i'd like to point out these games were also on pc, which muddies the waters, ps5 exclusives heavily favored physical).

Second, sony never actually restocked the disc drive, they "offered" it as a justification for the ps5 pro to not have a disc drive and calm sentiment to a extent, but never intended to actually allow it to get too far into the wild.

Sony's been planning this for years, they just finally cut the line.
Not enough people buy discs for movies and games to justify the supply chain.

Retooling their factory infrastructure for microlenses will keep Sony alive longer, so they can continue making all the shitty games you wouldn't buy or play anyway.



Linux distros like Arch are being self censored for even openly discussing the mechanisms around implementation. Unelected bureaucrats around the world are malicious, want more control, and they have the means to ram through policy shifts that impose liabilities on maintainers, users, etc.

Impossible goals are typically just gravy train meal tickets paid for by taxpayers.
First half, look above.
Second half.
Arch is actually being pretty neutral on this, but yes some distros, namely ubuntu, pop_os and red hat/fedora are very much looking into implementing this while others have outright refused, i know this guy's kind of disliked in some circles due to his open neutrality of software stance, but brian lunduke has made a list of distros and operating systems that either intend to/already have implemented age verify, and ones that refuse to implement it:

Of these none of the arch distros have said they will implement age verify with only cachy os being iffy on it, another distro that is not listed here is open mandriva, though from my understanding they don't intend to implement it, they may offer a version for areas where it is required and thus don't fit the rules of the list.
Steam-os by it's very nature already has age verify as it requires you to log into your steam account to set it up but isn't added to the list yet.

While gentoo hasn't made a official statement, by it's very nature it would be literally impossible to implement it by the gentoo team, it would have to be implemented by the user, this is likely the case for base arch linux as well.
I also must mention that the colorado and california laws specifically have carve-outs for not requiring linux to do so in it's law due to the nature of the operating systems and the MASSIVE problems it would cause in the business and workstation sectors.
I think the government plan is to force websites to ask for it. And barr you don't provide a digital id.

In my country they are already asking for personal details when registering an internet domain with the national extension. They're turning on the heat slowly.

You'll be able to provide a fake online id, but that'll be falsification and punished by law. And you'll probably be able to not ask for an online id, but if you provide "unsafe" content they'll slap you a cumulative punitive fee to force you to comply.
They can try, but as the uk law proved, it doesn't work at the phone level, which is a locked down system, it's going to be 100x harder at the pc level, probably to the point of impossible.

I'm sure they will try and make it illegal, just like piracy is illegal, but it's a beast they can't control and enforcing it will just piss more people off while 100 more fabricate it due to the one person being railroaded.

Alot of sites will probably start hosting their servers in nations that won't implement this, which the host nations also don't want because it will cost them tax revenue.

Basically they are trying to push as much as they can without tipping over the glass, if they push too hard a "dark internet" similar to the dark web will form where the government's will have absolutely no control, so they can't push so hard that they reach china's levels without literally blocking all communication outside their nations, which in turn would cause well, what i mentioned above.
 
They can try, but as the uk law proved, it doesn't work at the phone level, which is a locked down system, it's going to be 100x harder at the pc level, probably to the point of impossible.
They're going to try and ban or at least heavily regulate VPNs in the UK, which is how people have been getting around this stuff. I doubt they'll succeed as even China hasn't been able to do that. I just mean they won't stop trying even if it's borderline impossible.
 
They're going to try and ban or at least heavily regulate VPNs in the UK, which is how people have been getting around this stuff. I doubt they'll succeed as even China hasn't been able to do that. I just mean they won't stop trying even if it's borderline impossible.
The thing about vpn's is you can legitimately make your own if you don't mind spending the money on it, vpn's are impossible to stop without completely changing the structure of the internet.

That said the uk's case is desperation, they are trying to cover it up but the uk is, at least in some areas, on the brink of civil war i've been hearing from some people over there, not saying this is true or false but it's definitely bad, but if that's the case it's a knee jerk reaction to control the conversation but if it's at this point it's probably too late as now you have groups like the IRA reactivated.

But i need to stop there, that's politics, but i have to mention what i see exactly happening in the uk.
 

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