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Poor poor Infinity Train, original premise, very good soundtrack, great acting, a good variety of protagonists, decently graphic deaths when they happened, got cancelled for not having a "child entry point" whatever that means

 
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Transformers Animated
was an excellent late-2000s action series developed by the same team behind the equally-excellent Ben 10. The series had gorgeous (but controversial) character designs, some truly phenomenal writing, and a very in-depth story arc that spanned across each of its three seasons.

Unfortunately, the success of the 2007 Transformers movie and Hasbro execs wanting more control over the brand got the show cancelled before the last season could be produced, leading to several open plot remaining by the final episode. There's actually a ton of pre-production material for the fourth season available, and the show's cast have even done live readings of un-produced scripts, but the Transformers brand has moved far past this series, and the time has gone. :cry:



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Cybersix
is one of the finest pieces of late-90s superhero animation available, and a massive cult classic for anyone who grew up in Canada during the turn of the century (i.e. me). A Japanese-Canadian co-production with animation by TMS, this unique series starred a robotic heroine who fought sci-fi monsters with her jaguar sidekick at night, but by day worked as a flipped-gender high school teacher in a quaint seaside town. The series had elements of adventure, mystery, and romance, with an extremely strong supporting cast and gorgeous animation. (The opening cinematic is supremely nostalgic.)

The show got great ratings and had the funding for a second season ready to go, but extreme hostility between TMS and the production team in Canada ended the series at 13 episodes. (Reports of what exactly happened are vague and biased, but apparently TMS was very poor at keeping up with the Canadian team's schedule, leading to huge delays and overshot budgets.) It's seen some interest in recent years thanks to a Blu-Ray release by Discotek, but the rights to continue it have long expired, as have the lives of the original IP creators. :cry:

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Spicy City
was the very first American-animated series aimed at adults, created by the ever-controversial Ralph Bakshi (Fritz the Cat, Cool World, Coonskin, etc.) for HBO. This show is a personal favourite of mine – an anthology series of neo-noir detective stories set in futuristic worlds, strung together by a Jessica Rabbit-like host. Episodes are heavy on the sex (this is HBO, remember!), but also have some very engaging mystery plots centred around technology and the internet. Characters don't re-appear outside of the episode they're introduced in, so each story is like a half-hour movie, and they're all executed with a variety of experimental art styles.

As is common with Bakshi's work, the HBO executives hated the production team he spearheaded, which, among various homeless and destitute people pulled from the streets of Brookyln, also included his son as head writer. (Whoops!) Again, ratings were high and a second season had been green-lit, but Bakshi's refusal to change his team (and, by the same token, the show's entire creative engine) got the series canned at only six episodes. This show is really tough to find, but if you can, I recommend it heartily. I'm still holding out for a Blu-Ray. :cry:

I'll doubtlessly remember more of these shows over the next few days, so if you're wanting more walls of text from Gorse on old cartoons nobody remembers, stay tuned!
 
This thread currently has my favourite title on RetroGameTalk. My choices:

TransformersAnimatedPoster.jpg
Transformers Animated
was an excellent late-2000s action series developed by the same team behind the equally-excellent Ben 10. The series had gorgeous (but controversial) character designs, some truly phenomenal writing, and a very in-depth story arc that spanned across each of its three seasons.

Unfortunately, the success of the 2007 Transformers movie and Hasbro execs wanting more control over the brand got the show cancelled before the last season could be produced, leading to several open plot remaining by the final episode. There's actually a ton of pre-production material for the fourth season available, and the show's cast have even done live readings of un-produced scripts, but the Transformers brand has moved far past this series, and the time has gone. :cry:



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Cybersix
is one of the finest pieces of late-90s superhero animation available, and a massive cult classic for anyone who grew up in Canada during the turn of the century (i.e. me). A Japanese-Canadian co-production with animation by TMS, this unique series starred a robotic heroine who fought sci-fi monsters with her jaguar sidekick at night, but by day worked as a flipped-gender high school teacher in a quaint seaside town. The series had elements of adventure, mystery, and romance, with an extremely strong supporting cast and gorgeous animation. (The opening cinematic is supremely nostalgic.)

The show got great ratings and had the funding for a second season ready to go, but extreme hostility between TMS and the production team in Canada ended the series at 13 episodes. (Reports of what exactly happened are vague and biased, but apparently TMS was very poor at keeping up with the Canadian team's schedule, leading to huge delays and overshot budgets.) It's seen some interest in recent years thanks to a Blu-Ray release by Discotek, but the rights to continue it have long expired, as have the lives of the original IP creators. :cry:

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Spicy City
was the very first American-animated series aimed at adults, created by the ever-controversial Ralph Bakshi (Fritz the Cat, Cool World, Coonskin, etc.) for HBO. This show is a personal favourite of mine – an anthology series of neo-noir detective stories set in futuristic worlds, strung together by a Jessica Rabbit-like host. Episodes are heavy on the sex (this is HBO, remember!), but also have some very engaging mystery plots centred around technology and the internet. Characters don't re-appear outside of the episode they're introduced in, so each story is like a half-hour movie, and they're all executed with a variety of experimental art styles.

As is common with Bakshi's work, the HBO executives hated the production team he spearheaded, which, among various homeless and destitute people pulled from the streets of Brookyln, also included his son as head writer. (Whoops!) Again, ratings were high and a second season had been green-lit, but Bakshi's refusal to change his team (and, by the same token, the show's entire creative engine) got the series canned at only six episodes. This show is really tough to find, but if you can, I recommend it heartily. I'm still holding out for a Blu-Ray. :cry:

I'll doubtlessly remember more of these shows over the next few days, so if you're wanting more walls of text from Gorse on old cartoons nobody remembers, stay tuned!
Oh hoo good picks, Cibersix was very popular in europe too for that matter! Thats where the comics deubuted after all ::biggrin

I adore Bakshi and his attitude, I should give Spicy City a rewatch, I was watching coonskins just last week! The world needs more people who make no compromises on their principles. One of my favorite movie is the recobbled cut mk4 of The Thief and The Cobbler so that should give you an idea of my taste :p

I didnt know about Transformers animated, but you know what its story reminds me of?
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It has my avorite animated spiderman in both voice acting (voiced by young Revolver Ocelot) and personality, it focused a lot on Parker's personal relationship;his friends, girlfriends, aunt, how spiderman gets in the way of them...
GREAT voice for Doctor Octopus too he sounds like db kai freezer, great intro; ended on a cliffhanger with hints for season 3 but the effing mcu dropped and the disney buying marvel and they made their own inferior show..


I can say the same for
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By far their best animated version especially captain america, same voice actors as marvel vs capcom 3 the captain is also voiced by BJ Blazkowitch! Again they focused a lot on the character's personalities and different ways of approaching things (and actually made iron man flawed instead of always right), I'm also very happy with how they did Hulk and the antagonists.. spectacular spiderman shows up too!
Only problem is it's got some bs like not saying "kill" but still I'd have loved loved loved to see it continued, it also ended on a cliffhanger because the marvel started being a movie company first and a comic books company second

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The Crtitic, made bt some of the simpsons writers is very different from its yellow cousin; it's about an actual ugly loser, but it's a rich educated sexually frustrated punchablee loser! Thats something you dont see often! It's much more specific to 1990s nyc and its one of the first shows that relied on referencial humor this often; it's way way meaner than the simpsons but also hilarious in a very unique way that's hard to explain, the whole thing is on youtube that's how little fox cares about it. Season 2 is not as good, I really dont like the redesigns, but still a fun watch with some great episodes
His speech on the English for Cab Drivers channel is still relevant
 
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Cybersix is one of the finest pieces of late-90s superhero animation available, and a massive cult classic for anyone who grew up in Canada during the turn of the century (i.e. me). A Japanese-Canadian co-production with animation by TMS, this unique series starred a robotic heroine who fought sci-fi monsters with her jaguar sidekick at night, but by day worked as a flipped-gender high school teacher in a quaint seaside town. The series had elements of adventure, mystery, and romance, with an extremely strong supporting cast and gorgeous animation. (The opening cinematic is supremely nostalgic.)

I actually came here with the intention of mentioning Cybersix. Great, great show.

I have a few others I watched and wished had more by the end of it, though.

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Green Lantern: The Animated Series is a wonderful show that had such a good Red Lantern representative that I was flabbergasted to find out that Razer actually had no comic precedence. It's a shame, especially, since it seemed like they would have gone into the Yellow Corps for a season three, since season two set up Sinestro (and I also wanted more from my edgy boy).

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Similarly, Batman: The Brave and The Bold seemed to have been entering a cool story arc. Equinox was a fun villain that I wanted to see more of, no matter how many "humping the shark" criticisms it faced.

Transformers Animated was an excellent late-2000s action series developed by the same team behind the equally-excellent Ben 10. The series had gorgeous (but controversial) character designs, some truly phenomenal writing, and a very in-depth story arc that spanned across each of its three seasons.
That's probably super-valid, but I haven't seen so much of that show and Transformers Prime was awesome but probably wouldn't have been made if Animated aired for longer. I, especially, never would have had my love for Smokescreen (He should have become a Prime) and Arcee.
 
Sonic SatAM deserved a third season and was brutally cancelled in favor of Power Rangers. Nothing against Power Rangers, but they could have axed something else instead.
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I forgot one! Moonbeam City, all in all, was a pretty terrible show. It's a tongue-in-cheek animated parody of Miami Vice set in a retro-futuristic 80s, centring on the trials and tribulations of a faux-cool officer and his supporting team. The writing was really dumb and sophomoric – imagine the lowest lows of early-2010s Comedy Central dialogue, where that insufferable millennial, internet-influenced tone was just starting out – and I don't think the voice acting was very good, either. (It's actually really jarring – none of the characters sound at all like how they look, leading to some weird disconnects whenever they're speaking.)

The show had gorgeous visuals based on pop artist Patrick Nagel, though, and you could tell the animation team really cared about the world they were building. The titular city is beautifully-designed and animated with a heavy synthwave flair, and a ton of little details are introduced and continue throughout the show's run. The characters look and emote great, too – they're really cool, and while there isn't a ton of motion, the way they move when they talk is eye-catching and funny. The soundtrack is awesome, too – very synth-y, and upbeat, which serves a comedy-action show well.

It was canned after 10 episodes, which I can't disagree with, because it was honestly quite bad, but gosh darn it – that artwork deserved better! If I were in charge of reviving this, I'd have all the writers blacklisted and shuffle the VAs. I'd recommend Moonbeam City, but only with the sound turned off.

Sonic SatAM deserved a third season and was brutally cancelled in favor of Power Rangers.
Ironic, because now the Power Rangers show has been cancelled and Sonic's doing better than ever on TV. TAKE THAT, HEIM SABAN!!!!
 
This thread currently has my favourite title on RetroGameTalk. My choices:

TransformersAnimatedPoster.jpg
Transformers Animated
was an excellent late-2000s action series developed by the same team behind the equally-excellent Ben 10. The series had gorgeous (but controversial) character designs, some truly phenomenal writing, and a very in-depth story arc that spanned across each of its three seasons.

Unfortunately, the success of the 2007 Transformers movie and Hasbro execs wanting more control over the brand got the show cancelled before the last season could be produced, leading to several open plot remaining by the final episode. There's actually a ton of pre-production material for the fourth season available, and the show's cast have even done live readings of un-produced scripts, but the Transformers brand has moved far past this series, and the time has gone. :cry:



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Cybersix
is one of the finest pieces of late-90s superhero animation available, and a massive cult classic for anyone who grew up in Canada during the turn of the century (i.e. me). A Japanese-Canadian co-production with animation by TMS, this unique series starred a robotic heroine who fought sci-fi monsters with her jaguar sidekick at night, but by day worked as a flipped-gender high school teacher in a quaint seaside town. The series had elements of adventure, mystery, and romance, with an extremely strong supporting cast and gorgeous animation. (The opening cinematic is supremely nostalgic.)

The show got great ratings and had the funding for a second season ready to go, but extreme hostility between TMS and the production team in Canada ended the series at 13 episodes. (Reports of what exactly happened are vague and biased, but apparently TMS was very poor at keeping up with the Canadian team's schedule, leading to huge delays and overshot budgets.) It's seen some interest in recent years thanks to a Blu-Ray release by Discotek, but the rights to continue it have long expired, as have the lives of the original IP creators. :cry:

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Spicy City
was the very first American-animated series aimed at adults, created by the ever-controversial Ralph Bakshi (Fritz the Cat, Cool World, Coonskin, etc.) for HBO. This show is a personal favourite of mine – an anthology series of neo-noir detective stories set in futuristic worlds, strung together by a Jessica Rabbit-like host. Episodes are heavy on the sex (this is HBO, remember!), but also have some very engaging mystery plots centred around technology and the internet. Characters don't re-appear outside of the episode they're introduced in, so each story is like a half-hour movie, and they're all executed with a variety of experimental art styles.

As is common with Bakshi's work, the HBO executives hated the production team he spearheaded, which, among various homeless and destitute people pulled from the streets of Brookyln, also included his son as head writer. (Whoops!) Again, ratings were high and a second season had been green-lit, but Bakshi's refusal to change his team (and, by the same token, the show's entire creative engine) got the series canned at only six episodes. This show is really tough to find, but if you can, I recommend it heartily. I'm still holding out for a Blu-Ray. :cry:

I'll doubtlessly remember more of these shows over the next few days, so if you're wanting more walls of text from Gorse on old cartoons nobody remembers, stay tuned!
Transformers has been my 'go to' for modern update of an old property. It came out when I was initially studying and I was always wishing I got to work on something with that level of respect for every era that came before. I wish I got a copy of the almanac when it was around with all the season 4 details.
 
This thread currently has my favourite title on RetroGameTalk. My choices:

TransformersAnimatedPoster.jpg
Transformers Animated
was an excellent late-2000s action series developed by the same team behind the equally-excellent Ben 10. The series had gorgeous (but controversial) character designs, some truly phenomenal writing, and a very in-depth story arc that spanned across each of its three seasons.

Unfortunately, the success of the 2007 Transformers movie and Hasbro execs wanting more control over the brand got the show cancelled before the last season could be produced, leading to several open plot remaining by the final episode. There's actually a ton of pre-production material for the fourth season available, and the show's cast have even done live readings of un-produced scripts, but the Transformers brand has moved far past this series, and the time has gone. :cry:



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Cybersix
is one of the finest pieces of late-90s superhero animation available, and a massive cult classic for anyone who grew up in Canada during the turn of the century (i.e. me). A Japanese-Canadian co-production with animation by TMS, this unique series starred a robotic heroine who fought sci-fi monsters with her jaguar sidekick at night, but by day worked as a flipped-gender high school teacher in a quaint seaside town. The series had elements of adventure, mystery, and romance, with an extremely strong supporting cast and gorgeous animation. (The opening cinematic is supremely nostalgic.)

The show got great ratings and had the funding for a second season ready to go, but extreme hostility between TMS and the production team in Canada ended the series at 13 episodes. (Reports of what exactly happened are vague and biased, but apparently TMS was very poor at keeping up with the Canadian team's schedule, leading to huge delays and overshot budgets.) It's seen some interest in recent years thanks to a Blu-Ray release by Discotek, but the rights to continue it have long expired, as have the lives of the original IP creators. :cry:

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Spicy City
was the very first American-animated series aimed at adults, created by the ever-controversial Ralph Bakshi (Fritz the Cat, Cool World, Coonskin, etc.) for HBO. This show is a personal favourite of mine – an anthology series of neo-noir detective stories set in futuristic worlds, strung together by a Jessica Rabbit-like host. Episodes are heavy on the sex (this is HBO, remember!), but also have some very engaging mystery plots centred around technology and the internet. Characters don't re-appear outside of the episode they're introduced in, so each story is like a half-hour movie, and they're all executed with a variety of experimental art styles.

As is common with Bakshi's work, the HBO executives hated the production team he spearheaded, which, among various homeless and destitute people pulled from the streets of Brookyln, also included his son as head writer. (Whoops!) Again, ratings were high and a second season had been green-lit, but Bakshi's refusal to change his team (and, by the same token, the show's entire creative engine) got the series canned at only six episodes. This show is really tough to find, but if you can, I recommend it heartily. I'm still holding out for a Blu-Ray. :cry:

I'll doubtlessly remember more of these shows over the next few days, so if you're wanting more walls of text from Gorse on old cartoons nobody remembers, stay tuned!
Oh my god I never seen anyone bring up Spicy City this is a first time for me. I don't remember how I learned about despite maybe being on a Bakshi binge around that time. Makes me so sad the video quality of that show is really bad, kind of surprise it didn't become lost media.

I feel like my choices are old stuff around that time like MTV's Downtown and Mission Hill but part of me feel like they should stay the way their are.
It kind of makes me worried for another Clone High thing where the creators changed so much from the original show that it's an energy you unable to replicate again.
 
Poor poor Infinity Train, original premise, very good soundtrack, great acting, a good variety of protagonists, decently graphic deaths when they happened, got cancelled for not having a "child entry point" whatever that means

Painnnnnnnnnnnnnn I think they just wanted to do one last season and it sounded so good too. Despite the tone being different from other CN cartoons right now I wonder if part of the reason it was cancelled was having adult main characters in the last season.
Idk I feel like there is not a lot of kid cartoons with adult main characters and I always find those cartoons interesting, but I guess networks get worried the kids are unable to relate to them.
Spongebob is like the only running kid cartoon with all adult main characters but Spongebob himself being childlike and non-humanoid probably benefits it.

Even then Infinity Train always seem like it would very successful as an YA novel, I can totally see kids picking that up from the book store. I also thought the divorce of Tuilp's parents would resonate to kids going though that...

But I guess that and it's darker content really doesn't fit with CN wanting to make cartoons that feel like they aiming for a preschooler age for some reason. They probably saw how huge Bluey became and wanted to aim for that.
 
Painnnnnnnnnnnnnn I think they just wanted to do one last season and it sounded so good too. Despite the tone being different from other CN cartoons right now I wonder if part of the reason it was cancelled was having adult main characters in the last season.
Idk I feel like there is not a lot of kid cartoons with adult main characters and I always find those cartoons interesting, but I guess networks get worried the kids are unable to relate to them.
Spongebob is like the only running kid cartoon with all adult main characters but Spongebob himself being childlike and non-humanoid probably benefits it.

Even then Infinity Train always seem like it would very successful as an YA novel, I can totally see kids picking that up from the book store. I also thought the divorce of Tuilp's parents would resonate to kids going though that...

But I guess that and it's darker content really doesn't fit with CN wanting to make cartoons that feel like they aiming for a preschooler age for some reason. They probably saw how huge Bluey became and wanted to aim for that.
In recall reading infinity train had no "child entry point", aka, not enough braindead skibidi rizz shit
Kids always loved shonen and darker stuff but I guess cartoon network isnt interested in it no more, that genre is all but extinct in the west and now that ai's here I dont see that getting any better. I'm looking forward to cartoon focused channels turning into cocomelon unless its a reboot

It doesnt help that new cartoonists stubbornly keep trying to get hired by netflix or move to LA and to be with cartoon network instead of moving to youtube.
Ive seen so many twitter profiles going "IM A STORYBOARD ARTIST! HIRE ME!" as if theres not a milion other accounts like them, especially now that studios will be adopting ai they're never giving studios any reason to hire them

Genny Tartakovski (dexter's lab, samurai jack) said they internet's where its at nowdays

"There's no advice. It's unpredictable. You don't know where it's going to come from. Netflix starts a huge, enormous studio. They hire pretty much almost everybody. And then very quickly they decide, "You know what? This doesn't work for us. We're going to go a different direction." And then they shutter it. And there's no advice I can give from that. I would never see that coming.

If I was young right now, I would be making my own shows and putting them up on YouTube or Instagram or wherever and trying to get an audience that way. The Amazing Digital Circus or Hazbin Hotel , and all those shows are great stories as far as somebody just doing it independently. I think even the guys from Smiling Friends would just make short films themselves independently, and then they came up with a show together. I think that's a healthier way to do your own things right now. And maybe have a full-time job that you're doing too. And then after, do your own stuff. That's what I would be doing. I've been doing that throughout my whole career. When I'm at a place where I'm unhappy, on my own time, I develop my next thing. You have to be aggressive in that way and make your own destiny, I guess, without sounding too cheesy."
 
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Gargoyles, without a doubt.

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Amazing story, great graphics, morale and philosophical questions, even sex appeal. Alas Disney kicked out Greg Weisman out and then did the horrible Season 3 'Goliath Chronicles' of which has maybe 1-2 good episodes before they cancelled the series.

The series did enjoy a continuation under the original plot/plans, though via of Fan Fiction.
 
In recall reading infinity train had no "child entry point", aka, not enough braindead skibidi rizz shit
Kids always loved shonen and darker stuff but I guess cartoon network isnt interested in it no more, that genre is all but extinct in the west and now that ai's here I dont see that getting any better. I'm looking forward to cartoon focused channels turning into cocomelon unless its a reboot

It doesnt help that new cartoonists stubbornly keep trying to get hired by netflix or move to LA and to be with cartoon network instead of moving to youtube.
Ive seen so many twitter profiles going "IM A STORYBOARD ARTIST! HIRE ME!" as if theres not a milion other accounts like them, especially now that studios will be adopting ai they're never giving studios any reason to hire them

Genny Tartakovski (dexter's lab, samurai jack) said they internet's where its at nowdays

"There's no advice. It's unpredictable. You don't know where it's going to come from. Netflix starts a huge, enormous studio. They hire pretty much almost everybody. And then very quickly they decide, "You know what? This doesn't work for us. We're going to go a different direction." And then they shutter it. And there's no advice I can give from that. I would never see that coming.

If I was young right now, I would be making my own shows and putting them up on YouTube or Instagram or wherever and trying to get an audience that way. The Amazing Digital Circus or Hazbin Hotel , and all those shows are great stories as far as somebody just doing it independently. I think even the guys from Smiling Friends would just make short films themselves independently, and then they came up with a show together. I think that's a healthier way to do your own things right now. And maybe have a full-time job that you're doing too. And then after, do your own stuff. That's what I would be doing. I've been doing that throughout my whole career. When I'm at a place where I'm unhappy, on my own time, I develop my next thing. You have to be aggressive in that way and make your own destiny, I guess, without sounding too cheesy."

Painnnnnnnnnnnnnn I think they just wanted to do one last season and it sounded so good too. Despite the tone being different from other CN cartoons right now I wonder if part of the reason it was cancelled was having adult main characters in the last season.
Idk I feel like there is not a lot of kid cartoons with adult main characters and I always find those cartoons interesting, but I guess networks get worried the kids are unable to relate to them.
Spongebob is like the only running kid cartoon with all adult main characters but Spongebob himself being childlike and non-humanoid probably benefits it.

Even then Infinity Train always seem like it would very successful as an YA novel, I can totally see kids picking that up from the book store. I also thought the divorce of Tuilp's parents would resonate to kids going though that...

But I guess that and it's darker content really doesn't fit with CN wanting to make cartoons that feel like they aiming for a preschooler age for some reason. They probably saw how huge Bluey became and wanted to aim for that.


And to elaborate on what I said before, new cartoonists also keep putting all their eggs into one basket

They quit everything to do art, thats foolish especially now that artist jobs are as volatile as ever. Like Tartakovski said they should get a full time job and then use their use their free time to work on their project on their own channel. (Off topic, I hate Mitchells vs the Machine because it straight up tells kids to throw everything to follow their dream as an artist, the dad didnt even tell her the dream was stupid he just said she should have a plan b)

All of youtube loves to shit on hazbin hotel since season 1 but regardless of one's personal opinions on the show itself; those guys did it right, they made it
They popularized doing pilots on youtube and showed the industry and the audience that it's a viable method of distribution


As for shows that died too soon..
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It was such a neat show..
Sure a couple epsodes irked me but for the most part it was lovely, funny, very well animated, used videogame references in a clever way wirthout it being hamfisted ("Chip Damage" as a superhero name is GENIOUS) and it got cut two seasons short or more, sigh
At the very least they knew in advance and it had a proper ending, also fantastic credits theme
 
DARIA. I wish the series had continued after her high school years. I would have liked to see her as an adult - apart from a few scenes in I can't remember which episode - and to see her in the corporate world, or perhaps as a self-employed freelancer.
There have been rumors of a reboot and then a spin-off in recent years, but I don't really know if it's going to happen, and in fact I'd rather not. The era and spirit are no longer the same as the late 90s/early 2000s, so the result would be catastrophic in my eyes.
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I've been eyeing this thread for a little while, I have to give in. I don't really watch much outside of anime these days but I really miss the era of cartoons that felt like they respected the audience. I'm not saying every show needs to be serious, gritty, or dark. But the more we get that treats the people like they are idiots or aren't capable of nuance the worse entertainment feels. And frankly, there's a lot of weird stuff in Anglo-American media nowadays that wouldn't fly here to put it politely.

I was glancing at what's on today since I have to babysit fairly regularly these days. Even my nieces don't really like what's on TV anymore, we've taken to watching everything from that ranges from Batman the Animated Series, Tokyo Mew Mew and Courage the Cowardly Dog. The last thing we watched was Avatar: Legend of Aang, it really made me despair there's very little like that anymore.

My pick for the thread is Batman Beyond.

 
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I've been eyeing this thread for a little while, I have to give in. I don't really watch much outside of anime these days but I really miss the era of cartoons that felt like they respected the audience. I'm not saying every show needs to be serious, gritty, or dark. But the more we get that treats the people like they are idiots or aren't capable of nuance the worse entertainment feels. And frankly, there's a lot of weird stuff in Anglo-American media nowadays that wouldn't fly here to put it politely.

I was glancing at what's on today since I have to babysit fairly regularly these days. Even my nieces don't really like what's on TV anymore, we've taken to watching everything from that ranges from Batman the Animated Series, Tokyo Mew Mew and Courage the Cowardly Dog. The last thing we watched was Avatar: Legend of Aang, it really made me despair there's very little like that anymore.

My pick for the thread is Batman Beyond.

Everything on the disney channel is really good these days (mostly cartoons). Especially the music! Most of it seems to be played by actual musicians and is just excellent.

most of it seems to be aimed at a younger audience but all of it is very thoughtfully written and executed. Definitely not for idiots
 
The Pirates of Dark Water

It ended without finishing the story and it was a totally kickass show. It even had a couple of video games.

The show takes place on the world of Mer and it was about a young pirate named Ren who had to collect the 13 Treasures of Rule in order to save the world from a sentient all-consuming black liquid called Dark Water. He had a crew, an ecomancer named Tula, an treasure hungry pirate named Ioz, and Niddler a "monkey-bird". Thier main antagonist was a vicious and power hungry pirate known as Bloth who wanted the treasures in order to control the Dark Water in a bid at world domination.

It had 21 episodes and was cancelled due to low ratings and low merchandise sales.

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