Poor poor Infinity Train, original premise, very good soundtrack, great acting, a good variety of protagonists, decently graphic deaths when they happened, got cancelled for not having a "child entry point" whatever that means
Oh hoo good picks, Cibersix was very popular in europe too for that matter! Thats where the comics deubuted after allThis thread currently has my favourite title on RetroGameTalk. My choices:
Transformers Animated was an excellent late-2000s action series developed by the same team behind the equally-excellent Ben 10. The series had gorgeous (but controversial) character designs, some truly phenomenal writing, and a very in-depth story arc that spanned across each of its three seasons.
Unfortunately, the success of the 2007 Transformers movie and Hasbro execs wanting more control over the brand got the show cancelled before the last season could be produced, leading to several open plot remaining by the final episode. There's actually a ton of pre-production material for the fourth season available, and the show's cast have even done live readings of un-produced scripts, but the Transformers brand has moved far past this series, and the time has gone.
Cybersix is one of the finest pieces of late-90s superhero animation available, and a massive cult classic for anyone who grew up in Canada during the turn of the century (i.e. me). A Japanese-Canadian co-production with animation by TMS, this unique series starred a robotic heroine who fought sci-fi monsters with her jaguar sidekick at night, but by day worked as a flipped-gender high school teacher in a quaint seaside town. The series had elements of adventure, mystery, and romance, with an extremely strong supporting cast and gorgeous animation. (The opening cinematic is supremely nostalgic.)
The show got great ratings and had the funding for a second season ready to go, but extreme hostility between TMS and the production team in Canada ended the series at 13 episodes. (Reports of what exactly happened are vague and biased, but apparently TMS was very poor at keeping up with the Canadian team's schedule, leading to huge delays and overshot budgets.) It's seen some interest in recent years thanks to a Blu-Ray release by Discotek, but the rights to continue it have long expired, as have the lives of the original IP creators.
Spicy City was the very first American-animated series aimed at adults, created by the ever-controversial Ralph Bakshi (Fritz the Cat, Cool World, Coonskin, etc.) for HBO. This show is a personal favourite of mine – an anthology series of neo-noir detective stories set in futuristic worlds, strung together by a Jessica Rabbit-like host. Episodes are heavy on the sex (this is HBO, remember!), but also have some very engaging mystery plots centred around technology and the internet. Characters don't re-appear outside of the episode they're introduced in, so each story is like a half-hour movie, and they're all executed with a variety of experimental art styles.
As is common with Bakshi's work, the HBO executives hated the production team he spearheaded, which, among various homeless and destitute people pulled from the streets of Brookyln, also included his son as head writer. (Whoops!) Again, ratings were high and a second season had been green-lit, but Bakshi's refusal to change his team (and, by the same token, the show's entire creative engine) got the series canned at only six episodes. This show is really tough to find, but if you can, I recommend it heartily. I'm still holding out for a Blu-Ray.
I'll doubtlessly remember more of these shows over the next few days, so if you're wanting more walls of text from Gorse on old cartoons nobody remembers, stay tuned!
Cybersix is one of the finest pieces of late-90s superhero animation available, and a massive cult classic for anyone who grew up in Canada during the turn of the century (i.e. me). A Japanese-Canadian co-production with animation by TMS, this unique series starred a robotic heroine who fought sci-fi monsters with her jaguar sidekick at night, but by day worked as a flipped-gender high school teacher in a quaint seaside town. The series had elements of adventure, mystery, and romance, with an extremely strong supporting cast and gorgeous animation. (The opening cinematic is supremely nostalgic.)
That's probably super-valid, but I haven't seen so much of that show and Transformers Prime was awesome but probably wouldn't have been made if Animated aired for longer. I, especially, never would have had my love for Smokescreen (He should have become a Prime) and Arcee.Transformers Animated was an excellent late-2000s action series developed by the same team behind the equally-excellent Ben 10. The series had gorgeous (but controversial) character designs, some truly phenomenal writing, and a very in-depth story arc that spanned across each of its three seasons.
Ironic, because now the Power Rangers show has been cancelled and Sonic's doing better than ever on TV. TAKE THAT, HEIM SABAN!!!!Sonic SatAM deserved a third season and was brutally cancelled in favor of Power Rangers.
Transformers has been my 'go to' for modern update of an old property. It came out when I was initially studying and I was always wishing I got to work on something with that level of respect for every era that came before. I wish I got a copy of the almanac when it was around with all the season 4 details.This thread currently has my favourite title on RetroGameTalk. My choices:
Transformers Animated was an excellent late-2000s action series developed by the same team behind the equally-excellent Ben 10. The series had gorgeous (but controversial) character designs, some truly phenomenal writing, and a very in-depth story arc that spanned across each of its three seasons.
Unfortunately, the success of the 2007 Transformers movie and Hasbro execs wanting more control over the brand got the show cancelled before the last season could be produced, leading to several open plot remaining by the final episode. There's actually a ton of pre-production material for the fourth season available, and the show's cast have even done live readings of un-produced scripts, but the Transformers brand has moved far past this series, and the time has gone.
Cybersix is one of the finest pieces of late-90s superhero animation available, and a massive cult classic for anyone who grew up in Canada during the turn of the century (i.e. me). A Japanese-Canadian co-production with animation by TMS, this unique series starred a robotic heroine who fought sci-fi monsters with her jaguar sidekick at night, but by day worked as a flipped-gender high school teacher in a quaint seaside town. The series had elements of adventure, mystery, and romance, with an extremely strong supporting cast and gorgeous animation. (The opening cinematic is supremely nostalgic.)
The show got great ratings and had the funding for a second season ready to go, but extreme hostility between TMS and the production team in Canada ended the series at 13 episodes. (Reports of what exactly happened are vague and biased, but apparently TMS was very poor at keeping up with the Canadian team's schedule, leading to huge delays and overshot budgets.) It's seen some interest in recent years thanks to a Blu-Ray release by Discotek, but the rights to continue it have long expired, as have the lives of the original IP creators.
Spicy City was the very first American-animated series aimed at adults, created by the ever-controversial Ralph Bakshi (Fritz the Cat, Cool World, Coonskin, etc.) for HBO. This show is a personal favourite of mine – an anthology series of neo-noir detective stories set in futuristic worlds, strung together by a Jessica Rabbit-like host. Episodes are heavy on the sex (this is HBO, remember!), but also have some very engaging mystery plots centred around technology and the internet. Characters don't re-appear outside of the episode they're introduced in, so each story is like a half-hour movie, and they're all executed with a variety of experimental art styles.
As is common with Bakshi's work, the HBO executives hated the production team he spearheaded, which, among various homeless and destitute people pulled from the streets of Brookyln, also included his son as head writer. (Whoops!) Again, ratings were high and a second season had been green-lit, but Bakshi's refusal to change his team (and, by the same token, the show's entire creative engine) got the series canned at only six episodes. This show is really tough to find, but if you can, I recommend it heartily. I'm still holding out for a Blu-Ray.
I'll doubtlessly remember more of these shows over the next few days, so if you're wanting more walls of text from Gorse on old cartoons nobody remembers, stay tuned!
Oh my god I never seen anyone bring up Spicy City this is a first time for me. I don't remember how I learned about despite maybe being on a Bakshi binge around that time. Makes me so sad the video quality of that show is really bad, kind of surprise it didn't become lost media.This thread currently has my favourite title on RetroGameTalk. My choices:
Transformers Animated was an excellent late-2000s action series developed by the same team behind the equally-excellent Ben 10. The series had gorgeous (but controversial) character designs, some truly phenomenal writing, and a very in-depth story arc that spanned across each of its three seasons.
Unfortunately, the success of the 2007 Transformers movie and Hasbro execs wanting more control over the brand got the show cancelled before the last season could be produced, leading to several open plot remaining by the final episode. There's actually a ton of pre-production material for the fourth season available, and the show's cast have even done live readings of un-produced scripts, but the Transformers brand has moved far past this series, and the time has gone.
Cybersix is one of the finest pieces of late-90s superhero animation available, and a massive cult classic for anyone who grew up in Canada during the turn of the century (i.e. me). A Japanese-Canadian co-production with animation by TMS, this unique series starred a robotic heroine who fought sci-fi monsters with her jaguar sidekick at night, but by day worked as a flipped-gender high school teacher in a quaint seaside town. The series had elements of adventure, mystery, and romance, with an extremely strong supporting cast and gorgeous animation. (The opening cinematic is supremely nostalgic.)
The show got great ratings and had the funding for a second season ready to go, but extreme hostility between TMS and the production team in Canada ended the series at 13 episodes. (Reports of what exactly happened are vague and biased, but apparently TMS was very poor at keeping up with the Canadian team's schedule, leading to huge delays and overshot budgets.) It's seen some interest in recent years thanks to a Blu-Ray release by Discotek, but the rights to continue it have long expired, as have the lives of the original IP creators.
Spicy City was the very first American-animated series aimed at adults, created by the ever-controversial Ralph Bakshi (Fritz the Cat, Cool World, Coonskin, etc.) for HBO. This show is a personal favourite of mine – an anthology series of neo-noir detective stories set in futuristic worlds, strung together by a Jessica Rabbit-like host. Episodes are heavy on the sex (this is HBO, remember!), but also have some very engaging mystery plots centred around technology and the internet. Characters don't re-appear outside of the episode they're introduced in, so each story is like a half-hour movie, and they're all executed with a variety of experimental art styles.
As is common with Bakshi's work, the HBO executives hated the production team he spearheaded, which, among various homeless and destitute people pulled from the streets of Brookyln, also included his son as head writer. (Whoops!) Again, ratings were high and a second season had been green-lit, but Bakshi's refusal to change his team (and, by the same token, the show's entire creative engine) got the series canned at only six episodes. This show is really tough to find, but if you can, I recommend it heartily. I'm still holding out for a Blu-Ray.
I'll doubtlessly remember more of these shows over the next few days, so if you're wanting more walls of text from Gorse on old cartoons nobody remembers, stay tuned!
Painnnnnnnnnnnnnn I think they just wanted to do one last season and it sounded so good too. Despite the tone being different from other CN cartoons right now I wonder if part of the reason it was cancelled was having adult main characters in the last season.Poor poor Infinity Train, original premise, very good soundtrack, great acting, a good variety of protagonists, decently graphic deaths when they happened, got cancelled for not having a "child entry point" whatever that means
In recall reading infinity train had no "child entry point", aka, not enough braindead skibidi rizz shitPainnnnnnnnnnnnnn I think they just wanted to do one last season and it sounded so good too. Despite the tone being different from other CN cartoons right now I wonder if part of the reason it was cancelled was having adult main characters in the last season.
Idk I feel like there is not a lot of kid cartoons with adult main characters and I always find those cartoons interesting, but I guess networks get worried the kids are unable to relate to them.
Spongebob is like the only running kid cartoon with all adult main characters but Spongebob himself being childlike and non-humanoid probably benefits it.
Even then Infinity Train always seem like it would very successful as an YA novel, I can totally see kids picking that up from the book store. I also thought the divorce of Tuilp's parents would resonate to kids going though that...
But I guess that and it's darker content really doesn't fit with CN wanting to make cartoons that feel like they aiming for a preschooler age for some reason. They probably saw how huge Bluey became and wanted to aim for that.
In recall reading infinity train had no "child entry point", aka, not enough braindead skibidi rizz shit
Kids always loved shonen and darker stuff but I guess cartoon network isnt interested in it no more, that genre is all but extinct in the west and now that ai's here I dont see that getting any better. I'm looking forward to cartoon focused channels turning into cocomelon unless its a reboot
It doesnt help that new cartoonists stubbornly keep trying to get hired by netflix or move to LA and to be with cartoon network instead of moving to youtube.
Ive seen so many twitter profiles going "IM A STORYBOARD ARTIST! HIRE ME!" as if theres not a milion other accounts like them, especially now that studios will be adopting ai they're never giving studios any reason to hire them
Genny Tartakovski (dexter's lab, samurai jack) said they internet's where its at nowdays
"There's no advice. It's unpredictable. You don't know where it's going to come from. Netflix starts a huge, enormous studio. They hire pretty much almost everybody. And then very quickly they decide, "You know what? This doesn't work for us. We're going to go a different direction." And then they shutter it. And there's no advice I can give from that. I would never see that coming.
If I was young right now, I would be making my own shows and putting them up on YouTube or Instagram or wherever and trying to get an audience that way. The Amazing Digital Circus or Hazbin Hotel , and all those shows are great stories as far as somebody just doing it independently. I think even the guys from Smiling Friends would just make short films themselves independently, and then they came up with a show together. I think that's a healthier way to do your own things right now. And maybe have a full-time job that you're doing too. And then after, do your own stuff. That's what I would be doing. I've been doing that throughout my whole career. When I'm at a place where I'm unhappy, on my own time, I develop my next thing. You have to be aggressive in that way and make your own destiny, I guess, without sounding too cheesy."
Samurai Jack & Primal Creator Genndy Tartakovsky On The State Of The Animation Industry [SCAD]
Tartakovsky has some thoughts on live-action.screenrant.com
Painnnnnnnnnnnnnn I think they just wanted to do one last season and it sounded so good too. Despite the tone being different from other CN cartoons right now I wonder if part of the reason it was cancelled was having adult main characters in the last season.
Idk I feel like there is not a lot of kid cartoons with adult main characters and I always find those cartoons interesting, but I guess networks get worried the kids are unable to relate to them.
Spongebob is like the only running kid cartoon with all adult main characters but Spongebob himself being childlike and non-humanoid probably benefits it.
Even then Infinity Train always seem like it would very successful as an YA novel, I can totally see kids picking that up from the book store. I also thought the divorce of Tuilp's parents would resonate to kids going though that...
But I guess that and it's darker content really doesn't fit with CN wanting to make cartoons that feel like they aiming for a preschooler age for some reason. They probably saw how huge Bluey became and wanted to aim for that.
I wouldn’t mind watching the movie. I hear it’s not half bad, and they even got PUFFY back to do the credits song!I love the teen titans go
Grim Adventues of Billy and Mandy (I know it had a good run, I just want more)
Everything on the disney channel is really good these days (mostly cartoons). Especially the music! Most of it seems to be played by actual musicians and is just excellent.I've been eyeing this thread for a little while, I have to give in. I don't really watch much outside of anime these days but I really miss the era of cartoons that felt like they respected the audience. I'm not saying every show needs to be serious, gritty, or dark. But the more we get that treats the people like they are idiots or aren't capable of nuance the worse entertainment feels. And frankly, there's a lot of weird stuff in Anglo-American media nowadays that wouldn't fly here to put it politely.
I was glancing at what's on today since I have to babysit fairly regularly these days. Even my nieces don't really like what's on TV anymore, we've taken to watching everything from that ranges from Batman the Animated Series, Tokyo Mew Mew and Courage the Cowardly Dog. The last thing we watched was Avatar: Legend of Aang, it really made me despair there's very little like that anymore.
My pick for the thread is Batman Beyond.